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Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines: Colons (UNMARKED SPOILERS, BEWARE)
So I recently discovered that there were several unofficial patches with this, and I'm wondering which I should use.
It seems that one is from the planetvampire.com site and has a bunch of added content that the developers worked on but couldn't finish, while the other is from the tessmage.com site and just fixes bugs but doesn't add much.
Get the almost-latest fan patch, available here, here, and here. The latest has a big bug that the guy's fixing right now, so stay away from 4.2. You also need the official 1.2 patch available plenty of places.
Side question, should I play as a normal clan or Malkavian?
I've been up to the sewers on a Tremere playthrough but never finished the game.
Well, since you've already played most of the game as a "normal" clan, you might as well see things from the other side.
I vaguely remember hearing something about one of the fan patches unlocking the backdoor to the warrens. Is that true? Because hot damn if that isn't the best addition anyone could ever hope for in a patch.
If its your first time through, I'd play as a normal clan. Malks are entertaining as all get out when you realize just how far they deviate from the norm.
Also, I'd get the bug fixes naturally, but also theres a mod out there that I really liked. It made all the Tremere spells cost 1 blood point. I played through the Tremere twice, once without and once a year later with. It felt MUCH better going through with that mod. Like there was a reason to get those upper tier abilities. I was real disapointed on my first play through because it felt like the cost was prohibatively high.
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I'm not going to wade into the fan patch/no fan patch debate, because I've played both ways, and I liked both instances.
But I will state that the bug-fix patches are a good idea. I will also highly suggest that when you play through as a Malk (because it is, in fact, mandatory), ensure you enable the whispering voices. It makes playing that much better. And I also agree that a Malk playthrough should be ideally done after playing through the game once.
If its your first time through, I'd play as a normal clan. Malks are entertaining as all get out when you realize just how far they deviate from the norm.
Also, I'd get the bug fixes naturally, but also theres a mod out there that I really liked. It made all the Tremere spells cost 1 blood point. I played through the Tremere twice, once without and once a year later with. It felt MUCH better going through with that mod. Like there was a reason to get those upper tier abilities. I was real disapointed on my first play through because it felt like the cost was prohibatively high.
I've almost finished my first play through as a Tremere and I agree that blood salvo isn't much use at 3 blood, nevermind that dominate plus a good sneak rating is making every encounter a joke. I can suicide everything until there's one guy left and then just trance him to refill.
I am having one game breaking issue though, right at the end:
I'm in the golden temple at the double doors near the water wheel. I'm supposed to be able to push the wooden bar aside but it doesn't work. A little research showed that this isn't a unique glitch, but I can't for the life of me solve the problem. I was planning to play again as a nosferatu anyway, but it looks like I might be doing that sooner than I planned.
I am having one game breaking issue though, right at the end:
I'm in the golden temple at the double doors near the water wheel. I'm supposed to be able to push the wooden bar aside but it doesn't work. A little research showed that this isn't a unique glitch, but I can't for the life of me solve the problem. I was planning to play again as a nosferatu anyway, but it looks like I might be doing that sooner than I planned.
Just noclip through it. I forget the exact command (though it may, in fact, be "noclip"). I got to that, wandered around for 20 minutes, and said "Fuck it" and clipped through it, disabling the cheats on the other side. I only later discovered it was a common glitch.
I am having one game breaking issue though, right at the end:
I'm in the golden temple at the double doors near the water wheel. I'm supposed to be able to push the wooden bar aside but it doesn't work. A little research showed that this isn't a unique glitch, but I can't for the life of me solve the problem. I was planning to play again as a nosferatu anyway, but it looks like I might be doing that sooner than I planned.
Just noclip through it. I forget the exact command (though it may, in fact, be "noclip"). I got to that, wandered around for 20 minutes, and said "Fuck it" and clipped through it, disabling the cheats on the other side. I only later discovered it was a common glitch.
I thought of that, but if there's some magical way of activating the console it's eluding me. There's no entry to map a key to it and futzing about with the keyboard in game isn't producing any good results. Also, I find it hilarious that nosferatu got flagged for spelling but futzing didn't.
I am having one game breaking issue though, right at the end:
I'm in the golden temple at the double doors near the water wheel. I'm supposed to be able to push the wooden bar aside but it doesn't work. A little research showed that this isn't a unique glitch, but I can't for the life of me solve the problem. I was planning to play again as a nosferatu anyway, but it looks like I might be doing that sooner than I planned.
Just noclip through it. I forget the exact command (though it may, in fact, be "noclip"). I got to that, wandered around for 20 minutes, and said "Fuck it" and clipped through it, disabling the cheats on the other side. I only later discovered it was a common glitch.
