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I met a girl.

_J__J_ PedantRegistered User, __BANNED USERS regular
edited October 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
Situation:

I went to a comic shop that's 45 minutes away to trade in some cards and there was a new girl working there. When I asked to see the binder of WoW cards she said that she had only played WoW a few times and we started talking. We ended up spending 47 minutes standing there at the counter talking about philosophy, pets, Lewis Black, colleges, Kurt Vonnegut, latin, comics, and how all relationships are traps and being educated makes one depressed. It was freaking awesome. We just stood there talking about crap and customers walked around us as we continued to talk. It was so freaking great. She ended some bit of conversation mentioning "her religion" and I asked what it was. She said that she was a member of "Our Lady of Perpetual Astonishment". I said I had read that somewhere but couldn't remember where and she said, "Think 'Man Without a Country'." to which I said, "VONNEGUT!"

Then she had to go help some other customers so I checked out and she said, "good to meet you."

Here's the question: What do I do now?

My thinking is that if two people who don't know one another can meet and stand at a counter of a comic shop talking for 47 minutes it's indicative of something. But I don't know what it means or of it means anything.

In the conversation she mentioned that she was engaged and the guy broke it off, so she's bitter about that and has decided to just be on her own, which is why she's working at the shop. So I'm not planning on getting her to date me or anything. I just want to talk to her again. Maybe establish some means of having conversations with her on a regular basis.

What do you guys think? Should I go back tomorrow? Wait till next week? I'd like to be able to just talk to this girl on a regular basis. But I don't know what to do with "We stood at a counter talking for 47 minutes". I don't know what the step is between that and being friends.

Thoughts? Keep in mind that she lives 45 minutes away. So we aren't going to bump into one another.

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  • I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell UpI'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    if you live 45 minutes away i'd say wait a few days to go back

    however most card places have a WoW sunday

    go to that, bring a deck for her, and offer to teach her how to play

    worst come to worst she learned another card game, which is partly her job

    so h5 there

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I would say do what he said except skip that wow deck shit and ask her out on a date.


    edit: Ok, after re-reading the entire post this is slightly different. However I do not believe that you both stood there for 47 minutes just to end up becoming friends and playing cards and shit. This isn't a derogatory remark, but this is a 'rebound situation.' I think she is opening towards you. Go back to the shop and talk to her again. Twice or three times and gauge her. At that point I would ask her out.

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  • GorgeeenGorgeeen __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    You don't even know her work schedule. What if she's just plain not there?

    And skip the WoW shit.

    Gorgeeen on
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  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    1) Don't know her work schedule.
    2) Store is 45 minutes away.

    Skipping the WoW shit sounds like good advice. I really just want to buy her dinner so i can talk to her again. But I don't know how to do that. If I drive back tomorrow it looks like...I don't know what. And if I wait till next weekend...I don't know about that either.

    The other option is just to enjoy it for what it was. 47 minutes of talking to a girl in which I didn't feel like crap. But I'd like to have more opportunities for this. How to obtain that? Dunno.

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  • I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell UpI'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    i don't know though

    if she just got out of a bad relationship, and made it clear when they met that she is not interested in dating at the moment I'd say it's best to slow play this one

    I'd say showing up and asking her out on a date directly is suicide on this one. then again some girls have said they hate relationships because they want you to ask them out (god i don't know why but it happens) so I'd say it's up to you, you're the one that talked to her.

    if she seemed genuinely serious about not being in a relationship right now I'd just try to hang out with her at work some more

    if not go for it

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  • GorgeeenGorgeeen __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    Hey I know this isn't related but, Man without a country? Isn't that somewhere from Bioshock?

    Gorgeeen on
    No god damnit! The sheriff is a nig*Church Bells*r!!
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Pensies are "just kinda ugly" any way you slice it.

