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Westwood College Online

KaruheKaruhe Registered User regular
edited August 2007 in Games and Technology
I've signed up for a fall term to start my Gaming Design degree at Westwood College Online. I was wondering if anyones been to this college, at a campus across the nation or the online one?

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  • slurpeepoopslurpeepoop Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Karuhe wrote: »
    I've signed up for a fall term to start my Gaming Design degree at Westwood College Online. I was wondering if anyones been to this college, at a campus across the nation or the online one?


    Can you get a Master's in military strategy/resource management?

    Do they offer degrees in Arrakis history or Beholder anatomy?

    Is there any emphasis in the curriculum educating to avoid the evils of megacorporations?

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  • AndorienAndorien Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Karuhe wrote: »
    I've signed up for a fall term to start my Gaming Design degree at Westwood College Online. I was wondering if anyones been to this college, at a campus across the nation or the online one?


    Can you get a Master's in military strategy/resource management?

    Do they offer degrees in Arrakis history or Beholder anatomy?

    Is there any emphasis in the curriculum educating to avoid the evils of megacorporations?

    1. Yes
    2. Yes, but it's one of those retarded courses that's only offered in the summer. Bullshit, I know
    3. No, but there's an on campus group that worships Mr. Gates.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Anyone else think this thread smells more than a little like a plant?

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  • PatboyXPatboyX Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    What about Collecting Empty Flasks 101?

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  • TrevorTrevor Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Isn't this that college that has those horrible advertisements that sound like they were designed by 50 year old men who think they're hip and in touch with today's youths?

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  • chaossoldierchaossoldier Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Trevor wrote: »
    Isn't this that college that has those horrible advertisements that sound like they were designed by 50 year old men who think they're hip and in touch with today's youths?

    Shhh...be quiet. They have ways to make you tighten up the graphics on level 3

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  • VeganVegan Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Sigh.

    Yeah, I'm sure this totally ISN'T a waste of your time and money.

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  • chaossoldierchaossoldier Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Vegan wrote: »
    Sigh.

    Yeah, I'm sure this totally ISN'T a waste of your time and money.

    Yeah. Most schools "specializing" in game development only teach you the very basic of the basics, practically leaving you high and dry when it comes to an actual career.

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  • zilozilo Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I met a couple grads of the Westwood program at an Activision recruiting event a couple weeks ago. They seemed... less than enthusiastic about their education. Who knows though, there are duds in every degree program.

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  • FirstComradeStalinFirstComradeStalin Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Why not just do a CS degree or an Art degree, maybe Digital Art? "Game Design" just seems too broad.

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  • FreddyDFreddyD Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Why not just do a CS degree or an Art degree, maybe Digital Art? "Game Design" just seems too broad.
    Someone in a video game company said the the industry views game degrees as a fashion accessory. So getting a CS or digital art degree seems like a good idea. Making a mod or a computer graphics demo will make a better impression than a gaming degree.

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  • chaossoldierchaossoldier Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Why not just do a CS degree or an Art degree, maybe Digital Art? "Game Design" just seems too broad.

    Hell, you could probably learn more by working out your own game mods for Source or UT. Lotta people say good mods impress employers a lot more than a degree.

    Damnit, Freddy.


    Beat so bad...

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  • Yossarian_Lives!Yossarian_Lives! Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I attended Westwood in chicago for Networking....Yeah, i'm a diesel mechanic now, if that says anything.

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  • FreddyDFreddyD Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Why not just do a CS degree or an Art degree, maybe Digital Art? "Game Design" just seems too broad.

    Hell, you could probably learn more by working out your own game mods for Source or UT. Lotta people say good mods impress employers a lot more than a degree.

    Damnit, Freddy.


    Beat so bad...
    Great minds, etc. *high five*

    I ended up getting a BS in CS, and I think I would rather make mods than be a game designer. I think that is the most pure way to give back to the hobby you love.

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  • zanetheinsanezanetheinsane Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Make sure to use that sound effect from the last level.

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  • LittleBootsLittleBoots Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    www.gamedev.net has a lot of good articles written by people inside the game industry on this topic. I've read a few and it seems that a degree is great to have but nothing replaces actual experience. If you're going to bother going to college go for a CS or Art degree (depending on what you want to do in game design) and while attending college start making your own games and working with others on games and/or mods. Because from what I've gathered by reading up on this topic no one is even going to look at you unless you have some kind of portfolio showing what work you've already done.

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  • Sci-Fi WasabiSci-Fi Wasabi Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Make sure to use that sound effect from the last level.

    yeah that sound effect was the bomb

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I believe there was an H&A thread about game design schools, and the overall response seemed to be, "You get what you put into it." If you leave Westwood and don't feel you've learned anything, it's probably because you didn't put the effort into learning.

    But I'm just echoing what was said there. I haven't heard anything one way or another about game design courses.

