The Sam & Max Season 2 Thread - GameTap 11/8, Global 11/9

Snowcone

Telltale just sent over 8 new screens and said that the trailer from PAX was now up on the site for everyone to see.

Trailer is here: http://www.telltalegames.com/samandmaxseasontwo

Screens:

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http://www.snackbar-games.com/news/new_sam__max_season_2_screens-2729.html

cj iwakura

I can only hope this has more Flint Paper.

brynstar

Haha! Whack Da Rat! Add a Snuckey's as a location and my adventure gaming life is complete.

I still really need to get around to finishing season one...

Spoit

It's a shame it looks like they didn't implement the improved shading in the trailer with these screenshots.

Glal

If by "improved shading" you mean "pre-rendered cinematic with in-game assets".

Alfred J. Kwak

Hm, I gotta ask, what are your thoughts about the Season 1? Maybe I gonna pick up the Wii edition that is supposedly coming out this christmas here in Europe, but I don't want to spend €40+ for a short and only mildly entertaining game. Does it really reaches the highs of the original game as some forumes here make me want to believe?

Cherrn

Season 1 was fantastic. It started out slow, but it became really great towards the end. The humor was consistent, though you can tell they switched the voice actor for Max about 3 times or so. If you like the original Sam 'n' Max you should definitely get Season 1. The writing is superb, and there's a lot of it.

As for comparisons to the original game? Well, there isn't a lot of variety in the early episodes, and the voice acting isn't as good. The series really opens up in the later chapters, though, as you can tell they gained experience from the first few. The writing is just as good, in my opinion, and it has a memorable cast of characters, which, as much as I like it, the original game really didn't; it relied more on the main characters and the surreal environments they traveled to. In that vein, Season 1 is more traditional, and a bit more down to earth, even though it does get crazy at times.

I'll definitely get this as soon as it is released.

DrunkMc

I need to finish season 1. I am in the middle of Episode 3.

I think they are getting better as they go along. Episode 2 was just a really great time in the TV Studio.

PatboyX

Season 1 was tons of fun and I will agree with what people have said. I think like a TV show, it needed time for the actors to find their voice and the writers to really get their style down.
After episode 2, I turned off the subtitles and text for the pointer and just my enjoyment grew tenfold.

IShallRiseAgain

I really need to pick up season 1, but my wallet is so overburdened with so many good games. If this were a true lucasart's game I would buy it in a second. Nonetheless, I know I will pick it up eventually.

emnmnme

Were there ever any plans to release the Sam and Max cartoons onto DVD? I never got around to watching them but I loved Hit the Road. It seems like any Sam and Max revival needs the cartoon series, too.

cj iwakura

I could have sworn I heard that some company is planning a release for it. Not sure when, though.

schmads

IShallRiseAgain wrote: »

I really need to pick up season 1, but my wallet is so overburdened with so many good games. If this were a true lucasart's game I would buy it in a second. Nonetheless, I know I will pick it up eventually.

Honestly, after seeing what Telltale has done with the game (though I haven't finished the whole season yet), I trust them more than I currently trust LucasArts. Mind you, if this was the LucasArts of Monkey Island days, I'd answer differently, but I doubt they exist any more. The current LucasArts hasn't made anything compelling for me personally in a while.

PatboyX

schmads wrote: »

IShallRiseAgain wrote: »

I really need to pick up season 1, but my wallet is so overburdened with so many good games. If this were a true lucasart's game I would buy it in a second. Nonetheless, I know I will pick it up eventually.

Honestly, after seeing what Telltale has done with the game (though I haven't finished the whole season yet), I trust them more than I currently trust LucasArts. Mind you, if this was the LucasArts of Monkey Island days, I'd answer differently, but I doubt they exist any more. The current LucasArts hasn't made anything compelling for me personally in a while.

