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  • NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    You can really see results when you only work one "part" a week? I know there are secondary muscles that are worked in some cases, but...I thought you needed to work the same "parts" more often than that in order to see any results.

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  • PhilodoxPhilodox Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    My understanding is your body needs time to repair itself after working out. I've got pretty good results so far, I've just hit some kind of wall.

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  • ege02ege02 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2007
    So.

    I want forearms like those of Popeye.

    Tell me what I need to do.

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  • KrikeeKrikee Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    ege02 wrote: »
    So.

    I want forearms like those of Popeye.

    Tell me what I need to do.
    Supposedly* kettlebell training will do this for you plus kettlebells are cheap and you can do a full workout with them.

    *Only have read about kettlebell training, haven't partaken in said training.

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  • JeffHJeffH Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Philodox wrote: »
    My understanding is your body needs time to repair itself after working out. I've got pretty good results so far, I've just hit some kind of wall.

    If you want to get big, just eat more, and eat clean. Make sure you're gaining about a pound a week and adjust until you do.

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  • CojonesCojones Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    ege02 wrote: »
    So.

    I want forearms like those of Popeye.

    Tell me what I need to do.
    A good(and fun!) way of building more substancial forearms is to start climbing. A local indoor climbing center should well have everything you need and won't cost all that much either. Outside of that, barbell wrist curls and reverse barbell wrist curls have everything you need.

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  • PirateJonPirateJon Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Philodox wrote: »
    Does anybody have advice on simple (and healthy) ways to boost calorie intake?

    Try eating more.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited August 2007
    Philodox wrote: »
    Does anybody have advice on simple (and healthy) ways to boost calorie intake? I've hit a pleateau where I can't gain muscle mass for the life of me, and I strongly believe that it has to do with lack of calories. Alternatively, can I tweak my workout routine to get better results?

    My workout routine looks something like:
    Sun: Legs
    Mon: Chest
    Tues: Arms
    Wed: off
    Thurs: Shoulders/Lats
    Fri: anything that's feeling under worked
    Sat: off

    I run a mile as a warmup and I do some kind of ab and back exercise before doing that day's section. I try to rotate the exercises I do on each section every couple of weeks.

    are you on steroids? because if not you're overtraining

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  • FromAlpha2OmegaFromAlpha2Omega Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Philodox wrote: »
    Sure

    Like I say I rotate, I've been going to the gym 5x a week since march. Sorry some of the non technical terms :P

    Every day I'll do one of:
    -Incline situp throwing a 6lb medicine ball against the wall (3x12)
    -Incline situp twisting at the top (3x12)
    -Incline situp w/ 10lb weight over my head (3x8)

    For back I'll either do back extensions (3x25), straight armed lift of a 25 lb weight over my head (3x12), or seated rows (5x5).

    For good measure I'll sometimes do 3x12 dips as well.

    Legs:
    squats 5x5 or leg press 3 sets of 10x on each leg then 20x with both
    leg extensions 5x5

    Chest:
    chest press 5x5
    incline chest press 5x5
    drop set 2x using cable machine

    Arms:
    dumbell curl 5x5
    drop set on a preacher curl x2
    pushdown 5x5

    Shoulders/Lats
    Pulldown 5x5
    Cable shoulder press 5x5
    Military press 5x5

    Diet:
    Breakfast: Big bowl of cheerios
    Lunch: chicken or turkey sandwich
    Dinner: whatever happens to be available

    I'll usually have some chocolate milk and coffee during the day. I also try to take in 1 gram of protein supplement per pound bodyweight taken over the course of the day (when I wake up, after I get home from work, and after I get home from the gym)
    You should eat more frequently. 3 meals a day won't cut it. We're talking 5-6.

    Also, I think your work out is really asymmetric and redundant. You do a 5x5 bench followed by a 5x5 incline bench? And pretty minimal back. That's not how you gain strength. Your legs is basically just quads. I'd really try to get a balance going for muscle groups like adding hamstrings to your legs regimen and make sure you're not working out on rest days (i.e. arms directly after chest). What are your fitness goals?

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  • PhilodoxPhilodox Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Thanks. That workout isn't set in stone, I do rotate the exercises.

    As I originally said I'm looking for easy ways to boost my calorie intake. My problem is I don't have much time during the day to make food. I figure the solution is to eat more, but I don't want to start stuffing myself with shit.

    Since you say I'm overtraining (and no, I'm not on steroids) would you suggest I cut my workout down to three days a week? Are there physical signs I should have noticed to indicate that I was overtraining?

