So were they so retarded that they they didn't recognize back in those days that Warrior damage scaled so insanely good with gear that with the right setup they could destroy everyone on the DPS meters?
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So were they so retarded that they they didn't recognize back in those days that Warrior damage scaled so insanely good with gear that with the right setup they could destroy everyone on the DPS meters?
I was #2 in PvP blues and the TuF, I stayed there when I got my hands on the DoW and later the axe off rags. Part of the problem was that I never went for gear, I got a grand total of 4 things for dps from raiding. Including 2 2h weapons and the bow from Broodlord (I just liked how it looked).
Some of the rogues especially were mad at my position on the charts, and would eventually go to death-defying feats and pots in order to keep up the damage. I can't tell you how many times in BWL I got whispers from the rogues telling me to watch the DPS meters on Chrommagus The guild leader, however, was the only one who got so pissed as to tell the priests to stop healing Laquifa and I during a Rag attempt.
Keep in mind, we had about 5-6 warriors per raid, and only two of us were ever in the top.
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That whole thing just sounds retarded beyond belief.
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It certainly removed a lot of naivety I had about human nature, that's for certain.
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Pvp blues and a TuF eh? Doesn't sound good enough to get into the realm of the truly monstrous warrior dps, and the rogues were presumably in epics? So did they just suck in spite of their desire? I don't remember warriors scaling so well at that lowish level of gear.
Yeah, from my memory, Warriors didn't start doing insane damage until they started piling on quite a few epics.
As a Combat Sword Rogue with top of the line weapons, I found it hard to hold my #1/2 spots against Warriors who were specced right and had some good gear. In places with multiple targets (Like ALL of BWL) it was almost impossible to keep up with them. Abilities like WW and Cleave are just ridiculous when used in conjunction with a good two hander in a raid situation. There was a Warrior I simply gave up trying to keep up with because it wasn't even a contest, he could just WW / Cleave everything and outdamage me by a very hefty amount.
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I was pure PvP spec. Arms/fury. 31/20/0.
Wavechaser, I didn't care about DPS meters on trash. In fact, we reset the meters for bosses. I was not in epic DPS gear, I was in Rank 10 armor and the axe from Rags for the most part.
And, although I was number 2 in DPS, Laquifa was so far ahead of me that he was basically in a league all his own.
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I totally believe you that you were in a top spot Munkus... but I've never met a warrior (particularly one geared like that) that'd ever give me that much trouble. Immodest as it may be, I think I too would be offended if someone I had roughly a full tier on (in the same class) could surpass me by a large margin. I've known a few quality dps warriors, and their damage did indeed scale fairly well, but none ever really gave me a full out run for my money, even when we didn't have them tank a single thing.
Don't take my being incredulous poorly though, it's more a means of saying "Never seen it, and wish I could" than anything else. Kudos sir, clearly it is their loss.
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Heh, I go out of my way to help guildies get keyed for Kara. I PUG'd the attunement and wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
I've mostly PuG'd the attunement 6 or 7 times. The only full Guild key'ing I can think of would be my Rogue. I intend to PuG it on my Shaman, who will also have her Onyxia key, come hell or high water.
I think it's a sign that I secretly hate myself.
I never considered PUG'ing it that bad. Just sit around in prime time, wait for a group, get a group, go in, get it done. Simple. What I couldn't understand is the people in guild who see we had "*GET ATTUNED*" in the MotD for months, and would wait until just before a Kara run to ask in gchat, "Hey, can anyone run me through attunement?" Seriously? If they really want to be there, they should be motivated enough to run themselves through attunment. I PUG'ed my entire attunement run, while guildless. I got myself overegeared for the first half of Karazhan, though farming and PUGs, while guildless. Just to get into a guild where we just BARELY have enough people online for Kara runs, and the people who decide all of a sudden that 10 minutes before a raid is the time to ask us, "Run me through it?" and don't even try. Then, weeks later, they get into the raid and still don't even really try.
