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WHEN THE WORLD WAS YOUNG, TERRIBLE LIZARDS STRODE LIKE KINGS (NSF56K or mammals)

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    CampionCampion Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I wouldn't discount velociraptors for their size. Snakes are tiny, but everybody fears them. Velociraptors are like snakes with legs.

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    MiracleManSMiracleManS __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    Skull Man wrote: »
    No they're an entirely different named thing that I can't remember Skull.

    Also: Who is disappointed that Velociraptor from the movies isn't what a real one looks like? I am!

    they still look pretty terrifying, though

    velociraptor.jpg

    and shoe, come on

    who cares

    hey I'm just trying to prevent misinformation here

    did you guys know there was never any such thing as a brontosaurus

    Terrifying, but not much taller than a large dog. They were 1.5ft to the hip, add another like 6 inches and you've got a 2 foot terror. Come on now.

    What they called Velociraptors in Jurassic Park were really much more like Deinonychus

    although Utahraptor is even more terrifying

    I'll be honest, they're all terrifying, I'd like any as a pet. But come on Spielberg gimme something to work with.

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    Skull ManSkull Man RIP KUSU Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    What they called Velociraptors in Jurassic Park were really much more like Deinonychus

    wrong

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    World as MythWorld as Myth a breezy way to annoy serious people Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    when they discovered that big species of raptor right before jurassic park came out, they briefly named it utahraptor spielbergi

    how terrible

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    MiracleManSMiracleManS __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    ...what? He said closer. So Wiki and the rest of science is wrong?

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    Skull ManSkull Man RIP KUSU Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    it's not much more like it

    it's like a 6 inch height difference

    I mean

    I'm fine with raptors being raptors

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    MiracleManSMiracleManS __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    Hip height of 2.85ft is what wiki tells me. That's more than 6 inches....

    edit :freakin # buttons being too close to each other

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2007
    RAPTORS CAN OPEN DOORS

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Skull Man wrote: »
    What they called Velociraptors in Jurassic Park were really much more like Deinonychus

    wrong

    Deinonychus_BW.jpg

    Right.

    deinonychus.jpg

    nobody's ever found fossilized feathers on a dromaeosaurid, it's just fashionable to draw them that way.

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    MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    And they never will, but (as far as I know) their past existence is implied by the fossils.

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    Skull ManSkull Man RIP KUSU Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Skull Man wrote: »
    What they called Velociraptors in Jurassic Park were really much more like Deinonychus

    wrong

    Deinonychus_BW.jpg

    Right.

    deinonychus.jpg

    nobody's ever found fossilized feathers on a dromaeosaurid, it's just fashionable to draw them that way.

    look at him though

    he has a bald eagle color scheme

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    MKR wrote: »
    And they never will, but (as far as I know) their past existence is implied by the fossils.

    I'd feel more convinced if they actually found evidence for feathers besides they wish they were there

    Archaeopteryx.jpg

    like so

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    ZombotZombot Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Skull Man wrote: »
    No they're an entirely different named thing that I can't remember Skull.


    Also: Who is disappointed that Velociraptor from the movies isn't what a real one looks like? I am!

    they still look pretty terrifying, though

    velociraptor.jpg

    Wait.
    This is what the Velociraptors really looked like?
    My world is crumbling around me

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    MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    MKR wrote: »
    And they never will, but (as far as I know) their past existence is implied by the fossils.

    I'd feel more convinced if they actually found evidence for feathers besides they wish they were there

    Archaeopteryx.jpg

    like so

    Do you understand how fossilization works? The fact that anything is left is amazing. Feathers don't hold up too well.

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    Wedge BiggsWedge Biggs Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Skull Man wrote: »
    What they called Velociraptors in Jurassic Park were really much more like Deinonychus

    wrong

    Deinonychus_BW.jpg

    Right.

    deinonychus.jpg

    nobody's ever found fossilized feathers on a dromaeosaurid, it's just fashionable to draw them that way. SIZE="2"]citation needed[/SIZE

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    MiracleManSMiracleManS __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    Are we remaking the wiki page on raptors now or what?

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    MKR wrote: »
    MKR wrote: »
    And they never will, but (as far as I know) their past existence is implied by the fossils.

