Well I came here for some Halo discussion but since the thread seems more interested in games as a sport I'll bite. If you define a sport as a competitive game with scoring then yeah; video games meet all the qualifications. If you want to nit-pick about the level of physical activity involved then we might as well bring up bowling and golf. Are sports defined by physical activity or by technical skill? You can’t really compare games to books or movies in this sense because there’s no way to score book reading – ok actually my elementary school did score book reading but whatever…
Great game though; sport or not. I like what they’ve done with the multiplayer levels; I’d go so far as to say they’re quite possibly the best I’ve seen though I haven’t played TF2 yet.
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Well I came here for some Halo discussion but since the thread seems more interested in games as a sport I'll bite. If you define a sport as a competitive game with scoring then yeah; video games meet all the qualifications. If you want to nit-pick about the level of physical activity involved then we might as well bring up bowling and golf. Are sports defined by physical activity or by technical skill? You can’t really compare games to books or movies in this sense because there’s no way to score book reading – ok actually my elementary school did score book reading but whatever…
Great game though; sport or not. I like what they’ve done with the multiplayer levels; I’d go so far as to say they’re quite possibly the best I’ve seen though I haven’t played TF2 yet.
TF2 is equally awesome, but in an equally different way. Completely different style of gameplay.
Wanting videogames to be considered a real sport is just the geek's jock-envy. They want to shine like jocks can.
Mind you, I also consider myself a geek and love videogame,s but I find it laughable that some people would take pro-gaming seriously, which is most likely filled with unhealthy social outcasts that do nothing but play videogames all day.
Quite re-defining the word sport and this wouldn't be so hard for you. You are considering athletics and sports to be the same thing, and by definition they are not.
People who call pro gamers "cyber-athletes" are idiots, but calling pro gaming a sport is perfectly within the definition of what sport means.
Wanting videogames to be considered a real sport is just the geek's jock-envy. They want to shine like jocks can.
Mind you, I also consider myself a geek and love videogame,s but I find it laughable that some people would take pro-gaming seriously, which is most likely filled with unhealthy social outcasts that do nothing but play videogames all day.
Quit re-defining the word sport and this wouldn't be so hard for you. You are considering athletics and sports to be the same thing, and by definition they are not.
Ahahahahaha, I just heard a new quote from one of the grunts, right after I blew up a couple of them with a plasma grenade.
"My best friend is dead!"
"He just killed Yub Yub!"
I don't remember the exact dialog, but I heard two that were hiding behind a rock when their Brute had been killed discussing whether or not to come out of cover, then one of them says "alright, if you're sure!" then I headshotted them both with a Battle Rifle.
The sheer amount of that shit in this game is ridiculous. I was hearing new stuff in Halo 2 for years, and 3 has more than double it.
i still don't think i'll ever hear better than "HE STILL WIELDS THE WHACK-STICK!" while chasing down a Grunt with the gravity hammer on Sierra 117
Wanting videogames to be considered a real sport is just the geek's jock-envy. They want to shine like jocks can.
Mind you, I also consider myself a geek and love videogame,s but I find it laughable that some people would take pro-gaming seriously, which is most likely filled with unhealthy social outcasts that do nothing but play videogames all day.
I think ripping you and your comment here a new asshole might be good sport.
Major League Gaming is a gaming competition that's been aired on Sportscenter and TechTV.
It brings some very good presentation with it, and seems to push the 'sport' facet a lot more than the 'gaming' facet. It's not all flashy and cliched as past gaming competitions
They play Halo 2, are amazing at it, and get paid very good money.
The leader of the top clan just bought a new two story house with his winnings
I think certain video games (not all, just the ones that focus more on competition like Halo 3's ranked ladder) are a very viable and the MLG program is a pure example of that. I enjoyed watching it, and the commentary explaining pretty much everything going on a map (like weapon placement, team formations, etc.) was very good.
