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America! We make bourbon.

CrayonCrayon Sleeps in the wrong bed.TejasRegistered User regular
edited September 2007 in Debate and/or Discourse
If there is one thing that encompasses all social classes, color, and sex-it is most certainly alcohol, and more specifically liquor. From prohibition and speakeasys to legalization and chic martini bars, our country has seen the best and worst of one of the greatest, and oldest, of mans accomplishment here on earth. Alcohol is the lubricant of our system, it imbibes the user with a freedom of conversation, and most certainly gives us all that little bit of "liquid courage" we need to achieve certain things.

Bourbon by all accounts is not entirely American so to speak considering it was Scots and other ethnic classes that brought over their knowledge in distillation-but we most certainly made it our own. We have American blended whisky, Straight Kentucky Bourbon, and the Tennessee Whisky. Bourbon is such an important facet of American history that there are literally hundreds of laws on the books actually discussing what can/can't be done to call it a "Straight", or even a "Kentucky" bourbon.

So take a drink and share with me not only your favorite alcohols, that being both beer and liquor-but also share your recipes for a good cocktail.

I should start off by (if you hadn't noticed) declaring my love for bourbon and almost all forms of it, from the bottom shelf Kentucky Tavern to the top shelf Woodford Reserve and Knob Creek. Honestly I am not a fan of the Tennessee types, but I most certainly won't turn it down.

My two favorite drinks other than neat/on the rocks:

Mint Julep
Mint leaves to taste (usually 4 to 8)
2 tsp water
1 tsp sugar
Muddle ingredients-fill with ice, add 2 1/2 oz of your favorite bourbon. Clean, simple and delightfully tasty.

Whisk(e)y Sour: Easiest to make version
In old fashioned glass add 2 oz whisk(e)y (ideally Woodford for me, but usually Beam since I hate wasting such a beautiful bourbon as Woodford) to ice. Fill with sweet and sour mix. Simple and done.

If you are at all interested in the history of whisk(e)y in general, there are two books that I fully recommend. Encyclopedia of Whisky by Michael Jackson, and The Book of Bourbon by Gary Regan/Mardee Haidin Regan.

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  • Edgler VessEdgler Vess Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Jameson's Irish Whisky here,

    Used to be a Jack Daniel's type of guy (We love cheap rot gut in the south), But I had actually used Jameson's to cook with once and did a some for me some for the receipe type of thing and found it to be superior to JD in pretty much every way. I used to screw around with my Whisky now its just...A glass, some Jameson's and some ice....

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  • InPraisOfBacchusInPraisOfBacchus Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    My favorite alcohol is absinthe. When I can afford to buy a bottle or two, I usually just drink it the classic French way....with sugar and water. Although I DO like

    The Hemingway:
    In a champagne flute combine 1/2 to 1 measure of absinthe. Top with champagne.

    Also, 1 shot of absinthe, 1 shot of vodka, and some redbull to taste is pretty good too.

    Other than that, I brew my own wine......so I always have around 40-60 bottles of wine laying around to drink.

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  • geckahngeckahn Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    knob creek is awesome

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I ratherl ike Old Grandads

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  • JohannenJohannen Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Knob creek is horrible.

    If you put malibu in with milk it tastes like coconut juice (not really my cup of tea but it does).

    The Crack Daddy is quite nice. I didn't have it in the bar that GQ have got it under, and the GQ website was the only place I could find the recipe.

    40ml vodka
    40ml passion fruit juice
    20ml sugar syrup
    20ml Chambord
    Champagne

    Edit: I'm pretty definite that it wasn't made aswell as it says on the website. The guy just stuck it all in a shaker, with ice, slammed it around a bit, then poured it into a glass.

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  • SithDrummerSithDrummer Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I just tried something last night I had been meaning to for awhile. It's called the Godfather - basically, a shot of whiskey and a shot of amaretto. It is divine.

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  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited September 2007
    Johannen wrote: »
    Knob creek is horrible.

