Did We Forget Something? PSP 2.0

DarkWarrior

Thanks for the answers Syndalis and Bruin. Portable gaming isn't my thing but I'm still interested in this new model since I work in a game store and we're expecting this soon.

The Wolfman

That's thinner? Looks like they shaved less than a quarter of an inch off and called it a day. Is it at least noticeably lighter feeling?

Think I too would rather just stick with what I got. The big thing, the TV out feature, is DOA if it requires a progressive scan output. Having to pull the TV out from behind the wall to reach the hookups every time I want to play on the big screen is so not going to be worth the trouble.

I wasn't expecting a drastic change like the DS got, but geez.

syndalis

The Wolfman wrote: »

That's thinner? Looks like they shaved less than a quarter of an inch off and called it a day. Is it at least noticeably lighter feeling?

Think I too would rather just stick with what I got. The big thing, the TV out feature, is DOA if it requires a progressive scan output. Having to pull the TV out from behind the wall to reach the hookups every time I want to play on the big screen is so not going to be worth the trouble.

I wasn't expecting a drastic change like the DS got, but geez.

Despite any bitching you may have noticed, I really like the way the new model feels. The tiniest changes made a big difference to how it felt in my hands, and the dpad is fucking wonderful.

Now to find a bigger battery, since this guys is more power efficient, but they put less MAH under the hood as a result.

The Wolfman

syndalis wrote: »

The Wolfman wrote: »

That's thinner? Looks like they shaved less than a quarter of an inch off and called it a day. Is it at least noticeably lighter feeling?

Think I too would rather just stick with what I got. The big thing, the TV out feature, is DOA if it requires a progressive scan output. Having to pull the TV out from behind the wall to reach the hookups every time I want to play on the big screen is so not going to be worth the trouble.

I wasn't expecting a drastic change like the DS got, but geez.

Despite any bitching you may have noticed, I really like the way the new model feels. The tiniest changes made a big difference to how it felt in my hands, and the dpad is fucking wonderful.

Now to find a bigger battery, since this guys is more power efficient, but they put less MAH under the hood as a result.

That's cool. My hand cramps up something fierce when using it, especially when using the analog nub. So maybe the lighter weight helps.

But like I said, I would have gotten it for the TV out. But if it's prog scan only, it borders on uselessness, so the money is better spent elsewhere. Ah well.

Zephyr

The Wolfman wrote: »

That's thinner? Looks like they shaved less than a quarter of an inch off and called it a day. Is it at least noticeably lighter feeling?

Think I too would rather just stick with what I got. The big thing, the TV out feature, is DOA if it requires a progressive scan output. Having to pull the TV out from behind the wall to reach the hookups every time I want to play on the big screen is so not going to be worth the trouble.

I wasn't expecting a drastic change like the DS got, but geez.

* Better Wi-Fi conection.
* Faster loading times by storing UMD data in temporary memory.
* Internal memory (RAM and FlashROM) increase from 32 MB to 64 MB.
* Improved battery life due to lower power consumption, and battery recharge over the USB data connection. However the old, higher-capacity PSP battery will still be compatible and using it will give an increased battery life, but the battery cover will not close when using the old battery due to the larger size.
* Weight has been reduced by 33%.
* Unit is 19% narrower (slimmer) in thickness.
* A video-out port for displaying on a TV.
* Improved responsiveness of d-pad[4] and buttons, confirmed in the GameSpot "hands-on" review: "several GameSpot editors have noticed that the d-pad and buttons on the new PSP provide a little more tactile feedback for a better overall feel."[5]
* Wi-Fi switch moved to the top of the console.
* New UMD loading tray design.
* Removal of the infra-red port.
* Speakers repositioned on the front of the PSP near the top of the screen.
* Memory Stick slot has been relocated.

uh yeah that's a pretty drastic change

The_Spaniard

syndalis wrote: »

okay, I got the p2000 today.