I thought of that, but if there's some magical way of activating the console it's eluding me. There's no entry to map a key to it and futzing about with the keyboard in game isn't producing any good results. Also, I find it hilarious that nosferatu got flagged for spelling but futzing didn't.
Just remembered. You have to start the game with the "-console" flag enabled, through a shortcut or something. If you're playing through Steam (shame if you're not), just use it to create a Desktop shortcut, and edit that. You can delete it right after if you don't plan on using the console again anyway.
I am having one game breaking issue though, right at the end:
I'm in the golden temple at the double doors near the water wheel. I'm supposed to be able to push the wooden bar aside but it doesn't work. A little research showed that this isn't a unique glitch, but I can't for the life of me solve the problem. I was planning to play again as a nosferatu anyway, but it looks like I might be doing that sooner than I planned.
Just noclip through it. I forget the exact command (though it may, in fact, be "noclip"). I got to that, wandered around for 20 minutes, and said "Fuck it" and clipped through it, disabling the cheats on the other side. I only later discovered it was a common glitch.
I thought of that, but if there's some magical way of activating the console it's eluding me. There's no entry to map a key to it and futzing about with the keyboard in game isn't producing any good results. Also, I find it hilarious that nosferatu got flagged for spelling but futzing didn't.
Just remembered. You have to start the game with the "-console" flag enabled, through a shortcut or something. If you're playing through Steam (shame if you're not), just use it to create a Desktop shortcut, and edit that. You can delete it right after if you don't plan on using the console again anyway.
That worked perfectly, thanks. I am playing through Steam. I saw it while browing the games available (read: checking out the Orange Box) and thought, "I remember reading good things, surely the bugs are cleared up by now."
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cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered Userregular
edited September 2007
Further evidence to support the Malkavians as the definitive clan:
Sure, she's the personality I axed, but that's neither here nor there.
Further evidence to support the Malkavians as the definitive clan:
Sure, she's the personality I axed, but that's neither here nor there.
That whole thing made me :O when I returned after the gallery fight. I hate to admit it but I didn't figure out what was going on until midway through the conversation and I finally asked myself why the camera kept switching points of view.
I've always wanted to play through as a Malk, but... uh... I don't want to do the ghost house again. I can't imagine that place while playing as a raving madman.
God I need to fire up this game again. I quit playing around fan patch 2.2 or so, it's been a while. I generally liiked the fan patches, but mostly because they kept on fixing bugs that did not get fixed by the last official patch. Some of the changes they made were great, others sucked. *shrug* I still want a major boost the .38 because damn that thing is worthless against EVERYTHING even mortals. I'd try it with just the bugfixes first, then with the nearly latest patch, then make up your mind.
I've played through on every clan at least once, but prefer gangrel (it fits me best) or malks (close second).
There is something called the True patch out there, it fixes the bugs in the game but doesn't change anything else (Tube was right on that count, the fan patch changes all this stupid shit and just annoys.)
I used to play this game all the time on my old laptop but I got a new one and it is just not compatible at all with this game. I was swearing for days.
I've always wanted to play through as a Malk, but... uh... I don't want to do the ghost house again. I can't imagine that place while playing as a raving madman.
My first play was as a Malk, and I stopped for some reason what felt like a good long while after that. Anyway, the house gave me the wiggins, but the more I thought about it, that house was probably a normal, everyday occurrence to the Malk. Which is what makes the game pretty damn great in the first place.
First time through as Tremere, second as Malkavian. Malkavian conversations, and other hilarity is definitely worth it, as others have said, on the second playthrough. Besides, you got to love the Dr. Seuss pimp-costume.
The police bondage costume for female malks...meow! Yeah, great game for sure...just a shame about all the gameplay issues. The environment and story rocked, if only they coulda pulled off that quality in the actual gameplay it woulda been a game of the year contender
Also, I'd get the bug fixes naturally, but also theres a mod out there that I really liked. It made all the Tremere spells cost 1 blood point. I played through the Tremere twice, once without and once a year later with. It felt MUCH better going through with that mod. Like there was a reason to get those upper tier abilities. I was real disapointed on my first play through because it felt like the cost was prohibatively high.
So it makes an already unbalanced clan powerful to a degree that is just ridiculous.
If I had millions of dollars, I would seriously resurrect these guys and fund their games TO COMPLETION. If Troika "finished" all of the games they released before they died, they would all be must-own masterpieces, and I'm sure less people would be yelling about the demise of the gaming PC.
Yeah if you thought tremer were weak...ugh, I don't know what to say. Seriously, they have arguably the best combat discipline in the game (Celerity and Fortitude are also damn nice). Blood Boil is freaking great in the hotel level...it'd be just super cheezy to have it only cost 1 point.
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cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered Userregular
edited September 2007
Tremere have Celerity and Fortitude? So much for Auspex and Dominate...