I idly wonder how long it'll take them to notice their MT's left the guild for the time being.
It's not even like the instances you have to hit are all that bad anymore.
Back in January, Arcatraz was forboding, Black Morass was murder on PuGs and even Guild crews struggled at times, and Steam Vaults... well, Steam Vaults has always been pretty easy.
Fast forward like 9 months, and the average gear level and experience (in the instances) has gone up so much that I've PuG'd all three back to back without much trouble, and remembering, I'm on a wussy RP realm, so if WE can do it, surely any of those big bad PVP / PVE realms should do it easily. >.>
Sure, it's not always like that, and can often come down to your class and spec (a tank forming/getting a group is going to be faster and easier than "Nelf Rogue / Hunter #924,117"), but in my experience even as a Hunter or poorly geared Mage, it really wasn't all that bad.
Encounters nerfed, gear improvements, Karazhan level epics flooding everywhere, I'm more surprised by a PuG that utterly fails than by one that doesn't.
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Wavechaser, I didn't care about DPS meters on trash. In fact, we reset the meters for bosses. I was not in epic DPS gear, I was in Rank 10 armor and the axe from Rags for the most part.
And, although I was number 2 in DPS, Laquifa was so far ahead of me that he was basically in a league all his own.
I'm not trying to discredit what you are saying, i'm trying to reinforce it by saying I know how hard it was back in the day to keep up with Warriors.
I studied the guides, I got my rotations down, I had the gear and the spec to deliver top-tier dps, and I still found myself overshadowed by Warriors a lot of the time. Albeit, the Warriors had to be decked out pretty well for this to happen, their damage to gear scaling was like exponential.
Yeah, it frustrated me a bit, i'll admit, but I never ever held it against the Warrior, more power to him/her. It was Blizzard that I was pissed at.
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edited October 2007
One thing I forgot: one of the reasons laquifa was mad at me was, apparently, because he didn't think I should be doing that much damage in my gear/spec. Oh narcissism and jealously, where were we without you? Arrrrrrrrgh
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I do find a huge margin of difference between those who play a DPS great and those who suck at it. Case in point: myself vs the other fury warrior that was brought along, who had better gear than me; Gorrak vs the rest of the epic'd hunters in Brimstone (it must hurt when a member of your own class is the same spec, worse gear, and still destroys you on the damage charts); and uh...dammit, can't remember his name. It was a rogue in CTS who was a huge margin ahead of the other rogues.
I'm trying my damnedest to get my paladin in the same spot my warrior is. Not exactly dealing out the same amount of DPS, but maximizing the DPS that I do.
EDIT: Not trying to imply that you were, duder. Just trying to give you the full scope of the scenario.
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The only part I had trouble with for the Kara attunement was BM. PuGing BM was a nightmare for me. Either the tank couldn't hold aggro, we couldn't get a good class for adds. (I ended up having to do it, what a PIA that was) or the healer was just not paying attention. Literally, me and the warrior tank are fighting the elite at the portal. Adds are attacking Medivh's shield. And the rest of the group was standing around at the last portal talking about how they're almost revered with CoT. So I died, just as the healer got a heal off on the tank who was also about to die. I was so mad, I demanded a battle rez with such authority no one questioned it.
It never ceases to amaze me how little many raiders know about their classes. I can't tell you how many times I had to mention SnD being a pivotal Rogue ability (to other Rogues!) that should be up at all times while raiding. People just don't think to research the simplest concepts, and it shows on the meters.
(it must hurt when a member of your own class is the same spec, worse gear, and still destroys you on the damage charts)
No kidding.
I used to take my Hunter alt to BWL on ocassion to help out the crew for balance, once my Rogue needed nothing else from the instance.