I assume he meant in their day. I would say that Season 1 goes above and beyond the original game in some respects. The puzzles make more sense (which may be a problem because they are easier) and the conversations are pretty much perfect. Minus the bugs and if they had more character and scene variety in the first couple episodes, I'd have no problem handing this over to people first.

DarkWarrior

See, its been so long since I played the original game its hard to tell, but I remember it having some really fun parts (Though maybe they weren't fun I dont know). Stuff like the Freak Circus, the cube of ice and hte ice pick at teh end/sauna and the giant ball of yarn.

Then again maybe I would just like some more varied environments.

Sentry

Is this coming out for the Wii? Or for anything besides PC?

PatboyX

Sentry wrote: »

Is this coming out for the Wii? Or for anything besides PC?

I thought the first season was coming out on XBLA.

Krentz

emnmnme wrote: »

Were there ever any plans to release the Sam and Max cartoons onto DVD? I never got around to watching them but I loved Hit the Road. It seems like any Sam and Max revival needs the cartoon series, too.

You can watch a lot of them on Gametap, which is nice if you have a subscription to play Sam & Max already.

I've been a huge fan of Sam & Max since Hit the Road was released (It was my first "talking" game and was completely hilarious), and I was glad to see Telltale not completely rape my precious childhood memories. I actually enjoyed episodes 2 and 3 a lot more than I thought I would considering how they got relatively blasted in reviews. The rest of the episodes comprise an upward progression of quality and humor. I'm really looking forward to season 2.

I don't even really care if they change the graphics or gameplay. Leave it the same but keep the funny situations, interesting puzzles, and witty dialog coming and I'll be happy.

Cherrn

My problem with the original game is that there just isn't a whole lot of content. It's a short game, and there's not really a lot of dialogue in comparison to other Lucasarts games like Monkey Island. Season 1 fixes both of these problems with gusto, but loses out on the extreme unpredictability and spontaneity of Hit the Road. Either way, it's a great purchase if you like older adventure games - it's definitely reminiscent of Lucasarts' prime.

AlienCowThatMoos

I bought Season 1 on disc today. My first thought was disappointment that this is yet another PC release that doesn't even come with a 10 cent jewel case. Am I a terrible person?

AlienCowThatMoos

Hmm, I just discovered that my retail bought Sam & Max Season 1 is infected with SecuROM. Is it true that the subscriber version isn't? Other than that, what's the difference?

Slicer

Seems the first episode is out tomorrow (or today if you're going to play it via Gametap). Anyone else excited?

On a related note, The 4th episode of the first season, Abe Lincoln Must Die, is now free. So anyone who hasn't tried out the new series yet now has no excuse not to.

Spoit

Season 1 really didn't have a jewel case? I thought they came in one of those nifty plastic DVD case/ box things that most new games are put in. http://telltalegames.com/store/samandmax-season1-disc.

EDIT: oh cool, they're going to have a reprint of surfing the highway

Jam Warrior

For reals? Hell Yes!

After thoroughly enjoying season 1 I'm more than happy to repeat my pre-purchase of the entire season. It went from strength to strength so here's hoping for a continued improvement.

I can't seem to find anywhere on the site where they'll take my season 2 money however...

Snowcone

Embargos on reviews are lifted today too so you should see reviews start to trickle out.

Glal

Jam Warrior wrote: »

I can't seem to find anywhere on the site where they'll take my season 2 money however...

ArcSyn

Downloading the free episode. I used to love Sam and Max the original back in the day, but completely forgot they started to make new games with them!

Snowcone

Jam Warrior wrote: »

For reals? Hell Yes!

After thoroughly enjoying season 1 I'm more than happy to repeat my pre-purchase of the entire season. It went from strength to strength so here's hoping for a continued improvement.

I can't seem to find anywhere on the site where they'll take my season 2 money however...

Today is GameTap only. Tomorrow is the global release.

Jam Warrior

Snowcone wrote: »

Jam Warrior wrote: »

For reals? Hell Yes!