The daxter pack did not come with headphones or the tv out cable like I thought it would. Nor was there any kind of sock, sleeve, or screen protector. Lame.

But the system is great. Just finished playing an hour of Jeanne d'Arc, and it feels better in my hands than my friends old PSP, and the dpad is worlds beyond the old one.

How did you get it today?

Henroid

Zephyr wrote: »

The Wolfman wrote: »

That's thinner? Looks like they shaved less than a quarter of an inch off and called it a day. Is it at least noticeably lighter feeling?

Think I too would rather just stick with what I got. The big thing, the TV out feature, is DOA if it requires a progressive scan output. Having to pull the TV out from behind the wall to reach the hookups every time I want to play on the big screen is so not going to be worth the trouble.

I wasn't expecting a drastic change like the DS got, but geez.

* Better Wi-Fi conection.
* Faster loading times by storing UMD data in temporary memory.
* Internal memory (RAM and FlashROM) increase from 32 MB to 64 MB.
* Improved battery life due to lower power consumption, and battery recharge over the USB data connection. However the old, higher-capacity PSP battery will still be compatible and using it will give an increased battery life, but the battery cover will not close when using the old battery due to the larger size.
* Weight has been reduced by 33%.
* Unit is 19% narrower (slimmer) in thickness.
* A video-out port for displaying on a TV.
* Improved responsiveness of d-pad[4] and buttons, confirmed in the GameSpot "hands-on" review: "several GameSpot editors have noticed that the d-pad and buttons on the new PSP provide a little more tactile feedback for a better overall feel."[5]
* Wi-Fi switch moved to the top of the console.
* New UMD loading tray design.
* Removal of the infra-red port.
* Speakers repositioned on the front of the PSP near the top of the screen.
* Memory Stick slot has been relocated.

uh yeah that's a pretty drastic change

I'm impressed, and good on me for not getting a PSP yet. Now I can get a super cool version! <.<

This has probably been answered numerous times before, but is the pricing going to stay the same as the current PSP model?

The Wolfman

Zephyr wrote: »

The Wolfman wrote: »

That's thinner? Looks like they shaved less than a quarter of an inch off and called it a day. Is it at least noticeably lighter feeling?

Think I too would rather just stick with what I got. The big thing, the TV out feature, is DOA if it requires a progressive scan output. Having to pull the TV out from behind the wall to reach the hookups every time I want to play on the big screen is so not going to be worth the trouble.

I wasn't expecting a drastic change like the DS got, but geez.

* Better Wi-Fi conection.
* Faster loading times by storing UMD data in temporary memory.
* Internal memory (RAM and FlashROM) increase from 32 MB to 64 MB.
* Improved battery life due to lower power consumption, and battery recharge over the USB data connection. However the old, higher-capacity PSP battery will still be compatible and using it will give an increased battery life, but the battery cover will not close when using the old battery due to the larger size.
* Weight has been reduced by 33%.
* Unit is 19% narrower (slimmer) in thickness.
* A video-out port for displaying on a TV.
* Improved responsiveness of d-pad[4] and buttons, confirmed in the GameSpot "hands-on" review: "several GameSpot editors have noticed that the d-pad and buttons on the new PSP provide a little more tactile feedback for a better overall feel."[5]
* Wi-Fi switch moved to the top of the console.
* New UMD loading tray design.
* Removal of the infra-red port.
* Speakers repositioned on the front of the PSP near the top of the screen.
* Memory Stick slot has been relocated.

uh yeah that's a pretty drastic change

Bolded for "big whoop". Faster loading is nice. Dunno what effect having more memory will have. Probably only for faster loading, because no games can use it. And while a better Dpad and buttons are nice, that's fixing a problem that should have been fixed during the design of the PSP to begin with. And then the whole "game output must be in high def" bullshit.

