Good lord the challenge levels are tough. Also, 18 Advanced was just mean. I'm glad I beat it, because now my I can laugh knowingly when my roommate pulls his hair out.
Quick question for any of you out there that have finished the game:
Did you think the fiery pit was the end?
Did you die on the firey pit?
What was going through your mind on your way to the fiery pit?
I just wonder what other people's reactions were to that. It's probably the most unique "ending" type deal i've ever played.
I was like, "no way"!
When I saw the fire coming, I started looking for a way to avoid it. I did, however, give thought to the idea that it would be a unique and awesome way to end the game...
Regarding GLaDOS, and given what we see of her personality...
I think she, or rather, an aspect of her multi-core personality, wants you to succeed. Possibly even to visit her, she seems kind of lonely. ("Hello? Is anyone there?" and other little things).
After all, you do break her heart, and she is glad you make it, in the end (sincerely!).
Anyway, regardless of motives or anything else, she's great. The childish taunts, tantrums, dark sarcasm and everything is icing on the Portal cake.
I love the fact that she threatens to delete your backups. It's the type of thing you'd get from someone who doesn't understand that just because they need backups doesn't mean others don't.
The canned response when you finish floor 16 (and associated reference).
The party, with your friend Companion Cube, who is also invited... only you murdered him, you don't have any friends. You're not even a full-time employee ;p.
Then, at the end, he's there after all. With the Delicious Cake.
...Although, to be honest, I hated that damn cube. I torched the guy almost before GLaDOS had even finished explaining.
Well I just beat the game twice. 2nd time with commentary.
This game was fantasic! I really can't wait to see what comes out of this or what comes next. GLaDOS is possibly one of the best AI characters I have ever met in a game. She could pair right up next to Durandal from Marathon 2 in the sinister, sacastic depatment.
The puzzles were unique. The hole game felt like it was training you for the escape which was fun. I spent a good amount of time messing around with the portals the first time through just trying to have some fun.
The last fight was spectacular, though my lap top began to have some frame rate problems. One of the pods that comes of GLaDOS has a recipie for cookies? Or is it cake? I think its cake from what Ellen said in the comentary. Either way, maybe ill make GLaDOS cake someday. The ending is fantastic. The whole game felt like one of the greatest preface ever to the rest of the Half Life universe.
Well I just beat the game twice. 2nd time with commentary.
This game was fantasic! I really can't wait to see what comes out of this or what comes next. GLaDOS is possibly one of the best AI characters I have ever met in a game. She could pair right up next to Durandal from Marathon 2 in the sinister, sacastic depatment.
The puzzles were unique. The hole game felt like it was training you for the escape which was fun. I spent a good amount of time messing around with the portals the first time through just trying to have some fun.
The last fight was spectacular, though my lap top began to have some frame rate problems. One of the pods that comes of GLaDOS has a recipie for cookies? Or is it cake? I think its cake from what Ellen said in the comentary. Either way, maybe ill make GLaDOS cake someday. The ending is fantastic. The whole game felt like one of the greatest preface ever to the rest of the Half Life universe.
This has probably been pointed out in the much speculation in the thread but last night while playing through on commentary mode, Glados says something along the lines of "Aperture Science just wants to remind you that android hell is a real place where you will be sent at the slightest inclination to disobey" - again something along those lines.
Pretty straightforward way to tell the player that Chell is indeed an android or...she could be talking about those Aperture Science minigun turrets but they're not exactly androids.
Anyways, probably pointed out but just adding my two cents.
Wrong.
GLaDOS explicitly states at the beginning of the level that it has been refitted as a training course for combat androids. Apparently GLaDOS is just programmed to say that to the androids upon completing the course.
And for those that think the weird springs on her legs are proof she's an android, go through the developer commentary. They just added the springs so people would stop asking why the player can fall so far without getting hurt.
This has all been stated already, I'm sure, but I guess it needs to be reiterated every few pages or somebody's going to start their misinformed theories again.
Limed for truth and for being someone that paid attention in the game!:^:
i would also like the jury to take note of GLaDOS' threat to send the player to 'android hell' if they step out of line. The following spoiler contains a late-game spoiler
the player clearly disobeys, and is not sent to robot hell, ergo i posit that GLaDOS's statement cannot be taken as fact
This has probably been pointed out in the much speculation in the thread but last night while playing through on commentary mode, Glados says something along the lines of "Aperture Science just wants to remind you that android hell is a real place where you will be sent at the slightest inclination to disobey" - again something along those lines.
