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I like a Girl who's in an... INTERESTING line of work

Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
edited October 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
Ok, tonight was my first time hosting my show on the college radio station. My co-host is a girl who I didn't know previously, but started some idle chit-chat with during the couple weeks of training prior to tonight. We got along very well and even though I don't know a whole lot about her yet, she seems very cool. She's a bit older than me (I'm a sophomore, she's a junior but young for her grade), very sweet, got a good sense of humor, and just seems like an all-around good person. I really like her, though I didn't know how she felt about me.

All of a sudden, before the time slot assignments, she asks if I would like to co-host with her. This is really cool, so we start discussing times. She says she can't do it Tuesday or Thursday because she works really late (each show is only once a week). I ask where she works, and she just replies "It's a long story." So I drop it.

Well tonight in the studio, we're talking during a really long music set, and she decides to tell me where she works. She's been living on her own and financially independent for a couple years now, so obviously she needs something that pays well. Long story short?

She's a stripper. At the really high-class club (as far as these things go) here in Columbia.

So... I really like her and it seems like she might like me as well. But I honestly don't know the wisdom of dating a girl who takes off her clothes for money (this is why she broke up with her last boyfriend just last week - he kept freaking out about it).

tl;dr: I'm in love (not really) with a stripper. Go for it, or stay hella far away from anything more than friendship?

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  • MC MysteryMC Mystery Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Go for it.

    Haha, I don't man. I guess it really depends on how serious things would be, and if you'd be bothered by that sort of thing?

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  • Dulcius_ex_asperisDulcius_ex_asperis Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    does that bother you that she's a stripper, or do you just see it as a job like any other?

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Well I doubt it would progress past casual dating. As for my reaction - I don't know. I mean, it's a legit club, so I imagine it's a safe environment if nothing else - I'd be seriously worried if she worked at some biker bar out on I-26. It could be way worse - she could be a prostitute. Don't most clubs basically have a "look, don't touch" rule? Like, the one whole club I ever went to was hands-off.

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    does that bother you that she's a stripper, or do you just see it as a job like any other?

    At this point I just see it as a job. When she told me I wasn't like "OMG WUT". I just kinda laughed and said something like wow, you don't hear that every day. Then we had a really brief, casual discussion about it. Of course, once you start dating someone you often tend to think of them as "yours" and I imagine I might have some issues at that point.

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  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    As long as she keeps it as just a job, and doesn't get involved with the "side" businesses of being in adult entertainment I don't see the problem. She's not a porn star.

    That's if she keeps it professional, but you would know better than I.

    If you judge her for it, even a little. It might just be too much, and it's best to stay friends (or become them, if you're not). If it doesn't truly bother you, nothing to lose!

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  • kitchkitch Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Ha, oh boy. I work at this radio station.

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I just had a terribly chauvinistic thought that I should stop by the club sometime so I can get a look at the "merchandise" if you will before I commit.

    God, I hate myself for thinking that.

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  • Dulcius_ex_asperisDulcius_ex_asperis Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Yeah, if you think it'd bother you later on, don't get involved with her now. But I mean, get to know her. If she's cool, you have a friend and possibly someone you could date.

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    kitch wrote: »
    Ha, oh boy. I work at this radio station.

    Wait, whoa, what?

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  • kitchkitch Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    kitch wrote: »
    Ha, oh boy. I work at this radio station.

    Wait, whoa, what?

    Your friendly, neighborhood music director :)

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    kitch wrote: »
    kitch wrote: »
    Ha, oh boy. I work at this radio station.

    Wait, whoa, what?

    Your friendly, neighborhood music director :)

    Check your PMs.

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I do not recommend showing up at the club to check out the merchandise as you put it, if you plan to pursue this. She might, you know, see that as rude.

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    I do not recommend showing up at the club to check out the merchandise as you put it, if you plan to pursue this. She might, you know, see that as rude.

    Yeah, I didn't actually consider it. It was mostly my brain fucking with me anyway, trying to get me to do something stupid.

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  • AresProphetAresProphet Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    I do not recommend showing up at the club to check out the merchandise as you put it, if you plan to pursue this. She might, you know, see that as rude.

    This man gives good advice.

    A friend of mine started dating a stripper about a month after he and his wife divorced. He decided it'd be fun to visit his new girlfriend at work.

    He complained a lot about how she didn't pay attention to him while he was there, and how awkward it was to see other guys looking at her. He stopped going to see her at work, and as far as I know they're still dating after six months. So it can work out.