Ahahahahaha, I just heard a new quote from one of the grunts, right after I blew up a couple of them with a plasma grenade.
"My best friend is dead!"
"He just killed Yub Yub!"
I don't remember the exact dialog, but I heard two that were hiding behind a rock when their Brute had been killed discussing whether or not to come out of cover, then one of them says "alright, if you're sure!" then I headshotted them both with a Battle Rifle.
The sheer amount of that shit in this game is ridiculous. I was hearing new stuff in Halo 2 for years, and 3 has more than double it.
i still don't think i'll ever hear better than "HE STILL WIELDS THE WHACK-STICK!" while chasing down a Grunt with the gravity hammer on Sierra 117
I laughed when while chasing one of the little guys down he says "Why is he following me?"
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Ahahahahaha, I just heard a new quote from one of the grunts, right after I blew up a couple of them with a plasma grenade.
"My best friend is dead!"
"He just killed Yub Yub!"
I don't remember the exact dialog, but I heard two that were hiding behind a rock when their Brute had been killed discussing whether or not to come out of cover, then one of them says "alright, if you're sure!" then I headshotted them both with a Battle Rifle.
The sheer amount of that shit in this game is ridiculous. I was hearing new stuff in Halo 2 for years, and 3 has more than double it.
i still don't think i'll ever hear better than "HE STILL WIELDS THE WHACK-STICK!" while chasing down a Grunt with the gravity hammer on Sierra 117
I laughed when while chasing one of the little guys down he says "Why is he following me?"
"The demon killed our leader! Run!" and then they all scatter. This is after headshotting someone with the gravity hammer.
I don't know why they care about using equipment. It can't have anything to do with "cheapness" because the MLG matches of Halo I've seen have revolved entirely around getting the cheapest kills possible.
Man, I love getting booted for being a "douchebag" when the party leader stole my elephant mid race and killed me because I was winning.
lulz
I got booted from an awesome Grav Hammers match last night. I was in second place and it happened right after I said we should all gang up on the guy in the Banshee. I like to think, since it was a PA game, that the connection went bad and everyone got the boot...
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My favorite is still when I was blasting some brutes with the battle rifle, three or four grunts ran up, put their hand sup and yelled "Don't shoot!".
I'm sorry, but redefining every single activity with any ammount of competition as a sport doesn't make it so.
Third definition of 'sport' from dictionary.com:
3. diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime.
by that definition masturbation and television watching are also sports
By definition they are sports. Hell, I'm a professional masturbater. No one can stroke my dick like I can, I should be in the Hall of Masturbation Fame.
Quite re-defining the word sport and this wouldn't be so hard for you. You are considering athletics and sports to be the same thing, and by definition they are not.
People who call pro gamers "cyber-athletes" are idiots, but calling pro gaming a sport is perfectly within the definition of what sport means.
Modern english defines words by their usage. That is, if the general public decides that pro-gaming isn't a sport, or a sport can only be played by atheletes, then its not (See also: the clusterfuck that is the definition of Web 2.0, or why most people call in-line skates Rollerblades). I'm not saying either of you are right or wrong, but posting dictionary.com quotes won't win the argument for anyone.
That aside, Sunday's game of rocket race might have been the funniest moment I've had playing Halo
I'm sorry, but redefining every single activity with any ammount of competition as a sport doesn't make it so.
Third definition of 'sport' from dictionary.com:
3. diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime.
by that definition masturbation and television watching are also sports
By definition they are sports. Hell, I'm a professional masturbater. No one can stroke my dick like I can, I should be in the Hall of Masturbation Fame.
the problem that you are having is that you are taking anything that fulfils ANY definition of the word sport, and declaring them to all be the same.
when a word has multiple meanings, that doesn't mean that things under two different meanings can be considered the ==
I'm sorry, but redefining every single activity with any ammount of competition as a sport doesn't make it so.
