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The army at PAX? WHY!?
Aneurysm
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This is a joke right? You guys can't be seriously inviting the army to PAX.
Do you honestly think that they're going to show up just to promote their game (obvious recruitment tool BTW), and go home? Hell no! They're going to have recruiters covering the halls and the game rooms trying to get people to sign up, adding tension and aggrivation to an event that's supposed to be a fun, sleepless, 3-day weekend of gaming, music, and general dork insanity.
Please reconsider. Take a page out of the book of the PTSA's in Seattle high schools and keep the army out of PAX.
--Aneurysm
Do you honestly think that they're going to show up just to promote their game (obvious recruitment tool BTW), and go home? Hell no! They're going to have recruiters covering the halls and the game rooms trying to get people to sign up, adding tension and aggrivation to an event that's supposed to be a fun, sleepless, 3-day weekend of gaming, music, and general dork insanity.
Please reconsider. Take a page out of the book of the PTSA's in Seattle high schools and keep the army out of PAX.
--Aneurysm
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Seriously dude, chill out.
head for the hilllllllls
then it's all cool. but only if i can drive the tank or rappel from the helicopter or shoot the gun.
Ooh...
They should have them bring the Stryker...
But only if they can use it as a shuttle for attendees from the Meydenbauer to the Doubletree and back.
Because you play videogames with guns in them?
Hard-core gamers are highly prized prospects by all branches, due in no small part to our technological proficiency. I'd be genuinely surprised if the Army didn't send at least one recruiter. Army, Navy and Marine Corps recruiters frequently camp my local Gameworks, where I witnessed the following exchange.
Marine Corps recruiter: "You like anime?"
16-year-old playing Metal Slug: "Uh.. yeah, I guess..."
Master Chief: "We can make sure you're stationed in Okinawa, Japan."
Frustrated 16-year-old playing Metal Slug: "Dude, I'm only 16 years old..."
Corps-whore: "Great! Now's the perfect time to start planning for your future, bro."
Pissed-off 16-year-old, now losing a game of Metal Slug due to the distraction: "Do I have to tell you I'm gay to get you to fuck-off?!"
Ah, surly gamers. But I digress.
As long as any and all Army personnel in attendance refrain from engaging in unsolicited recruiting outside of their display booth, e.g. in the LAN room, console room, ect., I predict a cordial showing... at least until Kato_Arabel makes good on his promise to give one of the soldiers "a cheap shot to the family jewels." Hope I have my camera at the ready for that.
It's obvious that they need to bring two vehicles. A Stryker, aka the rolling coffin, for use as the official convention shuttle, and a Bradley, aka... um.. the other rolling coffin, for expedient foundation pulverization.
Why this would upset anyone is beyond me. It's not like they'll come up to your computer at PAX and steal the mouse untill you agree to enlist.
Nobody has to see their song and dance or join their ranks, but I'm not even an American and I know that not supporting your men in uniform regardless of personally ideology is an ugly notion.
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hey guys
i have an idea
ignore them
Still, I'll probably stick around for a while. My uncle, obsessed with all things that go boom, might want me to ask them a few questions, and my cousin, blessed (cursed?) with dual citizenship, managed to get himself in the Marine Corps so I'll see if they know him. I'll behave, I promise.
-Mike
As long as they don't give me a hard time and try to cram stuff down my throat, I won't give them a hard time.
*grin*
:twisted:
Canadians can join the US Armed Forces.
So you might want to be careful...
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I have no love for the armed forces, but I still have friends that're tank drivers, mechanics, demo. experts, etc., so it's not like I really mind if they're there or what they do. Just say you're not interested if they ask you.
That seems kinda odd... does they offer citzenship to the enlistees?
Make no mistake though, I don't mean this to be a thread in which to rant about my views of the military (I'll save that for the D&D forum) , merely one in which to suggest that letting the army attend PAX should be called into question.
I admit my first post was of a frantic tone, but finding this out just came as a bit of a shock, especially when considering 1) Recruiters are projected to fall far short of their recruitment goals in Washington state, 2) more recruiters are being trained and deployed, 3) the aforementioned tensions at Seattle High Schools and 4) as SnowGhost said:
All I'm doing is reading the local paper regularly and doing the math. There are just too many factors that point toward a potentially bad situation and/or serious bummer on an otherwise fun time.
Now of course I could be wrong. Zig could be quite right that maybe just a few developers would show. It's entirely possible, but currently to my mind it doesn't seem plausible.
