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1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die

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    UnknownSaintUnknownSaint Kasyn Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Plutocracy wrote: »
    The Departed was just a bigger budget version of Infernal Affairs with plenty of recognisable Hollywood A-listers. Novel and derivative, frankly you can only put it in there if you include its forebear.

    Like was said earlier, the Departed WAS superior to Infernal Affairs, which is a pretty solid movie in and of its own. I don't think cutting it down because it had a big budget cast (who all gave great performances, mind you) is anything short of ignorant.

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I just watched (well, listened to) Con Air twice through and I'm ashamed as an American that this movie is not on the list.

    What a well paced awesomely awesome example of a popcorn flick. So damn slick.

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    themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Good lord, I just did a rundown and I've seen way too many of those movies. Film school bias.

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    UnknownSaintUnknownSaint Kasyn Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I just watched (well, listened to) Con Air twice through and I'm ashamed as an American that this movie is not on the list.

    What a well paced awesomely awesome example of a popcorn flick. So damn slick.

    I don't think the list really considers action movies outside of the greats that pretty much do it best - Die Hard and Terminator / Terminator 2. While Con Air is good mindless fun, it isn't really in the same category as those movies, I would say.

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    LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Números wrote: »
    400 Blows is absent and that is sad.

    No, it's there. The list makers were pretentious enough to list foreign films under their original names, so it's listed as Les Quatre cents coups.

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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Plutocracy wrote: »
    The Departed was just a bigger budget version of Infernal Affairs with plenty of recognisable Hollywood A-listers. Novel and derivative, frankly you can only put it in there if you include its forebear.

    I can't say for sure since I haven't seen Infernal Affairs but just because the stories are the same (and not exactly the same if I understand correctly) doesn't mean the second one can't execute it better.

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I just watched (well, listened to) Con Air twice through and I'm ashamed as an American that this movie is not on the list.

    What a well paced awesomely awesome example of a popcorn flick. So damn slick.

    I don't think the list really considers action movies outside of the greats that pretty much do it best - Die Hard and Terminator / Terminator 2. While Con Air is good mindless fun, it isn't really in the same category as those movies, I would say.

    It's a million hojillion times better for one thing, so definately not the same category.

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    Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    People's tastes vary so widely that these kinds of lists are essentially worthless. There is no such thing as an objectively 'good' movie, so any attempt to list the 'best' movies will end up just a list of the favourites of the guy who made the list.

    y/n

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    Feels Good ManFeels Good Man Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Some are a little questionable though. The Prestige? United 93?
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    The Prestige was an amazing movie, very much overlooked, in my opinion.

    United 93 was boring.

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    elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Lawndart wrote: »
    No, it's there. The list makers were pretentious enough to list foreign films under their original names, so it's listed as Les Quatre cents coups.

    In the actual book, all movies have both original and english name, if applicable. And both names are listed seperately in the index.

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    urahonkyurahonky Resident FF7R hater Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    The lack of Hot Fuzz disturbs me.

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    A raptor!A raptor! Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    urahonky wrote: »
    The lack of Shaun of The Dead disturbs me.

    But infinitely worse is the lack of Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Seriously, if that's not a must-watch, I don't know what the hell is. Sideways, apparently. :|

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    urahonkyurahonky Resident FF7R hater Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I thought it'd be bad taste if I put Shaun of the Dead because of my avatar, so I went with the next best thing. :P

    But no kidding. ESotSM was a great movie.

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    NumeroNumero Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Lawndart wrote: »
    Números wrote: »
    400 Blows is absent and that is sad.

    No, it's there. The list makers were pretentious enough to list foreign films under their original names, so it's listed as Les Quatre cents coups.

    150!

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    UnknownSaintUnknownSaint Kasyn Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I just watched (well, listened to) Con Air twice through and I'm ashamed as an American that this movie is not on the list.

    What a well paced awesomely awesome example of a popcorn flick. So damn slick.

    I don't think the list really considers action movies outside of the greats that pretty much do it best - Die Hard and Terminator / Terminator 2. While Con Air is good mindless fun, it isn't really in the same category as those movies, I would say.

