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Legal issues and MMOs

MedopineMedopine __BANNED USERS regular
edited September 2007 in MMO Extravaganza
So I know these things have come up in various other threads from time to time, but I think it would be fun to have a thread that sort of chronicles what's gone down as far as MMO's and legal problems that arise around them.

I don't personally have a ton of links to information, but I have a few discussion points to go with and I suppose people can hunt down any links or news articles that they remember or see in the future and post them here.

Issues:
  • Do users have a property interest into virtual items or currency that they've accrued through the game?
  • What about selling your entire account to another party?
  • The legailty of sales of virutal currency and how they effect the game
  • EULAs - would they really stand up in court?
  • Harassment/abuse between game users
  • Hacking and restoration of characters - what rights do users have?


I'll be back later with some more links if I can dig some up. These are kinda old.

Judge rules against Second Life TOS

Summary of an old case against Mythic where a company argued that selling in game items did not infringe Mythic's copyrights. Case was dismissed on procedural grounds (plaintiff apparently forgot to show up for hearings!). Link 2

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    Simjanes2kSimjanes2k Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    People who buy gold and powerleveled characters support companies who spam the crap out of me in-game, causing a weekly aneurism and stroke that can only be countered by phat purple lewtz.

    For that reason alone, I'd like to see them all shot dead in the street.

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    Little JimLittle Jim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    two questions

    is it okay to buy virtual hookers?

    is rorus single?

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    SegSeg Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I wish I had a link of some sort, but it was only a couple of years ago that Marvel filed a complaint against Cryptic and NCSoft in regards to players copying Marvel characters ingame.

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    BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Seg wrote: »
    I wish I had a link of some sort, but it was only a couple of years ago that Marvel filed a complaint against Cryptic and NCSoft in regards to players copying Marvel characters ingame.

    ?

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    JJJJ DailyStormer Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Simjanes2k wrote: »
    People who buy gold and powerleveled characters support companies who spam the crap out of me in-game, causing a weekly aneurism and stroke that can only be countered by phat purple lewtz.

    For that reason alone, I'd like to see them all shot dead in the street.
    I'm down with this.

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    ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Seg wrote: »
    I wish I had a link of some sort, but it was only a couple of years ago that Marvel filed a complaint against Cryptic and NCSoft in regards to players copying Marvel characters ingame.

    And apparently Marvel decided they were copying their characters so well, they hired Cryptic to make their MMO.

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    HarshLanguageHarshLanguage Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Barrakketh wrote: »
    Seg wrote: »
    I wish I had a link of some sort, but it was only a couple of years ago that Marvel filed a complaint against Cryptic and NCSoft in regards to players copying Marvel characters ingame.

    ?

    That's the one. Of course, it turned out that Marvel itself had created at least some of the "infringing" characters that it featured in its suit, not regular CoH players. And for that and other reasons, the case was settled quietly, and Cryptic and Marvel are buds now working on MUO. But Cryptic polices CoH/V very tightly for other copyright infringing characters, which is a good standard to set.

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    OptyOpty Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I know Blizzard sued Peons4Hire at about the same time they put in the Spam Filter, but I'm late for bed and can't be bothered to find a link.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2007
    Second Life is a different animal, since you can buy shit on there for cash prizes anyway.

    Let's take a game like WoW, where it is outlined clearly that the fee you are paying is to rent the property of Blizzard. Your files are not stored on your own computer, Blizzard may delete anything from your inventory and not reimburse you (I do believe this happened to Doc, albeit accidentally).

    But, as far as I am aware, the EULA of MMOs has rarely been challenged.

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    Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I generally think that shrinkwrap EULAs wouldn't hold up if they were seriously tested on fair use grounds, but as far as property in MMOs they probably would.

    An MMO company is going to say, look, you pay us to play in our playground. That means you play by our rules. Which is the correct argument, I think. Second Life is sort of an exception, because part of their marketing is the idea that players can expect a return on their labor in terms of real money. Be curious to see how that one would shake out, if it were ever seriously considered via lawsuit.

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