    Go back to your port and Pimm's and rotgut gin you limey bastard. You're not good enough for our fine American bourbons.

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  • brandotheninjamasterbrandotheninjamaster Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    My favorite alcohol is absinthe. When I can afford to buy a bottle or two, I usually just drink it the classic French way....with sugar and water. Although I DO like

    The Hemingway:
    In a champagne flute combine 1/2 to 1 measure of absinthe. Top with champagne.

    Also, 1 shot of absinthe, 1 shot of vodka, and some redbull to taste is pretty good too.

    Other than that, I brew my own wine......so I always have around 40-60 bottles of wine laying around to drink.

    O_o holy crap!

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  • darthmixdarthmix Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I like my Johnny Walker Black, straight. And I like gin martinis, ideally Bombay Saphire and two olives.

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  • InPraisOfBacchusInPraisOfBacchus Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    My favorite alcohol is absinthe. When I can afford to buy a bottle or two, I usually just drink it the classic French way....with sugar and water. Although I DO like

    The Hemingway:
    In a champagne flute combine 1/2 to 1 measure of absinthe. Top with champagne.

    Also, 1 shot of absinthe, 1 shot of vodka, and some redbull to taste is pretty good too.

    Other than that, I brew my own wine......so I always have around 40-60 bottles of wine laying around to drink.

    O_o holy crap!

    Yeah....that's the usual response I get when people see my wine. You have to realize, though, you only need 5 gallons of wine to make 20 bottles. Of course my wine collection doesn't even compare to those people with hundreds of old, famous labelled wines in their cellar.

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  • mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I've been drinking (and liking) Scotch lately.

    Copy/paste from my blog:
    I've been trying out various Scotches this year, and this is what I've discovered. I'd be fun to do those fancy-schmancy reviews that is all, "This scotch has a full body with hints of pear and chocolate" or whatever, but I can't really taste any of those flavors.

    Dewar's White Label: This is pretty much trash.

    Johnnie Walker Black: This is good whisky. (though it's blended, not single malt if you care) Axe (I think?) said it was a good price/quality point, and he was right. After other experiences, I can tell that it's not as smooth as some, but I still like this better than other more expensive single malts. (such as the next two)

    Glenfiddich "Special Reserve" 12 year (aka the most expensive stuff you're likely to find in the grocery store): This is alright. Not really good in my opinion, but better than some. I probably wouldn't buy it again. Interestingly, a day or two after I opened the bottle, the scotch went bad or something. (I think I posted about it earlier) It has a bad bite to it now. My brother got a bottle of this as well, and the same thing happened to his as well.

    Glenlivet 18 year: This is pretty good too. I like this better than the Glenfiddich, but not as much as the JW Black. I remember this having a spicy flavor that was interesting and an aftertaste that I didn't much care for.

    Tobermory 10 year: Both my brother and I really liked this one. This was cheaper than most. ($30 or $40 I think) This is smooth and lingers. (I felt like I was breathing smoke after each swallow, which was pretty neat)

    Laphroaig 10 year: Oh man, this one is weird. Laphroaig has a reputation as being the most strongly (peat) flavored scotch, and it is pretty strong. I thought that I probably wouldn't like it too much, and I was correct. This literally tasted like drinking smoke, which was actually really neat, but it was followed by a fishy taste that I didn't like so much. The interesting thing is that I can tell that it's a good-quality scotch, but I just don't like the flavor. Were I to like smoked fish-flavored whisky, this would likely rank up there on the list.

    Macallan cask strength: This is fantastic stuff. My favorite so far. I noticed a little lingering taste, but not as much as the Tobermory. (The cask strength means that the entire bottle came from one cask of whisky, unlike most bottles which are filled from vats that are filled from multiple casks)

    tl;dr: Macallan Cask Strength is my current favorite.