The other hunters didn't stand a chance. I'm talking people who play their hunter as a main, have for over 1-2 years, and were rocking full (or nearly full) T2 and often an upgraded weapon. I was still using a Rhok (by no means a shitty weapon, but it was no ... whatever Crossbow Chromaggus dropped, or even AQ40 weaponry) and in mostly T1 / Blues.
We'd have like 4 hunters in the raid, one would beat me, 2 (including the class leader) often wouldn't even come close.
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BM used to be pretty difficult, Aeonus would just destroy groups, and if you blew your portals on him, you'd have trouble with the last boss. However, they nerfed Aeonus, and as time passed people got better / knew what they were doing, and the only time I see groups wipe is when they're just outright bad (Terrible tank, Terrible healer, Adds guy AFKing), or, if the healer/tank is level 68 and can't heal through/survive the last boss.
I have experience on this... so many runs for that hourglass...
BM used to be pretty difficult, Aeonus would just destroy groups, and if you blew your portals on him, you'd have trouble with the last boss. However, they nerfed Aeonus, and as time passed people got better / knew what they were doing, and the only time I see groups wipe is when they're just outright bad (Terrible tank, Terrible healer, Adds guy AFKing), or, if the healer/tank is level 68 and can't heal through/survive the last boss.
I have experience on this... so many runs for that hourglass...
Haha, don't get me started on that.
I was halfway to exalted before I finally saw it drop.
It never ceases to amaze me how little many raiders know about their classes. I can't tell you how many times I had to mention SnD being a pivotal Rogue ability (to other Rogues!) that should be up at all times while raiding. People just don't think to research the simplest concepts, and it shows on the meters.
I think I eventually sold that one. I still have my Abacus on hand, because I have a hard time utterly getting rid of a haste item, even if it's one that has been sitting in my bank for months.
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heroic BM has been a bitch for me
I did about 5 runs the other night
One thing would go wrong, and we'd be done
The last thing to happen was that the final boss spawned as we killed the last portal guy, but the portal guy's adds were on medivh, so we couldn't get out of combat.
It would have gone over a lot better if two of our portals hadn't been wasted earlier (one because the guy we brought along dropped in right next to medivh instead of on the f'n portal).
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edited October 2007
Oh, and I'm pretty sure the rogues in Levi were not keeping SnD up. They were deep in the ass. tree without a lick of a point in imp SnD.
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It never ceases to amaze me how little many raiders know about their classes. I can't tell you how many times I had to mention SnD being a pivotal Rogue ability (to other Rogues!) that should be up at all times while raiding. People just don't think to research the simplest concepts, and it shows on the meters.
I can't count the number of times I've informed our main tank that she died because she got crushed because she didn't have shield block up, not because she wasn't getting enough healing. It makes me cry a little inside.
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It never ceases to amaze me how little many raiders know about their classes. I can't tell you how many times I had to mention SnD being a pivotal Rogue ability (to other Rogues!) that should be up at all times while raiding. People just don't think to research the simplest concepts, and it shows on the meters.
I can't count the number of times I've informed our main tank that she died because she got crushed because she didn't have shield block up, not because she wasn't getting enough healing. It makes me cry a little inside.
On the same point, I recall a lot of attempts on Bloodlord Mandokir in the guild I was raiding with prior to Levi. I never joined the guild, but I ended up being their main tank because none of the other warriors wanted to remotely tank.
One thing I said about 10 times before each attempt: "Don't heal anybody but me, healers. Nobody but the tank. Especially when he enrages. Just heal me, dammit. He can bring me from 100% to 10% in a shot, keep healing me even when I'm at full. I have to survive the enrage."
So what happens every time I die and we wipe?
Douchebag healer X heals stupidface rogue Y.
Arrrrrrgh stupid people.
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BM used to be pretty difficult, Aeonus would just destroy groups, and if you blew your portals on him, you'd have trouble with the last boss. However, they nerfed Aeonus, and as time passed people got better / knew what they were doing, and the only time I see groups wipe is when they're just outright bad (Terrible tank, Terrible healer, Adds guy AFKing), or, if the healer/tank is level 68 and can't heal through/survive the last boss.