    It's a million hojillion times better for one thing, so definately not the same category.

    You think Con Air was better than Die Hard? Original Die Hard? Really?

    Also, Hot Fuzz doesn't even really deserve consideration for the list. Shaun of the Dead maybe, because it seems the list takes into consideration the great zombie movies, and Shaun is easily the most hilarious of all of them while also being a pretty damn good zombie movie on its own.

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    PlutocracyPlutocracy regular
    edited June 2008
    Plutocracy wrote: »
    The Departed was just a bigger budget version of Infernal Affairs with plenty of recognisable Hollywood A-listers. Novel and derivative, frankly you can only put it in there if you include its forebear.

    Like was said earlier, the Departed WAS superior to Infernal Affairs, which is a pretty solid movie in and of its own. I don't think cutting it down because it had a big budget cast (who all gave great performances, mind you) is anything short of ignorant.

    I disagree but I'm not going to expend energy arguing pointlessly. Besides, I'm pissed Marty got the Award for that and not his earlier work.

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    urahonkyurahonky Resident FF7R hater Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Also, Hot Fuzz doesn't even really deserve consideration for the list. Shaun of the Dead maybe, because it seems the list takes into consideration the great zombie movies, and Shaun is easily the most hilarious of all of them while also being a pretty damn good zombie movie on its own.

    You are a terrible person. I just want you to know that.

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    duallainduallain Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    To whomever was disappointed by Grave of the Fireflies being an anime, I was as moved by that movie as The Pianist or Schindler's List. Watch it, then pass judgement.

    I've watched 71 (or so, missed blade runner for example...) and plan on watching as many as possible this summer and next year. Getting my number up to 100 seems like a reasonable goal.

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    UnknownSaintUnknownSaint Kasyn Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    urahonky wrote: »
    Also, Hot Fuzz doesn't even really deserve consideration for the list. Shaun of the Dead maybe, because it seems the list takes into consideration the great zombie movies, and Shaun is easily the most hilarious of all of them while also being a pretty damn good zombie movie on its own.

    You are a terrible person. I just want you to know that.

    Why is that? If Shaun of the Dead isn't on the list, the much less funny and much less clever other movie by the same folks shouldn't really get a spot.

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    urahonkyurahonky Resident FF7R hater Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    urahonky wrote: »
    Also, Hot Fuzz doesn't even really deserve consideration for the list. Shaun of the Dead maybe, because it seems the list takes into consideration the great zombie movies, and Shaun is easily the most hilarious of all of them while also being a pretty damn good zombie movie on its own.

    You are a terrible person. I just want you to know that.

    Why is that? If Shaun of the Dead isn't on the list, the much less funny and much less clever other movie by the same folks shouldn't really get a spot.

    I hope you can feel the pain I am wishing upon you.
    :P

    e: I'm a HUGE zombie fan, but honestly Hot Fuzz > Shaun of the Dead. But only because I am a much larger Action Flick fan. Hot Fuzz is great to watch while having a bunch of action movie buffs over.

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    ClickForthClickForth Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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    KatholicKatholic Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    urahonky wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    Also, Hot Fuzz doesn't even really deserve consideration for the list. Shaun of the Dead maybe, because it seems the list takes into consideration the great zombie movies, and Shaun is easily the most hilarious of all of them while also being a pretty damn good zombie movie on its own.

    You are a terrible person. I just want you to know that.

    Why is that? If Shaun of the Dead isn't on the list, the much less funny and much less clever other movie by the same folks shouldn't really get a spot.

    I hope you can feel the pain I am wishing upon you.
    :P

    e: I'm a HUGE zombie fan, but honestly Hot Fuzz > Shaun of the Dead. But only because I am a much larger Action Flick fan. Hot Fuzz is great to watch while having a bunch of action movie buffs over.

    Hot Fuzz just wasn't funny.

