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Mario and Sonic: How would YOU do it?
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So I've been thinking on this a bit lately, and between Sega's Olymipic crossover game and Sonic's guest appearance in Brawl, it seems like both companies are testing the waters for a honest to goodness crossover platformer. At least, we all hope and pray they are. But how would you go about mixing the two? This is what I envison.
Two games, Mario and Sonic for the Wii, Sonic and Mario for the DS. Why the different titles? Because M+S would be developed by Nintendo and primarily feature Mario and friends, and S+M (teehee) would be developed by Sega, and primarily feature the blue guy. Sega's clearly shown their strength is on handhelds when it comes to Sonic (sonic advance, sonic rush) so they would be the best choice for a handheld2d platformer, and if anyone knows how to make Sonic work in 3d, it'd probably be Nintendo.
Core mechanics that I'd like to see between both games:
Four characters from each series, Mario, Luigi, Donkey Kong, and Peach, and their counterparts, Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Amy.
So each "team" would have their own set of levels. The first level for each character (Sonic's side and Mario's side would only be available on their respective games initially, and then you'd unlock the other side through the game, I'll explain why in a minute) would be open, and beating it would unlock the next level for that character, this way you could play through the game as any character you wanted at any time.
Each team (Mario/Sonic) would play similarly, with different traits, of course (Sonic's faster, Mario jumps higher)
Mario/Sonic would be your all around platformy team, Luigi/Tails would be floatier, DK/Knuckles would be brawler/climber guys, and Peach/Amy would use weapons (Parasol, big frickin' hammer)
now each team would have one character designated a "buster" and one a "glider."
Mario glides with his cape, Peach glides with her parasol, Knuckles glides, uh, however the hell he does, and Tails glides with his tail.
that's pretty self explanatory.
Busters can break blocks that Gliders can't.
Sonic Busts them with his Spin Dash, Amy with her big huge hammer, DK with his pure monkey strength, and Luigi, well, haven't figured that part out yet. (edit: possibly by using the Poltergust 3000 to suck up projectiles and fire them at the blocks?)
But this opens up the levels. Parts will be accessible by Gliders, and parts will be accessible by Busters. This gives you incentive to replay the levels as the characters you unlock.
What do I want to see as the main enemy? A Roboticized Bowser in a souped-up Clown Cup.
I have more (Mini-games that pit each game's counterpart against each other, downloadable levels from "classic" sonic and mario games that you can play as any character in) but that's the gist of it.
I'd love to hear some of your ideas on the subject.
Two games, Mario and Sonic for the Wii, Sonic and Mario for the DS. Why the different titles? Because M+S would be developed by Nintendo and primarily feature Mario and friends, and S+M (teehee) would be developed by Sega, and primarily feature the blue guy. Sega's clearly shown their strength is on handhelds when it comes to Sonic (sonic advance, sonic rush) so they would be the best choice for a handheld2d platformer, and if anyone knows how to make Sonic work in 3d, it'd probably be Nintendo.
Core mechanics that I'd like to see between both games:
Four characters from each series, Mario, Luigi, Donkey Kong, and Peach, and their counterparts, Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Amy.
So each "team" would have their own set of levels. The first level for each character (Sonic's side and Mario's side would only be available on their respective games initially, and then you'd unlock the other side through the game, I'll explain why in a minute) would be open, and beating it would unlock the next level for that character, this way you could play through the game as any character you wanted at any time.
Each team (Mario/Sonic) would play similarly, with different traits, of course (Sonic's faster, Mario jumps higher)
Mario/Sonic would be your all around platformy team, Luigi/Tails would be floatier, DK/Knuckles would be brawler/climber guys, and Peach/Amy would use weapons (Parasol, big frickin' hammer)
now each team would have one character designated a "buster" and one a "glider."
Mario glides with his cape, Peach glides with her parasol, Knuckles glides, uh, however the hell he does, and Tails glides with his tail.
that's pretty self explanatory.
Busters can break blocks that Gliders can't.
Sonic Busts them with his Spin Dash, Amy with her big huge hammer, DK with his pure monkey strength, and Luigi, well, haven't figured that part out yet. (edit: possibly by using the Poltergust 3000 to suck up projectiles and fire them at the blocks?)
But this opens up the levels. Parts will be accessible by Gliders, and parts will be accessible by Busters. This gives you incentive to replay the levels as the characters you unlock.
What do I want to see as the main enemy? A Roboticized Bowser in a souped-up Clown Cup.
