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Moral dillema (weird)

asparagusasparagus Registered User regular
edited October 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
Sooo. I found a girl who is incredible, attractive, great to be around, just a stunning person. She is a bit between things having just left a relationship, but I have no trouble seducing her really.


The problem is that a gay man loves me, and is freaking out over the thing, and offered me $10,000 not to date.

Should I pursue the girl, or take the money?

I owe a large student loan that is in default, somewhere around 9k, so I could be debt free, though so ronery.

Now, this gay man doesn't want me for sex or anything, he just fell in love with me, and likes my company, and the prospect of myself dating is apparently appalling to him.

Any input is appreciated.

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  • NibbleNibble Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
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    Go for the girl, and get the guy some help. Offering you $10,000 so he can continue to pretend that you're his boyfriend is not healthy, and accepting the money will only make things get progressively weirder.

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  • BlochWaveBlochWave Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Take the money, date her secretly >_>

    Truth be told I don't think I believe this topic for a number of reasons, if it's true, then you shouldn't believe him, most of the population can't spare 10,000 dollars in one go, especially for that

    Statistically speaking though you'd probably date her for a year or two then break up anyways. Soooo...hmm

    But seriously, the absolute right thing to do is explain to the guy that you're not gay and his love has zero chance of being reciprocated in the way that he ultimately wants, and that it's absolutely wrong of him to even try to buy your company. Of course this would involve turning down 10k. But if it's just your company he wants, what if you start hanging out with friends more or take up a hobby? Dude's got bad issues, that's actually kinda creepy now that I think about it, that's like murder you in a jealous rage in your sleep creepy

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2007
    Ask for $20k, then give $10k of it to her so she doesn't date other people.

    It's really the healthiest thing you could do.

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  • meekermeeker Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Fast forward to the future:
    on November 7, 2007 Asparagus wrote in H/A:

    I accepted a large amount of money from a gay man who is in love with me. Last night he invited me over and we had some drinks. I woke up all foggy with my underwear around my ankles. Do you think he slipped me some roofies?


    This can not end well. Avoid him completely.

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  • asparagusasparagus Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    The thing is, this is real. I live with him, no rent or costs, he already has given me about 6k total, 3 as a gift ( new pc D; ) and paid for tuition for the year.

    He isnt moneybags rich, but has probably 50k or so just sitting around, and has no social life or friends.

    I am just not sure what to do, because I have no real goals in life. I like this girl a lot, but almost every relationship ive had turns to crap. The money would be nice, having no debt and no longer having to worry about myself in several years as the defaulted interest rises.

    Though, I am so ronery, has been over a year and I like girls a tremendous amount. I am not a gargoyle or anything, but I have issues trying to find them.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2007
    Stop accepting "gifts" from a gay guy who is in love with you.

    The end.

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  • precisionkprecisionk Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Your options are:

    1. Money -> Restraining Order -> Live in fear from a stalker for awhile

    2. Seduce girl -> Sex from girl -> Restraining Order from gay guy still



    The gay guy sounds nuts.

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  • Mmmm... Cocks...Mmmm... Cocks... Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Yea, I'm all for free stuff but man... yea, you're getting in an awkward situation with this guy.

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  • NoxyNoxy Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    This is just bizarre. I have a hard time believing it but lets say you are telling the truth.

    This guy is creepy. Seriously. You hear about stories like this on the news when they show the victims dead body. Personally in this situation I would be worried what would happen if I turned down his 10k considering you have already accepted gifts from him in the past.

    Eventually you are going to have to stop accepting gifts from this guy. The longer this goes on the more unhealthy it will become and the more he will think you are bound to him.

    Man, I would just go for the girl. Money is not everything. You never know, this could be your future wife. Most likely not but it is better dating her than oweing a gay man your soul. (and eventually body. muahahahahahaha. yeah.)

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  • STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Look, this guy can't be normal. Not only do I suggest you turn down his offer, you should move out, cut out all contact with him and forget he exists. I can't believe you are living with this guy.

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  • Black IceBlack Ice Charlotte, NCRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I can see some legal implications coming from this. Also, I can't help but imagine that he'll try and do this to anyone you try and date. No one in their right mind would give away 10k like that, so I have to question what he would do if you dated someone after that.

    From this position, he seems to have a lot of emotional instability and needs to be helped. It's alluring to take the 10k - it might even be the best move for your life at the moment - but I think the morally right thing to do is to not do it. Take into consideration what could happen afterwards, and it just doesn't seem like a bright move.

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  • KilljoyKilljoy __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    There is nothing wrong with sugar daddies.