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Can anyone direct me to a website explaining what absinthe tastes like? It's not like you can order it in bars, right? You can have it delivered to your house via Canadian courier but it's illegal to possess it. Or am I thinking of something else?

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  • mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Can anyone direct me to a website explaining what absinthe tastes like? It's not like you can order it in bars, right? You can have it delivered to your house via Canadian courier but it's illegal to possess it. Or am I thinking of something else?

    The stuff I had tasted like bitter licorice. I actually didn't care for it much.

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Did you do it the right way? Straining it thru a sugar cube and all that shit?

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  • CrayonCrayon Sleeps in the wrong bed. TejasRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Can anyone direct me to a website explaining what absinthe tastes like? It's not like you can order it in bars, right? You can have it delivered to your house via Canadian courier but it's illegal to possess it. Or am I thinking of something else?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_%28Absinthe%29

    I think it tastes like pure unfiltered ass-but there is a brand right there that has a low enough content of the grande wormwood that it passes the legal issues in the States. If you can find it, it's about the closest you're going to get to the harder stuff-while staying legal.

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  • mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Did you do it the right way? Straining it thru a sugar cube and all that shit?
    Yes.

    (We may not have done a very good job though. The sugar didn't seem to want to mix in very well)

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  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited September 2007
    It really does taste just like Ouzo or Sambuca, only not as sweet.

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  • mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Irond Will wrote: »
    It really does taste just like Ouzo or Sambuca, only not as sweet.

    Pretty much. I liked the Sambuca I've had better than the Absinthe though.

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  • DulinDulin Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Best drink in the world is a "Red Headed Slut"

    1 oz peach schnapps
    1 oz Jagermeister® herbal liqueur
    cranberry juice

    only way I think I can describe it is like a strong tea in taste, but they are delicious.

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  • TheMarshalTheMarshal Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I've been on a scotch kick lately (and flippy, I totally agree with you on Dewars).

    Other than that, though, here's a drink that kind of came about as a bastard of other drinks:

    1 shot each:
    Vodka
    Kahlua
    Irish Cream
    Amaretto

    Serve over ice

    Makes a delicious dessert drink

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  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    My family has their drinks they like, and they drink nothing else. My father is a Bacardi and Coke guy, my mother is a budweiser girl, my grandfather is a Jack Daniels straight guy, and my grandmother is a gimlet girl. Due to liberal drinking views within my family (and the state of wisconsin) I've been able to sample these drinks when ever I felt like it, but in moderation (sip here, sip there. Never a full drink for myself until I turned 19 as that is my fathers belief in what the drinking age should be [and I agree with him]).

    Due to this, I grew a strong liking of Jack Daniels, but I much prefer Crown Royal now. The taste between them is similar, but CR plays with my taste buds just the way I like it.

    Anyone also enjoy a good fine Brandy as well? We get Korbell nice and cheap here in Wisconsin and it is so god damn good.
    Dulin wrote: »
    Best drink in the world is a "Red Headed Slut"

    1 oz peach schnapps
    1 oz Jagermeister® herbal liqueur
    cranberry juice

    only way I think I can describe it is like a strong tea in taste, but they are delicious.

    Around here its made equal parts Rumpleminze and Chambord.

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  • mastmanmastman Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I drink Scotch and Bourbon. Only single barrel. Not mixed with anything.

    evan williams
    woodford reserve
    single barrel jack
    are the more common ones I get.
    jim beam = gross
    I do not so much enjoy Islay whiskys. smell like terpentine

    scotch. can't remember the names, I've been on bourbon kick lately. scotch was last winter.

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    A friend gave me a bottle of Jamesons for my birthday last year. That is some damn fine whiskey. I keep hearing about Knob Creek from you people, I gotta check me out some of that.