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    LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    1. Le Voyage dans la lune (1902)
    2. The Birth of a Nation (1915)
    3. The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1919)
    4. Nosferatu, Eine Symphonie des Grauens (1922)
    5. The Phantom of the Opera (1925)
    6. Metropolis (1927)
    7. Un Chien Andalou (1928)
    8. Dracula (1931)
    9. Frankenstein (1931)
    10. Duck Soup (1933)
    11. King Kong (1933)
    12. Mutiny on the Bounty (1935)
    13. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939)
    14. The Wizard of Oz (1939)
    15. Wuthering Heights (1939)
    16. Fantasia (1940)
    17. Pinocchio (1940)
    18. Citizen Kane (1941)
    19. The Maltese Falcon (1941)
    20. Casablanca (1942)
    21. It's a Wonderful Life (1946)
    22. Rashomon (1950)
    23. An American in Paris (1951)
    24. Rear Window (1954)
    25. The Seven Samurai (1954)
    26. Rebel without a Cause (1955)
    27. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956)
    28. Vertigo (1958)
    29. Ben-Hur (1959)
    30. Psycho (1960)
    31. Spartacus (1960)
    32. Breakfast at Tiffany's (1961)
    33. To Kill a Mockingbird (1962)
    34. 8 1/2 (1963)
    35. Goldfinger (1964)
    36. Dr. Strangelove (1964)
    37. A Hard Day's Night (1964)
    38. The Masque of the Red Death (1964)
    39. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966)
    40. Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (1966)
    41. The Graduate (1967)
    42. Le Samouraï (1967)
    43. The Jungle Book (1967)
    44. Planet of the Apes (1968)
    45. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
    46. Night of the Living Dead (1968)
    47. A Clockwork Orange (1971)
    48. Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (1971)
    49. Harold and Maude (1971)
    50. Dirty Harry (1971)
    51. Deliverance (1972)
    52. The Godfather (1972)
    53. Pink Flamingos (1972)
    54. American Graffiti (1973)
    55. Enter the Dragon (1973)
    56. The Wicker Man (1973)
    57. The Exorcist (1973)
    58. The Harder They Come (1973)
    59. The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974)
    60. Young Frankenstein (1974)
    61. Blazing Saddles (1974)
    62. The Godfather Part II (1974)
    63. One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975)
    64. The Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975)
    65. The Wall (1975)
    66. Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975)
    67. Jaws (1975)
    68. Carrie (1976)
    69. All the President's Men (1976)
    70. Rocky (1976)
    71. Taxi Driver (1976)
    72. Star Wars (1977)
    73. Annie Hall (1977)
    74. Stroszek (1977)
    75. Saturday Night Fever (1977)
    76. Grease (1978)
    77. Dawn of the Dead (1978)
    78. Up in Smoke (1978)
    79. Halloween (1978)
    80. Alien (1979)
    81. Apocalypse Now (1979)
    82. The Jerk (1979)
    83. The Muppet Movie (1979)
    84. Mad Max (1979)
    85. The Shining (1980)
    86. The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
    87. Airplane! (1980)
    88. Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
    89. Fast Times at Ridgemont High (1981)
    90. E.T. The Extra-Terestrial (1982)
    91. Poltergeist (1982)
    92. Blade Runner (1982)
    93. The Evil Dead (1982)
    94. Gandhi (1982)
    95. Return of the Jedi (1983)
    96. Terms of Endearment (1983)
    97. Once Upon a Time in America (1983)
    98. Scarface (1983)
    99. Amadeus (1984)
    100. The Terminator (1984)
    101. A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984)
    102. This Is Spinal Tap (1984)
    103. Beverly Hills Cop (1984)
    104. Ghostbusters (1984)
    105. The Breakfast Club (1985)
    106. Back to the Future (1985)
    107. Brazil (1985)
    108. The Color Purple (1985)
    109. Blue Velvet (1986)
    110. Aliens (1986)
    111. Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986)
    112. Top Gun (1986)
    113. Raising Arizona (1987)
    114. Full Metal Jacket (1987)
    115. The Princess Bride (1987)
    116. The Dead (1987)
    117. Akira (1988)
    118. A Fish Called Wanda (1988)
    119. Grave of the Fireflies (1988
    120. Die Hard (1988)
    121. Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988)
    122. Batman (1989)
    123. When Harry Met Sally (1989)
    124. Do the Right Thing (1989)
    125. Roger & Me (1989)
    126. Glory (1989)
    127. Say Anything (1989)
    128. Goodfellas (1990)
    129. Jacob's Ladder (1990)
    130. Pretty Woman (1990)
    131. Edward Scissorhands (1990)
    132. Boyz 'n the Hood (1991)
    133. Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991)
    134. The Silence of the Lambs (1991)
    135. JFK (1991)
    136. Reservoir Dogs (1992)
    137. Groundhog Day (1993)
    138. Philadelphia (1993)
    139. The Puppetmaster (1993)
    140. Jurassic Park (1993)
    141. The Piano (1993)
    142. Schindler's List (1993)
    143. The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert (1994)
    144. Hoop Dreams (1994)
    145. Forrest Gump (1994)
    146. The Lion King (1994)
    147. Clerks (1994)
    148. Natural Born Killers (1994)
    149. Pulp Fiction (1994)
    150. The Shawshank Redemption (1994)
    151. Crumb (1994)
    152. Babe (1995)
    153. Braveheart (1995)
    154. Toy Story (1995)
    155. Clueless (1995)
    156. Se7en (1995)
    157. The Usual Suspects (1995)
    158. Fargo (1996)
    159. Independence Day (1996)
    160. Trainspotting (1996)
    161. Scream (1996)
    162. The English Patient (1996)
    163. Princess Mononoke (1997)
    164. L.A. Confidential (1997)
    165. Titanic (1997)
    166. The Big Lebowski (1998)
    167. Saving Private Ryan (1998)
    168. Rushmore (1998)
    169. Lola Rennt (1998)
    170. Pi (1998)
    171. Ringu (1998)
    172. Magnolia (1999)
    173. The Blair Witch Project (1999)
    174. Three Kings (1999)
    175. Fight Club (1999)
    176. Being John Malkovich (1999)
    177. American Beauty (1999)
    178. The Matrix (1999)
    179. The Sixth Sense (1999)
    180. Gladiator (2000)
    181. Requiem for a Dream (2000)
    182. Y Tu Mamá También (2001)
    183. Spirited Away (2001)
    184. Moulin Rouge (2001)
    185. Mulholland Dr. (2001)
    186. The Royal Tenenbaums (2001)
    187. The Pianist (2002)
    188. Oldboy (2003)
    189. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003)
    190. Lost in Translation (2003)
    191. Fahrenheit 9/11 (2004)
    192. Sideways (2004)
    193. Brokeback Mountain (2005)