I have experience on this... so many runs for that hourglass...
Haha, don't get me started on that.
I was halfway to exalted before I finally saw it drop.
Nyeargh. I dunno, maybe my guild an somehow manage to find and recruit enough extra DPS that knows what to do without having to be told how to do it. I think perhaps the fact that we have no web site, forums, or application process may have something to do with it. It also doesn't help that every week we have complete-random lowbies joining us for no apparent reason, asking a few times in gchat, "Can someone run me through Uldaman?" "Can someone run me through Maraudon?" "Can someone run me through SM?" and then vanishing into the aether just as mysteriously.
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edited October 2007
Are you talking about the beasts there? I'm confused. We have forums and a recruitment policy.
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No, I'm talking about my guild over on Jubei'Thos. The one I've (maybe) temporarily gquit while I figure out what's going on with them. Just used "Arrrrrrgh stupid people." as a convenient launching-off point.
Oh, and I'm pretty sure the rogues in Levi were not keeping SnD up. They were deep in the ass. tree without a lick of a point in imp SnD.
Even if you dont have any points in Imp SnD, you need to keep that shit running. Yeah, it hurts your rotation without it, but considering most of a Rogue's damage is white damage, you should have it up, no excuses.
This morning I tried to get a character retrieved, waited an hour for the ticket to be answered, GM told me the character was restored.. it wasn't so I decided to check back tonight incase it was just taking a while or something. So I come back in the evening, still no character; I open another ticket. 90mins later it'll be serviced 'soon', 30mins later....
they give me a GM survey instead! Cancelling out the ticket I had open.
Now currently on ticket and stupid wait number 3. Fuck fuck cocksnakes fuck.
Pvp blues and a TuF eh? Doesn't sound good enough to get into the realm of the truly monstrous warrior dps, and the rogues were presumably in epics? So did they just suck in spite of their desire? I don't remember warriors scaling so well at that lowish level of gear.
It's not that hard to imagine back then. Warrior scaling was fucking incredable like Munkus says. Back when I was raiding, I was wearing Dungeon Set 2, Titanic Leggings, and Lionheart Helm with the AV dagger and Quel'Serrar and I was beating mages in T1 and even a rogue in T2.
I have sob story too from back then, but nothing near as tragic as the one Munkus posted. What happened to him is just plain fucked up.
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I remember having a glorious time soloing the entire quest line.
The only help I got was getting a cleared Shadow Lab instance from some guildies and a cleared BM instance.
This was after they introduced the elite that would jump out from the container and fight you for the key fragment.
The guy in Steamvaults was easy since you fight him underwater without other mobs around, but the fight in Arcatraz was epic.
First I had to stealth up to the Curator looking mob that shoots electricity at you even in stealth. To get past him I needed to wait until it was clear on the other side and sprint with Cloak of Shadows up and pray I would get far enough into the next room before I was hit by lighting so I could Vanish safely. The elite I had to fight was in the path of one of the Void thingies and he was far enough away that I would not aggro him for about 20 sec. So I had to burn down a 70 elite mob in about 18 sec burning in mostly the gear I got from leveling with a few 70 blues and some crafted gear.
It took me about seven or eight tries, but when I finally killed that guy it was glorious indeed.
BM used to really fuck with people for a while, I got 5% of from exalted with KOT by early march just because I was one of the few in guild who could reliably tank it. I began to hate that place after a while.
I actually did Heroic SV and Heroic SL for the TK attunement in pugs (both good pugs all the way through). Although I was able to sucker a tank I somewhat knew and I was the main healer, so I guess I didn't pug the hard parts.
I never went there when I was at that level range, and I point blank refuse to run people through.
Those basilisks!!!