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  • DrFrylockDrFrylock Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Stolen:

    Many (not all) of these women have problems such as substance abuse, negative sexual histories, low self-esteem or mental illnesses. Very few women originally want to be strippers, and those who are often are because of adverse circumstances. While your potential date may be perfectly healthy and unharmed, she may also have lots of emotional baggage. Be prepared to be supportive, or don't get involved.

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  • trentsteeltrentsteel Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    does that bother you that she's a stripper, or do you just see it as a job like any other?

    . Of course, once you start dating someone you often tend to think of them as "yours" and I imagine I might have some issues at that point.

    Based on what you just said there, NO. Do her a favor and do not date her.

    It takes a special kind of brain to date a stripper and you do not have it. You are going to turn into her ex-boyfriend.

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  • TrowizillaTrowizilla Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    She's a stripper, not a leper. It sounds like she's got her head together, and it's really hard to beat stripping when you want money and flexible hours. If you can accept that she takes her clothes off in front of strangers and that it's only a job, go for it. However, if you have the slightest tendency to be jealous, you shouldn't try to date her, more for her sake than yours.

    I'd stay out of her club anyway. Most people find it annoying when friends come to bother them at work, let alone people who work naked, and she might feel awkward. Besides, strippers make money from spending time with paying customers, and you'd be using up her attention and a seat.

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  • trentsteeltrentsteel Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    If she wants you to see her show she will ask you to come.

    But, no, don't date her. I think you will quickly turn into the insanely jealous type.

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  • RaggaholicRaggaholic Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    DrFrylock wrote: »
    Many (not all) of these women have problems such as substance abuse, negative sexual histories, low self-esteem or mental illnesses. Very few women originally want to be strippers, and those who are often are because of adverse circumstances. While your potential date may be perfectly healthy and unharmed, she may also have lots of emotional baggage.
    Be careful. I've NEVER heard of a relationship with a stripper ending well, despite how well and put together you think she is. When I was in college, I dated one for a while (who was also at IU) and she turned out to be crazy.

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  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    There are exclusions to every rule, she may be it.

    If it ends badly, what is the worst that could happen?


    If you don't shoot you can't score.

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  • SamSam Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Well I doubt it would progress past casual dating. As for my reaction - I don't know. I mean, it's a legit club, so I imagine it's a safe environment if nothing else - I'd be seriously worried if she worked at some biker bar out on I-26. It could be way worse - she could be a prostitute. Don't most clubs basically have a "look, don't touch" rule? Like, the one whole club I ever went to was hands-off.

    the one strip club i have been to (in a college town in Kansas) definitely didn't enforce such a policy if they had one to begin with.
    As in, the strippers touch you. Like in Soviet Russia.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Do you think you could ever go to the club and watch her and some other girls dance and not freak out?
    I'm not familiar with the clubs up there, is this a topless, a fully nude, a pasties required sort of deal? Does any of this even matter to you?

    I'm dating someone who stripped sometimes, never did it for more than a few months at a time. Heres the kicker tho, she works for a fetish fashion performance group. I've seen the majority of her friends butt naked here and there. I've seen her spank and whip men who then tip her. I think it's pretty cool. She's awesome, her friends are awesome, and I trust her 100% to be with only me. I've never gotten anything to say otherwise.

    Oh, and for the love of God, being a stripper does not mean she is more free sexually. It does not mean she will sleep with you sonner, give you blow jobs in the car, or let you put it in her butt.
    She might, but being a stripper is not a sign of any of this.

    As for you dating her and it not being official yet (from the sounds of it you just like her and nothings been done), she told you she is a stripper. That's not something alot of girls will tell a guy. I'd take that as a good sign and as her way of testing you.

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  • supabeastsupabeast Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Don’t even try it. Strippers are crazy—they’re like flight attendants on meth. To say that those relationships always go sour is a great understatement.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    supabeast wrote: »
    Don’t even try it. Strippers are crazy—they’re like flight attendants on meth. To say that those relationships always go sour is a great understatement.

    Well... no.
    Not true.
    Blacks commit violent crimes? To say that this is true is to be racist. Why isn't saying that strippers are like crazy flight attendants on meth who can't have a solid relationship not so offensive?
    Who the fuck knows. Either way, it's wrong. You can have a real, solid, healthy relationship with a stripper.
    Don't let the job define the person.

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  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Sam wrote: »
    Well I doubt it would progress past casual dating. As for my reaction - I don't know. I mean, it's a legit club, so I imagine it's a safe environment if nothing else - I'd be seriously worried if she worked at some biker bar out on I-26. It could be way worse - she could be a prostitute. Don't most clubs basically have a "look, don't touch" rule? Like, the one whole club I ever went to was hands-off.

    the one strip club i have been to (in a college town in Kansas) definitely didn't enforce such a policy if they had one to begin with.
    As in, the strippers touch you. Like in Soviet Russia.

