I was the one who originally bumped this thread (like a week ago) didn't think it would catch on again....
Anyhow, Im playing a Gangrel with pretty much maxed out fists and doing well, I think I hate the look of my character though (I wasn't aware that you could switch your looks at creation and im still not sure if (or how) you can. Any file i can go into or anything to switch my looks, the Gangrel idea is cool, the looks of the default model....not so much
You can't switch your character model without modding the game. The only differences are clans and sex. You can change your armour though. I really wish all the nosferatu armours weren't so fucking stupid
You can't switch your character model without modding the game. The only differences are clans and sex. You can change your armour though. I really wish all the nosferatu armours weren't so fucking stupid
Maybe the chessmaster who sends you the emails is VV. But Tube, I hear you cry, VV is a fucking moron! Is she? Go back and have a look at her mission set and tell me (other than XP which has no in universe meaning) what you got out of it. Because it looks a lot like she gets exactly what she wants without ever leaving the club in exchange for sending the PC a bad poem. If there's one character in the game who is pretending to be dumber than they are, it's VV. Unlike Jack, the main suspect, it doesn't seem totally out of character for her either.
Two bad poems, actually. And a poster. And a free snack on one of the dancing girls if you play your cards right. And a signed photo you can sell for about 250 bucks to the Red Spot guy.
Which amounts to... still pretty much zilch, really.
I did this on my Malkavian on my first playthrough of the game when I didn't really know what I was doing so you vets really shouldn't be having issues with it.
It's impossible without Celerity.
And Malkavians don't get Celerity - so did BI do it via pimping, or by being some unholy insane vampire god?
I beat the shit out of zombies. If you can't do this without Celerity then you are either insanely gimped for any type of combat or...something I won't say cause I don't feel like getting infracted for flaming/personal attacks.
This quest is by no means impossible without Celerity.
It is almost impossible in vanilla (I wonder if the fan patch tweaks it downwards, because the guy above who said he beat it first time as a malk is either full of shit or very lucky) but really the response to that is just "don't do the quest" not "the computer is cheating!"
It is almost impossible in vanilla (I wonder if the fan patch tweaks it downwards, because the guy above who said he beat it first time as a malk is either full of shit or very lucky) but really the response to that is just "don't do the quest" not "the computer is cheating!"
I bought this game on steam, and had no fanpatches and didn't even have backgrounds enabled the first time I played it. I bought it because of constantly reading this thread and the lets play of this game way back when...Saw it on steam for 10 bucks one halloween, bought it, played the Malkavian because of the famous argument with a stop sign.... and I beat it on my first try. It is straight up not impossible
Im kind of amazed, maybe im missing something, but there doesnt seem to be all that much different with this new patch, Ive not encountered anything that I don't recall from earlier vanilla incarnation. If there are bugs fixed I never recalled coming across any significant bugs at all.
Is there anything substantial that the fan patch changed? I was hoping for some cut content or new characters.
I thought that cemetary was easy...and I did it without celerity. I would just go back and forth between the two gates, killing whatever zombies that were close to the gates. I would ignore any that weren't close.
Well I'm glad I wasn't the only person that had a really hard time with that quest
Fortunately I usually have my social stats boosted way up so I didn't ever need to kill the zombies, although if you're a completionist I don't think there's anywhere else you can pick up the rifle Romero gives you.
I've got to say you guys got lucky then, although you obviously played it very well too. The spawns are random and it's entirely possible to get spawns that make it impossible to finish the quest.
You can change your armour though. I really wish all the nosferatu armours weren't so fucking stupid
The gimp armor was actually one of my favorite parts of playing a Nos.
I couldn't really figure out why they were wearing it though. I mean most of the other Nosferatus in the game were just wearing normal clothes. Bertram was wearing, like, bum clothes or something, Gary was wearing an old tux, the nosferatu you rescue from Ming was just wearing jeans and a t-shirt. I think maybe mitnick and imalia wore something similar but still it seems to me that someone who got turned into something awful like a nosferatu would try to compensate by wearing fairly normal clothes instead of jock straps and bondage gear.
