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Does anyone know about Department of Energy Convoys?

TostitosTostitos __BANNED USERS regular
edited August 2007 in Debate and/or Discourse
Let me summarize what I know so far:

DOE Special Response Team guys are pretty damn elite. This is the only thing I hear from anyone involved in law enforcement or tactical teams, if they mention the glow worms.

They roll in convoys with nucular materials.

There is a probably 60% bullshit text file on them from the '80s here.

They probably have one of THESE tucked away in one of their Suburbans.



Now, I'm writing a book, a work of fiction if you will. There is a critical point where a moving freeway gunfight passes/moves into a DOE convoy, and the nuke couriers respond in a very irritated and violent manner.

I am interested in any information that could help me present this in a factual manner without ruining national security. I'd like to add that my book is going to be an amount of awesome that will rip your face off, spackle it with more awesome, and then stick your meat-mask back on, sideways.

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  • GorakGorak Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Tostitos wrote: »
    They probably have one of THESE tucked away in one of their Suburbans.

    You won't get that shit on Pimp My Ride!

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2007
    I would think they'd have the same or near the same as a military hardass (ie, SEAL, etc).

    It's not like they'd learn special fighting just for the purposes of guarding nuclear material.

    I'd probably study up on defensive driving - treat it like it's a presidential convoy, but instead of a president you have __senstivenuclearmaterial__ instead.

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  • FirstComradeStalinFirstComradeStalin Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    So this freeway gunfight just happens to pass by one of these DOE convoys, and the crossfire causes them to pop up with one of these bad boys?

    I think you hopped, skipped, and jumped past "factual manner" a long time ago, buddy.

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  • TostitosTostitos __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2007
    Nothing just "happens."

    Group A knows Group B is in pursuit with superior numbers and the batshit crazyness that comes with being willing to attempt a shooting freeway ambush.

    Group A has paid someone off to know IF a DOE convoy will be passing through the highway they are travelling on, and the member of Group A who deals in selling restricted technology already knows that they are travelling the same route as convoys out of Oak Ridge, which leads to the idea in the first place.

    (I've been there as a kid. Cool science museum!)

    Group A sits around with a very tense thumb up their waste chute at a truckstop until the convoy they are told about passes through, phones in a tip to Group B via a third party snitch, and drives up around the couriers, hereby referred to as Group X.

    Group B, being mostly formed out of illegal immigrant gangbangers (who already get involved in rolling gunfights, if you want news articles, I will post them) starts shooting indiscriminately at Group A's Suburban, and ends up repeatedly tagging a Group X suburban.

    Group X unleashes holy clusterfuck, Group A gets out of dodge, and Group B ends up deaded, with the surviving members of the criminal organization finding themselves fast tracked into Gitmo.

    I think you guys have been jaded by 'writers' who are otherwise transcribing and updating their five paragraph entrance posts from Yahoo! Roleplay chat into Mary-Sue-esque adventures.

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  • sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited August 2007
    Tostitos wrote: »
    Group B, being mostly formed out of illegal immigrant gangbangers (who already get involved in rolling gunfights, if you want news articles, I will post them) starts shooting indiscriminately at Group A's Suburban, and ends up repeatedly tagging a Group X suburban.

    I find this part slightly off-putting. I mean, while your book sounds quite suspenseful, I don't like the idea that you would be adding to the rampant and inaccurate stereotype of illegals being responsible for a great deal of crime. Statistically (at least in California) Hispanics commit crimes in proportionally smaller numbers than whites or blacks. And, while there obviously are Hispanic gangs, pretty much every major immigrant group to ever come to the U.S. since the 1800s has developed organized crime networks. So, it's hardly remarkable.

    I hope your book provides a view of illegals that is on-balance, overall.

    Other than that, though, it sounds very tense and exciting. Plus I always enjoy it when a book uses a plot device I've never seen before (like DOE convoys).

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  • TostitosTostitos __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2007
    It's sort of hard for a gang largely comprised of illegal immigrants from El Salvador not to be pissed off at you when they blame you for something that isn't really your fault but still ended up with the son of one of their leaders and financial organizers dead-ed.

    They are one of two factions who are mad at the anti-heroes, and the Ukrainian mob isn't crazy enough to do the highway thing. MS-13, on the other hand...

    By the way, how do you know that I didn't mean illegal Chinese immigrants, or Russian, or any other illegal immigrant subclass that tends to have a strong organized crime following?

    I'm not trying to make some kind of political point. I intend to make people from all over the social map uncomfortable when it comes to something where they expect me to just mindlessly go along with one point of view or another. I hate the twin ideas of having a target audience and then parroting cliches that the target audience will like to read. I'm not making a book for dumb people.

    Where's the fun in writing something like that? It's called Unintended Consequences / Enemies Foreign and Domestic, (I am unaware of the Social-Leftist analogues to those titles) both of which are GIGANTIC BALLS OF LITERARY SUCK.

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  • sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited August 2007
    Tostitos wrote: »
    It's sort of hard for a gang largely comprised of illegal immigrants from El Salvador not to be pissed off at you when they blame you for something that isn't really your fault but still ended up with the son of one of their leaders and financial organizers dead-ed.

    They are one of two factions who are mad at the anti-heroes, and the Ukrainian mob isn't crazy enough to do the highway thing. MS-13, on the other hand...

    By the way, how do you know that I didn't mean illegal Chinese immigrants, or Russian, or any other illegal immigrant subclass that tends to have a strong organized crime following?

    I'm not trying to make some kind of political point. I intend to make people from all over the social map uncomfortable when it comes to something where they expect me to just mindlessly go along with one point of view or another. I hate the twin ideas of having a target audience and then parroting cliches that the target audience will like to read. I'm not making a book for dumb people.

    Well carry on, then.

    At the very least, you are a good salesman, because now I want to read your book.

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  • TostitosTostitos __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2007
    Why thank you, kind sir.

    I hope it will both amuse and stimulate your imagination. I am not terribly far from sending it to publishers and whatnot. It's a terrifying and exciting feeling.

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  • sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited August 2007
    Tostitos wrote: »
    Why thank you, kind sir.

    I hope it will both amuse and stimulate your imagination. I am not terribly far from sending it to publishers and whatnot. It's a terrifying and exciting feeling.

    You should send it to me first for review.

    I totally won't steal it or nothin'.






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