    I'd feel more convinced if they actually found evidence for feathers besides they wish they were there

    Archaeopteryx.jpg

    like so

    Do you understand how fossilization works? The fact that anything is left is amazing. Feathers don't hold up too well.

    yes I know how fossilization works

    it just irks me when paleontologists start going out on a limb with their theories past anything any evidence has shown

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Skull Man wrote: »
    What they called Velociraptors in Jurassic Park were really much more like Deinonychus
    wrong

    Deinonychus_BW.jpg

    Right.

    deinonychus.jpg

    nobody's ever found fossilized feathers on a dromaeosaurid, it's just fashionable to draw them that way. SIZE="2"]citation needed[/SIZE

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feathered_dinosaurs

    List of dinosaur genera preserved with feathers

    A number of non-avian dinosaurs are now known to have been feathered. Direct evidence of feathers exists for the following genera, listed in order of publication. In all examples, the evidence described consists of feather impressions, except those marked with an asterisk (*), which denotes genera known to have had feathers based on skeletal or chemical evidence, such as the presence of quill knobs or beta-keratin.
    Sinosauropteryx (1996)[3]
    Protarchaeopteryx (1997)[4]
    Caudipteryx (1998)[5]
    Rahonavis (1998)*
    Shuvuuia (1999)*
    Sinornithosaurus (1999)[6]
    Beipiaosaurus (1999)[7]
    Microraptor (2000)
    Epidendrosaurus (2002)
    Cryptovolans (2002)
    Scansoriopteryx (2002)
    Yixianosaurus (2003)
    Dilong (2004)
    Pedopenna (2005)
    Jinfengopteryx (2005)
    Sinocalliopteryx (2007)
    Velociraptor (2007)*

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    Wedge BiggsWedge Biggs Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Quotes
    1. Are we remaking the wiki page on raptors now or what?[1]

    Trivia
    1. MiraclemanS once wrapped duct tape around the midsection of a groundhog in order to assist in interspecies relations. His reasoning behind this was to prevent the creature from "splitting in twain."

    References
    1. ^ Originating Thread.

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    MiracleManSMiracleManS __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    Touche

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    MonkeybombMonkeybomb Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    so, wait

    How exactly did feathers evolve naturally? I mean, I understand why they make sense on birds, but what evolutionary help did they provide these dudes on the ground?

    But were these rather large dinosaurs on their way to winged flight or something? And if that's the best way to do it, why didn't pteradons evolve them first? Flight seems like just such a hard thing to naturally evolve.

    Science is hard.

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    MiracleManSMiracleManS __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    I'll ask my girlfriend when she gets home. She the evolutionist in the house.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Monkeybomb wrote: »
    so, wait

    How exactly did feathers evolve naturally? I mean, I understand why they make sense on birds, but what evolutionary help did they provide these dudes on the ground?

    But were these rather large dinosaurs on their way to winged flight or something? And if that's the best way to do it, why didn't pteradons evolve them first? Flight seems like just such a hard thing to naturally evolve.

    Science is hard.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feathered_dinosaurs
    The evolution of feather structures is thought to have proceeded from simple hollow filaments through several stages of increasing complexity, ending with the large, deeply rooted, feathers with strong pens (raches), barbs and barbules that birds display today (Prum & Brush, 2002).

    It is logical that the simplest structures were probably most useful as insulation, and that this implies homeothermy. Only the more complex feather structures would be likely candidates for aerodynamic uses.

    basically, the theory is they arose for the same reason mammals have fur, to cool down their bodies

    larger ones never needed feathers/fur, due to being so large they lost heat faster

    kind of like how the largest mammals alive now have little or no fur

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    Skull ManSkull Man RIP KUSU Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    oh my GOD this thread did not turn out as intended

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    Wedge BiggsWedge Biggs Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Quotes
    1. Are we remaking the wiki page on raptors now or what?[1]
    2. I'll ask my girlfriend when she gets home. She the evolutionist in the house.[citation needed]

    Trivia
    1. MiraclemanS once wrapped duct tape around the midsection of a groundhog in order to assist in interspecies relations. His reasoning behind this was to prevent the creature from "splitting in twain."

