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[Beta ON] Team Fortress 2: Hey, that medic has the same name as m-

StericaSterica YesRegistered User, Moderator mod
edited September 2007 in Games and Technology
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This is Team Fortress 2. It's a sequel of some old game nobody ever played.

Anyways, this is team-based first-person shooter goodness. Using an awesome graphics style that is described as "a 60s spy movie meets The Incredibles", TF2 is just oozing with flavor and style. Pick from one of nine classes and proceed to lay waste to the enemy. No "Army of One" stuff here: work together or fail.

Release Date: October 9th
Price: $49.99 (Orange Box)
Bonus: Comes with Half Life 2: Episode 2 and Portal!

Minimum:
1.7 GHz Pentium 4
512 MB system RAM
DirectX 8 compatible video card

Recommended:
Processor: Intel Pentium 4 3000 MHz
DirectX 9 compatible graphics card
1024MB

How about that Beta

Head to Steam and pre-purchase the Orange box now and you can join in on beta! To further sweeten the deal, you also get 10% (five dollars of the American flavor) off the price. Glee!

Only the Orange Box is available. As of this time, there is no way to get a "Black Box" that only has TF2, Portals and Episode 2. You can, however, send your extra copy of HL2 and Ep1 to friends if you so wish.

If you wish to join us for gamings on, get an invite to the PA Group on Steam Community by either posting you user page here or joining the chat.

Bombardier's server is 209.159.189.12:27015 and the password is our normal one.
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The Classes

Classes are grouped into three catergories.

Defense
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Meet the Heavy

Role: Suppressive fire, meat shield.
Weapons: Chain gun, Shotgun, Ham-like Fists
Hit Points: 300

Special: Can right click to start up his gun. This allows for instant firing without slowdown. If he presses no keys (or doesn't use the Chain Gun), his speed increases.

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Meet the Engineer

Role: Base defense
Weapons: Shotgun, Pistol, Wrench
Hit Points: 125

Special: Can construct a variety of machines, including sentries guns and ammo dispensers. Can upgrade sentries and repair machines with the wrench. Has a teleporter which can allow for instant travel across the map.

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Intro Video Coming Soon

Role: Clearing grouped enemies, taking down sentries, protecting objectives
Weapons: Grenade Launcher, Sticky Bomb Launcher, Beer Bottle
Hit Points: 175

Support
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Intro Video Coming Soon

Role: Healing
Weapons: Healing Gun, Needle Gun, Bonesaw
Hit Points: 150

Special: Healing gun can heal an ally pass their normal maximum hit points, to a limit of 150% their normal hit points. If the medic heals long enough, a special "Ãœbercharge" becomes available that makes the Medic and the person being healed invincible for 10 seconds. Cannot make flag carriers invulnerable.

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Intro Video Coming Soon

Role: Infiltration, Assassination
Weapons: Knife, Pistol, Electro-Sapper, Spy Kit
Hit Points: 125

Special: Can disguise self as a member of the opposing team and as any class (even a Spy). Can cloak in 10 seconds intervals. If done from behind, the knife is an instant kill. In addition to being undetected by sentries while disguised, has an electro-sapper that shuts down enemy machines until an engineer puts it back online. But the sapper will quickly destroy the machine is not fixed. While disguised, the spy does not show signs of taking damage from enemies, making "spy checks" worthless unless they kill the spy.

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Intro Video Coming Soon

Role: Head-shotting
Weapons: Sniper Rifle, Submachine Gun, Machete
Hit Points: 125

Offense
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Intro Video Coming Soon

Role: Reconnaissance, Grabber of Enemy Things, Takes Control Points Faster
Weapons: Shotgun, Pistol, Steel Bat
Hit Points: 125

Special: Counts as two people when taking control points. Can double jump and is faster than other classes.

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Meet the Soldier

Role: Basic Attack Class
Weapons: Rocket Launcher, Shotgun, Shovel
Hit Points: 200

Special: Can "Rocket Jump" by aiming rocket launcher at feet.