Third definition of 'sport' from dictionary.com:
3. diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime.
by that definition masturbation and television watching are also sports
Ok so a pleasant passtime is not enough to qualify something as a sport. Is it the fact that you're playing in a virtual world as opposed to a real one the sole aspect of video games that negate them as a sport or is there something else?
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i was chasing down a grunt at one point to turn a corner and find him sobbing "don't kill me..". I unloaded a burst from my BR into his head, to get a shower of confetti and "HOOORAAYYYY", because i had Grunt Birthday Party on.
I'm sorry, but redefining every single activity with any ammount of competition as a sport doesn't make it so.
Third definition of 'sport' from dictionary.com:
3. diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime.
by that definition masturbation and television watching are also sports
By definition they are sports. Hell, I'm a professional masturbater. No one can stroke my dick like I can, I should be in the Hall of Masturbation Fame.
the problem that you are having is that you are taking anything that fulfils ANY definition of the word sport, and declaring them to all be the same.
when a word has multiple meanings, that doesn't mean that things under two different meanings can be considered the ==
Guys, I have a terrible feeling that the more you keep arguing about this pointless stuff, the closer the mods come to saying "This thread has outlived our purpose" and closing it before that 117 page count.
Do you want to spoil that party for everyone? Do you guys want to be party poopers? Cut it out!
Also: Man .. I got home from class this afternoon and logged in wanting a game of Rocket Race like nothing else. Only one person was online. I was so sad.
I also really want to go looking for all the skulls .. but, I suck at getting to them and I just finished playing through to get all the terminals, so maybe I'll do that later.
I feel like I'm absolutely terrible at MP. I was doing pretty good until I hit Rank 4, now in non-team games I come in the bottom half every time. Team Games I'm pretty good at, I assume because I'm more of a defensive player in video games and watching your buddies backs helps a lot.
Still I don't get terribly high kill counts, not that I care that much as long as I help my team win, but I require that damn Ascetic armor so I need to get better at Lone Wolf crap. Any tips?
EDIT: I was awesome at Halo 1, always in the top 3 at every Halo event we had on my college campus (which was only among 100or so people) but barely played Halo 2 MP (I didn't live in the dorms anymore and the internet I had was spotty at best).
Something interesting a guy I know pointed out:
Seeing as you fight and board about 4 of them over the course of campaign, we've come to know their ins and outs more significantly. But seeing as the Covenant are practically incapable of building anything more advanced than Tier 4 without copying directly from the Forerunner, one has to wonder, what are the Scarabs based on? There certainly aren't any leg dependant Forerunner machines of even near that size. However, today I noticed something: SCARABS ARE LEKGOLO. Now you might think this is an obsurd idea. However, next time you board and start to kill the generator of a scarab, I beg of you, observe the weak point which must be hit for massive damage CLOSELY. You'll notice that it is composed MOSTLY of the very same worms that Hunters are made from. And in this context, makes sense. After all, the worms have incredible muscular strength, but are extremely vulnerable to even small arms fire, so why not completely encase them in heavy armour?
And note that Lekgolo, according to the Bestarium, can be formed into MANY assemblages of different shape, size, and application. It also says that combat ready hunters are the rarest type.
Just a tip, if you're playing Lone Wolves and you have Crazy King on Narrows remember this
- There are only 3 hill points. Two of the mid-section ends and on top of the bridge in the middle.
- It tends to choose one of the two mid-end points more often than the middle of the bridge. (obviously)
- The hill shifts every 30 seconds I think
- If you die in one of the end-points then when you respawn go sit in the other end-point. There's little chance you'll make it back to the first one in time. If you're lucky you'll be sitting in the end-point the hill shifts to.
I'm usually awesome at King on that map but so many people just run at the current hill rather than anticipate the next shift.