You can change your armour though. I really wish all the nosferatu armours weren't so fucking stupid
The gimp armor was actually one of my favorite parts of playing a Nos.
I couldn't really figure out why they were wearing it though. I mean most of the other Nosferatus in the game were just wearing normal clothes. Bertram was wearing, like, bum clothes or something, Gary was wearing an old tux, the nosferatu you rescue from Ming was just wearing jeans and a t-shirt. I think maybe mitnick and imalia wore something similar but still it seems to me that someone who got turned into something awful like a nosferatu would try to compensate by wearing fairly normal clothes instead of jock straps and bondage gear.
I always took it to be kind of a defence to being spoted. You see an ugly hideous creature wearing a white t-shirt and blue jeans, you remember that he was a snagle toothed nightmare. You see some one in S&M gear with a full mask on, running through a back alley, you may be more fixated on the fact that some creepy bastard is running around in gimp gear...
I always took it to be kind of a defence to being spoted. You see an ugly hideous creature wearing a white t-shirt and blue jeans, you remember that he was a snagle toothed nightmare. You see some one in S&M gear with a full mask on, running through a back alley, you may be more fixated on the fact that some creepy bastard is running around in gimp gear...
The weird thing was that by the end of the game with the heavy armor the Nosferatus were so covered up they wouldn't even really be a Masquerade violation.
Although people would probably call the cops anyway.
Some of the NPC reactions to the nosferatu are hilarious, though. If you talk to the pothead pawn shop owner, Trip, as a Nos he thinks you're just somebody really into crazy body modification that just got back from Burning Man or something.
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Well I'm glad I wasn't the only person that had a really hard time with that quest
Fortunately I usually have my social stats boosted way up so I didn't ever need to kill the zombies, although if you're a completionist I don't think there's anywhere else you can pick up the rifle Romero gives you.
You get it later, from Trip if I recall correctly.
Well I'm glad I wasn't the only person that had a really hard time with that quest
Fortunately I usually have my social stats boosted way up so I didn't ever need to kill the zombies, although if you're a completionist I don't think there's anywhere else you can pick up the rifle Romero gives you.
You get it later, from Trip if I recall correctly.
It's just kind of annoying from an immersion point of view because even with the value of "oh that guy looks weird because he's an S&M freak" you're still making yourself more visible and more likely to be looked at. If the character just wore tramp clothes and a hoody he'd look pretty normal til you got up close
Aus is neat looking, but guns aren't really good enough to bother with, so aus becomes mainly useless.
Thaum is tons of fun, but is fairly resource intensive, for instance Blood Boil is the most bad ass way of killing a guy in the game, but uses waaaay too much vitae. Some of the lower level powers are decent, but generally not as effective as hitting something with your sword or draining it dry.
Dominate on the other hand is a combat monster. You either use it as crowd control to stun additional enemies while you beat up their friends, or you stun them long enough to drain them dry, and really the game favors the "keep trying to feed until it's dead" strategy so much that the relevant skills are some of the best points you can invest in. Dominate just makes feed easier and more effective, since you'll basically never run out of vitae.
Drinking blood is a little bit broken (not exactly, but having a hard time coming up with a word here) in this game because so much combat revolves around it. I always imagined my dude was engorged like a leech after every big firefight where I had to drain ten or fifteen dudes.
I also thought it was nothing short of miraculous how I managed to drain all those gangbangers and other lowlifes without picking up some sort of bloodborn disease.
It is almost impossible in vanilla (I wonder if the fan patch tweaks it downwards, because the guy above who said he beat it first time as a malk is either full of shit or very lucky) but really the response to that is just "don't do the quest" not "the computer is cheating!"
Not lying man. I'm pretty sure I came very close to failing, but I did it on my first try.
Is there any more info about the cut Tremere library/archives section? Is it the building across the Ventrue Tower? I've heard that they cut out a library, but I didn't know it was a Tremere library.
Is there any more info about the cut Tremere library/archives section? Is it the building across the Ventrue Tower? I've heard that they cut out a library, but I didn't know it was a Tremere library.