Pretty straightforward way to tell the player that Chell is indeed an android or...she could be talking about those Aperture Science minigun turrets but they're not exactly androids.
Anyways, probably pointed out but just adding my two cents.
Wrong.
GLaDOS explicitly states at the beginning of the level that it has been refitted as a training course for combat androids. Apparently GLaDOS is just programmed to say that to the androids upon completing the course.
And for those that think the weird springs on her legs are proof she's an android, go through the developer commentary. They just added the springs so people would stop asking why the player can fall so far without getting hurt.
This has all been stated already, I'm sure, but I guess it needs to be reiterated every few pages or somebody's going to start their misinformed theories again.
Limed for truth and for being someone that paid attention in the game!:^:
i would also like the jury to take note of GLaDOS' threat to send the player to 'android hell' if they step out of line. The following spoiler contains a late-game spoiler
the player clearly disobeys, and is not sent to robot hell, ergo i posit that GLaDOS's statement cannot be taken as fact
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The defence rests.
I think you guys are missing it compeltely, I totally understood what she was getting at, but I can't load the game to bring up the exact phrasings right now.... I'm fairly confident you're all misunderstanding her....
I think you guys are missing it compeltely, I totally understood what she was getting at, but I can't load the game to bring up the exact phrasings right now.... I'm fairly confident you're all misunderstanding her....
Please tell me you did not read all that and still think that the main character is an android.
I think you guys are missing it compeltely, I totally understood what she was getting at, but I can't load the game to bring up the exact phrasings right now.... I'm fairly confident you're all misunderstanding her....
Please tell me you did not read all that and still think that the main character is an android.
You seem to be missing a very important plot point:
I think she said the Android Hell line to make you THINK that the course was actually for androids.
No androids at all. Ever. She just picked the term because she knew gullible people would believe it. And they obviously do.
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I'm going to bring this up one last time: Whose bright idea was it to put a freakin' anger module inside an all powerful computer? I mean, what was the bloody point?
I'm going to bring this up one last time: Whose bright idea was it to put a freakin' anger module inside an all powerful computer? I mean, what was the bloody point?
it is a comedy game, a computer having an anger module is funny
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I'm going to bring this up one last time: Whose bright idea was it to put a freakin' anger module inside an all powerful computer? I mean, what was the bloody point?
it is a comedy game, a computer having an anger module is funny
See, now I don't know about that. GLaDOS is a Generic Lifeform program, right? So what if the modules are part of her brain? All those other spheres we see in the end credits around the cake, they could represent other stuff, like happiness or sadness or what the fuckness. So put in curiosity and intelligence, maybe to see how she'll conduct studies and researches ( what'll interest her, that sorta thing ), but throw in the anger module, and you've got this evil genius crack-a-jack thing that probably wanted to see what deadly neurotoxins would do in a confined space. Add in the morality core to counter that, and you've got an a smart, inquisitive, passive-aggressive bitch who hates everything but can't do anything about it except make snide comments and unnecessarily complicate the lives of her test subjects.
But what I want to know is, who the heck decided that combining anger, intelligence and curiosity was good thing to begin with? I'm thinking Combine stooge.
I'm going to bring this up one last time: Whose bright idea was it to put a freakin' anger module inside an all powerful computer? I mean, what was the bloody point?
it is a comedy game, a computer having an anger module is funny
See, now I don't know about that. GLaDOS is a Generic Lifeform program, right? So what if the modules are part of her brain? All those other spheres we see in the end credits around the cake, they could represent other stuff, like happiness or sadness or what the fuckness. So put in curiosity and intelligence, maybe to see how she'll desire conduct studies and researches ( what'll interest her, that sorta thing ), but throw in the anger module, and you've got this evil genius crack-a-jack thing that probably wanted to see what deadly neurotoxins would do in a confined space. Add in the morality core to counter that, and you've got an a smart, inquisitive, passive-aggressive bitch who hates everything but can't do anything about it except make snide comments and make life unnecessarily difficult for her test subjects.
But what I want to know is, who the heck decided that combining anger, intelligence and curiosity was good thing to begin with? I'm thinking Combine stooge.