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Intro Video Coming Soon

Role: Close Quarters Combat
Weapons: Flamethrower, Shotgun, Fire Axe
Hit Points: 175

Special: Can set people on fire, which obstructs their vision and slowly deals damage to them over time. Only medkits, the medic's healing beam or water can put the fire out.

Other Cool Stuff
Look on the Bright Side: If your "round" is a personal best (most damage inflicted, kills made, time alive), the game will let you know when you die.

Capture the Moment: Kodak invites you take a screen of your murderer.

Animation!: You can do a variety of animations. They depend on your class and current weapon. The Medic, for example, will play his Bonesaw like a violin. You temporarily leave first-person view when this is done.

Criticals: "Players are able to occasionally critically hit the enemy for approximately three times damage, indicated by a text icon that pops up over an enemy's head when the event occurs. Valve told us criticals are somehow related to player momentum, so if you're doing well, expect to see them more frequently. We noticed you could actually see a Demoman's critical grenades, as they'd sparkle white when fired. The same thing occurred for a Soldier's rockets."

Other Games: Hey, don't forget about Portal and that newfangled Half-Life 2 episode.

Videos!

Multiple Videos of the Pyro, Soldier, Heavy, Spy, Engineer
YouTube of Trailer #2
Some class details and see some of the special "taunt" animations.
Brief tour of each map.

Taunts!

All the sound files for taunts are here.

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  • InzignaInzigna Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    AH! FIRST POAST!

    I'm definitely excited.

    EDIT: Fuck, I just realised it might not be available in my region.

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  • thorgotthorgot there is special providence in the fall of a sparrowRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Just a few more daaaays.

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  • One Thousand CablesOne Thousand Cables An absence of thought Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    So has Valve or whoever said whether they are going to finish the character videos?

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  • FallFall Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    After the unimpressive Quake Wars Demo and possible UT3 delays, some Team Fortress will really hit the spot.

    Still, with most classes without grenades and no expanded abilities to compensate, I'm expecting a game with far less dynamic combat than the original two versions, and classes that won't be much fun in a public server environment.

    Fall on
  • HewnHewn Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The original Team Fortress ruined my high school chemistry grade.

    I can't wait for this one to ruin something new for me. So awesome.

    Hewn on
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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Think I should even bother with a computer that's a bit below recommended/optimal specs? (Athlon XP 2600+ (1.91ghz, Radeon 9600, 1gb memory @ 333mhz)

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I thought the Pyro was defense? The Heavy isn't really a defense class either when you consider the medic immunity combo.

    And your image links don't work or are horrendously slow.

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    If you have it preloaded, http://nemesis.thewavelength.net/index.php?p=26

    Gcf scape

    team fortress 2 content.gcf in your steam apps folder, somewhere. you can listen to all the sounds.

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  • Randall_FlaggRandall_Flagg Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Isn't the pyro, like, a defensive character

    I mean, he was definitely more of a support class in tfc

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I would think the Demoman is offense too, since grenades are more useful for breaking a fortification than keeping people out of a base.

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Yeah, these roles are stupid. A pyro is defensive in terms of him ambushing people.

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Pyros are/were defensive in that they were one of the best counters to scouts, who are definitely not defensive.

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  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Whats the max people per game/team?

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  • Darth AardvarkDarth Aardvark Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Have they confirmed split-screen yet?

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  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Have they confirmed split-screen yet?

    Sweet googli moogli they better have at least 2 player split

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  • ecchiecchi Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Pyros are/were defensive in that they were one of the best counters to scouts, who are definitely not defensive.
    Are you serious? A hwg or soldier is a way better choice against a scout. The soldier's rockets have much better stopping power and the hwg can just plain tear him apart. Nail grenades and mirvs are also way better scout-counters than the worthless flame grenades. The only thing pyro has going for it is speed, but medic has that plus concs and a real shotgun -- but I'd still rather have a pyro on my offense to blind hwgs than on my defense trying to stop scouts.