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  • JCRooksJCRooks Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    The only game-focused school that's worth anything is DigiPen. There are numerous students (and even faculty) there that have gone on to jobs at Nintendo and MS games.

    Otherwise, your best bet is to get a more general degree (such as CS), or go for the industry experience route. Start off low on the totem pole (usually as a contract tester or artist) and try to move up from there. Or create a mod that really stands out. Either way, it requires lots of knowledge and skill.

    The latest Bungie podcast actually talked about this a bit. Anyone interested in getting into the industry, especially from the QA/Test side, should give that a listen.

    BTW - If anyone's serious about QA, have ample programming/technical skill, live in the Seattle area, and is interested in a job at MS games, send me a private message. I'm having the hardest time filling positions on my team. Again, serious inquiries only.

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  • CymoroCymoro Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    JCRooks: I'm going to DigiPen right now, but when I have the ability to be of help, I'll let you know.

    DigiPen is possibly the best choice you can make. It's run by people that have worked in the game industry (Claude Comair, our founder, worked over at NST and made Metroid Prime Hunters, Mario vs. Donkey Kong, and Pokemon Puzzle League). Plus, it's not all about games. You get the CS, math, and physics classes that you need in order to make even the simplest of games.

    I would show you what my freshman game team did in a matter of weeks, but I'm afraid I don't have it on me.

    Edit: AHAHAHA, I just realized, Westwood is the one that helps you tighten up the graphics on Level 3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9COTOUH4qU

    You got scammed, son. Sever, sever.

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  • Xenocide GeekXenocide Geek Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Cymoro wrote: »
    JCRooks: I'm going to DigiPen right now, but when I have the ability to be of help, I'll let you know.

    DigiPen is possibly the best choice you can make. It's run by people that have worked in the game industry (Claude Comair, our founder, worked over at NST and made Metroid Prime Hunters, Mario vs. Donkey Kong, and Pokemon Puzzle League). Plus, it's not all about games. You get the CS, math, and physics classes that you need in order to make even the simplest of games.

    I would show you what my freshman game team did in a matter of weeks, but I'm afraid I don't have it on me.

    Edit: AHAHAHA, I just realized, Westwood is the one that helps you tighten up the graphics on Level 3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9COTOUH4qU

    You got scammed, son. Sever, sever.

    i believe the word you're looking for is severe ;)

    but yeah, original poster dude, i'd look long and hard... really, really hard before choosing a vocational tech type school

    most are complete shit

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  • ultrapeanutultrapeanut Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Zek wrote: »
    Anyone else think this thread smells more than a little like a plant?
    You mean weed? Or... ohhhhhh, nevermind.

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  • HibikiHibiki Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    JCRooks wrote: »
    The only game-focused school that's worth anything is DigiPen. There are numerous students (and even faculty) there that have gone on to jobs at Nintendo and MS games.

    I thought the guildhall at smu was the best?

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  • hambonehambone Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Cymoro wrote: »
    JEdit: AHAHAHA, I just realized, Westwood is the one that helps you tighten up the graphics on Level 3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9COTOUH4qU

    ahaha

    take that, Mom

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  • nevilleneville The Worst Gay (Seriously. The Worst!)Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    What is the next great game?
    OHHHH I haven't created it yet.

    (Yeah, incoming Digipen Frosh and when people ask "Hey is that the one from the commercia-- " ... guh)

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  • NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    neville wrote: »
    What is the next great game?
    OHHHH I haven't created it yet.

    (Yeah, incoming Digipen Frosh and when people ask "Hey is that the one from the commercia-- " ... guh)

    No, that's DeVry... My.....current.....school.......

    Time to go from GSP to CompSci.

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  • nevilleneville The Worst Gay (Seriously. The Worst!)Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Nocren wrote: »
    neville wrote: »
    What is the next great game?
    OHHHH I haven't created it yet.

    (Yeah, incoming Digipen Frosh and when people ask "Hey is that the one from the commercia-- " ... guh)

    No, that's DeVry... My.....current.....school.......

    Time to go from GSP to CompSci.

    >_>
    My apologies. :P

    But, still, that's a horrible, horrible commercial.

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  • chaossoldierchaossoldier Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    neville wrote: »
    Nocren wrote: »
    neville wrote: »
    What is the next great game?
    OHHHH I haven't created it yet.

    (Yeah, incoming Digipen Frosh and when people ask "Hey is that the one from the commercia-- " ... guh)

    No, that's DeVry... My.....current.....school.......

    Time to go from GSP to CompSci.

    >_>
    My apologies. :P

    But, still, that's a horrible, horrible commercial.

    Because if you're a gamer, you know what happens when you stand still!

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  • CymoroCymoro Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Hibiki wrote: »
    JCRooks wrote: »
    The only game-focused school that's worth anything is DigiPen. There are numerous students (and even faculty) there that have gone on to jobs at Nintendo and MS games.