Something interesting a guy I know pointed out:
Seeing as you fight and board about 4 of them over the course of campaign, we've come to know their ins and outs more significantly. But seeing as the Covenant are practically incapable of building anything more advanced than Tier 4 without copying directly from the Forerunner, one has to wonder, what are the Scarabs based on? There certainly aren't any leg dependant Forerunner machines of even near that size. However, today I noticed something: SCARABS ARE LEKGOLO. Now you might think this is an obsurd idea. However, next time you board and start to kill the generator of a scarab, I beg of you, observe the weak point which must be hit for massive damage CLOSELY. You'll notice that it is composed MOSTLY of the very same worms that Hunters are made from. And in this context, makes sense. After all, the worms have incredible muscular strength, but are extremely vulnerable to even small arms fire, so why not completely encase them in heavy armour?
And note that Lekgolo, according to the Bestarium, can be formed into MANY assemblages of different shape, size, and application. It also says that combat ready hunters are the rarest type.
Havent bothered to check myself though.
Your theory makes sense... How many of those fucking worms does it take to make one though? Wow. Impressive.
Quite re-defining the word sport and this wouldn't be so hard for you. You are considering athletics and sports to be the same thing, and by definition they are not.
People who call pro gamers "cyber-athletes" are idiots, but calling pro gaming a sport is perfectly within the definition of what sport means.
Modern english defines words by their usage. That is, if the general public decides that pro-gaming isn't a sport, or a sport can only be played by atheletes, then its not (See also: the clusterfuck that is the definition of Web 2.0, or why most people call in-line skates Rollerblades). I'm not saying either of you are right or wrong, but posting dictionary.com quotes won't win the argument for anyone.
That aside, Sunday's game of rocket race might have been the funniest moment I've had playing Halo
Quotin cuz those were some seriously fun games and I'm down.
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Great game though; sport or not. I like what they’ve done with the multiplayer levels; I’d go so far as to say they’re quite possibly the best I’ve seen though I haven’t played TF2 yet.
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TF2 is equally awesome, but in an equally different way. Completely different style of gameplay.
Quite re-defining the word sport and this wouldn't be so hard for you. You are considering athletics and sports to be the same thing, and by definition they are not.
People who call pro gamers "cyber-athletes" are idiots, but calling pro gaming a sport is perfectly within the definition of what sport means.
i still don't think i'll ever hear better than "HE STILL WIELDS THE WHACK-STICK!" while chasing down a Grunt with the gravity hammer on Sierra 117
I think ripping you and your comment here a new asshole might be good sport.
c wut i did thar?
Major League Gaming is a gaming competition that's been aired on Sportscenter and TechTV.
It brings some very good presentation with it, and seems to push the 'sport' facet a lot more than the 'gaming' facet. It's not all flashy and cliched as past gaming competitions
They play Halo 2, are amazing at it, and get paid very good money.
The leader of the top clan just bought a new two story house with his winnings
I think certain video games (not all, just the ones that focus more on competition like Halo 3's ranked ladder) are a very viable and the MLG program is a pure example of that. I enjoyed watching it, and the commentary explaining pretty much everything going on a map (like weapon placement, team formations, etc.) was very good.
I laughed when while chasing one of the little guys down he says "Why is he following me?"
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"The demon killed our leader! Run!" and then they all scatter. This is after headshotting someone with the gravity hammer.
I also liked "he's coming to murder us!"
btw, Halo ActionClix are actually awesome, guys.
lulz
... just like me.
Dammit I don't want to do the metagame stuff.
I got booted from an awesome Grav Hammers match last night. I was in second place and it happened right after I said we should all gang up on the guy in the Banshee. I like to think, since it was a PA game, that the connection went bad and everyone got the boot...
by that definition masturbation and television watching are also sports
By definition they are sports. Hell, I'm a professional masturbater. No one can stroke my dick like I can, I should be in the Hall of Masturbation Fame.
It's funny because he kept bitching about wanting my helmet too. He doesn't like my Katana armor though.
If you managed to legitimize competitive masturbating, then yeah, it would be.