    In TF2 they do seem to be more defensive, and on command-point maps the whole offense/defense thing is sort of irrelevant anyway.

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Stuff not mentioned in the OP:

    * A freeze-cam will show the player that killed you,[7][6]
    * Persistent stats tell you how you are improving[7]
    * Ability to spectate a game[7]
    * Critical hit shots are chosen based on a player's momentum on the scoreboard, causing rockets and grenades to show as a visible white sparkle. It is important to note the sparkle means that a shot is critical, not the hit, so a player could miss a critical hit if he misses the shot. When you hit someone with a critical hit, a text icon appears over their head.[8]
    * Spawn rooms feature an equipment closet to restock ammo and items while standing in front of it (no bags as in previous versions)[8]
    * Each class has different health amounts which determine their survivability (it is not simply a percentage)[8]
    * You can pickup enemy weapons that replenish the engineer's "metal" count, which is the engineers building materials (may be like bags in older versions)[8]
    * In Capture the Flag mode, flags take 30 seconds to return to base after being touched.[9]
    * In Control Point Match mode, if you partially capture a point and die, it takes time to reset, giving your team time to get someone else there to finish the capture.[9]


    (direct from Wiki)

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I don't really care how much I have to turn down the settings to get it run decently, but I hope I can get it to run at my laptop's native resolution (1280x800).

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  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    ...it doesnt have splitscreen does it? WHY????? FUCK.

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  • MumblyfishMumblyfish Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Oh, come now. Why would Team Fortress have splitscreen gameplay? There are no bots, and playing a team-based game with huge maps against one person has somewhat limited Fun Potential.

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  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    UGH, I dunno, so me and my mate can play online? Alla Halo 3, WHY IS THIS A QUESTIONABLE THING? Its like Live replaces splitscreen nowadays. Its ridiculous, the most fun I have with multiplayer is with a freind in the same room. Am I the only one who expects splitscreen in multiplayer games?

    I mean, where did this come from? This phenomenon? Is it because of points? People sabotaging? THATS BULLSHIT. There are so many simple fixes for that it makes my head spin (only on same team play, server-specific, votekicks). Im not a massive halo fan, but at least when freinds come over we wont have to take FUCKING TURNS for Halo 3 multiplayer. I mean did I buy these extra controllers for any reason?

    This is one of those organic bullshit trends that becomes the norm overnight, and everyone looks at me like im crazy for complaining.

    For a game thats entirelty multiplayer, lacking this component just frustrates me.

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I can't even think of any PC games that feature splitscreen multiplayer...

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I can't even think of any PC games that feature splitscreen multiplayer...

    I think this is your problem, Prohass. It's mostly PC gamers in this thread and they're in a PC frame of mind, whereas your coming from a console frame of mind. That's why splitscreen is "questionable thing."

    I dunno if the live version will have splitscreen.

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  • MumblyfishMumblyfish Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Truthfully, I don't sympathise because I can't imagine playing a game like Team Fortress 2 with both split-screen and shared audio and enjoying it. The players' range of vision is cut down remarkably and it is likely that players will suffer from not being able to pick up crucial audio such as footsteps. Split-screen also brings in a multitude of balance issues. For one, assuming two players on one console, both players have to always be on the same team. If there were support for four players, that's four people on one connection who can't be switched to different teams. Though I maintain that those players on split-screen are overall at a disadvantage, they do get the advantage of being able to view different points on the map at the same time.

    This may be a feature sported by Halo 3, but that does not make it a good one. Especially not for a game that is by nature competitive (even amongst friends and on public servers; everyone wants to win) and dependant on quickly processing visual and aural information.