It's supposedly the building surrounded by the wrought-iron fence (the fence posts are topped with gargoyles) near LaCroix's tower. On the old Bloodlines website it talked a lot about how Downtown was dominated by Tremere buildings and all kinds of creepy occult stuff and it was presumably part of that (the only other Tremere building in town is the Chantry), although I have no idea what was actually supposed to be in it. IIRC there was another area/dungeon cut as well but I forget what it was.
This all presumably happened pretty early in development, because there's no voice logs in the game files for any potential characters who might have been at the library. However, there is a book in the Tremere chantry which describes some Tremere creatures like Homunculi which didn't have anything to do with the rest of the game, so maybe that had something to do with what it would have been.
I did this on my Malkavian on my first playthrough of the game when I didn't really know what I was doing so you vets really shouldn't be having issues with it.
It's impossible without Celerity.
And Malkavians don't get Celerity - so did BI do it via pimping, or by being some unholy insane vampire god?
I beat the shit out of zombies. If you can't do this without Celerity then you are either insanely gimped for any type of combat or...something I won't say cause I don't feel like getting infracted for flaming/personal attacks.
This quest is by no means impossible without Celerity.
That quest is exceedingly random, at least thats the way it felt for me. First time I did it was with a tremere, did it in a single attempt. Next time I did it with celerity, again one shot. I think it took twice when I went through as a malk. Last time I went through as a tremere again, I tried 5 or 6 times and couldnt do it. Said screw it and went and got him a hooker instead. Lost one of them with under 10 seconds left. Very frustrating to spend 5 minutes messing around in there and lose.
I think my main issue with the entire thaumaturgy line was how limited blood strike/salvo was. You cant move, attack or kill with it or you dont get your blood back. If you do wait for your blood to come back it IS exceedingly low DPS. I just find it disappointing that I could take an enemy out with a katana in 3 or 4 seconds for no blood and there is no benefit to using thaumaturgy instead. Blood Purge/Strike combos are really, really good on enemies who give you issues though. And they work on EVERYTHING. To the point it was so easy it felt like cheating. Walk up to the boss, press IWIN button.
Tremere is probably my favorite clan, just felt like they could have picked better mechanics and powers for them.
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Aus is neat looking, but guns aren't really good enough to bother with, so aus becomes mainly useless.
Thaum is tons of fun, but is fairly resource intensive, for instance Blood Boil is the most bad ass way of killing a guy in the game, but uses waaaay too much vitae. Some of the lower level powers are decent, but generally not as effective as hitting something with your sword or draining it dry.
Dominate on the other hand is a combat monster. You either use it as crowd control to stun additional enemies while you beat up their friends, or you stun them long enough to drain them dry, and really the game favors the "keep trying to feed until it's dead" strategy so much that the relevant skills are some of the best points you can invest in. Dominate just makes feed easier and more effective, since you'll basically never run out of vitae.
Love me some Tremere.
I was pretty impressed by the dominate skills when I played through my second tremere too. Felt like I got more milage out of that than the thaumaturgy.
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Anyhow, Im playing a Gangrel with pretty much maxed out fists and doing well, I think I hate the look of my character though (I wasn't aware that you could switch your looks at creation and im still not sure if (or how) you can. Any file i can go into or anything to switch my looks, the Gangrel idea is cool, the looks of the default model....not so much
I dunno, im not a PnP person, whatever it is that Im putting points into to raise stuff like charisma.
Personally I thought the Gangrel was one of the better models and had the best armor design for both genders but that was just me.
Which amounts to... still pretty much zilch, really.
I beat the shit out of zombies. If you can't do this without Celerity then you are either insanely gimped for any type of combat or...something I won't say cause I don't feel like getting infracted for flaming/personal attacks.
This quest is by no means impossible without Celerity.
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The game is pretty much cheating in making it impossible, Ive not done that quest in about 5 playthroughs.
