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Worms Open Warfare 2, has anyone else bought this?

elkataselkatas Registered User regular
edited September 2007 in Games and Technology
I bought this game today for DS, and after hours play, I'm glad to say that works surprisingly well. You shoot your weapon with B, jump with A, X reveals the equipment list, and by holding L or R you can scroll map with D-pad or stylus. By pressing start you can open map to the upper screen. Maybe I'm missing something, but I was surprised to notice that you can't scroll map with stylus on normal mode.This isn't real problem in my book, because controls have been given some serious thought, and mapped well to DS's layout.

AI is relatively good, but it does think in some rare cases for long time (around 10-15 seconds) before doing its move. It has been so long since I played Worms for last time, but I think that the AI is better than it was on Worms 2, and doesn't do blatantly stupid moves.

In addition of having quick play, game features local and online multiplayer, tutorials, puzzle mode, some minigames that I haven't tried yet, and campaign mode where you complete missions to gain credits. I don't really understand the idea behind having seperate puzzle and campaign mode, because both work practically in same way (i.e. you get progressively harder challenges).

What really surprised me was how much game gives you freedom to customize various things. You can create yourself new teams, draw banners, select your team's sound bank*, draw new battle maps using stylus, select what weapons will be used on match, save your settings into presets, and so on. Additional soundbanks, graphics and levels can be bought from the store with credits you have gained from the campaign mode. I haven't tried online yet, because DS doesn't want to work with my router.

My only gripes about the game so far are that some game's graphics are little fuzzy, and that it is sometimes little hard to read text. Furthermore, I don't really like idea of forcing the player to play campaign mode just to unlock stuff.

* There is around 15 sound banks, which mostly feature different languages. There is also few old fan favorites, like scottish accent.

Hypnotically inclined.
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  • HomerHomer Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I got this game just last night. I only played it for an hour or so, but I'm taking a long trip tomorrow and I'm sure I'll get a lot of play time in on it then. So far I like it a lot though.

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Goddamnit, I forgot this was coming out. I don't really have the money to spend on it, but there it goes anyways.

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  • AnakinOUAnakinOU Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Yeah, it's an awesome game.

    And I think you can (pseudo-)scroll the map with the stylus in default control mode...just tap where you want the camera to center.

    And you don't HAVE to do campaign mode to unlock stuff. The puzzle mode gives you credits, as do the minigames (whatever they call them..."laboratory mode" or something). But the campaign mode is fun, anyway. Once you get past the first few easy tutorial type campaign missions, they're essentially you vs. the PC, with specific mission setups. And a "boss" every 5 levels.

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  • schmadsschmads Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I'm too lazy to go check reviews and whatnot, but one "bad" problem with the last one was that there was no Nintendo WiFi or whatever it's called. In a game that lusts for online play, there wasn't any. How about now?

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    schmads wrote: »
    I'm too lazy to go check reviews and whatnot, but one "bad" problem with the last one was that there was no Nintendo WiFi or whatever it's called. In a game that lusts for online play, there wasn't any. How about now?

    The OP states that there is, so I'm gonna go with "yes".

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  • SnorkSnork word Jamaica Plain, MARegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I guess I'm going to have to buy this then.

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  • schmadsschmads Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Darmak wrote: »
    schmads wrote: »
    I'm too lazy to go check reviews and whatnot, but one "bad" problem with the last one was that there was no Nintendo WiFi or whatever it's called. In a game that lusts for online play, there wasn't any. How about now?

    The OP states that there is, so I'm gonna go with "yes".

    Shit. I apologize. Apparently I have some reading comprehension issues :)

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  • NorayNoray Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Worms is all about the multiplayer. I can't connect my DS to the internet, so that's a no-purchase for me.

    Also, I got a fully featured Worms on the 360 for like a fourth of the price of this. So yeah.

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  • BroncbusterBroncbuster Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Noray wrote: »
    Worms is all about the multiplayer. I can't connect my DS to the internet, so that's a no-purchase for me.

    Also, I got a fully featured Worms on the 360 for like a fourth of the price of this. So yeah.

    The single player is actually pretty good compared to the 360 version (which had next to none). And way more weapons. I wouldn't sign it off yet. Also, if you get your DS in a radius of someone else who has it, they can Zap you a demo that you can play until you restart your DS (I think that is the span). Pretty cool feature.

    Also, game on thread: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=35017

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  • KingMooKingMoo Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    is the DS and 360 versions of worms both in 3D? Because I'm waiting for a 2D worms before I get back into that good action

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Armageddon was the best Worms game.

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  • GallantRoweGallantRowe Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I bought this game for my DS last night and I am loving it. Theres so much to do in single player. The flag editing is great like Mario Kart's and Animal Crossing's. The controls are spot on and I am really hoping to VS some people in single cart soon :). If you are a worms fan, this is a great buy.

