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Are Apple heartless bastards...
ben0207
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..or have I just maed najer fale with my new(ish) monitor?
I have a 20" Intel iMac from last year. I want a second 20" display, so I can hook up my iMac for the Potatoshopping, and my 360 for the lazoring of mans. All well and good.
So I bought one of these, as it was cheap (200 UKP) on eBay. Now I find out I need 85 FUCKING POUNDS worth of adaptors,and thats not including hooking up my 360.
What the shit? Is there some way round this?
I have a 20" Intel iMac from last year. I want a second 20" display, so I can hook up my iMac for the Potatoshopping, and my 360 for the lazoring of mans. All well and good.
So I bought one of these, as it was cheap (200 UKP) on eBay. Now I find out I need 85 FUCKING POUNDS worth of adaptors,and thats not including hooking up my 360.
What the shit? Is there some way round this?
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upon googling: no, it has Apple's weird mini-DVI. You need a mini-DVI to DVI adapter (something like $20 from the Apple Store) and a DVI cable (get it from Monoprice if it ships to your weird, far-off country). Do not ever buy DVI cable from a store that charges like $50 for 6 feet. DVI/HDMI ripoffs are the new trend for retail stores. Find somewhere on the Internet that has it cheap.
Just so people can buy the adapters?
The iMac should have come with this, I believe.
EDIT: Looking at the monitor, it doesn't help. It's an old monitor, before Apple decided on the DVI port, which uses Apple's own port.
Intel Macs actually don't have it included in the box. He needs a Mini-DVI to DVI adapter which as mentioned is $20 bucks but as you mentioned the display uses the old ADC connector so he also needs the 99 dollar DVI to ADC adapter. (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=6C04E07A&nplm=M8661LL/B)
No idea if there are cheaper third party alternatives.
I enjoy the good apple bash every now and then, but this is a bit much.
I hear you man, I'm not saying that the ports make any kind of since. But you bought an apple product that was discontinued over 3 years ago. The link you provided clearly shows this port nonsense, yet you still bought the product (because it was cheap)
I feel your pain, but it would be like buying an old Dell flatscreen, and then complaining that you had to buy a vga-dvi adapter.
Anywho, something like this would work, but looks crazy short, http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Belkin-ADC-To-DVI-Apple-Monitor-Adapter/2635861/product.html?cid=25608&fp=F#TABS
So you would have to buy an additional DVI extender, like it was said before, look at http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10209
RAM.
and Monitors.
yes, they are nice and beautiful, but damned inconvenient, and expensive as fuck. (though you did seem to get a decent deal)
(PS: I thought the mini-DVI to DVI adaptor came with the iMac?)
If it did I've lost mine.
for over $100 each time. i'd say yeah, they are heartless.
First, what the fuck language is "maed najer fale"?
And as this monitor was discontinued 3 years ago, this is not new(ish).
But yeah, you're kind of fucked. If you have a Mac with an ADC port, you can convert that to DVI for about $40. But you want to go the other way, and the thing about the ADC format is that it did everything and the kitchen sink including provide power to the display AS WELL as having hardware integration over USB for brightness and contrast.
The official Apple solution was $150 MSRP, and the third party solutions at the time were $100 MSRP.
You sir, are fucked. But Apple isn't heartless. You just made a tragic mistake.
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No Mini-DVI adapter comes with iMacs. You can buy an analog (to VGA) or digital (to DVI) adapter for about $30
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Apple sold an official solution to use this with non ADC hardware. It was not locked down.
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In the real world, I don't think it's possible to have something completely locked down; I probably shouldn't have used that term.
I was mostly speculating as to why I think Apple is so stubborn about ports; providing their own solution (with adapters for extra cost) instead of a general standard. A customer who tries to use a third-party solution and has a bad experience may lay blame on Apple, which undermines a lot of work put into providing an integrated consumer electronics solution.
Well thats all well and good but they don't really do that any more. ADC was their last kick at that cat, and ADB was their only other truly proprietary inteface format. NuBUS and SCSI were used for expansions but they were industry standards but only found in high-end PC's at the time so they seemed kind of proprietary.
Mini-DVI, for example, is a standard but I can only think of Sony when it comes to others who use it. It allows for VGA and DVI functionality in the space the size of a dime. This is important for something with a slim form factor like an iMac or a Sony VAIO. Its not super common, but its not proprietary like ADC and ADB were.
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edit; Nevermind. That's kind of a dumb question. Your statement already seems to indicate that they've made a move toward more interoperable systems to avoid stuff like this thread.
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