Edit: too... many... typos...
hm yes... no, I don't think so
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I'm going to bring this up one last time: Whose bright idea was it to put a freakin' anger module inside an all powerful computer? I mean, what was the bloody point?
it is a comedy game, a computer having an anger module is funny
See, now I don't know about that. GLaDOS is a Generic Lifeform program, right? So what if the modules are part of her brain? All those other spheres we see in the end credits around the cake, they could represent other stuff, like happiness or sadness or what the fuckness. So put in curiosity and intelligence, maybe to see how she'll desire conduct studies and researches ( what'll interest her, that sorta thing ), but throw in the anger module, and you've got this evil genius crack-a-jack thing that probably wanted to see what deadly neurotoxins would do in a confined space. Add in the morality core to counter that, and you've got an a smart, inquisitive, passive-aggressive bitch who hates everything but can't do anything about it except make snide comments and make life unnecessarily difficult for her test subjects.
But what I want to know is, who the heck decided that combining anger, intelligence and curiosity was good thing to begin with? I'm thinking Combine stooge.
Edit: too... many... typos...
hm yes... no, I don't think so
All I'm saying is, Portal is supposed to factor in somewhere in the arching epos that is the HL2 plot. This explanation just makes the most sense as to how it will be integrated.
-A module glitched
-Trying to make AI like a person, and people get angry
-GLaDOS was too nice to make people do any tests, so anger to make people to do stuff.
-Anger to push through ice.
Anyhoo, I thought the same as LaCabra: "GLaDOS is fucking with me. Haha, even another saying at the end to cover it up."
And personally, I am of the opinion that the whole android thing was just her fucking with your head anyway. She was interested in your responses, after all. Telling you the truth was never on her agenda. So yeah, I think the "this test is a combat exercise for androids" was just to make you think that you were in real danger (which was true) and to scare the shit out of you. The thing about android hell was probably just there to fuck with your head even more.
People are taking glads comments much too seriously.
-A module glitched
-Trying to make AI like a person, and people get angry
-GLaDOS was too nice to make people do any tests, so anger to make people to do stuff.
-Anger to push through ice.
Anyhoo, I thought the same as LaCabra: "GLaDOS is fucking with me. Haha, even another saying at the end to cover it up."
That is really not enough justification to put in a module that did not only have the capacity to become angry but was actually made of pure RAGE. Did you listen to it when you put it in the incinerator? I find it much more probable that it was simply one of her normal personality modules that went batshit crazy.
-A module glitched
-Trying to make AI like a person, and people get angry
-GLaDOS was too nice to make people do any tests, so anger to make people to do stuff.
-Anger to push through ice.
Anyhoo, I thought the same as LaCabra: "GLaDOS is fucking with me. Haha, even another saying at the end to cover it up."
That is really not enough justification to put in a module that did not only have the capacity to become angry but was actually made of pure RAGE. Did you listen to it when you put it in the incinerator? I find it much more probable that it was simply one of her normal personality modules that went batshit crazy.
So you disagree with my possible reasons yet completely agree with one of my reasons. K.
probably, at least one parent who adopted Chell went through the test before. Glados mentions that you would be the pride of test subject #something I couldn't make out.
probably, at least one parent who adopted Chell went through the test before. Glados mentions that you would be the pride of test subject #something I couldn't make out.
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You, <Subject Name Here> must be the pride of <Subject Hometown Here>.
I think you guys are missing it compeltely, I totally understood what she was getting at, but I can't load the game to bring up the exact phrasings right now.... I'm fairly confident you're all misunderstanding her....
Please tell me you did not read all that and still think that the main character is an android.
You seem to be missing a very important plot point:
Nakatomi2010 is, shall we say, mentally special.
I don't believe we play an android, but I do believe she said it as a "I'm screwing with your head" remark, as I believe the name of that "level" is Android Hell, thus GLaDOS is letting us know that Android Hell IS a real place where bad test subjects go... Later on we are introduced to that one room, for example, with all the little robots...
Honestly, I think GLaDOS is referring to the turrets as Androids, and letting us know there's a hellish place full of them that they would send us to as punishment....
I had a spider get behind the screen of my LCD once and it "bugged"(I'm sorry, I had to say it) the hell out of me. Those little black dots zipping around almost had me try to backhand the bugs to death inside my screen.