    For someone who claims to hate movies, I sure have seen a lot of them. A lot of the movies on this list are worth hating though. I cringed when I got to Groundhog Day, Top Gun, and Independence Day. Also, was Snow White one of the foreign language titles? I didn't bother to look up any of the movies that were in a language I don't read.

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    GimGim a tall glass of water Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Was 'Snow White and the Seven Dwarves (1937)' a foreign language title? No.

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    LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Lame. I did the same thing as the guy who specifically looked for Blade Runner and couldn't find it.

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    elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    BTW... few people have asked me about scanning foreword for the book, but I don't have scanner. Anyways, here is summary of it:

    - The list tried to be so balanced as possible. In editor's opinion, many movie lists have been problematic because they have arbitary limits what kind of movies are included. Some exclude animations, some concentrate only on american films, some ignore 40's gangster movies, some ignore controversial movies that could be considered racist, etc.
    - Idea of the list isn't really give you definite 1001 movies, but to give overview of whole cinema, and have every genre covered. For example, Independence Day or Jurassic Park might not be world's best movies, but they are perfect examples of huge blockbusters and pop-corn flicks.
    - Adventurous movie buff should find interesting dish, no matter what movie he selects from the list.
    - Over 35 critics, professors and film festival organizers participated in doing the list.
    - Raw version of the list had around 1300 movies.
    - Whole team gathered together, and they started painful process of cutting list down. There was lot debate about what movies should cut, and everyone lost at least few of their favorites.
    - After movies were selected, each critic took few movies and wrote summary for it. Summaries needed to be both informative, and exciting, and also also include trivia for serious movie buffs (i.e. did you know that Coppola originally wanted George Lucas to direct Apocalypse Now?)