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  • SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Ok guys, starting this weekend, I'm really doing it. I'm going to cut out just about all my fast food and other dining out, and I'm going to only eat meals I prepare myself. This is a big step for me because I fucking suck at the kind of advance planning that this will require, and I also am not generally a fan of cooking. But I wasn't making any progress doing my normal eating routine, so it's time for a change.

    Each time I screw it up, I'm gonna post in here. Feel free to call me names.

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  • JeffHJeffH Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Philodox wrote: »
    Thanks. That workout isn't set in stone, I do rotate the exercises.

    As I originally said I'm looking for easy ways to boost my calorie intake. My problem is I don't have much time during the day to make food. I figure the solution is to eat more, but I don't want to start stuffing myself with shit.

    protein shakes

    quick and easy

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  • PhilodoxPhilodox Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I'm already taking in ~1g per lb body weight, will it do anything to drink more?

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  • MurphyMurphy Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Ok guys, starting this weekend, I'm really doing it. I'm going to cut out just about all my fast food and other dining out, and I'm going to only eat meals I prepare myself. This is a big step for me because I fucking suck at the kind of advance planning that this will require, and I also am not generally a fan of cooking. But I wasn't making any progress doing my normal eating routine, so it's time for a change.

    Each time I screw it up, I'm gonna post in here. Feel free to call me names.
    Feel free to ignore me, but I think you might have more luck if you're not quite so "all or nothing" about it. Start small by eliminating the things that are worst for you. As Thanatos mentioned in the OP, sometimes you can't avoid Fast Food. But if you know what you can eat, you can still have a relatively healthy meal without throwing everything off track. You can also dine out at regular restaurants, again, as long as you know what to order. Don't have that huge bowl of pasta (not just for nutrition, but because the markup on pasta is crazy), or that huge burger with a side of fries. Have something more moderately sized, and if there is a part of the meal you know you shouldn't be eating, try to substitute something healthier, or just don't eat it.

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  • mastmanmastman Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Ok guys, starting this weekend, I'm really doing it. I'm going to cut out just about all my fast food and other dining out, and I'm going to only eat meals I prepare myself. This is a big step for me because I fucking suck at the kind of advance planning that this will require, and I also am not generally a fan of cooking. But I wasn't making any progress doing my normal eating routine, so it's time for a change.

    Each time I screw it up, I'm gonna post in here. Feel free to call me names.

    sammiches are easy to plan for in advance, easy to make, and who doesn't like sammiches. Bake/grill a bunch of chicken/turkey/fish on Sunday, refigerator it, add it to veggies or whathaveyou during the week. Saves tons of time during the week if that is a problem.

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  • SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Murphy wrote: »
    Ok guys, starting this weekend, I'm really doing it. I'm going to cut out just about all my fast food and other dining out, and I'm going to only eat meals I prepare myself. This is a big step for me because I fucking suck at the kind of advance planning that this will require, and I also am not generally a fan of cooking. But I wasn't making any progress doing my normal eating routine, so it's time for a change.

    Each time I screw it up, I'm gonna post in here. Feel free to call me names.
    Feel free to ignore me, but I think you might have more luck if you're not quite so "all or nothing" about it. Start small by eliminating the things that are worst for you. As Thanatos mentioned in the OP, sometimes you can't avoid Fast Food. But if you know what you can eat, you can still have a relatively healthy meal without throwing everything off track. You can also dine out at regular restaurants, again, as long as you know what to order. Don't have that huge bowl of pasta (not just for nutrition, but because the markup on pasta is crazy), or that huge burger with a side of fries. Have something more moderately sized, and if there is a part of the meal you know you shouldn't be eating, try to substitute something healthier, or just don't eat it.

    I've been kinda doing that for a while, or trying to, but I'm not very good at it, and it hasn't been working. Part of the reason I'm being so all or nothing is that it's much simpler for me to make a zero-tolerance policy, rather than weigh and balance each individual meal's worth. Also, I plan on doing a lot of cooking for the week on sunday, and it feels more worth it to me if I'm cooking for every meal I'll have that week.

    Also, some of the places I eat out from at work don't have nutrition info available (at least, not online), and it's much simpler for me to track my percentages and stuff if I'm making it myself.

    This isn't some spur of the moment thing, I've been building up to this point for weeks. I just am finally getting up the gumption to do it.

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  • JeffHJeffH Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Philodox wrote: »
    I'm already taking in ~1g per lb body weight, will it do anything to drink more?