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See, I just figured she was fucking with you. Even when she said it was a course for military androids. I was just all, "GlaDOS, quit being a bitch."
yeah, that's pretty-much how i took it. Like how "we're not watching you in this room" then "btw, i lied, we were, but i'm being honest from now on". I didn't take a single thing she said seriously, and i enjoyed the game. I even laughed some. I did not sit, taking notes, carefully piecing together a detailed spider-diagram of all the possible permutations and ramifications.
The course with the turrets was for testing androids, and human subjects weren't supposed to go there - GLaDOS just disabled the corresponding course for humans to dick around with/outright kill Chell. The part afterwards where she referred to Chell as an android was a preset message that would play whenever someone completed it, since ostensibly the only people who would be run through the course would be androids, as Aperture Science probably didn't go in for live-fire on their test subjects like that before they were taken over by an insane AI. Plus the concept of 'android hell' being used to terrify androids into submission is pretty funny and was added by the developers for +lolz.
... at least that's how I interpreted it.
Also
why would an android develop a relationship with the Companion Cube, presuming the other subjects preceding Chell (Or which are/i] Chell, although I doubt it) would also be androids? An android capable of schizophrenia and developing attachments to cubes would be a pretty shitty piece of military hardware.
I wonder if the robot soldiers the German version of HL1 replaced the American troops with were Aperture's military androids.
I got the jump achievement accidentally in the big room with turrets in the walls.
I got the free-fall/terminal vel. achievement on test chamber 19 part deux (with the tall platforms in the acid), where that large pit is off to the left as you come in.
Also, just tried the challenges for the first time.
Holy fuck. Difficult.
Least portals was freaky enough on the first one - I had to do an awkard jump off the button and flick the crate on the platform back behind me in midair to get 4. But... least footsteps? AUGH! Couldn't even rank a bronze!
So I tried doing one of the portal challenges. I got bronze.
In order to get silver? Five portals.
...WHAT!? Hoooooooooooooowwwwwwww!? In Chapter 5, don't you need to create at least four to get the cube and re-direct the Bouncy Ball of Death? And what the fuck is it for silver? THREE!?
There are some achievements I'll never ever get.
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at the risk of turning out to have been an idiot for thinking this
Chell looks totally like she's related to the G-man
The important thing is, you're willing to take risks.
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For example, you don't actually need two crates
you can stand on teh button and then portal into the tunnel beyond the door in BOTH occasions
or,
Make sure you think ahead and put portals in locations you will be able to reach again (when you change the location of the other portal (ie, blue if orange and vice versa)
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Anyone know what the "big bad jellyfish" is?
Thought it was kind of strange for it to be right inside an Aperture Science office with otherwise official looking things.
I was like, "no way"!
Regarding GLaDOS, and given what we see of her personality...
I think she, or rather, an aspect of her multi-core personality, wants you to succeed. Possibly even to visit her, she seems kind of lonely. ("Hello? Is anyone there?" and other little things).
After all, you do break her heart, and she is glad you make it, in the end (sincerely!).
Anyway, regardless of motives or anything else, she's great. The childish taunts, tantrums, dark sarcasm and everything is icing on the Portal cake.
I love the fact that she threatens to delete your backups. It's the type of thing you'd get from someone who doesn't understand that just because they need backups doesn't mean others don't.
The canned response when you finish floor 16 (and associated reference).
The party, with your friend Companion Cube, who is also invited... only you murdered him, you don't have any friends. You're not even a full-time employee ;p.
...Although, to be honest, I hated that damn cube. I torched the guy almost before GLaDOS had even finished explaining.
This game was fantasic! I really can't wait to see what comes out of this or what comes next. GLaDOS is possibly one of the best AI characters I have ever met in a game. She could pair right up next to Durandal from Marathon 2 in the sinister, sacastic depatment.
The puzzles were unique. The hole game felt like it was training you for the escape which was fun. I spent a good amount of time messing around with the portals the first time through just trying to have some fun.
Now- if only ep2 would finish downloading.
i would also like the jury to take note of GLaDOS' threat to send the player to 'android hell' if they step out of line. The following spoiler contains a late-game spoiler
The defence rests.
I think you guys are missing it compeltely, I totally understood what she was getting at, but I can't load the game to bring up the exact phrasings right now.... I'm fairly confident you're all misunderstanding her....
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Please tell me you did not read all that and still think that the main character is an android.