    Urban Myths
    1. Speculation in late 2006 regarding MiraclemanS heterosexuality were reinforced when he was supposedly photographed with a female. Mythbusters was unable to either Confirm or Bust these allegations, instead labeling the photographs as Plausible. Above said photographs are now as infamous and as hotly debated as Bigfoot and Nessie.

    References
    1. ^ Originating Thread.

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    MiracleManSMiracleManS __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    Wedge doesn't like me.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2007
    Monkeybomb wrote: »
    so, wait

    How exactly did feathers evolve naturally? I mean, I understand why they make sense on birds, but what evolutionary help did they provide these dudes on the ground?

    But were these rather large dinosaurs on their way to winged flight or something? And if that's the best way to do it, why didn't pteradons evolve them first? Flight seems like just such a hard thing to naturally evolve.

    Science is hard.
    Keep in mind that reconstructing exactly how and why feathers evolved from the fossil record is going to be incredibly difficult if not impossible. Note that I said exactly how and why. Paleontologists have some compelling theories about advantages of having proto feathers that have nothing to do with flight, such as thermoregulation. The biggest mistake many people make in thinking about how something like an eyeball or a feather could have evolved is that they assume the only path that makes sense is if the entire evolutionary path is expressly for that purpose (as in, early feathers must have had something to do with flight instead of evolving for some other purpose and later specializing for flight). We have many examples of organs that used to serve a very different purpose and over time, that role was no longer necessary and it evolved into a different role. The mammalian inner ear is an excellent example of this. The mammalian inner ear actually evolved from bones that used to be jawbones in early therapsid reptiles. Therapsids evolved a new jawbone that freed up parts of the old jaw structure to evolve over time into the bones of the mammalian inner ear and we have a pretty clear fossil record of this.

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    Skull ManSkull Man RIP KUSU Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    druhim knows

    druhim remembers

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    MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    WTF flying raptors? It's a good thing God erased them but left some evidence for us to ponder over. Are there bones hollow?

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2007
    Skull Man wrote: »
    oh my GOD this thread did not turn out as intended

    i really liked the OP dude

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    MiracleManSMiracleManS __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    I'll give skull credit for this one. A+++ would read again.


    Also: What kind of pizza should I order? All this dino talk is making me hungry as hell.

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    Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Dinos > Space

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Meat Lover's pizza is the best pizza

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2007
    space dinos > everything

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    Wedge BiggsWedge Biggs Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Quotes
    1. Are we remaking the wiki page on raptors now or what?[1]
    2. I'll ask my girlfriend when she gets home. She the evolutionist in the house.[citation needed]
    3. Wedge dosen't like me. [2]

    Trivia
    1. MiraclemanS once wrapped duct tape around the midsection of a groundhog in order to assist in interspecies relations. His reasoning behind this was to prevent the creature from "splitting in twain."
    2. While on his third tour of duty in "Da Nang" [3], MiraclemanS developed a deep sense of paranoia and an unfounded fear of "Charlie". This has recently leaked into his online forum persona.

    Urban Myths
    1. Speculation in late 2006 regarding MiraclemanS heterosexuality were reinforced when he was supposedly photographed with a female. Mythbusters was unable to either Confirm or Bust these allegations, instead labeling the photographs as Plausible. Above said photographs are now as infamous and as hotly debated as Bigfoot and Nessie.
    2. While diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome early in life, MiraclemanS is no longer required to wear a drool bib while in public.

    References
    1. ^ Originating Thread.
    2. ^ Latest posting.
    3. ^ http://www.danang.gov.vn/

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    MiracleManSMiracleManS __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    Strangely, I know a few people with Asperger's...and people who accuse me of having it but are wrong.


    Tell me Wedge, what should I get on my pizza?

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    WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    4 pages and still no dinosex? forshame SE

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    WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    dinosex2.jpg

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Tell me Wedge, what should I get on my pizza?

    Salami
    Canadian Bacon
    Bacon
    Sausage
    Olives

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    MiracleManSMiracleManS __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    Tell me Wedge, what should I get on my pizza?

    Salami
    Canadian Bacon
    Bacon
    Sausage
    Olives

    Done, minus the olives. They make me vomit.

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