    Or don't slice it.
  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    i don't know though

    if she just got out of a bad relationship, and made it clear when they met that she is not interested in dating at the moment I'd say it's best to slow play this one

    I'd say showing up and asking her out on a date directly is suicide on this one. then again some girls have said they hate relationships because they want you to ask them out (god i don't know why but it happens) so I'd say it's up to you, you're the one that talked to her.

    if she seemed genuinely serious about not being in a relationship right now I'd just try to hang out with her at work some more

    if not go for it

    She didn't make it clear so much as we talked about it. It wasn't like when you talk to a girl and she brings up her boyfriend 45 seconds into it. We were just talking and agreed that relationships are traps and it's best to avoid them.

    Which is true.

    I just want to talk to her. Fuck fucking.

    _J_ on
  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    Gorgeeen wrote: »
    Hey I know this isn't related but, Man without a country? Isn't that somewhere from Bioshock?

    Man Without a Country is Vonnegut's latest book.

    Might be in Bioshock.

    _J_ on
  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Like I said in D&D chat, I would go tomorrow and flat out ask her to dinner. Calling is creepy. Waiting is potentially dangerous. Going tomorrow, saying "sorry, I should have done this yesterday" and asking her out may look creepy but I think it yields the highest potential for return. Since you are socially removed from this girl and the store is not specifically important to your consumer needs, being so far away, there really is nothing to lose by going tomorrow and asking her out except some pride.

    Personally, I think waiting will just dilute the initial reaction she had to you and maybe you to her. And I think calling the store to ask to talk to her would be weird too. I would go tomorrow and do damage control. Tell her you wanted to ask her out yesterday but...well, I don't know. Make something up or tell her the truth. Either way, go tomorrow and state your intentions. Tell her you really enjoyed your conversation, you think you connected, you think she may have felt the same way, and since you cannot come to this location very often you wanted to take her out to dinner if she were willing.

    Honestly, that's a scary way to go about it, I know, but I think it is the best course of action toward accomplishing your goal of making a connection with her.

    Also, no offense to others above me, but I think it is naive to believe you can start a relationship with a female behind-the-counter worker simply by being a repeat customer who is obviously not there to make purchases but has an ulterior motive. DANGER! DANGER! DANGER! is what I think her mental reaction might be. Just go and ask her out as soon as possible. If she says no? No harm, no foul, and you can scratch that place off your shopping list.

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  • I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell UpI'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    _J_ wrote: »
    i don't know though

    if she just got out of a bad relationship, and made it clear when they met that she is not interested in dating at the moment I'd say it's best to slow play this one

    I'd say showing up and asking her out on a date directly is suicide on this one. then again some girls have said they hate relationships because they want you to ask them out (god i don't know why but it happens) so I'd say it's up to you, you're the one that talked to her.

    if she seemed genuinely serious about not being in a relationship right now I'd just try to hang out with her at work some more

    if not go for it

    She didn't make it clear so much as we talked about it. It wasn't like when you talk to a girl and she brings up her boyfriend 45 seconds into it. We were just talking and agreed that relationships are traps and it's best to avoid them.

    Which is true.

    I just want to talk to her. Fuck fucking.

    yeah but won't it look like the opposite if you go "hey remember how we talked about how relationships are bad? want to go to dinner?"?

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  • lsukalellsukalel Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Go ahead and ask her out to just spend some time to get to know her better, just like that because that is what you want at this point, and let it develop from there. The key is to make it to where she doesnt feel pressure and doesnt think you are too into her to soon so you dont scare her off.

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  • GorgeeenGorgeeen __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    Look if all you want to do is talk then go ASAP and get her IM screenname or something and talk to her online.

    it doesn't sound like there will be any relationship coming out of this.

    relationships are like traps she says.

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    No god damnit! The sheriff is a nig*Church Bells*r!!
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Pensies are "just kinda ugly" any way you slice it.

    Or don't slice it.
  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Gorgeeen wrote: »
    Look if all you want to do is talk then go ASAP and get her IM screenname or something and talk to her online.

    it doesn't sound like there will be any relationship coming out of this.

    relationships are like traps she says.

    A friendship is a relationship. Asking her to dinner does not necessarily communicate "hi, I want to fuck you tonight." It may very well communicate nothing more than "hi, can I take you to dinner?"