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  • Xenocide GeekXenocide Geek Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    man this game looks... terrible.

    gameplay aside, the graphical style they chose to you... looks like shit. it's just blahh, it bother me terribly. i guess maybe if i understood the context behind the cartoon look they're going for...? was team fortress a comic? did it have some comic book version story that took place between TF and TF2? i can't really understand why people are so excited about this game - the first TF was alright, but it couldn't compare to any of the other good Half Life mods, like, CS.

    i dunno, i'm not enthusiastic about it at all tho

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  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Splitscreen is now not considered a good type of gameplay? No more loungeroom fpsing? I have a HDTV, it would look fine, and I would gladly miss out on footsteps for the ability to have a mate playing right next to me. The feature on Halo 3 is excellent, and loads of fun, I suppose its because they have specific servers for splitscreen play, but at the same time, Im still immensely disappointed.

    Xenocide the style is perfect and cohesive, ala Windwaker, and Valves characterizations of classes are so detailed and lush it gives the term "class" new meaning. If you dont know what people see in it, you never will, move along. Your possibly trolling. Or just dumb.

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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Holy jesus I need to find $45 so I can pre-order and play the beta. Argh. D:
    I mean, where did this come from? This phenomenon? Is it because of points? People sabotaging? THATS BULLSHIT. There are so many simple fixes for that it makes my head spin (only on same team play, server-specific, votekicks). Im not a massive halo fan, but at least when freinds come over we wont have to take FUCKING TURNS for Halo 3 multiplayer. I mean did I buy these extra controllers for any reason?

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    Edit: I think split-screen is perfectly decent and probably a good idea for the 360, but damn, your posts are hard to read.

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  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Fats wrote: »
    Holy jesus I need to find $45 so I can pre-order and play the beta. Argh. D:
    I mean, where did this come from? This phenomenon? Is it because of points? People sabotaging? THATS BULLSHIT. There are so many simple fixes for that it makes my head spin (only on same team play, server-specific, votekicks). Im not a massive halo fan, but at least when freinds come over we wont have to take FUCKING TURNS for Halo 3 multiplayer. I mean did I buy these extra controllers for any reason?

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    YESSUM

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  • MumblyfishMumblyfish Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Split-screen gameplay is not ideal, but it has its upsides. That said, it has no place in a competitive online game where you will be playing with players not hobbled by/benefiting from split-screen play.

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  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Mumblyfish wrote: »
    Split-screen gameplay is not ideal, but it has its upsides. That said, it has no place in a competitive online game where you will be playing with players not hobbled by/benefiting from split-screen play.

    I guess I just wanted the best of both worlds. And not having been much of a TFer in the past, I viewed this installation, especially from a console perspective, as less than competitive, or at least focussed on multiplayer fun and shenanigans, with the wackyness and the whatnot. I do see your point, and I suppose killing will be fun enough.

    Halo 3 will appease the lounge-room fpser in me, while I'll get my more cerebral fun and challenge from TF2. Which I am still immensely excited for, its style and artistic direction alone are simply awesome, it has more substance than most single player games.

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Mumblyfish wrote: »
    Split-screen gameplay is not ideal, but it has its upsides. That said, it has no place in a competitive online game where you will be playing with players not hobbled by/benefiting from split-screen play.

    That's not really true. Not everyone plays at a competitive level here, most just play for a fun, team based game. I can see why some people would want split screen. This coming from a PC Gamer too. To be honest, I would see it as more of a hindrance than a benefit to the players, but at least they'd be able to co-op together. They'd certainly have to be kept on the same teams, but after that, I'm not sure I see the problem. Perhaps there could be split-screen friendly and split-screen banned servers like Halo 3 does (as Prohass mentioned).

    I mean, I intend to play this game, but I have no intention of taking it seriously and ultra-competitively, I just want to have fun with it. It's not crossplayer either so PC and 360 gamers aren't going to be on the same servers anyway. Which is just as well, because the last thing I want is for my team snipre to be on a control pad when everyone else is on KBAM (Sorry Prohass, but you know it's true).