    I thought the guildhall at smu was the best?

    Portal is being made by DigiPen grads. Gabe Newell saw their senior project, and offered them a job on the spot. It's the technical predecessor to Portal, Narbacular Drop.

    Also check out some other projects coming out this year:

    Synaesthete - Rhythm/action game

    Empyreal Nocturne - Think Shadow of the Colossus, but in the air.

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  • MgsleeMgslee United StatesRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Hibiki wrote: »
    JCRooks wrote: »
    The only game-focused school that's worth anything is DigiPen. There are numerous students (and even faculty) there that have gone on to jobs at Nintendo and MS games.

    I thought the guildhall at smu was the best?

    Doesn't the GDC student's showcase finalists (and winner) say otherwise?

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    I'm currently attending DigiPen as a Masters student (1 of 2 years complete) coming from a normal Software Engineering degree. Honestly IMO, your better off going for a regular degree to make yourself more rounded. And if your interested in game development still after that take an accelerated crashed course in game development.

    So I'm preeching what I'm doing, but I think I'm better off with it then if I did my undergrad at DigiPen.

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  • JCRooksJCRooks Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Hibiki wrote: »
    JCRooks wrote: »
    The only game-focused school that's worth anything is DigiPen. There are numerous students (and even faculty) there that have gone on to jobs at Nintendo and MS games.

    I thought the guildhall at smu was the best?

    Hmm, I've never heard of it before, but after doing some searching, it sounds like it's a pretty big deal. Apparently MS is doing lots of XNA stuff with the Guildhall (http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=457116). I never knew ... which is funny, considering I work in MS games and know folks working with XNA. *shrug*

    Also, I don't think the Guildhall counts as a game-focused school, since it's a part of SMU in general (which is no slouch when it comes to private education). I agree with others that an education at a general college is usually your best bet, assuming you get accepted and can afford it of course.

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  • mystic_knightmystic_knight Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    neville wrote: »
    Nocren wrote: »
    neville wrote: »
    What is the next great game?
    OHHHH I haven't created it yet.

    (Yeah, incoming Digipen Frosh and when people ask "Hey is that the one from the commercia-- " ... guh)

    No, that's DeVry... My.....current.....school.......

    Time to go from GSP to CompSci.

    >_>
    My apologies. :P

    But, still, that's a horrible, horrible commercial.

    Because if you're a gamer, you know what happens when you stand still!

    You . . . regenerate health?

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  • chaossoldierchaossoldier Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    neville wrote: »
    Nocren wrote: »
    neville wrote: »
    What is the next great game?
    OHHHH I haven't created it yet.

    (Yeah, incoming Digipen Frosh and when people ask "Hey is that the one from the commercia-- " ... guh)

    No, that's DeVry... My.....current.....school.......

    Time to go from GSP to CompSci.

    >_>
    My apologies. :P

    But, still, that's a horrible, horrible commercial.

    Because if you're a gamer, you know what happens when you stand still!

    You . . . regenerate health?

    No. Apparently your Tv turns off.

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  • ultrapeanutultrapeanut Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Nocren wrote: »
    neville wrote: »
    What is the next great game?
    OHHHH I haven't created it yet.

    (Yeah, incoming Digipen Frosh and when people ask "Hey is that the one from the commercia-- " ... guh)

    No, that's DeVry... My.....current.....school.......

    Time to go from GSP to CompSci.
    I'm curious: Did you get all sorts of cool FREE demos?

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  • PatboyXPatboyX Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I didn't noticed this before...but that school is "Not intended for residents of Texas and Massachusetts."
    I never thought I'd miss the old "Sorry Tennessee."

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  • HalberdBlueHalberdBlue Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    what's up with the Devry commercials having a website like Devry56Powerup.com or something?

    It just seems like they aren't for real, and need to piggyback on a similar URL to get people to visit.

    Also, damnit, free game demos aren't an enticing deal!

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  • wenchkillawenchkilla Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    what's up with the Devry commercials having a website like Devry56Powerup.com or something?

    It just seems like they aren't for real, and need to piggyback on a similar URL to get people to visit.

    Also, damnit, free game demos aren't an enticing deal!

    I've seen a lot of infomercials lately where the site is www.BuyOurShit##.com, but the numbers seem to vary even in the number of digits, even though the commercial is identical O_o

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  • Red LegRed Leg Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I'm not 100% but I think the URL numbers there might reflect what channel/time period/whatever that commercial aired. So when you go to that website it tracks that and lets them know it is a good idea/bad idea to advertise on that channel/at that time.

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  • rayofashrayofash Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    The only good game design school that has actually got people anywhere is The Guildhall: http://guildhall.smu.edu/

    Westwood College is the one famous for tightening the graphics on level 3.

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