    _J_ has spoken to this girl and we haven't, so he's the only one that knows how to be politic in asking, but I'm sure, if he goes tomorrow, that he'll be able to find the right phrasing to it wouldn't put her off at least with regard to the content of their "relationship" discussion today.

    Drez on
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  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    The biggest question I have is whether tomorrow or next weekend is the best time to go. I can figure out how to talk. I just don't know when to talk.

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Drez wrote: »
    Like I said in D&D chat, I would go tomorrow and flat out ask her to dinner. Calling is creepy. Waiting is potentially dangerous. Going tomorrow, saying "sorry, I should have done this yesterday" and asking her out may look creepy but I think it yields the highest potential for return. Since you are socially removed from this girl and the store is not specifically important to your consumer needs, being so far away, there really is nothing to lose by going tomorrow and asking her out except some pride.

    Personally, I think waiting will just dilute the initial reaction she had to you and maybe you to her. And I think calling the store to ask to talk to her would be weird too. I would go tomorrow and do damage control. Tell her you wanted to ask her out yesterday but...well, I don't know. Make something up or tell her the truth. Either way, go tomorrow and state your intentions. Tell her you really enjoyed your conversation, you think you connected, you think she may have felt the same way, and since you cannot come to this location very often you wanted to take her out to dinner if she were willing.

    Honestly, that's a scary way to go about it, I know, but I think it is the best course of action toward accomplishing your goal of making a connection with her.

    Also, no offense to others above me, but I think it is naive to believe you can start a relationship with a female behind-the-counter worker simply by being a repeat customer who is obviously not there to make purchases but has an ulterior motive. DANGER! DANGER! DANGER! is what I think her mental reaction might be. Just go and ask her out as soon as possible. If she says no? No harm, no foul, and you can scratch that place off your shopping list.

    This is all good advice. The biggest risk you have is going there, and finding out she isn't working that day. That would suck.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Al_wat wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    Like I said in D&D chat, I would go tomorrow and flat out ask her to dinner. Calling is creepy. Waiting is potentially dangerous. Going tomorrow, saying "sorry, I should have done this yesterday" and asking her out may look creepy but I think it yields the highest potential for return. Since you are socially removed from this girl and the store is not specifically important to your consumer needs, being so far away, there really is nothing to lose by going tomorrow and asking her out except some pride.

    Personally, I think waiting will just dilute the initial reaction she had to you and maybe you to her. And I think calling the store to ask to talk to her would be weird too. I would go tomorrow and do damage control. Tell her you wanted to ask her out yesterday but...well, I don't know. Make something up or tell her the truth. Either way, go tomorrow and state your intentions. Tell her you really enjoyed your conversation, you think you connected, you think she may have felt the same way, and since you cannot come to this location very often you wanted to take her out to dinner if she were willing.

    Honestly, that's a scary way to go about it, I know, but I think it is the best course of action toward accomplishing your goal of making a connection with her.

    Also, no offense to others above me, but I think it is naive to believe you can start a relationship with a female behind-the-counter worker simply by being a repeat customer who is obviously not there to make purchases but has an ulterior motive. DANGER! DANGER! DANGER! is what I think her mental reaction might be. Just go and ask her out as soon as possible. If she says no? No harm, no foul, and you can scratch that place off your shopping list.

    This is all good advice. The biggest risk you have is going there, and finding out she isn't working that day. That would suck.

    That is something I had not considered, admittedly, but there's really no good way around that.

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  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    Al_wat wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    Like I said in D&D chat, I would go tomorrow and flat out ask her to dinner. Calling is creepy. Waiting is potentially dangerous. Going tomorrow, saying "sorry, I should have done this yesterday" and asking her out may look creepy but I think it yields the highest potential for return. Since you are socially removed from this girl and the store is not specifically important to your consumer needs, being so far away, there really is nothing to lose by going tomorrow and asking her out except some pride.