    Yes, they touch you..but if you were to try and touch them you would find yourself being quickly escorted out of the building and possibly get your ass kicked by the bouncers. That is the look but don't touch rule.

    I say, if the 2 of you like each other then go for it and have fun. Just because she's a stripper doesn't mean shes automatically a bad person. If I were a girl and had the body for it I would be a stripper in a heartbeat. I can almost assure you that she will be able to graduate from college without a penny of debt, strippers in good clubs make ridiculously good money.

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  • GorgeeenGorgeeen __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    supabeast wrote: »
    Don’t even try it. Strippers are crazy—they’re like flight attendants on meth. To say that those relationships always go sour is a great understatement.

    Well... no.
    Not true.
    Blacks commit violent crimes? To say that this is true is to be racist.

    Yes, because a black has never committed a violent crime. Ever.


    Please... Blacks commit violent crimes just like any members of any race commit violent crimes. I think the OP should try to get to know this girl a little better before he decides to get involved in anything.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    supabeast wrote: »
    Don’t even try it. Strippers are crazy—they’re like flight attendants on meth. To say that those relationships always go sour is a great understatement.

    Well... no.
    Not true.
    Blacks commit violent crimes? To say that this is true is to be racist. Why isn't saying that strippers are like crazy flight attendants on meth who can't have a solid relationship not so offensive?
    Who the fuck knows. Either way, it's wrong. You can have a real, solid, healthy relationship with a stripper.
    Don't let the job define the person.

    Depends how you phrase it. In this particular instance, supabeast is full of shit and a jackass because he phrased it as a universal claim. There are strippers who aren't crazy meth/crack/coke-addicts who have major issues stemming from unpleasant pasts and the unpleasantness of a lot of particular establishments in the industry, but not all establishments are like that and not all strippers are nutjobs. However, acknowledging that statistically there's a higher probability of these things isn't wrong and if it offends someone, well, tough shit, it's stupid to deny reality for the sake of protecting the feelings of sheltered people.

    Since greyghost knows this girl personally in his case it would be smartest to just ignore the trends and focus on the individual, because when you know someone personally you won't need a statistic to tell you whether or not they're a psychotic coke-fiend. Statistics aren't a good basis for deciding who to date and who not to date, even though they are just about the only way to do sociological research. But dating isn't sociological research unless you're a really fucked up individual.

    Edit: And if anyone else talks about violent crime per race statistics in this thread they're getting an infraction. It's irrelevant.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Since greyghost knows this girl personally in his case it would be smartest to just ignore the trends and focus on the individual, because when you know someone personally you won't need a statistic to tell you whether or not they're a psychotic coke-fiend. Statistics aren't a good basis for deciding who to date and who not to date, even though they are just about the only way to do sociological research. But dating isn't sociological research unless you're a really fucked up individual.

    Race thing noted, understood, and moved on.

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  • FellhandFellhand Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    What does her line of work matter? If you were a garbage man or a mortician would you appreciate the associated stigmata that comes with said occupations?

    It's her job. It's not her life. If she's fucking on the side to make some extra bank then I'd take issue with that, but if stripping is just her job it's just her job.

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  • Not SarastroNot Sarastro __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    Trowizilla wrote: »
    She's a stripper, not a leper.

    ...and to all the recieved wisdom people re: olol i no so meny peepl dated stripper it NEVER work out, just go away and babble to yourself quietly in the corner. That some girl screwed your mate over is no indication that this girl will screw the OP over, just because they have the same job.

    OP, I suspect the fact you are asking this question might mean it's a bad idea. But at least ask yourself why it is even an issue? I don't really see this thread being made if she had said she was an art-class model.

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  • ShamusShamus Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Sounds like she just might be doing it to pay for school? That's not that uncommon.

    Go for it, dude. At least you'll have the story that you dated a stripper.

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Look, if you like the girl and can get over the fact that everyone will see your girlfriend naked, go for it.

    It might not last. It might not end up being a healthy relationship in the end. But, it's an experience.

    It's not like you're interested in dating a yak or anything.

    Strippers are people, too.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    It's an interesting job, but that doesn't mean she would be a bad girlfriend. Some guys are overly possessive, and dislike the idea of anyone looking at their [strike]property[/strike]girlfriend. That includes even if they have their clothes on.