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Wait, so there's a ton more weapons compared to the 360 version? If so...bought'd.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I plan on getting it...it's been getting rave "word of mouth" reviews. I haven't read any print or web reviews yet.

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  • BroncbusterBroncbuster Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Wait, so there's a ton more weapons compared to the 360 version? If so...bought'd.

    Yes, it's more like Armaggeddon, the 360 version had the least amount of weapons, more comparable to the first version of worms for PSOne.

    And it is a 2D game, none of the 3D garbage.

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  • schmadsschmads Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    KingMoo wrote: »
    is the DS and 360 versions of worms both in 3D? Because I'm waiting for a 2D worms before I get back into that good action

    The DS and 360 (and PSP) versions are all 2D. These are the Worms that you are looking for.

    From the other Worms thread, from what Squirminator said, it sounds like the DS version is the best, with the best physics and best weapons variety.

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  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    schmads wrote: »
    KingMoo wrote: »
    is the DS and 360 versions of worms both in 3D? Because I'm waiting for a 2D worms before I get back into that good action

    The DS and 360 (and PSP) versions are all 2D. These are the Worms that you are looking for.

    From the other Worms thread, from what Squirminator said, it sounds like the DS version is the best, with the best physics and best weapons variety.

    another 2D one is coming to wii, saw it on IGN yesterday.

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Xagarath wrote: »
    Armageddon was the best Worms game.

    I think World Party was better. It had everything Armaggedon had and a little more.

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  • minigunwielderminigunwielder __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    TelMarine wrote: »
    schmads wrote: »
    KingMoo wrote: »
    is the DS and 360 versions of worms both in 3D? Because I'm waiting for a 2D worms before I get back into that good action

    The DS and 360 (and PSP) versions are all 2D. These are the Worms that you are looking for.

    From the other Worms thread, from what Squirminator said, it sounds like the DS version is the best, with the best physics and best weapons variety.

    another 2D one is coming to wii, saw it on IGN yesterday.


    So the rumors are true, the DS will be used as a map making tool for a Wii version of 2D worms with online!

    And we could DL maps off of Nintendo's online service.

    I knew that Worms would be saved by Nintendo before Team17 and the publisher ran it into the ground!

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Wait, so there's a ton more weapons compared to the 360 version? If so...bought'd.

    Yes, it's more like Armaggeddon, the 360 version had the least amount of weapons, more comparable to the first version of worms for PSOne.

    And it is a 2D game, none of the 3D garbage.

    In fact, it actually has unique weapons, like sentry guns, lightning bolts, and the Buffalo of Lies (from the description online it's like a mad cow except that it bounces back after exploding instead of being released multiple times). I think this is the first time they've added weapons since Armageddon.

    Do cluster bombs still suck? I'd like them to fix that at some point, but I suppose it's a Worms tradition now.

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    jothki wrote: »
    Do cluster bombs still suck? I'd like them to fix that at some point, but I suppose it's a Worms tradition now.

    Umm... If you knew how to place clusterbomb, it was guaranteed insta kill in Worms 2 and its sequels. This trick doesn't work in Open Warfare anymore.

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  • eelektrikeelektrik Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Drez wrote: »
    I plan on getting it...it's been getting rave "word of mouth" reviews. I haven't read any print or web reviews yet.

    Apparently so far its got 8.7 from IGN, 9/10 from 1Up, 4.75/5 from GamePro, A- from UndergroundOnline, and a 60/100 from Games Master UK which Ive never heard of... I guess its a magazine since theres no link to see what their complaints were, but all the other reviews are great, especially compared to the scores from the first Worms on DS.

    Damnit, I'm low on cash, but a good online Worms on DS is so fucking tempting.

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  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The game is fuck-awesome.

    The only bad thing about it is when you're doing single cart multiplay, the systems become unsynced very easily. Which sucks balls.

    Yes it's online.

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  • WoodroezWoodroez Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    It's really nice to hear they've actually added stuff this time around. If I can convince at least one of my friends to get this, it's definitely a purchase...one of them actually has wireless internet now, so hopefully I can see some of you folks on the battlefield.

    And yes, Armageddon was awesome. Never could unlock the bow on my n64 version though. D:

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  • AtheraalAtheraal Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Supposedly this one has the physics from Armageddon as well, if that hasn't been said yet. This makes me happy. I'll be buying this as soon as I get back home. Then I'll see to getting my Nintendo WiFi dongle working. Then... I feast.

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  • VeegeezeeVeegeezee Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    this game pleases me immensely.

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  • WoodroezWoodroez Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    So, after thinking about Armageddon for a little while today, and all the comparisons this game is getting with it, I broke pretty quickly. This game is now officially reserved. I'm a weak chopper. No regrets though...it's going to be strange picking up a fresh version of a game I've basically played to death long ago and having it still feel really, really fresh.

    EDIT: So, those of you that have it, just where are you? I'm in the states, and I reserved it at a Game Crazy, since they said it got 'pushed back' to the 18th.