    Personally, I think waiting will just dilute the initial reaction she had to you and maybe you to her. And I think calling the store to ask to talk to her would be weird too. I would go tomorrow and do damage control. Tell her you wanted to ask her out yesterday but...well, I don't know. Make something up or tell her the truth. Either way, go tomorrow and state your intentions. Tell her you really enjoyed your conversation, you think you connected, you think she may have felt the same way, and since you cannot come to this location very often you wanted to take her out to dinner if she were willing.

    Honestly, that's a scary way to go about it, I know, but I think it is the best course of action toward accomplishing your goal of making a connection with her.

    Also, no offense to others above me, but I think it is naive to believe you can start a relationship with a female behind-the-counter worker simply by being a repeat customer who is obviously not there to make purchases but has an ulterior motive. DANGER! DANGER! DANGER! is what I think her mental reaction might be. Just go and ask her out as soon as possible. If she says no? No harm, no foul, and you can scratch that place off your shopping list.

    This is all good advice. The biggest risk you have is going there, and finding out she isn't working that day. That would suck.

    The 45 minute drive back is what would suck.

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    hmm... and please, someone verify how creepy this sounds, I'm just throwing the idea out there.

    Call the place, but under the pretense of asking if they have a particular product in stock. If she is in, go for it.

    (go for it as in drive out there)

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  • Chief1138Chief1138 Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    nothing wrong with that, as long as you're sure she'd be the one answering the phone

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  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    That's not a terrible idea.

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Just wait a week from when you met her to begin with. Very good chance she'll be there. More than likely you will stick out to her and she will recognize you. Chat her up a bit, find out her work schedule, and perhaps find some common grounds on games. She works at a games store and obviously enjoys the hobby so get in some games with her. Just get to know her a bit and ask her out.

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  • ege02ege02 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    _J_ wrote: »
    47 minutes of talking to a girl in which I didn't feel like crap. But I'd like to have more opportunities for this. How to obtain that? Dunno.

    You create opportunities.

    Go ask her out. Tell her that you've never talked to a girl you've just met for 47 minutes before and ask if she wants to grab coffee.

    This is not rocket science. Seriously.

    Don't wait. She works retail, chances are she sees tens of people everyday. Waiting will only dilute the value of the initial interaction. Go there tomorrow and ask her out.

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    ege02 wrote: »
    _J_ wrote: »
    47 minutes of talking to a girl in which I didn't feel like crap. But I'd like to have more opportunities for this. How to obtain that? Dunno.

    You create opportunities.

    Go ask her out. Tell her that you've never talked to a girl you've just met for 47 minutes before and ask if she wants to grab coffee.

    This is not rocket science. Seriously.

    Don't wait. She works retail, chances are she sees tens of people everyday. Waiting will only dilute the value of the initial interaction. Go there tomorrow and ask her out.

    this, yes do this.

    I especially like the idea of saying you've never really done this before - makes things seem more genuine, if thats the correct term.

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  • AtomBombAtomBomb Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    This only works if you can determine roughly when she gets off of work. Go out there, buy something. Bring up that you're not from nearby, that you're hungry and you don't know what's good that is close. If she suggests someplace, ask her if she wants to go with you, so that you're not staring at the wall by yourself. Try to be funny about it. I'll buy you lunch/dinner if you help me avoid being the sad guy at the table for one kind of thing. Try to make the vibe "I want someone to talk to while I eat" and not "I'm hoping to bang you in my car in the parking lot because I bought you food". If she goes, great. If not, you get to try out a restaurant she likes and that gives you something to talk about next time.

    The reason you need to know when she gets off work is so that, if she's interested, you don't have to stand around her place of employment waiting for her, which is guaranteed to get awkward. One thing that might work to find that out is for you to call, and if you get her on the phone, ask her to put the thing you're going to buy on hold for you. You ask something like "Who should I ask for when I come to pick it up?". It's a dumb question, but she's likely to respond with "Well, I'm here until close" or something like that.

    That sounds a little more stalker-ish than I intended.