I'll be doing my second playthrough as one, since they're the clan I know the least about.
Thaumaturgy has always been a sick discipline, so that's just the game being true to source material.
I tried so hard to get into this game, but I have the same problem with it as I do with... well, I won't give the name of the series of books because I'll get lynched. Essentially the problem is that it doesn't grab interest as a product itself. It's great to talk and read about, but I just found myself not playing it after the first couple of times I fired up the game.
If I had millions of dollars, I would seriously resurrect these guys and fund their games TO COMPLETION. If Troika "finished" all of the games they released before they died, they would all be must-own masterpieces, and I'm sure less people would be yelling about the demise of the gaming PC.
I'm still waiting for Arcanum 2 and Bloodlines 2, dammit!
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I am right and Tube is wrong.
I disagree, considering they made the only single player RPG thats actually fun to play that isn't Oblivion, in recent memory.
The one i currently have loaded claimed to have added a bunch of quests and dialog but i didnt see any.
I've been up to the sewers on a Tremere playthrough but never finished the game.
I vaguely remember hearing something about one of the fan patches unlocking the backdoor to the warrens. Is that true? Because hot damn if that isn't the best addition anyone could ever hope for in a patch.
Also, I'd get the bug fixes naturally, but also theres a mod out there that I really liked. It made all the Tremere spells cost 1 blood point. I played through the Tremere twice, once without and once a year later with. It felt MUCH better going through with that mod. Like there was a reason to get those upper tier abilities. I was real disapointed on my first play through because it felt like the cost was prohibatively high.
But I will state that the bug-fix patches are a good idea. I will also highly suggest that when you play through as a Malk (because it is, in fact, mandatory), ensure you enable the whispering voices. It makes playing that much better. And I also agree that a Malk playthrough should be ideally done after playing through the game once.
You should play as a Malkav.
I've almost finished my first play through as a Tremere and I agree that blood salvo isn't much use at 3 blood, nevermind that dominate plus a good sneak rating is making every encounter a joke. I can suicide everything until there's one guy left and then just trance him to refill.
I am having one game breaking issue though, right at the end:
I thought of that, but if there's some magical way of activating the console it's eluding me. There's no entry to map a key to it and futzing about with the keyboard in game isn't producing any good results. Also, I find it hilarious that nosferatu got flagged for spelling but futzing didn't.
Just remembered. You have to start the game with the "-console" flag enabled, through a shortcut or something. If you're playing through Steam (shame if you're not), just use it to create a Desktop shortcut, and edit that. You can delete it right after if you don't plan on using the console again anyway.
The malkavian ones include
"Ninja."
and
"Completely batshit."
that is all.
That worked perfectly, thanks. I am playing through Steam. I saw it while browing the games available (read: checking out the Orange Box) and thought, "I remember reading good things, surely the bugs are cleared up by now."
Sure, she's the personality I axed, but that's neither here nor there.
That whole thing made me :O when I returned after the gallery fight. I hate to admit it but I didn't figure out what was going on until midway through the conversation and I finally asked myself why the camera kept switching points of view.
I've played through on every clan at least once, but prefer gangrel (it fits me best) or malks (close second).
I used to play this game all the time on my old laptop but I got a new one and it is just not compatible at all with this game. I was swearing for days.
I think it is actually a specific stop sign you talk to, not just any one. Off the top of my head, try the ones Downtown.
My first play was as a Malk, and I stopped for some reason what felt like a good long while after that. Anyway, the house gave me the wiggins, but the more I thought about it, that house was probably a normal, everyday occurrence to the Malk. Which is what makes the game pretty damn great in the first place.
Of course that was with my ATI card. I think I might have to try another playthrough with my 8800GTX and see if it's doable.
Seriously though, this game is amazing. And the haunted house had to be one of the best moments in gaming history.
It always still reminds me of Morrowind though in that "if it only had a combat system that didn't blow, it would be the perfect game" kind of way.
First time through as Tremere, second as Malkavian. Malkavian conversations, and other hilarity is definitely worth it, as others have said, on the second playthrough. Besides, you got to love the Dr. Seuss pimp-costume.
So it makes an already unbalanced clan powerful to a degree that is just ridiculous.
If I had millions of dollars, I would seriously resurrect these guys and fund their games TO COMPLETION. If Troika "finished" all of the games they released before they died, they would all be must-own masterpieces, and I'm sure less people would be yelling about the demise of the gaming PC.
I'll be doing my second playthrough as one, since they're the clan I know the least about.
Thaumaturgy has always been a sick discipline, so that's just the game being true to source material.
I loved the atmosphere and story of this game though. It's a damn shame that they couldn't have a Blizzard timetable to just get shit rocking.