    EDITx2: Looks like I should have went to...well, any other store in the world and gotten this. Oh well, I happen to like that shop otherwise and I can now clean up my backlog a bit. Biased rationalization ftw!

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  • StonecutterStonecutter Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Would someone mind posting the full weapons list?

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  • TigTig Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    If this game has 1) single-cart download multiplayer, and 2) hand-around multiplayer, it can consider itself purchased.

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Tig wrote: »
    If this game has 1) single-cart download multiplayer, and 2) hand-around multiplayer, it can consider itself purchased.

    Single cart, yes, but no hot-seat, which was incredibly surprising.

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  • TigTig Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    No hot-seat in a turn based game. What the fuck is wrong with them.

    Ah well, I'll probably get it anyway. The new weapons sound too cool to resist

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  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Tig wrote: »
    No hot-seat in a turn based game. What the fuck is wrong with them.

    I know precisely one other person with a DS, and I don't have a compatible wireless link anywhere near me at uni - that seriously sucks. I love playing against myself just to try out new tactics without the computer AI getting in the way.

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  • Lightning Shield!Lightning Shield! Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I've been playing the PSP demo, and it's brilliant. Massive return to form after the dire first one.

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Hey... guys at NTSC-UK say that you actually can do hotseat. You just need to choose custom game instead of multiplayer, and choose two humans teams. :)

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  • TigTig Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    elkatas wrote: »
    Hey... guys at NTSC-UK say that you actually can do hotseat. You just need to choose custom game instead of multiplayer, and choose two humans teams. :)

    Aha, excellent! Just ordered the game :D

    And :^: fellow ntsc-uk'er :P

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    elkatas wrote: »
    Hey... guys at NTSC-UK say that you actually can do hotseat. You just need to choose custom game instead of multiplayer, and choose two humans teams. :)

    Well I'll be jivvered. :P

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  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    elkatas wrote: »
    Tig wrote: »
    If this game has 1) single-cart download multiplayer, and 2) hand-around multiplayer, it can consider itself purchased.

    Single cart, yes, but no hot-seat, which was incredibly surprising.

    Single cart multiplayer sucks.

    3 out of the 4 times I've tried playing with my girlfriend the game became unsynced, which I think is a pretty serious problem.

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  • InfestedGnomeInfestedGnome Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    This looks like a tempting title to pick up

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  • AtheraalAtheraal Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Wait, they actually did put in hotseat as well?

    ...excuse me, I think I have something in my eye...

    There should really be a 'hallelujah' emote on this forum..

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  • MugenmidgetMugenmidget Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Armageddon was the best Worms game.
    And yes, Armageddon was awesome.
    I agree with this line of thinking, but it really only beats out World Party on the PC because it runs a lot better on my XP computer after applying the beta patch (plus you get Direct IP as a multiplayer option so games are easier to host).

    Open Warfare 2 is still really awesome for what it is, after struggling with those GBA games (although World Party GBA was okay) and the first Open Warfare, it's nice to have a really kick ass portable version.
    elkatas wrote: »
    jothki wrote: »
    Do cluster bombs still suck? I'd like them to fix that at some point, but I suppose it's a Worms tradition now.

    Umm... If you knew how to place clusterbomb, it was guaranteed insta kill in Worms 2 and its sequels. This trick doesn't work in Open Warfare anymore.

    They patched this too with the new beta releases in Armageddon, it seems, because I can't pull it off at all. I knew that an earlier patch decreased the frequency if it happening, but I didn't see it happen in my cluster bomb test run just now.
    YodaTuna wrote:
    The only bad thing about it is when you're doing single cart multiplay, the systems become unsynced very easily. Which sucks balls.
    This is very true, but what's funny is that Armageddon is the same way inherently (even over LAN). So in one sense it's familiar to me, but since people are saying that multi-cart doesn't do this it's kind of disappointing and doesn't make much sense. But wait a second...
    YodaTuna wrote: »
    elkatas wrote: »
    Tig wrote: »
    If this game has 1) single-cart download multiplayer, and 2) hand-around multiplayer, it can consider itself purchased.

    Single cart, yes, but no hot-seat, which was incredibly surprising.

    Single cart multiplayer sucks.

    3 out of the 4 times I've tried playing with my girlfriend the game became unsynced, which I think is a pretty serious problem.
    What kind of issues do you run into when your games are out of sync? The only real problem we had with it was I'd see my friend's reaction to his triumph/utter stupidity before it was represented on my screen. Is there really anything beyond that? Because like I said that syncing issue has been part of Worms for a while (although again it's apparently non-existent in multi-cart which is frustrating).
    Atheraal wrote:
    Supposedly this one has the physics from Armageddon as well, if that hasn't been said yet. This makes me happy.
    It was similar enough for me, a lot easier to play than World Party was on GBA (which should have had a much better representation of physics).

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