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  • AbsoluteHeroAbsoluteHero __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    If I fell in love with an incredible stunning girl, I'd pay her $10,000 not to date too.

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  • Big DookieBig Dookie Smells great! DownriverRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Stop accepting "gifts" from a gay guy who is in love with you.

    The end.

    Not to mention that you're living with the guy.

    Seriously, this whole thing is really messed up. Not just the current problem you have, but the whole thing with him giving you new computers and paying your tuition and all that. This guy has issues, and you're stringing him along. This WILL come back to bite you eventually, and probably sooner than later. Especially if this guy is willing to pay you ten grand not to date someone else.

    Don't take his money, and don't take ANY more gifts from this guy - tuition, gadgets, whatever - you need to stop letting this guy pay for your stuff. You're assuming that he expects nothing in return, but remember the old saying: "There is no free lunch." He expects something, you just don't know what it is yet. Ideally, you should work on paying him back what he's already given you and find another place to live, but at the very LEAST, stop taking any more money from this person. If you keep this up, it isn't going to end well for either of you.

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  • Mmmm... Cocks...Mmmm... Cocks... Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Killjoy wrote: »
    There is nothing wrong with sugar daddies.
    I don't think this is quite the same situation...

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  • ZsetrekZsetrek Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    If you'll excuse some glibness - "Once you've agreed to become a whore, the rest is just haggling for price."

    A) Don't encourage this guy. His feelings will only end up getting hurt. As others have said, this can only end poorly.

    B) Have some goddamn self-respect.

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  • Bliss 101Bliss 101 Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    10k for how long? I may sound a bit cynical, but if this girl has just left a relationship, she may not be worth 10k.

    Negotiate a monthly salary with a contract renewable every six months. Weigh that against any girls you meet. I reckon that'd work out decently for everyone.

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  • SamSam Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    sorry, am i the only one who thinks it's a little fucked up that you took advantage of a lonely loser for his money? PRobably knowing that all this time he was doing it out of sexual and romantic attachment?

    Seriously, I wouldn't let anyone (who wasn't a really close friend or didn't owe me big time) give me gifts like that, especially if I had no way or motivation to reciprocate anytime soon.

    Maybe what you need to do is think about your ethics really

    or maybe you just wanted to see what people would say to such a scenario, which im increasingly sure is hypothetical

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Zsetrek wrote: »
    B) Have some goddamn self-respect.

    Seriously. If this is indeed real, which I have a hard time believing, why would any girl want to date you?

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  • ArminasArminas Student of Life SF, CARegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Maybe we're the only ones creeped out and asparagus likes his living situation? I mean, it's adventurous!

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  • LaPuzzaLaPuzza Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I'd say your friend needs some help. I mean, I know gay people that seem to think everyone they know/like/think attractive is gay, but paying is a bit much.

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  • Atlus ParkerAtlus Parker Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    What if he took the money then started to date the guy but in a manner that would make the guy rethink his crush on you? For instance, use your teeth during oral, stop showering, etc. Maybe a month of that and a few shots in the mouth and you're off with the money, guilt free.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Here's a great rule of thumb, if you need to ask whether or something is Morally right, chances are it isn't.

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Sam wrote: »
    sorry, am i the only one who thinks it's a little fucked up that you took advantage of a lonely loser for his money? PRobably knowing that all this time he was doing it out of sexual and romantic attachment?

    Seriously, I wouldn't let anyone (who wasn't a really close friend or didn't owe me big time) give me gifts like that, especially if I had no way or motivation to reciprocate anytime soon.

    Maybe what you need to do is think about your ethics really

    or maybe you just wanted to see what people would say to such a scenario, which im increasingly sure is hypothetical
    Yeah, you obviously had to do something before this for the guy to proposition moneys.
    Sugar daddying is wrong and taking advantage of distorted people.
    Like in an Anna Nicole kind of way.
    Don't do this.
    It is so wrong.

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  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    asparagus wrote: »
    The problem is that a gay man loves me, and is freaking out over the thing, and offered me $10,000 not to date.

    He'll give you $10,000 to not date for how long? And all you have to do is hang out with him?

    $10,000.

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  • SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    For god's sake, don't take that money. Doing it would be admitting that he owns you, and makes decisions for you.

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  • PeekingDuckPeekingDuck __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    I actually had the exact same situation happen to me years back. You need to tell that guy to get some help because something is wrong about that whole thing. My... uhhh friend... ended up cutting his wrists after hitting up the bottle quite a bit. He didn't die but you don't want that crap on your conscience.

    Unless you don't have a conscience, then take the money.

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  • SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Also, it tells that guy that he can buy his friends, which is in no way a healthy position to be in.