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  • aesiraesir __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    end a conversation with: wow, you're actually pretty awesome to talk to. Wanna hang out this weekend and (insert interesting idea)

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  • LiveWireLiveWire Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Go pick up Man Without A Country. It honestly will take about one sitting to read, its a tiny little shit.
    Go back in a few days and tell you her read it. She will fucking dig that, trust me. Give your opinion on some of his ideas and ask her what she thinks. Ask her if she'd like to go do something after work.

    Pretty much just stay out of WoW cards with her. And don't use any of that sort of crap as a pretext for anything. You're trying to have a relationship with her beyond the Comic Shop, so keep comic shop shit in the rear-view mirror. Maybe once you guys are more tight you can reintroduce that. It sound like you two already have pretty good chemistry etc going on, so the hard parts already done. Just invite her out to something.

    edit: But whatever you do, you must ask her out the next time you see her. You've already talked to her for 45 minutes, thats way more than necessary. The longer you go now the more awkward it will get.

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  • JeedanJeedan Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    If you were chatting to her for 47 minutes theres nothing shameful about going back there to chat to her again. Dont think you need to make some kind of covert ops strategy or anything.

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  • AbsoluteHeroAbsoluteHero __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    I don't know if this is just the 500 pound gorilla in the room, but I think it's kinda creepy that you kept track of the fact you talked for 47 minutes exactly.

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I don't know if this is just the 500 pound gorilla in the room, but I think it's kinda creepy that you kept track of the fact you talked for 47 minutes exactly.

    Its called a clock, playboy. I'm willing to bet he had one in plain eyeshot from where he was talking to her.

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  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    I don't know if this is just the 500 pound gorilla in the room, but I think it's kinda creepy that you kept track of the fact you talked for 47 minutes exactly.

    I checked my phone before I went into the store to see what time it was. Then when I left I checked it again. I wasn't standing there with a stopwatch.

    I appreciate the good advice. I slept on it and I think I'm going to use the George Costanza method and do the opposite, so I'll probably go back next weekend rather than today. I really like the idea of calling before I go and will probably do.

    If anyone thinks of anything else feel free to post. I appreciate it.

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  • joshuadewaaljoshuadewaal Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Go back to the store and see how she responds to you this next time.

    Don't ask her out on a date, she probably wants more of a friend at this point. I would suggest asking her to hangout sometime, and be casual about it, and get her phone number.

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  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    Trying to figure out if I go back to the store this weekend. I think I ought to go. But then there is the chance that she either ignores me or doesn't want to hang out. And then my hopes are crushed.

    But I think it would probably be best to just go and see what happens.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    nothing to lose by trying =)

    good luck to you either way

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  • CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    _J_ wrote: »
    Trying to figure out if I go back to the store this weekend. I think I ought to go. But then there is the chance that she either ignores me or doesn't want to hang out. And then my hopes are crushed.

    But I think it would probably be best to just go and see what happens.

    Nothing ventured, etc, etc.

    You know what to do.

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  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    I'm tempted to drive up Friday after work. That'll give me Friday and Saturday opportunities. I'd assume that she would work one of those two days.

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I would call the store and tell whomever's there to give her your phone number.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    Malkor wrote: »
    I would call the store and tell whomever's there to give her your phone number.

    Don't do this. And I certainly hope they wouldn't give that information. Seriously, pretend you're working at a store and some random dude calls asking for the phone-number of a female co-worker you don't hate. You're not actually going to give up that information are you?

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  • witch_iewitch_ie Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    He said to give her his phone number, not the other way around.

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    witch_ie wrote: »
    He said to give her his phone number, not the other way around.

    Yeah!

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  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    Malkor wrote: »
    I would call the store and tell whomever's there to give her your phone number.

    Don't do this. And I certainly hope they wouldn't give that information. Seriously, pretend you're working at a store and some random dude calls asking for the phone-number of a female co-worker you don't hate. You're not actually going to give up that information are you?

    I wouldn't do that. And if some random male called and said to give his phone number to a girl who worked there? Wouldn't do that either.

    I would, however, prank them.

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