Modern english defines words by their usage. That is, if the general public decides that pro-gaming isn't a sport, or a sport can only be played by atheletes, then its not (See also: the clusterfuck that is the definition of Web 2.0, or why most people call in-line skates Rollerblades). I'm not saying either of you are right or wrong, but posting dictionary.com quotes won't win the argument for anyone.
That aside, Sunday's game of rocket race might have been the funniest moment I've had playing Halo
the problem that you are having is that you are taking anything that fulfils ANY definition of the word sport, and declaring them to all be the same.
when a word has multiple meanings, that doesn't mean that things under two different meanings can be considered the ==
Ok so a pleasant passtime is not enough to qualify something as a sport. Is it the fact that you're playing in a virtual world as opposed to a real one the sole aspect of video games that negate them as a sport or is there something else?
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Guys, I have a terrible feeling that the more you keep arguing about this pointless stuff, the closer the mods come to saying "This thread has outlived our purpose" and closing it before that 117 page count.
Do you want to spoil that party for everyone? Do you guys want to be party poopers? Cut it out!
Also: Man .. I got home from class this afternoon and logged in wanting a game of Rocket Race like nothing else. Only one person was online. I was so sad.
I also really want to go looking for all the skulls .. but, I suck at getting to them and I just finished playing through to get all the terminals, so maybe I'll do that later.
Right or left Hayabusa shoulder piece.
Where the hell do you buy the kubricks? I want to get my hands on a set.
I just saw the 4-pack at EB for $20. Green, red, and two other colors I forgot.
I feel like I'm absolutely terrible at MP.
Still I don't get terribly high kill counts, not that I care that much as long as I help my team win, but I require that damn Ascetic armor so I need to get better at Lone Wolf crap. Any tips?
EDIT: I was awesome at Halo 1, always in the top 3 at every Halo event we had on my college campus (which was only among 100or so people) but barely played Halo 2 MP (I didn't live in the dorms anymore and the internet I had was spotty at best).
Even yesterday I was still listed as a 3rd Sargent.
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He was kidding, seriously Birka is not the kind of guy you ever take seriously. Ever.
JOOOUUUST!
Seeing as you fight and board about 4 of them over the course of campaign, we've come to know their ins and outs more significantly. But seeing as the Covenant are practically incapable of building anything more advanced than Tier 4 without copying directly from the Forerunner, one has to wonder, what are the Scarabs based on? There certainly aren't any leg dependant Forerunner machines of even near that size. However, today I noticed something: SCARABS ARE LEKGOLO. Now you might think this is an obsurd idea. However, next time you board and start to kill the generator of a scarab, I beg of you, observe the weak point which must be hit for massive damage CLOSELY. You'll notice that it is composed MOSTLY of the very same worms that Hunters are made from. And in this context, makes sense. After all, the worms have incredible muscular strength, but are extremely vulnerable to even small arms fire, so why not completely encase them in heavy armour?
And note that Lekgolo, according to the Bestarium, can be formed into MANY assemblages of different shape, size, and application. It also says that combat ready hunters are the rarest type.
Havent bothered to check myself though.
- There are only 3 hill points. Two of the mid-section ends and on top of the bridge in the middle.
- It tends to choose one of the two mid-end points more often than the middle of the bridge. (obviously)
- The hill shifts every 30 seconds I think
- If you die in one of the end-points then when you respawn go sit in the other end-point. There's little chance you'll make it back to the first one in time. If you're lucky you'll be sitting in the end-point the hill shifts to.
I'm usually awesome at King on that map but so many people just run at the current hill rather than anticipate the next shift.
But if you were referring to using them in score mode, well that's different.
Your theory makes sense... How many of those fucking worms does it take to make one though? Wow. Impressive.
More like help with locations.
yes, Im being lazy in my faq looking upping.
Quotin cuz those were some seriously fun games and I'm down.
Is it just an achievement thing? I usually don't go out of my way for achievements?
(and whats a "meta-game"?)
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