SPELL REFLECT!! GAH! A lvl 40 mob's spell reflect should not work just as well on a 70 as it does on a 40!
Did you get a chance to look at RP servers yesterday?
EDIT: Also, since I didn't realize this wasn't the [chat] thread:
Hate: We ran AQ20 tonight, and it was my first raid experience -- things were going great until Buru, when it showed that some people just couldn't be assed to listen to explanations the first, second, or third times. Buru would aggro on them and they wouldn't flee; they'd apply DoTs to the eggs making it very hard to time when to break them; or they would not kite him towards the eggs at all.
We still got through that encounter, but Ossirian just ended up being impossible since someone would pull aggro and then take him in a direction opposite a crystal -- we also outright missed with the first crystal twice, causing two wipes, because the person pulling moved off to the side instead of directly back.
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Sorry Oboro, no, I didn't...we extended our Karazhan raid by two hours because we started two hours late, so I was too tired by the end ofi t.
HappyHappyHappy!!: Got my epic lock mount! The guildies finally came through for me last night, and not only that but one of the other warlocks in the guild had the mats so I didn't have to blow another 250g on them myself. WHOO SPEED.
Also very Happy: On the last night of the event, I actually got to fight the Headless Horseman with these very same awesome guildies. I didn't think I would get to see him since I'm not quite 70, but they took me along and it is a very cool fight. I even got to roll on the caster ring when it dropped, though I lost out to a 70 'lock who probably deserved it more anyways.
Ninja Edit: It seems I was misinformed, and that the Headless Horseman will actually be around until next Tuesday after all... so maybe I'll get another shot at that caster ring!
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I was #2 in PvP blues and the TuF, I stayed there when I got my hands on the DoW and later the axe off rags. Part of the problem was that I never went for gear, I got a grand total of 4 things for dps from raiding. Including 2 2h weapons and the bow from Broodlord (I just liked how it looked).
Some of the rogues especially were mad at my position on the charts, and would eventually go to death-defying feats and pots in order to keep up the damage. I can't tell you how many times in BWL I got whispers from the rogues telling me to watch the DPS meters on Chrommagus
Keep in mind, we had about 5-6 warriors per raid, and only two of us were ever in the top.
As a Combat Sword Rogue with top of the line weapons, I found it hard to hold my #1/2 spots against Warriors who were specced right and had some good gear. In places with multiple targets (Like ALL of BWL) it was almost impossible to keep up with them. Abilities like WW and Cleave are just ridiculous when used in conjunction with a good two hander in a raid situation. There was a Warrior I simply gave up trying to keep up with because it wasn't even a contest, he could just WW / Cleave everything and outdamage me by a very hefty amount.
Wavechaser, I didn't care about DPS meters on trash. In fact, we reset the meters for bosses. I was not in epic DPS gear, I was in Rank 10 armor and the axe from Rags for the most part.
And, although I was number 2 in DPS, Laquifa was so far ahead of me that he was basically in a league all his own.
Don't take my being incredulous poorly though, it's more a means of saying "Never seen it, and wish I could" than anything else. Kudos sir, clearly it is their loss.
I never considered PUG'ing it that bad. Just sit around in prime time, wait for a group, get a group, go in, get it done. Simple. What I couldn't understand is the people in guild who see we had "*GET ATTUNED*" in the MotD for months, and would wait until just before a Kara run to ask in gchat, "Hey, can anyone run me through attunement?" Seriously? If they really want to be there, they should be motivated enough to run themselves through attunment. I PUG'ed my entire attunement run, while guildless. I got myself overegeared for the first half of Karazhan, though farming and PUGs, while guildless. Just to get into a guild where we just BARELY have enough people online for Kara runs, and the people who decide all of a sudden that 10 minutes before a raid is the time to ask us, "Run me through it?" and don't even try. Then, weeks later, they get into the raid and still don't even really try.
I idly wonder how long it'll take them to notice their MT's left the guild for the time being.