    On a bulk, yeah, it will help you. Just eat more and eat clean, bulking is the easy part ;)

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  • JeffHJeffH Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    So, I'm on a cut, and it's been going well. 7 pounds in 7 weeks, lost 2.5 percent BF (roughly, I'm just using a shitty BF scale just to show progress)

    So my friend and I made goals for ourselves and both made them as of today, last Friday in August. For some reason we celebrated our cutting success by going to a sushi buffet. I ate a ton, and am thinking about hitting the gym to bike for an hour to work it off. Will this basically nullify the huge meal, or am I still going to gain some fat? I'm shooting to get sub 10% BF by Halloween...need to keep on the path :P

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  • MurphyMurphy Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Murphy wrote: »
    Ok guys, starting this weekend, I'm really doing it. I'm going to cut out just about all my fast food and other dining out, and I'm going to only eat meals I prepare myself. This is a big step for me because I fucking suck at the kind of advance planning that this will require, and I also am not generally a fan of cooking. But I wasn't making any progress doing my normal eating routine, so it's time for a change.

    Each time I screw it up, I'm gonna post in here. Feel free to call me names.
    Feel free to ignore me, but I think you might have more luck if you're not quite so "all or nothing" about it. Start small by eliminating the things that are worst for you. As Thanatos mentioned in the OP, sometimes you can't avoid Fast Food. But if you know what you can eat, you can still have a relatively healthy meal without throwing everything off track. You can also dine out at regular restaurants, again, as long as you know what to order. Don't have that huge bowl of pasta (not just for nutrition, but because the markup on pasta is crazy), or that huge burger with a side of fries. Have something more moderately sized, and if there is a part of the meal you know you shouldn't be eating, try to substitute something healthier, or just don't eat it.

    I've been kinda doing that for a while, or trying to, but I'm not very good at it, and it hasn't been working. Part of the reason I'm being so all or nothing is that it's much simpler for me to make a zero-tolerance policy, rather than weigh and balance each individual meal's worth. Also, I plan on doing a lot of cooking for the week on sunday, and it feels more worth it to me if I'm cooking for every meal I'll have that week.

    Also, some of the places I eat out from at work don't have nutrition info available (at least, not online), and it's much simpler for me to track my percentages and stuff if I'm making it myself.

    This isn't some spur of the moment thing, I've been building up to this point for weeks. I just am finally getting up the gumption to do it.
    That makes sense, and I do understand. I just worry because I've found that "all or nothing" plans tend to fail pretty easily. But I certainly hope you can make it work. :)

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  • variantvariant Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I went to my school gym last night, quite de-moralizing. 200+ dudes all jacked.

    And I tripped on the treadmill, but luckily caught the rail before I flew off. Dude next to me was like "yep everything here sucks." Couple of minutes later, a girl flew off hers and hit the elliptical behind her, ouch.

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  • MurphyMurphy Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    variant wrote: »
    I went to my school gym last night, quite de-moralizing. 200+ dudes all jacked.
    Yeah, my school keeps telling me about their gym, but I'm not so sure I want to to work out with a bunch of 18-22 year olds in top physical shape. I already feel bad enough about how I look.

    Oh, and my workout yesterday fucked up my back. I can't stand up straight today (long standing issue with my back, so I'm used to it).

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  • FrogFrog Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Hi guys and gals. Great thread!

    So I was hoping for some advice. I am currently 5'10 and weigh 180. According to the trainer I had about 8 months ago, my ideal weight is going to be about 175. Sadly, I did not have the funds to retain my trainer and have since lapsed in even going to the gym (typical right?).

    Meanwhile, I am attempting to figure out how to pay for college and become involved in something for once in my life. So the next bit is I plan on becoming a male cheerleader when I transfer to Washington State University in order to both become involved and (hopefully) earn some scholarships. Gay jokes aside, I think it would be a lot of fun.

    I do leave a somewhat busy life between working 40 hours a week and attend Community College full time, but have access to a gym whenever I need one. Which would basically be in the evenings after I get out of work.

    So here are some things I would greatly appreciate input on.

    1) What are some good resources for work out routines that male cheerleader may use, or anything similar.

    2) What are some easy meals to prepare ahead of time that will last for a few days and still be good for when I am at school/work and do not have access to a kitchen. Note, I am horrible with portions so I want to pre-portion things to maintain some semblance of a diet.

    3) Are there any drawbacks to doing a workout late at night before going to sleep?

    4) I basically now nothing of lifting or the machines they stock at 24 hour fitness, so please dumb things down if you guys/gals can.

    Thanks in advance.

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  • Folken FanelFolken Fanel anime af When's KoFRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Frog wrote: »
    Hi guys and gals. Great thread!

    So I was hoping for some advice. I am currently 5'10 and weigh 180. According to the trainer I had about 8 months ago, my ideal weight is going to be about 175. Sadly, I did not have the funds to retain my trainer and have since lapsed in even going to the gym (typical right?).