I'll say it one more time. Props if this is your first PSP or whatnot. Certainly the one to get if you want one. But there's nothing here for me that warrants even thinking of an upgrade.

syndalis

The Wolfman wrote: »

Zephyr wrote: »

The Wolfman wrote: »

That's thinner? Looks like they shaved less than a quarter of an inch off and called it a day. Is it at least noticeably lighter feeling?

Think I too would rather just stick with what I got. The big thing, the TV out feature, is DOA if it requires a progressive scan output. Having to pull the TV out from behind the wall to reach the hookups every time I want to play on the big screen is so not going to be worth the trouble.

I wasn't expecting a drastic change like the DS got, but geez.

* Better Wi-Fi conection.
* Faster loading times by storing UMD data in temporary memory.
* Internal memory (RAM and FlashROM) increase from 32 MB to 64 MB.
* Improved battery life due to lower power consumption, and battery recharge over the USB data connection. However the old, higher-capacity PSP battery will still be compatible and using it will give an increased battery life, but the battery cover will not close when using the old battery due to the larger size.
* Weight has been reduced by 33%.
* Unit is 19% narrower (slimmer) in thickness.
* A video-out port for displaying on a TV.
* Improved responsiveness of d-pad[4] and buttons, confirmed in the GameSpot "hands-on" review: "several GameSpot editors have noticed that the d-pad and buttons on the new PSP provide a little more tactile feedback for a better overall feel."[5]
* Wi-Fi switch moved to the top of the console.
* New UMD loading tray design.
* Removal of the infra-red port.
* Speakers repositioned on the front of the PSP near the top of the screen.
* Memory Stick slot has been relocated.

uh yeah that's a pretty drastic change

Bolded for "big whoop". Faster loading is nice. Dunno what effect having more memory will have. Probably only for faster loading, because no games can use it. And while a better Dpad and buttons are nice, that's fixing a problem that should have been fixed during the design of the PSP to begin with. And then the whole "game output must be in high def" bullshit.

I'll say it one more time. Props if this is your first PSP or whatnot. Certainly the one to get if you want one. But there's nothing here for me that warrants even thinking of an upgrade.

you are right in that it is a rather small list for folks to consider buying yet another PSP just for the upgrades...


but these upgrades (especially the feel of it and the reduced loadtimes) are what pushed me over the edge into buying one in the first place.

syndalis

Oh, and I got it at my local target. There were ten behind the glass. This thing is by no means streetdated, so when it arrives, it goes for sale.

syndalis

HAY GUYS!



Guess what I found?

Sony wasn't completely retarded.

brynstar

Even though I have no business thinking about getting one of these...I may have to get one, just for improved comfort in hands and the new buttons alone. I love my current PSP, and this sounds like just what I would want in a new model.

Now, I just have to convince myself not to go out hunting for it tonight, even though I'm lame and have nothing else to do.

Ah crap, I'm going.

Henroid

Syndalis, uh, what's that mean? <.<;;

syndalis

you can output via progressive OR interlace.

edit: SDTVs are fine, despite some mangled wordings in earlier PR.

The Wolfman

syndalis wrote: »

you can output via progressive OR interlace.

edit: SDTVs are fine, despite some mangled wordings in earlier PR.

Have you gotten it to work? Somewhere it was said that you can output UMD's and videos via regular interlaced, but it's the games that must be in progressive scan.

PikaPuff

So does the 360 component cables support 480i?

syndalis

PikaPuff wrote: »

So does the 360 component cables support 480i?

...yes.

The 360 can output 480i through component just fine. Just flip the switch on the cable to SDTV.

Was this even a question?



Anyways, it doesn't matter. There are composite cables at my target for the PSP 2000, so this really is a total non issue.

Tjere is one thing... games do not fill the screen.



But it is still awesome.

Dublo7

I'm surprised at how good it actually looks on that big screen.

MHYoshimitzu

I would have liked a letterbox look. Almost like you're playing a game in widescreen, but this is nice, too.