    As for other PC mutliplayer games that had splitscreen, didn't Serious Sam feature something along those lines? Or was it just co-op singleplayer?

    Back on the topic of the beta, I notice an event has been scheduled in Steam. I would so be in on that if it wasn't 5.00 AM local time. :mrgreen:

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  • Xenocide GeekXenocide Geek Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Prohass wrote: »
    Splitscreen is now not considered a good type of gameplay? No more loungeroom fpsing? I have a HDTV, it would look fine, and I would gladly miss out on footsteps for the ability to have a mate playing right next to me. The feature on Halo 3 is excellent, and loads of fun, I suppose its because they have specific servers for splitscreen play, but at the same time, Im still immensely disappointed.

    Xenocide the style is perfect and cohesive, ala Windwaker, and Valves characterizations of classes are so detailed and lush it gives the term "class" new meaning. If you dont know what people see in it, you never will, move along. Your possibly trolling. Or just dumb.

    because this doesn't sound fanboyish at all :roll:

    what exactly makes their "classes" so lush and detailed, that it could possibly change the entirety of a word?

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  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    It's extremely stylized much in the same way as Windwake, like Prohass brought up.

    So, much like Wind Waker, a lot of people will like it, and some people will complain about it for no reason because they can't appreciate things that look good. I'm tired of seeing game after game with the same fucking graphics. Call of Medal of Hyper Realistic Battlefield Plastic Junk 2008. At least we're finally getting to a point where these games start looking good, but they still all look the same.

    Maybe I'm crazy but having something fresh to look at that's not the same "We're realistic too!" shit from so many other FPS games really makes my day. God forbid someone use some real colors in a game every once in a while. UT2K_ was great with this, Crysis looks semi-realistic while at the same time defining itself with its art direction. CoD4 and the like look great, but I'm so tired of gray and brown and drab. I'll still probably pick it up though. Also CS sucks. Get out.

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    JAEF wrote: »
    It's extremely stylized much in the same way as Windwake, like Prohass brought up.

    So, much like Wind Waker, a lot of people will like it, and some people will complain about it for no reason because they can't appreciate things that look good. I'm tired of seeing game after game with the same fucking graphics. Call of Medal of Hyper Realistic Battlefield Plastic Junk 2008. At least we're finally getting to a point where these games start looking good, but they still all look the same.

    Maybe I'm crazy but having something fresh to look at that's not the same "We're realistic too!" shit from so many other FPS games really makes my day. Also CS sucks. Get out.

    While I largely agree, I have to say the first time I saw Heavy Weapons guy I thought "Mr. Incredible? What's he doing here?". Not necessarily a completely original style is what I guess I'm saying. :mrgreen:

    I feel that there's more than a slight nod to the Incredibles there, whether intentional or not.

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  • Xenocide GeekXenocide Geek Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    JAEF wrote: »
    It's extremely stylized much in the same way as Windwake, like Prohass brought up.

    So, much like Wind Waker, a lot of people will like it, and some people will complain about it for no reason because they can't appreciate things that look good. I'm tired of seeing game after game with the same fucking graphics. Call of Medal of Hyper Realistic Battlefield Plastic Junk 2008. At least we're finally getting to a point where these games start looking good, but they still all look the same.

    Maybe I'm crazy but having something fresh to look at that's not the same "We're realistic too!" shit from so many other FPS games really makes my day. Also CS sucks. Get out.

    shitty graphics aside, nobody has explained to me what makes this game great.

    also, i hope you're joking about the CS thing, because if you're not, you're a total fucking moron. if you say Counter Strike, one of the most influential multiplayer first person shooters sucks? wow.

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  • AftyAfty Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I'm Disappointed by Valve.

    As a long time TFCer i feel like they have really taken away from the core of what tfc used to be, by throwing in quirky graphics and removing grenades (especially concs) plus the other really odd features (the healing shield thing :o) I feel a bit let down, luckily there is fortress forever which i think will be truer to tfc as I value it.