After thoroughly enjoying season 1 I'm more than happy to repeat my pre-purchase of the entire season. It went from strength to strength so here's hoping for a continued improvement.

I can't seem to find anywhere on the site where they'll take my season 2 money however...

Today is GameTap only. Tomorrow is the global release.

I'm sure with season 1 I had pre-purchased many weeks before actual release. Maybe my brain is failing on me, or maybe they were more desperate for capital then, who can tell.

Snowcone

Spoit wrote: »

Season 1 really didn't have a jewel case? I thought they came in one of those nifty plastic DVD case/ box things that most new games are put in. http://telltalegames.com/store/samandmax-season1-disc.

EDIT: oh cool, they're going to have a reprint of surfing the highway

Nope. Someone at The Cover Project put together a cover for it. Temp link is in this thread: http://www.thecoverproject.net/forums/index.php?topic=1071.0

I'll post a perm-link to the cover in a few.

Edit: Link to the cover: http://www.thecoverproject.net/view.php?cover_id=5942

cooljammer00

The Max voice actor got sick, so they changed guys. The original plan for the cancelled game was to have the original VAs fight dopplegangers voiced by the TV show VAs.

Spoit

I remember seeing it in the plastic DVD case at Comic-con, I just threw the link in there to show what it looked like.

TxdoHawk

My wallet is already reeling from this month, totally forgot this hits tomorrow. I very much enjoyed Season 1 though, so I am all over this like white on rice.

Jam Warrior

Woot! It's out. Downloading right now.

Huzzah! Widescreen resolution, no more windowed play for me.

Hedgethorn

Just finished with Episode 1 of Season 2. I think it is significantly better than most of season 1; more locations, several new characters, slightly more intricate puzzles. All around, very well done.

Story Spoiler:

I especially enjoyed the tasks from the three spirits of Christmas. They were able to reuse existing areas and make them feel fresh, since you were interacting with them at a different time. Also look forward to getting Sam & Max trapped by lava, perhaps at the end of Season 2?

cooljammer00

I just beat ALMD!

I liked it. Shame I won't get to play 5 and 6 unless they freeware those too.

Der Waffle Mous

I've heard something about one of the first season episodes being free on Steam.

Hedgethorn

Der Waffle Mous wrote: »

I've heard something about one of the first season episodes being free on Steam.

I don't know about Steam, but Season 1 Episode 4 is currently available free via Gametap.

scootch

it's free on fileplanet and steam.

vhzod

aaand done with season 2 episode 1. All the puzzles were pretty logical and I didn't really ever get stuck. I'm glad somebody (I'm looking at you valve) knows how to do episodic content right.

TxdoHawk

Just beat Season 2 episode 1. Random thoughts (major puzzle/story spoilers, don't click until you've beaten it)

- I like that they crank up the crude just a little bit for this one. Jokes about Bosco's "package" and the like were pretty hilarious, but they didn't go overboard. This is pretty much the level at where I want to see these games in terms of raunchiness.

- Did anyone else spend 20 minutes trying to figure out what the bomber was supposed to be used for, before the final puzzle? :P

- Fucking around with the timeline via the spirits was interesting. The present and future portal puzzles were pretty ho-hum, but I loved the past portal, messing with Jimmy Two Teeth and his wife. Beating Jimmy up with a robot doll to ruin his boxing career, stealing his wife from the past, using her to convince him not to jump in the present, and then stealing his boxing glove, so you can give it to him in the past to restart his career? Too funny, so very brilliantly Sam and Max in that charmingly demented way.

- I also thought the trivia contest puzzle was fairly clever too.

- Telltale seems to be getting better at making logical puzzles that aren't blindingly easy. The only one I struggled with was helping the Bug get rid of his family in the past. I think a lot of people will get the general idea of what to do, but won't figure out that the treated snow is what you need to accomplish the job. I kind of tripped over the solution to this randomly.

All in all, while just a little short, I enjoyed it, and look forward to the next episode.