    Tell him that you'll still be his friend even if you date this girl, and that if that's not enough, then he needs to either ask you out, or kick you out of his house, because he is lying to you about the status of your relationship.

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  • desperaterobotsdesperaterobots perth, ausRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Oh god, other gays are always giving us normal gays a bad name. Those damn gays!

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    The girl may not work out, the $10k is a sure thing.

    That said my advice is to run away from the crazy man as quickly as you can.

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  • GorgeeenGorgeeen __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    If he offered you 10 dollars, or 10,000 dollars, or 100,000, a million, 10 million, or even 100 million dollars! It would still be wrong and you should never take the money ever.

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  • mastmanmastman Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    since you sound like you're not gay, don't not go out with girls. That strategy is not going to get you laid.

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  • asparagusasparagus Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I am probably a bad person I suppose, the girl did have a boyfriend, which I did infact cause her to break up with from my charm and magic fingers ( eight hour massage though no carnal pleasures )

    I suppose I should just see where things go with the girl over a few weeks, I talked to him last night, and if ti doesnt work out he is still willing to pay me, he even offered to pay my student loans just to make me less depressed about it.

    Up to this point, there has been no exchange of sex or anything like that, a massage here and there, but I am quite skilled in that regard and tend to give them to everyone.

    I do feel guilty, and I have explained that I would feel as if I was taking advantage if I took the money, he said it was no big deal, he just wanted me to be happy about my situation.

    Thank you for the input, I guess it is a weird place to be in currently, though I am horrible at holding jobs , probably worked four months in my life (22)

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    No.

    Stop it.

    STOP IT.

    Do not take money from this man, ever, ever, ever. Do not even THINK about letting him pay off your student loans. You should get a job, pay this guy back, and move far, far away from him. It may seem fun now, having someone pay shit off for you, but I can fairly safely say this dude is an emotional TRAIN WRECK and will eventually snap and either 1) try to get sex out of you while you're drunk, 2) start the "but you OWE ME for all the shit I've given you", or 3) Try the ever so popular "if you leave me I'll kill myself! I need you!" bullshit.

    Cut your ties, man.

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  • SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    You gave a girl an 8 hour massage?

    ...did neither of you have anything to do that day?

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  • mastmanmastman Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Move away from that dude, he sounds like crazy-- straight up Criminal Minds style. It will only end in stupid.

    Go out with that chick. Buy her some Chick-Fil-A and all will be ok.

    and practice your massage techniques more, 8 hours warrants you something ;-)

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  • asparagusasparagus Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Eight hours over the course of the day. She is very meek and shy, and was literally shaking if I moved close to her, but by the end of the day she was comfy with my hands on about 90% of her body, and I really like girls, so touching one for eight hours seems like a good day.

    I am not sure if I can cut and run so to speak, as I recently moved out to the eastern coast, so really dont know anyone. I met this person while I was working my horrible retail job, and after twenty minutes of conversation ( I am quite the conversationalist ) he asked if I wanted to move in.

    He is weird, and does sit on furniture staring off into space for hours at a time, but I have known him for almost two years now and he really doesnt have it in him to get all freaky deeky on anyone. Just lead a sheltered life, never made friends or anything.

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  • Kate of LokysKate of Lokys Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    There is no moral dilemma here.

    None at all.

    Unless you're a sociopath or a grade-A idiot, you *know* that what you are doing is wrong.

    All you're looking for is validation from others so you can tell yourself that it's totally OK to abuse the misplaced affections of a desperate man while simultaneously sabotaging the relationships of others just in case you think you might maybe want to tap that ass. And, disturbingly, some people are giving it to you.

    They are wrong to do so.

    Stop fucking around with other people's lives. You have 9k in student loans? Get a job and pay them off. You can't find a girlfriend? Stop giving massages to people who want to fuck you (the gay man), or who you want to fuck but can't just yet (the girl), and concentrate on, you know, making yourself the kind of person who doesn't need bribery to either receive or demonstrate affection.

    You have no right to be in a relationship when your own moral sense is so far out of whack. What, were you planning on bringing women home to your place to flaunt in front of the poor sap who, for whatever reason, is hopelessly in love with you? No. Not cool. Or were you just going to use his money to pay for hotel rooms and nights out on the town? Just as bad.

    Grow up, move out, and realize that the world does not revolve around you. You have no right to fuck over other people just because you're bored, or lonely, or like easy money.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited October 2007
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Stop accepting "gifts" from a gay guy who is in love with you.

    The end.

    Seriously this is morally reprehensible.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited October 2007
    Having now read the rest of the thread, you're a despicable, dick-eyed cunt anyway and should probably just kill yourself. Hell, take the money.

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