Back in January, Arcatraz was forboding, Black Morass was murder on PuGs and even Guild crews struggled at times, and Steam Vaults... well, Steam Vaults has always been pretty easy.
Fast forward like 9 months, and the average gear level and experience (in the instances) has gone up so much that I've PuG'd all three back to back without much trouble, and remembering, I'm on a wussy RP realm, so if WE can do it, surely any of those big bad PVP / PVE realms should do it easily. >.>
Sure, it's not always like that, and can often come down to your class and spec (a tank forming/getting a group is going to be faster and easier than "Nelf Rogue / Hunter #924,117"), but in my experience even as a Hunter or poorly geared Mage, it really wasn't all that bad.
Encounters nerfed, gear improvements, Karazhan level epics flooding everywhere, I'm more surprised by a PuG that utterly fails than by one that doesn't.
I'm not trying to discredit what you are saying, i'm trying to reinforce it by saying I know how hard it was back in the day to keep up with Warriors.
I studied the guides, I got my rotations down, I had the gear and the spec to deliver top-tier dps, and I still found myself overshadowed by Warriors a lot of the time. Albeit, the Warriors had to be decked out pretty well for this to happen, their damage to gear scaling was like exponential.
Yeah, it frustrated me a bit, i'll admit, but I never ever held it against the Warrior, more power to him/her. It was Blizzard that I was pissed at.
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I do find a huge margin of difference between those who play a DPS great and those who suck at it. Case in point: myself vs the other fury warrior that was brought along, who had better gear than me; Gorrak vs the rest of the epic'd hunters in Brimstone (it must hurt when a member of your own class is the same spec, worse gear, and still destroys you on the damage charts); and uh...dammit, can't remember his name. It was a rogue in CTS who was a huge margin ahead of the other rogues.
I'm trying my damnedest to get my paladin in the same spot my warrior is. Not exactly dealing out the same amount of DPS, but maximizing the DPS that I do.
EDIT: Not trying to imply that you were, duder. Just trying to give you the full scope of the scenario.
No kidding.
I used to take my Hunter alt to BWL on ocassion to help out the crew for balance, once my Rogue needed nothing else from the instance.
The other hunters didn't stand a chance. I'm talking people who play their hunter as a main, have for over 1-2 years, and were rocking full (or nearly full) T2 and often an upgraded weapon. I was still using a Rhok (by no means a shitty weapon, but it was no ... whatever Crossbow Chromaggus dropped, or even AQ40 weaponry) and in mostly T1 / Blues.
We'd have like 4 hunters in the raid, one would beat me, 2 (including the class leader) often wouldn't even come close.
I have experience on this... so many runs for that hourglass...
Haha, don't get me started on that.
I was halfway to exalted before I finally saw it drop.
I learned that here back when I was starting MC.
I did about 5 runs the other night
One thing would go wrong, and we'd be done
The last thing to happen was that the final boss spawned as we killed the last portal guy, but the portal guy's adds were on medivh, so we couldn't get out of combat.
It would have gone over a lot better if two of our portals hadn't been wasted earlier (one because the guy we brought along dropped in right next to medivh instead of on the f'n portal).
I can't count the number of times I've informed our main tank that she died because she got crushed because she didn't have shield block up, not because she wasn't getting enough healing. It makes me cry a little inside.
On the same point, I recall a lot of attempts on Bloodlord Mandokir in the guild I was raiding with prior to Levi. I never joined the guild, but I ended up being their main tank because none of the other warriors wanted to remotely tank.
One thing I said about 10 times before each attempt: "Don't heal anybody but me, healers. Nobody but the tank. Especially when he enrages. Just heal me, dammit. He can bring me from 100% to 10% in a shot, keep healing me even when I'm at full. I have to survive the enrage."
So what happens every time I die and we wipe?
Douchebag healer X heals stupidface rogue Y.