    Meanwhile, I am attempting to figure out how to pay for college and become involved in something for once in my life. So the next bit is I plan on becoming a male cheerleader when I transfer to Washington State University in order to both become involved and (hopefully) earn some scholarships. Gay jokes aside, I think it would be a lot of fun.

    I do leave a somewhat busy life between working 40 hours a week and attend Community College full time, but have access to a gym whenever I need one. Which would basically be in the evenings after I get out of work.

    So here are some things I would greatly appreciate input on.

    1) What are some good resources for work out routines that male cheerleader may use, or anything similar.

    2) What are some easy meals to prepare ahead of time that will last for a few days and still be good for when I am at school/work and do not have access to a kitchen. Note, I am horrible with portions so I want to pre-portion things to maintain some semblance of a diet.

    3) Are there any drawbacks to doing a workout late at night before going to sleep?

    4) I basically now nothing of lifting or the machines they stock at 24 hour fitness, so please dumb things down if you guys/gals can.

    Thanks in advance.

    1) If you're going to be a male cheerleader, you should probably do some overhead shoulder presses so it'll be easy to lift cheerleaders over your head. Other than that, keep with bench press/squats/deadlifts.

    2) See the OP

    3) I always like to workout at those times of the day when I have the most energy so I can get the most out of my workout. This time is never right before i go to bed.

    4) www.exrx.net

    One more thing: I gave my buddy in high school a great deal of shit for being a male cheerleader. Called him a fag every day. Then he told me about how much vagina he got and I shut the fuck up.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Murphy wrote: »
    variant wrote: »
    I went to my school gym last night, quite de-moralizing. 200+ dudes all jacked.
    Yeah, my school keeps telling me about their gym, but I'm not so sure I want to to work out with a bunch of 18-22 year olds in top physical shape. I already feel bad enough about how I look.

    Oh, and my workout yesterday fucked up my back. I can't stand up straight today (long standing issue with my back, so I'm used to it).
    Out of curiosity, do you guys stop leaving the house because there are people out there walking around who are better at walking than you, or better at dressing than you?

    I mean, really, there's not much you can do about it other than just get over it. Honest-to-god, no one cares. No one. They will, at worst, ask you when you're going to be done with a machine/weight set, maybe ask to work in. Seriously, if your obstacle to going to the gym is "there will be better-looking people there than me," you're really just looking for excuses to not go.

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  • PhilodoxPhilodox Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    When I started going to the gym I was a super awesome mix of flabby and scrawny. Now I still have a bit of flab (damn you, midsection!) but I've also gained good amounts of muscle everywhere else.

    Moral of the story: who the fuck cares what other people at the gym look like? Given enough time and determination you'll be one of "them". If something like that scares you off you'll never improve your appearance.

    note: IMHO you should be going to the gym to improve your health, not the way you look. Looking better can be a nice side effect, but the quality of life improvement is the big benefit.

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  • HumbleDeeHumbleDee Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Frog wrote: »
    1) What are some good resources for work out routines that male cheerleader may use, or anything similar.

    Male cheerleader requires balance and strength endurance as well as good overall fitness level to last through the act. Pick exercises that are standing, like standing military press, squat, dead lift, etc to help with your balance. Exercises that relies on your body weight like push up, chin up, dips, and handstand push up can also help. I also would add a "hold period" on your last set and repetition. That is if you are doing military press, just hold the weight above you for as long as you can. For good overall fitness, just pick a cardio exercise you like.
    2) What are some easy meals to prepare ahead of time that will last for a few days and still be good for when I am at school/work and do not have access to a kitchen. Note, I am horrible with portions so I want to pre-portion things to maintain some semblance of a diet.

    Generally is not wise to keep food for few days, but if you must make sure its kept properly so it doesn't go bad. I would nominate a good sandwich with whole meal bread, some vegetable like shredded carrot, lettuce, tomatoes, etc Pick a good source of protein that you like chicken breast, fish like tuna or lean cut steak. Since you don't have access to a kitchen you probably have to get those from a take out. One well made sandwich for your lunch and dinner should be good. Pair it with some fruit like apple or orange. For your other meal pick something simple maybe oats for breakfast, some nuts and yogurt for in between for your 5-6 meals a day eating. Also make sure you drink healthy amount of water through out the day. I would steer clear from all sugary beverages.

    3) Are there any drawbacks to doing a workout late at night before going to sleep?