I bought this game on steam, and had no fanpatches and didn't even have backgrounds enabled the first time I played it. I bought it because of constantly reading this thread and the lets play of this game way back when...Saw it on steam for 10 bucks one halloween, bought it, played the Malkavian because of the famous argument with a stop sign.... and I beat it on my first try. It is straight up not impossible
Sixty -40- on Origin for some ME3 goodness.
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Is there anything substantial that the fan patch changed? I was hoping for some cut content or new characters.
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Fortunately I usually have my social stats boosted way up so I didn't ever need to kill the zombies, although if you're a completionist I don't think there's anywhere else you can pick up the rifle Romero gives you.
I've got to say you guys got lucky then, although you obviously played it very well too. The spawns are random and it's entirely possible to get spawns that make it impossible to finish the quest.
I couldn't really figure out why they were wearing it though. I mean most of the other Nosferatus in the game were just wearing normal clothes. Bertram was wearing, like, bum clothes or something, Gary was wearing an old tux, the nosferatu you rescue from Ming was just wearing jeans and a t-shirt. I think maybe mitnick and imalia wore something similar but still it seems to me that someone who got turned into something awful like a nosferatu would try to compensate by wearing fairly normal clothes instead of jock straps and bondage gear.
I always took it to be kind of a defence to being spoted. You see an ugly hideous creature wearing a white t-shirt and blue jeans, you remember that he was a snagle toothed nightmare. You see some one in S&M gear with a full mask on, running through a back alley, you may be more fixated on the fact that some creepy bastard is running around in gimp gear...
Although people would probably call the cops anyway.
Some of the NPC reactions to the nosferatu are hilarious, though. If you talk to the pothead pawn shop owner, Trip, as a Nos he thinks you're just somebody really into crazy body modification that just got back from Burning Man or something.
You get it later, from Trip if I recall correctly.
Mercurio I'm pretty sure.
Aus is neat looking, but guns aren't really good enough to bother with, so aus becomes mainly useless.
Thaum is tons of fun, but is fairly resource intensive, for instance Blood Boil is the most bad ass way of killing a guy in the game, but uses waaaay too much vitae. Some of the lower level powers are decent, but generally not as effective as hitting something with your sword or draining it dry.
Dominate on the other hand is a combat monster. You either use it as crowd control to stun additional enemies while you beat up their friends, or you stun them long enough to drain them dry, and really the game favors the "keep trying to feed until it's dead" strategy so much that the relevant skills are some of the best points you can invest in. Dominate just makes feed easier and more effective, since you'll basically never run out of vitae.
Love me some Tremere.
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I also thought it was nothing short of miraculous how I managed to drain all those gangbangers and other lowlifes without picking up some sort of bloodborn disease.
Not lying man. I'm pretty sure I came very close to failing, but I did it on my first try.
This all presumably happened pretty early in development, because there's no voice logs in the game files for any potential characters who might have been at the library. However, there is a book in the Tremere chantry which describes some Tremere creatures like Homunculi which didn't have anything to do with the rest of the game, so maybe that had something to do with what it would have been.
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That quest is exceedingly random, at least thats the way it felt for me. First time I did it was with a tremere, did it in a single attempt. Next time I did it with celerity, again one shot. I think it took twice when I went through as a malk. Last time I went through as a tremere again, I tried 5 or 6 times and couldnt do it. Said screw it and went and got him a hooker instead. Lost one of them with under 10 seconds left. Very frustrating to spend 5 minutes messing around in there and lose.
I think my main issue with the entire thaumaturgy line was how limited blood strike/salvo was. You cant move, attack or kill with it or you dont get your blood back. If you do wait for your blood to come back it IS exceedingly low DPS. I just find it disappointing that I could take an enemy out with a katana in 3 or 4 seconds for no blood and there is no benefit to using thaumaturgy instead. Blood Purge/Strike combos are really, really good on enemies who give you issues though. And they work on EVERYTHING. To the point it was so easy it felt like cheating. Walk up to the boss, press IWIN button.
Tremere is probably my favorite clan, just felt like they could have picked better mechanics and powers for them.
I was pretty impressed by the dominate skills when I played through my second tremere too. Felt like I got more milage out of that than the thaumaturgy.