Dublo7

Maybe in some later firmware update, they will allow you to zoom the picture in a bit.

Come on, Hackers, work your bloody magic so I can get a Slim.

The Wolfman

Huzzah! They're not idiots! In other words, it was meant to say "Games can be output in progressive scan", not "Games must be output in progressive scan".

Ok, I've no grievances with this now. Might pick one up in the future, but the regular one is more than sufficient for now.

All they need now is to make an adapter that allows you to use a Playstation controller when in TV mode.

Unco-ordinated

The Wolfman wrote: »

Zephyr wrote: »

The Wolfman wrote: »

That's thinner? Looks like they shaved less than a quarter of an inch off and called it a day. Is it at least noticeably lighter feeling?

Think I too would rather just stick with what I got. The big thing, the TV out feature, is DOA if it requires a progressive scan output. Having to pull the TV out from behind the wall to reach the hookups every time I want to play on the big screen is so not going to be worth the trouble.

I wasn't expecting a drastic change like the DS got, but geez.

* Better Wi-Fi conection.
* Faster loading times by storing UMD data in temporary memory.
* Internal memory (RAM and FlashROM) increase from 32 MB to 64 MB.
* Improved battery life due to lower power consumption, and battery recharge over the USB data connection. However the old, higher-capacity PSP battery will still be compatible and using it will give an increased battery life, but the battery cover will not close when using the old battery due to the larger size.
* Weight has been reduced by 33%.
* Unit is 19% narrower (slimmer) in thickness.
* A video-out port for displaying on a TV.
* Improved responsiveness of d-pad[4] and buttons, confirmed in the GameSpot "hands-on" review: "several GameSpot editors have noticed that the d-pad and buttons on the new PSP provide a little more tactile feedback for a better overall feel."[5]
* Wi-Fi switch moved to the top of the console.
* New UMD loading tray design.
* Removal of the infra-red port.
* Speakers repositioned on the front of the PSP near the top of the screen.
* Memory Stick slot has been relocated.

uh yeah that's a pretty drastic change

Bolded for "big whoop". Faster loading is nice. Dunno what effect having more memory will have. Probably only for faster loading, because no games can use it. And while a better Dpad and buttons are nice, that's fixing a problem that should have been fixed during the design of the PSP to begin with. And then the whole "game output must be in high def" bullshit.

I'll say it one more time. Props if this is your first PSP or whatnot. Certainly the one to get if you want one. But there's nothing here for me that warrants even thinking of an upgrade.

I actually think it was a great idea to move the speakers (they were in a horrible place previously) and the wi-fi switch (I always accidentally turn it off/on).

Anyway, Jeanne d'Arc on your tv looks fucking awesome. I'm having to replay through it right now, since my previous save is right before the last boss and I'm way underleveled.

Minerva_SC

syndalis wrote: »

Oh, and I got it at my local target. There were ten behind the glass. This thing is by no means streetdated, so when it arrives, it goes for sale.

Are you sure? I work at Target and we got some, though I was told not to put them out.

syndalis

Minerva_SC wrote: »

syndalis wrote: »

Oh, and I got it at my local target. There were ten behind the glass. This thing is by no means streetdated, so when it arrives, it goes for sale.

Are you sure? I work at Target and we got some, though I was told not to put them out.

Then my target was retarded. Either way, woohoo.

I think I am in love with this little handheld. Going to try Libery City Stories later tonight.

ManetherenWolf

Gamestops should have them now. Our area got them today, and no they are not street dated.

I am trading my PSP in this weekend and buying the new one. Just gotta find a Component cable tommorrow.

Minerva_SC

Gamespot did some testing on the faster loading of games, although they only did a few it seems to be a 0-20% decrease in loading times.