    However, that doesn't mean she will make a bad girlfriend. If you're not against the idea of other guys looking at her naked, WHEN you become more serious and WHEN she's out of college and has a real job, worry about it then. Most problems crop up when a girl refuses to stop stripping after having a "regular" job, or when they would rather strip full-time rather than finish school or take a "regular" job. That's rare, though -- most girls tolerate the job because it pays well, and the massive churn corresponds quite well with what most patrons prefer -- new faces/bodies.

    So, due to the fact that she was not all that open about it (aka she didn't blurt out "i strip, oh nice to meet you"), and she's comfortable enough to tell you about it, I'd say ask her out on a night when she's not working. Avoid the job as a conversation piece, unless she brings it up.

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  • GlyphGlyph Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    But is she a good stripper?

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  • blincolnblincoln Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    DrFrylock wrote: »
    Many (not all) of these women have problems such as substance abuse, negative sexual histories, low self-esteem or mental illnesses. Very few women originally want to be strippers, and those who are often are because of adverse circumstances. While your potential date may be perfectly healthy and unharmed, she may also have lots of emotional baggage.

    Limed again.

    The thing about working as a stripper is that even someone who starts out being relatively normal is going to end up working with a bunch of other girls who have problems in an environment that tends to warp their personalities, especially with regards to how they relate to men. Stimulant abuse is a major issue to watch out for in strippers.

    My recommendation would be that dating an *ex*-stripper would be okay (assuming she was not turned into a meth-addict psycho by the experience, obviously), but dating someone who is *currently* stripping is not a good idea.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    blincoln wrote: »
    DrFrylock wrote: »
    Many (not all) of these women have problems such as substance abuse, negative sexual histories, low self-esteem or mental illnesses. Very few women originally want to be strippers, and those who are often are because of adverse circumstances. While your potential date may be perfectly healthy and unharmed, she may also have lots of emotional baggage.

    Limed again.

    The thing about working as a stripper is that even someone who starts out being relatively normal is going to end up working with a bunch of other girls who have problems in an environment that tends to warp their personalities, especially with regards to how they relate to men. Stimulant abuse is a major issue to watch out for in strippers.

    My recommendation would be that dating an *ex*-stripper would be okay (assuming she was not turned into a meth-addict psycho by the experience, obviously), but dating someone who is *currently* stripping is not a good idea.

    So how many strippers or ex-strippers do you know?

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  • FireflashFireflash Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Glyph wrote: »
    But is she a good stripper?

    How the fuck is this even relevent to this thread?


    Anyways, to the OP, you know yourself better than we do. Did you have jealousy issues with previous girlfriends? Can you handle the fact that a bunch of horny men are staring at your would-be girlfriend like a piece of meat?

    If you honestly don't think you are a jealous kind of guy, go for it and don't let a part-time job define who she is as a person.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2007
    kitch wrote: »
    kitch wrote: »
    Ha, oh boy. I work at this radio station.

    Wait, whoa, what?

    Your friendly, neighborhood music director :)

    This thread turned awesome.

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  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Doc wrote: »
    kitch wrote: »
    kitch wrote: »
    Ha, oh boy. I work at this radio station.

    Wait, whoa, what?

    Your friendly, neighborhood music director :)

    This thread turned awesome.

    First, this is amazing.


    Second, she's just a stripper. It's just a job. I've known a few girls who stripped to pay their way through college (much fewer hours for a lot more money).

    My advice is to see if she wants to go out. Don't go "check out the goods", that's rude and retarded. If she wants to go out, take it casually, no big deal. However, I think you need to be up front with her the second you want it to turn more seriously. If you think you'll have a problem with your GIRLFRIEND stripping, then you need to be honest with her so you two can discuss it.

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    edited October 2007
    There are strippers who aren't crazy meth/crack/coke-addicts who have major issues stemming from unpleasant pasts and the unpleasantness of a lot of particular establishments in the industry, but not all establishments are like that and not all strippers are nutjobs. However, acknowledging that statistically there's a higher probability of these things isn't wrong and if it offends someone, well, tough shit, it's stupid to deny reality for the sake of protecting the feelings of sheltered people.

    Since greyghost knows this girl personally in his case it would be smartest to just ignore the trends and focus on the individual, because when you know someone personally you won't need a statistic to tell you whether or not they're a psychotic coke-fiend. Statistics aren't a good basis for deciding who to date and who not to date, even though they are just about the only way to do sociological research. But dating isn't sociological research unless you're a really fucked up individual.

    I was thinking about saying something almost exactly like this but I didn't know how well it would go over.

    Basically, if (1) she's not insane, and (2) the OP is okay with it, then go for it. It's a job - a job that attracts a slightly higher than normal amount of crazy than being a waitress at Bennigan's, but ultimately just a job.

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