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  • metaghostmetaghost An intriguing odor A delicate touchRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I can't really stomach listening to very much of those tracks you posted, but what exactly isn't that you're unsure of how to do?

    Is it the rhythm? Structure? Insight into how the sounds are filtered/effected?

    The genres that you seem interested in aren't especially complicated when it comes to melodic development and harmonic interaction, mostly concerning them selves with driving rhythms that make people zone out and dance.
    So I imagine you aren't looking for help with the more difficult aspects of western music theory.

    But saying you can't grasp the "advanced stuff" isn't very specific.
    Maybe refer to a specific time duration within a track and a description of a sound you hope to emulate.

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  • Carry The ZeroCarry The Zero Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I've been using FLStudio since the FruityLoops days. Once you get decent enough at using it (and have a little musical understanding) you can have a real lot of fun just dicking around making simple things, or you can take some time and make a complicated track with the Piano Roll (I'm still learning new things about it).

    I'm sure if you've been looking for FLStudio info or help you've already stumbled upon The Flipside Forums, but if you haven't, check it out.

    Also my favorite set of VST instruments (all free): Tweakbench, especially check out triforce and peach.

    Oh yeah, an insane VST Effect (also free) that is great for messing around with is Glitch. I'm not really in to the kind of music where it would be useful, but that doesn't stop me from randomly sticking it on a track sometimes.

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  • KaseiusKaseius Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    metaghost wrote: »
    I can't really stomach listening to very much of those tracks you posted, but what exactly isn't that you're unsure of how to do?

    Is it the rhythm? Structure? Insight into how the sounds are filtered/effected?

    Just, the absolute most basic rhythm to it. Psytrance is sort of like a kick bass bass bass kick bass bass bass but I can never make it right.

    The other is just more of.. I dunno how to explain it.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    That really comes down to simply imitating what you're hearing. If it doesn't sound right, you gotta move stuff around or fiddle with your sounds.

    It's really one of the problems I find with getting people into electronic music. There's a lot of depth to the signal path and simply getting good sounds, and a lot of it comes down to experimentation or using good presets (and then being able to experiment with presets to get them to sound right). That's a far cry from most instruments, where the sound is a little more up-front. As in, with a real instrument, you can typically determine whether your instrument is just wrong (like using an electric to sound like an acoustic guitar) or if you just need to practice technique more.

    With electronic, you can have the rhythm down, structure down, all that, and still have shit because the sounds you're using just don't work.

    The basic rhythm to the first song is incredibly basic, but here's what it would look like on an 8 bar pattern:

    K — — — B — B —

    Where K is kick and B is a short bass note.

    And the hats at the beginning of that song are just on 16th notes and noodly, but the standard hardcore hat is
    simply opposite the kick, so at the same spot as the first B above.

    Part of the problem you're probably having is that psytrance and hardcore are at very high tempos, so you can't easily listen and dissect what's going on, even though it's not complex. You might have better luck getting started if you try to recreate some hip hop beats ;D Working at 80 bpm is MUCH easier than 180 when you're just learning.

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  • KaseiusKaseius Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    EggyToast wrote: »
    The basic rhythm to the first song is incredibly basic, but here's what it would look like on an 8 bar pattern:

    K — — — B — B —

    Where K is kick and B is a short bass note.

    And the hats at the beginning of that song are just on 16th notes and noodly, but the standard hardcore hat is
    simply opposite the kick, so at the same spot as the first B above.

    THANK YOU

    As soon as I put this in and hit play, I knew that is exactly what I was trying for; thank you Eggy. Now to play with it and try to learn some other stuff.

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