You seem to be missing a very important plot point:
Nakatomi2010 is, shall we say, mentally special.
Like, the androids were being pushed through the turret sections of the course under the threat of being sent to 'android hell'
GLaDOS said it as an automatic response to something finishing the course
Yeah, but then why would she make a threat meant for military androids that are supposed to be running that portion of the course
She did say a lot of strange shit, you know. Like "the Enrichment Centre thanks you for helping us help you help us all."
or "cake and grief counselling will be available at the conclusion of the test"
No androids at all. Ever. She just picked the term because she knew gullible people would believe it. And they obviously do.
it is a comedy game, a computer having an anger module is funny
See, now I don't know about that. GLaDOS is a Generic Lifeform program, right? So what if the modules are part of her brain? All those other spheres we see in the end credits around the cake, they could represent other stuff, like happiness or sadness or what the fuckness. So put in curiosity and intelligence, maybe to see how she'll conduct studies and researches ( what'll interest her, that sorta thing ), but throw in the anger module, and you've got this evil genius crack-a-jack thing that probably wanted to see what deadly neurotoxins would do in a confined space. Add in the morality core to counter that, and you've got an a smart, inquisitive, passive-aggressive bitch who hates everything but can't do anything about it except make snide comments and unnecessarily complicate the lives of her test subjects.
But what I want to know is, who the heck decided that combining anger, intelligence and curiosity was good thing to begin with? I'm thinking Combine stooge.
Edit: too... many... typos...
hm yes... no, I don't think so
All I'm saying is, Portal is supposed to factor in somewhere in the arching epos that is the HL2 plot. This explanation just makes the most sense as to how it will be integrated.
-A module glitched
-Trying to make AI like a person, and people get angry
-GLaDOS was too nice to make people do any tests, so anger to make people to do stuff.
-Anger to push through ice.
Anyhoo, I thought the same as LaCabra: "GLaDOS is fucking with me. Haha, even another saying at the end to cover it up."
And personally, I am of the opinion that the whole android thing was just her fucking with your head anyway. She was interested in your responses, after all. Telling you the truth was never on her agenda. So yeah, I think the "this test is a combat exercise for androids" was just to make you think that you were in real danger (which was true) and to scare the shit out of you. The thing about android hell was probably just there to fuck with your head even more.
People are taking glads comments much too seriously.
That is really not enough justification to put in a module that did not only have the capacity to become angry but was actually made of pure RAGE. Did you listen to it when you put it in the incinerator? I find it much more probable that it was simply one of her normal personality modules that went batshit crazy.
I don't believe we play an android, but I do believe she said it as a "I'm screwing with your head" remark, as I believe the name of that "level" is Android Hell, thus GLaDOS is letting us know that Android Hell IS a real place where bad test subjects go... Later on we are introduced to that one room, for example, with all the little robots...
Honestly, I think GLaDOS is referring to the turrets as Androids, and letting us know there's a hellish place full of them that they would send us to as punishment....
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Eh' I just couldn't make it out.
It's pathetic, that's for sure.
I had a spider get behind the screen of my LCD once and it "bugged"(I'm sorry, I had to say it) the hell out of me. Those little black dots zipping around almost had me try to backhand the bugs to death inside my screen.
yeah, that's pretty-much how i took it. Like how "we're not watching you in this room" then "btw, i lied, we were, but i'm being honest from now on". I didn't take a single thing she said seriously, and i enjoyed the game. I even laughed some. I did not sit, taking notes, carefully piecing together a detailed spider-diagram of all the possible permutations and ramifications.
Also
I wonder if the robot soldiers the German version of HL1 replaced the American troops with were Aperture's military androids.
I got the free-fall/terminal vel. achievement on test chamber 19 part deux (with the tall platforms in the acid), where that large pit is off to the left as you come in.
Also, just tried the challenges for the first time.
Holy fuck. Difficult.
Least portals was freaky enough on the first one - I had to do an awkard jump off the button and flick the crate on the platform back behind me in midair to get 4. But... least footsteps? AUGH! Couldn't even rank a bronze!
Chell looks totally like she's related to the G-man
In order to get silver? Five portals.
...WHAT!? Hoooooooooooooowwwwwwww!? In Chapter 5, don't you need to create at least four to get the cube and re-direct the Bouncy Ball of Death? And what the fuck is it for silver? THREE!?
There are some achievements I'll never ever get.
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