    The only drawback is that you might be too tired. It's so darn easy to just say "screw it, there will be another day tomorrow" when you work out so late. But beside that I don't see anything else wrong with working out at night.
    4) I basically now nothing of lifting or the machines they stock at 24 hour fitness, so please dumb things down if you guys/gals can.

    Thanks in advance.

    You had a trainer before starts from where you left off. Fitness magazines contained a lot of tips and workout and they are very good. But don't get too carry away with them. Just keep it simple.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Frog wrote: »
    3) Are there any drawbacks to doing a workout late at night before going to sleep?
    Some people have trouble going to sleep right after a workout.

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  • MurphyMurphy Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Thinatos wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, do you guys stop leaving the house because there are people out there walking around who are better at walking than you, or better at dressing than you?
    Actually for a while, I did. Not because people were better looking than me, but because I was really ashamed of how I had let myself go. But that's my own personal issue. I'm not exactly proud of it.
    I mean, really, there's not much you can do about it other than just get over it. Honest-to-god, no one cares. No one. They will, at worst, ask you when you're going to be done with a machine/weight set, maybe ask to work in. Seriously, if your obstacle to going to the gym is "there will be better-looking people there than me," you're really just looking for excuses to not go.
    I know this. I already go to the gym in my building. It's full of people closer to my age, in varying degrees of fitness, and I don't feel quite so intimidated. Yes, it's silly to feel intimidated by people who are in the kind of physical shape I'd like to be, especially when they probably don't even notice that I'm there, but that doesn't necessarily mean I can just get over that little self-esteem issue instantly.

    Basically, I'm not making excuses. I mean, I didn't work out today because I couldn't stand up straight, but tomorrow I should be fine, and I'll be right back in there.

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  • ZeeBeeKayZeeBeeKay Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Hey, all.

    I tried using a captain's chair thing (I think that's what it's called...you have your arms on these rests and your back up against a pad and then try to lift your legs with your abs so that you're in a sitting position), but it didn't feel like it was doing anything to my abs, just like I was putting pressure on my arms and using my leg muscles to bring them up. Is there any good way to force myself to use the muscles I want to work (abs) in this situation? Or should I just spend some time and figure it out?

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  • PhilodoxPhilodox Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Try keeping your legs straight and bring them parallel to the floor.

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  • ege02ege02 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    Cojones wrote: »
    ege02 wrote: »
    So.

    I want forearms like those of Popeye.

    Tell me what I need to do.
    A good(and fun!) way of building more substancial forearms is to start climbing. A local indoor climbing center should well have everything you need and won't cost all that much either. Outside of that, barbell wrist curls and reverse barbell wrist curls have everything you need.

    I have been climbing for the past seven months. It has done jack shit for my forearms.

    My back muscles have gotten massive, though.

    As for curls, I can't do them because I fucked up my left wrist about a year ago and doing curls makes it hurt like a bitch.

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  • UrianUrian __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    Do any of you guys have musclemilk bars? I just had one after working out today and damn was it good, lots of protein too (25g).

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Damnit. Finally get settled into this new school, go find the workout room, and it's friggen locked. What the balls school! My arms be needing some weightlifting!

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  • blue powderblue powder Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Two questions. Can anyone give a detailed explanation of how to do one armed pushups? I just want to do them to show off, I know they arn't that beneficial.

    Secondly, what's the deal with creatine, is it that great, I hear you just retain water or something. I'm on protein powder currently, is this more beneficial for becoming more lean?

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Secondly, what's the deal with creatine, is it that great, I hear you just retain water or something. I'm on protein powder currently, is this more beneficial for becoming more lean?
    Creatine is a supplement; it's a catalyst to muscle-building, whereas protein is a building-block. It's worth considering if you've plateau'd, and are having problems getting much more growth. Otherwise, just stick with what's working.

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  • blue powderblue powder Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Thanks, Thinatos. Through out the day, would it be okay to eat 9 grain biscuits?

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2007
    ...along with what else?

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  • blue powderblue powder Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I mean just as a snack, I often get hungry, and I'm trying to avoid eating crap, for my skin and health.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2007
    well, look at the packet and check the calories, and then total it up against whatever else you eat, and your target calories per day (I'm assuming you're aiming to lose weight here), and see if you've got room for them. There's nothing hideously wrong with them, they're just carbs and a bit of fat. We can't tell you squat without knowing your entire diet though.

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  • blue powderblue powder Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I don't really have a set diet, you know? I'll eat four weetbix in the morning, have several vitamin tablets. Afternoon I'll have a sandwich or something, or a bowl of rice, and then dinner I generally eat a steak, rice meal, or a pasta meal, though I try to avoid pasta due to the bad carbs.

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