If the recruiters show up, I see the possibility of lots of gamers being harangued and annoyed on a constant basis, and what fun is that? Who would want to be bothered with the morbid offer of actually shooting people / getting killed? Not me. The only blood I want is made of pixels. The only people/robots/aliens I want to shoot are made of polygons.
--Aneurysm
P.S.
I put in my vote for Kato to kick an army dude in the cajones, though he may not live to tell the tale...
i hope they have the vr sim there. shooting pistols is fun.
Then it all boils down to age group / personalities of the people who come down. They might be gamers they might not. If they are gamers they might just play games and as small talk ask if you might be interested in the army. If you say no they might ask why. All you have to do is say I’m not interested in enlisting and they will leave you alone. No one has to worry about half way through they slam cages over the doors and then everyone inside has to join the army.
Joining like most things is a matter of free choice. And if they didn’t at least ask one person if they wanted to join then they would not being doing their job which would make them a mockery of the position they hold and the country they are serving.
Given that PAX tends to attract whatever's left over after E3, we'll probably get a couple of Coast Guardsmen jumping out of a station wagon. :twisted:
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There's your mistake. The Times and PI are hardly reliable outlets of unbiased journalism. :roll: Fucking commies.
No offense but this "uproar" you've created is a tad bit amusing. It's like some of you have suffered at the hands of the military in some form or another. Come on, it's not like you were mentally scarred in the killing fields of Somalia or something. You don't even know what their presence at PAX will really be like in the first place.
Definately. Just because I won't enlist doesn't mean I won't wanna talk with the guys. I'll probably look them out just to ask a few questions, things like where they've been stationed, just how (in)accurate some games are for their weaponry, what got them to enlist...that sorta thing.
Just to clarify my position: 69 On one hand we have the "OMFG! Teh Armyz g0ing to kidn4p us!1!!0N3!" hyperbole, and on the other hand we have the eternal jingoistic battle cry; "Fucking Commies!"
Copacetic...
To belay the fears of the "OMFG" lot; should anyone accost you, be it an overzealous recruiter, abusive attendee or horny Nintendo mascot, simply tell a Enforcer.. better yet, tell Khoo. He lives to be burdened with our trivial concerns... in fact, the more trivial the better. If PAX 05 is anything like 04 he'll be easy enough to spot; dressed in a dapper pastel shirt, frantically dashing from room to room whilst he mumbles a steady stream of obscenities into a walkie-talkie. As he skips by, attendees will point and ask the question that's preoccupied man since the beginning of time: "SNAP, is that Portland China?!"
As far as the "Fucking Commies" lobby is concerned; I've yet to meet a recruiter, post Gulf II, that actually enjoys his or her work. They're under an enormous amount of pressure to meet their quotas. It's a fact that a growing minority of recruiters engage in behavior that could only be described as dishonorable. A fact that by no means guarantees that any recruiters in attendance will demonstrate such behavior. Countering hyperbole with hyperbole, e.g. "they died for you!!!", isn't helping, isn't the topic at hand and does nothing to speak to a legitimate point. A legitimate point that may have no place in the PAX forum. Had anyone else made this suggestion we all would have agreed, unanimously, and that would have been the end of it.. what happened to you? You used to be beautiful, man... but now look at you, all helpful.. gracious even. You've sold out, man! You are fucking dead to me!!!
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BTW/off-topic, how did you get jailed this time?
E3 is, at least officially, closed to the public. You can expect both on site recruiters and a disappointing lack of theatrics at PAX, as opposed to the show they put on for the press at E3. If you ask real nice they might rappel from the "smoking" balcony. Hells yeah it's fun! It's also fun to blow things up and jump out of planes! It's a constant struggle to stay the course, professionally, and resist the urge to run off to raise some fiery, fiery hell...
Guess that's the testosterone talking.. or ADD... both, maybe?
And lastly; Kato_Arabel, as your thread got locked before I could speak to your core point, the same disability that excludes you from enlisting prevents you from using a recruitment tool. Don't get me wrong, I feel for your situation. It's obvious that they are breaking the law. What's more, as they've issued a subtitle patch for previous versions of AA, they're aware of their noncompliance with section 508. [apathy]Isn't much that can be done about that...[/apathy]
omfg: we're going to have to like, say "no, i'm not interested" to someone. OHSHI CONFLICT.
FFS, this is not a big deal.
I'm sorry if my post is off-topic at this point (I didn't bother to read any of the other posts), but geewhiz, what a whiney thing to complain about :roll:
i'm too fat for the army
i made sure of it
I'm too anti real life violence
and too old...
yup tooo old