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  • arod_77arod_77 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    Ill' take a Bloody Mary over just about anything--something about that lemon/pepper taste sets off the vodka perfectly

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  • mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I also love me some vodka tonics:

    1-2 shots vodka
    Fill the rest of the (small) glass with tonic water
    Add a slice of lime

    :^:

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  • InPraisOfBacchusInPraisOfBacchus Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Can anyone direct me to a website explaining what absinthe tastes like? It's not like you can order it in bars, right? You can have it delivered to your house via Canadian courier but it's illegal to possess it. Or am I thinking of something else?

    No, no, no. The laws make it illegal to SELL in the US. You can possess it, and consume it. You'll have to order it from overseas though. May I recommend: http://www.absintheonline.com/acatalog/Jade.html

    The Edouard 72 is the best IMO (too bad it's sold out right now)....but I haven't tried the Nouvelle-Orléans, and I hear it's very good.

    Absinthe tastes like black-licorice....or anise. They're very similar flavors. Some people have compared it to Jager Meister. I don't like Jager though....

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  • InPraisOfBacchusInPraisOfBacchus Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Also, that "Lucid" absinthe is made by the same man who made the "Jade" absinthes I mentioned. Also, it DOES, contain thujone. It just has to have less than 10mg/liter (some people say it's 1mg/liter....I'll have to verify) to be considered "thujone free" by the gov't. You'll notice that 10mg/liter is the exact limit that the European Union has imposed on their absinthes as well.

    I'm gonna buy a bottle, and I'll report to you guys how it is. :D

    **edit** No...the legal limit for thujone is still 1mg/liter.....but the margin of error allowed is up to 10mg/liter. LOL

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  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I hit upon a simple mixture over the weekend at a co-worker's birthday bash - the gimlet. A shot of gin and a dash of lime juice/cordial. It's apparently supposed to be drunk straight, but it was a warm night so I added ice. The sharpness of the lime complemented the warm smell of the gin, and it lasted a while due to the strong taste - there was far less urge to knock it down in one.

    After some experimentation I found Gordon's gin to be preferable to Bombay Sapphire, despite a Bombay & tonic taking lime rather than the usual lemon. The Tanqueray gin was the best, but it's more expensive than Gordon's.

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  • forbis316forbis316 Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I like bourbon. Wild Turkey is my go to brand. You can get it anywhere and it is awesome. Eventually I hope to have a well stocked bourbon bar. Bourbon rocks. I typically drink it on the rocks.

    One of the few cocktails I enjoy drinking is a well prepared Old Fashioned.

    Old Fashioned
    One cube of sugar in an old fashioned glass. Add enough water to dissolve the sugar. Two to three dashes of bitters. One measure of whiskey. Add a piece of ice and a twist of lemon peel. Divine.

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  • CrayonCrayon Sleeps in the wrong bed. TejasRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    forbis316 wrote: »
    I like bourbon. Wild Turkey is my go to brand. You can get it anywhere and it is awesome. Eventually I hope to have a well stocked bourbon bar. Bourbon rocks. I typically drink it on the rocks.

    One of the few cocktails I enjoy drinking is a well prepared Old Fashioned.

    Old Fashioned
    One cube of sugar in an old fashioned glass. Add enough water to dissolve the sugar. Two to three dashes of bitters. One measure of whiskey. Add a piece of ice and a twist of lemon peel. Divine.

    I really prefer the "new" old fashioned-the fruit just lends itself to the bourbon and really highlights the characteristics of the bourbon. The only extra step is muddling in a slice of orange with the sugar/water and bitters. I like an old-fashioned, but if I have oranges available I will gladly take the extra step.

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  • MalaysianShrewMalaysianShrew Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I <3 Maker's Mark. Also, Alton Brown decided to go to their distillery for his bourbon show. So that makes two awesome people who like it.

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  • CrayonCrayon Sleeps in the wrong bed. TejasRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I <3 Maker's Mark. Also, Alton Brown decided to go to their distillery for his bourbon show. So that makes two awesome people who like it.

    Do you happen to know which episode that was? As in what season and number? I thought I had seen pretty much all episodes, but I suppose not.

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