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6177882/index.html?tag=topslot;title;3

Dublo7

Joystiq did the same and they found that some games even take longer to load (Syphon Filter).

brynstar

I went around and looked at many places, didn't find any in my area. Checked my Gamestop, guy I know there said no one had gotten them in yet in our region but he'd call me when they did.

On the plus side I found a copy of Fallout collection at Fry's, which I've been trying to find for a while as I've never played them.

But yeah, I think I'll just wait till next week when it looks like they'll be more plentiful.

PikaPuff

Fun times. Went to gamestop and asked about the PSP2.0. They replied "PSP slim? no clue when that's coming out."

Later on I notice the daxter PSP boxes on the shelf. "Oh yeah, we got all these daxter PSPs in today. Still no idea when the new one's coming out though."

"Uh, I'm pretty sure that's the new version."

"Oh, really?"

Woodroez

rofl

Syphon Filter takes LONGER to load?? I don't recall thinking the load times were bad in the old one, but you know, when the point is that it should be shorter...goddamnit.

syndalis

Well, I can now say beyond any shadow of a doubt that I am happy with my purchase of a PSP. Jeanne d'Arc, Daxter, and the GTA games will keep me busy for a long ass time.

Then, FFT will come along and own me outright.

Between the PSP, DS, 360, Wii and PC games I want to play, it will be a miracle if I get any work done.

So, out of curiosity... I have GTA VCS and LCS, Daxter, Jeanne d'Arc, FF2, THP8, and Smackdown vs. Raw 07.

Aside from the OBVIOUS must buys like MGS: Portable Ops, what are the good games for the system I should own?

Minerva_SC

-Monster Hunter Freedom 2 is great if you can get it online and you don't suck at it.
-A crap ton of RPG's like Valkrye Profile, Dragoneer's Aria, Brave Story and Riviera
-Puzzle games like Lumines, Puzzle Quest, Worms 2 and Crush are all great if your into that kind of thing.
-Killzone:Liberation, the Syphon filter games, Socom for action
-Fighters like Tekken , Guilty Gears and Street Fighter Alpha 3 which probably play much better with the new d-pad

Then games like God of War, Silent Hill origin, Crisis Core, and Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles coming out pretty soon, yeah, theres alot of crap on the psp. o_O

edit: o yeah, definetly Wipeout pure, TONS of downloadable content and fun as hell.

ben0207

Also,WipEout Pure

brynstar

I agree with Minerva, Brave Story is :^: Also, Sid Meier's Pirates is a fantastic port.

The_Spaniard

I just picked it up, no accessories available yet though..

Kenninator

Woo, first post at the PA forums.

Got the new PSP today. My 14 year old Nintendo fanboy past would be ashamed.

But I gotta say, I'm loving Daxter so far. Gonna pick up Jeanne D'arc next.

The only thing I'm waiting for is a case. I'm deathly afraid at this point of scratching the now flawless screen or breaking the entire thing in half somehow. It's so damn light.

Cilla Black

Wish I could find Valkyrie Profile around here. It's the only game out right now that I'm terribly interested in playing.

FanciestWalnut

is there any word when we can expect the other colors? i want a ceramic white one.

Kenninator

FanciestWalnut wrote: »

is there any word when we can expect the other colors? i want a ceramic white one.

October 20th I believe.

Edit: for the star wars white one anyway

Dublo7

syndalis wrote: »

Well, I can now say beyond any shadow of a doubt that I am happy with my purchase of a PSP. Jeanne d'Arc, Daxter, and the GTA games will keep me busy for a long ass time.

Then, FFT will come along and own me outright.

Between the PSP, DS, 360, Wii and PC games I want to play, it will be a miracle if I get any work done.

So, out of curiosity... I have GTA VCS and LCS, Daxter, Jeanne d'Arc, FF2, THP8, and Smackdown vs. Raw 07.

Aside from the OBVIOUS must buys like MGS: Portable Ops, what are the good games for the system I should own?

Puzzle motherfucking Quest.

Yes, I limed myself.