I have more (Mini-games that pit each game's counterpart against each other, downloadable levels from "classic" sonic and mario games that you can play as any character in) but that's the gist of it.
I'd love to hear some of your ideas on the subject.
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DK fits both the "friendly rival" personality and gameplay mechanics of knuckles.
this is why Sega would be developing one and Nintendo the other. One would play like Mario and one would play like Sonic.
Though I certainly see your point of view on the subject.
Well maybe Nintendo should make the mario game and the sonic game.
Well, you'd get to see Sega's take on Mario and Nintendo's take on Sonic.
Besides, Nintendo does JUST make Mario games, and Sega does JUST make Sonic games. This would be what is known as a collaboration.
which would be my hope
The combination of the two should feel like a separate thing apart from either series.
Mainly because it's not being done by Sega.
As men of science, are not your minds open to new ideas?
Sonic would win EVERYTHING!
Yeah yeah, I know. Not a platformer.
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yes similar to this
only, you know, good, hopefully
However if they made it an RPG, I'd be all over it
You picked up a RING.
You picked up a MUSHROOM.
That would be awesome. A platformer would be much more likely. And if they both put their best guys to it, treated it like a serious project, I have no doubt it'd be awesome.
"And Sonic was all like "WHOOOOSH" and Mario was like "Yoohoo! Wah! Waha!" and then Bowser came out and he's all like "RAAAWR" and Dr. Robotnik was like "Hahahaha!" and he was in this big robot Bowser and Sonic was snowboarding into it's stomach and Mario was avoiding all of these obstacles and then the robot blew up and Peach started to make out with Sonic."
GET YE RING
Way back when we had a thread about how to save Sonic, this was precisely my suggestion. Give the series to Nintendo.
Considering that the video intro of Sonic in Smash Bros. eclipsed any recent game in quality - and it's a frigging fighting/party game even - I still see nothing wrong with this course of action.
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Sonic has always had great physics. Give him a awesomely designed world to take advantage of this. Obviously this would take shit tons of talent.
I think the talent's there. I just don't know what the hell they're doing with it.
"Hey guys I got idea for another character."
"AWESOME."
maybe that should be another mini game, battle of the retarded characters everyone hates. Big The Cat vs. um, hell, I dunno, Waluigi. Or Petey Pirhana.
I'd love to hear his take on this, and his opinion on my idea. Even though they will both probably amount to "that is terrible"
I would really like to see a "Mario and Sonic" RPG that features all of those worlds and things from the old NES, SNES, Genesis and Master System era... Mario and Sonic could be the main protagonists roaming through all the crazy console exclusive worlds of the past.
You would need to give Mario/Luigi some specific ability. Maybe like some built in power ups like all time fire power because Sonic can do everything Mario can plus some extra shit like running up walls. It would work like Donkey Kong 64 just without the massive collection fest.
Also, mixing power ups is amusing. Sonic with flower power and Mario in the bubble.
But everyone loves Waluigi.
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That's not true.
Bowser Jr. or Daisy then.
Two seperate Campaigns. One starring Mario & Bowser the other starring Sonic & Eggman. The game's plot would involve some new villian set up to threaten both universes and the need for the main villians/heroes to team up. For Mario/Bowser I imagine it'd be some cheesy thing like the new villian kidnaps Princess Toadstool, and Bowser is all, "Hey! That's my job!" and something more complicated for Sonic/Eggman. Perhaps some kind of magic ring making them have to stay close to eachother, so because they both hate eachother so much, they have to work together to escape the fate of a life together.
Mario/Bowser's quest would play similarly to Kingdom Hearts, except have much more emphasis on puzzles, and the two characters would have to work together to solve them much like in Mario & Luigi games.
Sonic/Eggman would be much more speed/platforming oriented, and for puzzles having some kind of rubberband effect on Robotnik because of how much slower he'd be (and the idea that they'd be linked by a magic ring that would only allow them to stray a certain distance from eachother) and combat would probably still be handled in Kingdom Hearts fashion.
Then obviously the character's storylines would interact, and they would gain party members from the opposing games blah blah blah, maybe the final battle would have Mario/Sonic working together.
I'm not really a fan of the crossover concept, but this is how I'd do it.
Something like that.
There needs to be a game where Sonic can run around in the exact region from Shadow of the Colussus. I don't think you'd actually need a real game there, just running around.
A game where they pretend to work together, but secretly try to kill each other. I like it!
Isn't that every co-op game ever?
I was going to write a plot that combines every mario and sonic plot in the last decade to make fun of the plot in every mario and sonic game in the last decade, but I don't think the joke is worth the work.
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