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    GR_ZombieGR_Zombie Krillin It Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    All Quiet On The Western Front (1930)
    Dracula (1931)
    Frankenstein (1931)
    King Kong (1933)
    Bride of Frankenstein (1935)
    Snow White And The Seven Dwarves (1937)
    Bringing Up Baby (1938)
    Stagecoach (1939)
    The Wizard of Oz (1939)
    Fantasia (1940)
    Pinocchio (1940)
    The Wolf Man
    The Maltese Falcon
    Dumbo
    Casablanca
    Cat People
    Sunset Blvd.
    High Noon
    Rebel Without A Cause
    Forbidden Planet
    The Searchers
    Invasion Of The Body Snatchers
    The Incredible Shrinking Man
    Some Like It Hot
    Rio Bravo
    Psycho
    Spartacus
    West Side Story
    The Birds
    The Haunting
    Dr. Strangelove
    The Good The Bad And The Ugly
    In The Heat of The Night
    The Graduate
    The Jungle Book
    Planet Of The Apes
    Rosemary’s Baby
    2001: A Space Odyssey
    Night OF The Living Dead
    Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid
    A Clockwork Orange
    Willy Wonka And The Chocolate Factory
    Harold And Maude
    Dirty Harry
    High Plains Drifter
    The Godfather
    American Graffiti
    Enter The Dragon
    The Exorcist
    The Conversation
    The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
    Young Frankenstein
    One Flew Over The Cukoo’s Nest
    The Rocky Horror Picture Show
    Monty Python And The Holy Grail
    Jaws
    The Outlaw Josey Wales
    Taxi Driver
    Star Wars
    Close Encounters Of The Third Kind
    Annie Hall
    Grease
    Dawn Of The Dead
    Up In Smoke
    Halloween
    Alien
    Being There
    Apocalypse Now
    The Muppet Movie
    Mad Max
    The Shining
    The Empire Strikes Back
    Airplane!
    Raiders Of The Lost Ark
    An American Werewolf In London
    E.T. The Extra Terrestrial
    The Thing (1980)
    Poltergeist
    Blade Runner
    The Evil Dead
    Tootsie
    A Christmas Story
    Videodrome
    Return Of The JedI
    Scarface (1983)
    The Terminator
    A Nightmare On Elm Street
    Ghostbusters
    Back To The Future
    The Fly (1986)
    Aliens
    Ferris Bueller’s Day Off
    Platoon
    Raising Arizona
    Full Metal Jacket
    The Princess Bride
    Akira
    The Naked Gun
    Die Hard
    Who Framed Roger Rabbit
    Rain Man
    Batman
    Glory
    Goodfellas
    Edward Scissorhands
    Total Recall
    Terminator 2:Judgement Day
    The Silence Of The Lambs
    Reservoir Dogs
    Unforgiven
    Groundhog Day
    Jurassic Park
    Forrest Gump
    The Lion King
    Clerks
    Pulp Fiction
    Babe
    Toy Story
    Se7en
    The Usual Suspects
    Independence Day
    Scream
    Princess Mononoke
    Titanic
    Saving Private Ryan
    There’s Something About Mary
    Fight Club
    The Matrix
    Gladiator
    Meet The Parents
    Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
    Memento
    Moulin Rouge
    The Lord OF The Rings: Return Of The King
    Fahrenheit 9/11

    135 total, in 20 years. I'm kind of surprised.
    Also, where the hell is the original Gojira? (man it feels weird not calling it Godzilla)

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