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Any advice for "Shooter maker '95"?
The Valentine Zombie
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For those that haven't heard of it, "Shooter maker '95" is a Japanese program that lets you create some pretty impressive shmups, as witnessed by the likes of "DOKYUUSO". Having seen what the program is capable of, and having had my creativity crippled in the past by ye olde "Shoot Em Up Construction Kit" on the Amiga, I would LOVE to get my hands on this.
For those that HAVE heard of it, I have a couple of questions...
a)Is it illegal to download, or is it freeware? I have found links in the past that would indicate that it is available, but...*sucks air through teeth*...I haven't risked it.
b)Aparently, the whole program is in Japanese (obviously). I've read other archaic forums that alledged that it was illegal to translate the program, which doesn't make sense...is this true, or is there a translated version?
c)If the above questions vouch for it's legal status, is there anywhere/thing that resembles a manual for the program? Or is it fairly easy to use?
Any info would be appreciated:).
For those that HAVE heard of it, I have a couple of questions...
a)Is it illegal to download, or is it freeware? I have found links in the past that would indicate that it is available, but...*sucks air through teeth*...I haven't risked it.
b)Aparently, the whole program is in Japanese (obviously). I've read other archaic forums that alledged that it was illegal to translate the program, which doesn't make sense...is this true, or is there a translated version?
c)If the above questions vouch for it's legal status, is there anywhere/thing that resembles a manual for the program? Or is it fairly easy to use?
Any info would be appreciated:).
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I honestly dont know about the legality of the "freeness" of the program. It sound more like a moral issue and less of a legal one if its really from 1995.........Is it still available for purchase? You should look into that, if you can buy it, then it probably isnt free unless theres a free version.......
What the shit?
No, you don't actually know what you're talking about.
Moving on.
The [insert whatever] Maker things were all actual commercial products that were released only in Japan. Some guy (I want to say his name was Migs something) translated them to English and "released" them, illegally, for free. (If he'd, for instance, just released a translation patch, it would have been fine). He took his site down a while back when RPG Maker XP was released, by the makers of the actual software, in English.
Shooter Maker 95 is a copyrighted piece of software, but like most twelve-year-old pieces of software that nobody cares about, you're not risking much by downloading it illegally except your own moral standing.
re: translation...having browsed old forums, there seems to have been quite a few people clambering to get their hands on it (if they haven't already), and is seems someone has translated it into Spanish. You'd think if a program was that popular, it would be released in other countries/languages...oh well.
Hmmm...*concience creaks*...if I can find someone related to the creation of the program to hand money to, then I will.
and I find it interesting that If I wrote a piece of software you think its legal for you to modify it to make it say whatever you want..... it definitely doesn't work like that. the Art comparison was just the easiest way to put it.
If I want to modify it for my own personal use? Fuck yes I can. Welcome to Fair Use. If I want to draw stink lines on the $5 poster of the Mona Lisa that I bought from the gift shop, I can do that too.
edit: anyway, there's some other SHMUP-maker program that is actually freeware that was posted in some thread a while back; people were using it to make Tohou-clones.
Ooooooh...*searches*
The discussion/point I was trying to make from the start is that you cant release something like this to modify an original piece, not make a copy for your self and translate it. go fuck your copy of the mona lisa for all I care, edit: rude remark removed.It was never about him translating it for himself, if he could translate it, its obvious that he wouldnt need it becuase its assumed he could read it.
To stay on topic, is there a link to the freeware program? Is that in english?
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=19488&highlight=SHMUP-maker+program&page=3
Looks like a language (coding:P) may be needed for this one...
Don Miguel (I looked it up) got in trouble because he released the entire goddamn software, translated. If he released just a translation patch, nothing would have happened.
If you released a patch for AIM that changed a string to whatever, and somebody downloaded it and installed it over their copy, there's nothing AOL can do about it either way. Hell, that actually happened once (except in a far more useful way); anyone remember DeadAIM? AOL's only recourse there was to buy the rights from the creator of the software and shut it down that way.