    What a coincidence that the beta for tf2 just happens to fall on the release date of FF though?

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  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    subedii wrote: »

    I mean, I intend to play this game, but I have no intention of taking it seriously and ultra-competitively, I just want to have fun with it. It's not crossplayer either so PC and 360 gamers aren't going to be on the same servers anyway. Which is just as well, because the last thing I want is for my team snipre to be on a control pad when everyone else is on KBAM (Sorry Prohass, but you know it's true).

    Hey I know, Im a avid CS player, I fully realize this is a PC shooter first and console second, still, with the imagery and gameplay, I would've loved some co-op online fun. Ah well.

    And Xenocide, check out the recent CG character vids Valve has released. The writing and characterizations are awesomely realised. Visually its a kind of Spy/Incredibles themed game, and people who enjoy that visual style will be attracted to this. Also, its fun CTF gameplay, and its FREE with another 4 games. Hence the excited masses of 'fanboys'

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    JAEF wrote: »
    It's extremely stylized much in the same way as Windwake, like Prohass brought up.

    So, much like Wind Waker, a lot of people will like it, and some people will complain about it for no reason because they can't appreciate things that look good. I'm tired of seeing game after game with the same fucking graphics. Call of Medal of Hyper Realistic Battlefield Plastic Junk 2008. At least we're finally getting to a point where these games start looking good, but they still all look the same.

    Maybe I'm crazy but having something fresh to look at that's not the same "We're realistic too!" shit from so many other FPS games really makes my day. Also CS sucks. Get out.

    shitty graphics aside, nobody has explained to me what makes this game great.

    also, i hope you're joking about the CS thing, because if you're not, you're a total fucking moron. if you say Counter Strike, one of the most influential multiplayer first person shooters sucks? wow.

    Wow what? Popular? Yes. Influential? Certainly. Can a person still not like it? Definitely.

    Personally, I'm not a huge CS fan either, but I think that's more down to the actual gaming crowd and how hardcore the game has gotten, to the extent that it's largely impenetrable to anyone not in it from the beginning.

    As for "explaining" what makes this game great, in some ways I may as well try and explain why a joke is great. It's subjective. If you want to know why I feel it's great, it's because it's got a unique style, and cares more about goofy fun than trying to have some pretence at realism. It recognises it's a game and goes all out with the more crazy gameplay dynamics (Scout's double jump, medics ability to make people invulnerable. Spy's ability to dissapear completely.

    Really it just looks like fun. I can't "explain" why I like this style of game anymore than I can explain a good joke without killing it.

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  • ecchiecchi Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    if you say Counter Strike, one of the most influential multiplayer first person shooters sucks? wow.
    That's really fucking hilarious because the original Team Fortress, after Quake, is quite possibly the most influential multiplayer fps of all time.
    As a long time TFCer i feel like they have really taken away from the core of what tfc used to be, by throwing in quirky graphics
    As much as I agree with you about the grenade stuff and all that, do you not remember the original TFC and TF graphics? The game really has been cartoony from the beginning.

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Afty wrote: »
    I'm Disappointed by Valve.

    As a long time TFCer i feel like they have really taken away from the core of what tfc used to be, by throwing in quirky graphics and removing grenades (especially concs) plus the other really odd features (the healing shield thing :o) I feel a bit let down, luckily there is fortress forever which i think will be truer to tfc as I value it.

    What a coincidence that the beta for tf2 just happens to fall on the release date of FF though?

    I trust the creators of TFC to know what direction they want to take the series, and to understand which gameplay mechanics work as being fun and which don't.

    The game isn't a carbon copy of TFC, nor was it meant to be. The lack of grenades is part of the gameplay, and the game has been balanced with that in mind. Personally, while the crazy conc grenade tricks might be missed, the constant grenade spam won't be.

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