Arrrrrrgh stupid people.
43 runs. I was almost to Exaulted twice.
Nyeargh. I dunno, maybe my guild an somehow manage to find and recruit enough extra DPS that knows what to do without having to be told how to do it. I think perhaps the fact that we have no web site, forums, or application process may have something to do with it. It also doesn't help that every week we have complete-random lowbies joining us for no apparent reason, asking a few times in gchat, "Can someone run me through Uldaman?" "Can someone run me through Maraudon?" "Can someone run me through SM?" and then vanishing into the aether just as mysteriously.
Even if you dont have any points in Imp SnD, you need to keep that shit running. Yeah, it hurts your rotation without it, but considering most of a Rogue's damage is white damage, you should have it up, no excuses.
This morning I tried to get a character retrieved, waited an hour for the ticket to be answered, GM told me the character was restored.. it wasn't so I decided to check back tonight incase it was just taking a while or something. So I come back in the evening, still no character; I open another ticket. 90mins later it'll be serviced 'soon', 30mins later....
they give me a GM survey instead!
Now currently on ticket and stupid wait number 3. Fuck fuck cocksnakes fuck.
It's not that hard to imagine back then. Warrior scaling was fucking incredable like Munkus says. Back when I was raiding, I was wearing Dungeon Set 2, Titanic Leggings, and Lionheart Helm with the AV dagger and Quel'Serrar and I was beating mages in T1 and even a rogue in T2.
I have sob story too from back then, but nothing near as tragic as the one Munkus posted. What happened to him is just plain fucked up.
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I remember having a glorious time soloing the entire quest line.
The only help I got was getting a cleared Shadow Lab instance from some guildies and a cleared BM instance.
This was after they introduced the elite that would jump out from the container and fight you for the key fragment.
The guy in Steamvaults was easy since you fight him underwater without other mobs around, but the fight in Arcatraz was epic.
First I had to stealth up to the Curator looking mob that shoots electricity at you even in stealth. To get past him I needed to wait until it was clear on the other side and sprint with Cloak of Shadows up and pray I would get far enough into the next room before I was hit by lighting so I could Vanish safely. The elite I had to fight was in the path of one of the Void thingies and he was far enough away that I would not aggro him for about 20 sec. So I had to burn down a 70 elite mob in about 18 sec burning in mostly the gear I got from leveling with a few 70 blues and some crafted gear.
It took me about seven or eight tries, but when I finally killed that guy it was glorious indeed.
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sargeras&n=Rubycurse
I never went there when I was at that level range, and I point blank refuse to run people through.
Those basilisks!!!
SPELL REFLECT!! GAH! A lvl 40 mob's spell reflect should not work just as well on a 70 as it does on a 40!
You receive loot: [Flashing Living Ruby].
EDIT: Also, since I didn't realize this wasn't the [chat] thread:
Hate: We ran AQ20 tonight, and it was my first raid experience -- things were going great until Buru, when it showed that some people just couldn't be assed to listen to explanations the first, second, or third times. Buru would aggro on them and they wouldn't flee; they'd apply DoTs to the eggs making it very hard to time when to break them; or they would not kite him towards the eggs at all.
We still got through that encounter, but Ossirian just ended up being impossible since someone would pull aggro and then take him in a direction opposite a crystal -- we also outright missed with the first crystal twice, causing two wipes, because the person pulling moved off to the side instead of directly back.
I'll look tonight.
Are you ever on msn? Be on there
Also very Happy: On the last night of the event, I actually got to fight the Headless Horseman with these very same awesome guildies. I didn't think I would get to see him since I'm not quite 70, but they took me along and it is a very cool fight. I even got to roll on the caster ring when it dropped, though I lost out to a 70 'lock who probably deserved it more anyways.
Ninja Edit: It seems I was misinformed, and that the Headless Horseman will actually be around until next Tuesday after all... so maybe I'll get another shot at that caster ring!