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LttP: The PS2 (Yeah, the whole thing.)

TzenTzen Registered User regular
edited October 2007 in Games and Technology
So I bought a PSTwo on eBay for 75 bucks inc shipping. It was pretty scratched up on the outside but works perfectly regardless. It is the 70012 model, so I am silently distressing about getting the dreaded DRE error (also known as "your-laser-is-fucked-lol-Sony-goatse'd-you") whenever I boot up a game.

I picked up GT4, GoW, SotC, Black, FFXII, MGS3S and Burnout 3.

GT4: It's a beautiful game with some incredible ficticious tracks, but I feel like I'm missing out by not having that 900-degrees-of-rotation force feedback wheel. It controls more like Forza with all the driving aids off which is a good thing, but I dislike using the right stick for analog gas/break instead of triggers. I can't justify the cost of the wheel, though.

GoW: Wow, what a complete disappointment. Bland, boring bullshit. Titties and ultraviolence do not save this game from mediocrity. There's no reason to play this when PoP and other, better platformers and action games exist. Shit, I'd rather play TRL and TRA on the PC with their awful combat than play this game. That Jaffe guy seems nice, but this game is overrated.

SotC (completed): Wow, this is the killer app for the PS2. Yeah, the framerate dips and the camera goes batshit sometimes, but it is just a beautiful piece of art with some truly incredible gameplay. The world is simply gorgeous, but I wish there was more of a reason to explore it than finding the Colossi. They should have added hidden items or something. This game seriously challenges my disdain for Japanese media.

FFXII: I think this is the FF game for non-fans of FF games. The main character isn't a whiny emo pussy (though he does look like some kind of lesbiman), and the combat was finally given a needed facelift. I have always appreciated the massive production values and scope of the FF series, but they have never been able to hold my attention. I dislike the license system (why can't I SEE what all the fucking license squares do?), but the gambit system is rather fun. I really find myself enjoying the more grounded (so far, anyway) story as well.

MGS3S (completed): This is a series I love to hate and hate to love. The story starts out pretty slowly, and as expected travels deep into dumbass bullshit territory. The difference is that MGS3S will make you laugh, and eventually it will probably even win you over. The gameplay and controls are still a little abstract and dated; for example, holding enemies up for items is so tedious and time consuming that you probably won't even bother doing it. There are many little things that fall into the "you probably won't waste your time doing them" category. The camo system is okay, but the food shit is just annoying. It rots so quickly that you'll probably wind up only keeping rations and ramen and such. However, I think the enemies see a lot further which is a much needed adjustment that makes the gameplay much more realistic. The new camera is pretty good and really shows off the incredible and beautiful environments, but I found myself switching over to the old overhead camera on occasion to get a birds eye view (cheap) of the enemies. I wish the new camera would sort of lock behind Snake whenever you run. I LOVE what they're doing with the controls in MGS4; choice = AWESOME, and someone finally talked Kojima's dumb ass into providing multiple control schemes to suit varied tastes. PLEASE, God, let MGS4 get ported to the 360...

Black: Meh.

Burnout 3: I loved Burnout 2 on the GC with all of my heart, and I was crushed when subsequent games in the series did not show any love to the Cube. Burnout 3 is fucking great. I thought I would dislike the new emphasis on takedowns, but they're really quite fun and addictive. Some of the races are downright brutal, though; specifically the time trial runs in the F1 car. You pretty much have to hold down the boost and not make a single mistake the entire time. That's hard. Plus, the aliasing can make it really hard to see what's infront of you.


My brother has been playing Dragon Quest VIII, but christ that game looks mindnumbingly slow and boring.


Games I will greedily snatch and run to the register with if I find a copy: ICO

Games I am considering buying: God Hand (if it's even a fraction as good as RE4 it has to be awesome, right?)

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  • DarlanDarlan Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Good to hear. If you liked SotC, you might like ICO as well, I see you're hunting for it. They're pretty different games, but there is an equally amazing aesthetic value in both games. Perhaps my two favorite games ever, certainly on the PS2.

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  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I am so bewildered by you not liking my two favorite games on that list (GoW and Black).

    So I won't offer any advice because you'll probably hate my taste hahahaha.

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  • YardGnomeYardGnome Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Guitar Hero 1 and 2.

    Do eeeeeet

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  • Waka LakaWaka Laka Riding the stuffed Unicorn If ya know what I mean.Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    God of War 2 is much better and more clever than God of War, but if you feel mindless violence is all the first had then thats pretty much GOW2 with better puzzles and tighter controls.

    I agree, SotC is a (slightly flawed) masterpeice with a brilliant story and design, the end is very sad though.

    I'll agree on Black. It's so so, If you don't like Black don't try Killzone either. Killzone has good MP tho.

    ICO is 7 kinds of awesome even today - surprisingly still fantastic even if it is a first gen PS2 title. Excellent design, great story and unique style.

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  • TzenTzen Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Black itself is actually pretty good, and if I still had an Xbox I'd probably be digging it. The Dualshock 2 is just terrible for FPS games, though. I don't suppose I could plug my KB&M into the USB ports and have those work, huh?

    GoW I really wanted to like, but I just can't get into it. The combat is just not fun, and the aesthetics are so dreary, drab and colorless. How is GoW2 by comparison?

    Edit: NM about GoW2. Thaks. :)

    As for GH, I will pick them up as soon as I can get a guitar for dirt cheap. I'm a cheap, cheap bastard.

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  • cocheseisdeadcocheseisdead Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Tzen wrote: »
    SotC (completed): Wow, this is the killer app for the PS2. Yeah, the framerate dips and the camera goes batshit sometimes, but it is just a beautiful piece of art with some truly incredible gameplay. The world is simply gorgeous, but I wish there was more of a reason to explore it than finding the Colossi. They should have added hidden items or something. This game seriously challenges my disdain for Japanese media.

    There are. Beat the game and unlock hard mode and time attack mode. Beat hard mode and unlock hard time attack mode. In either time attack mode, for every two colossi defeated you receive a hidden item. White horsie is the bestest.

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  • TzenTzen Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Yeah, I know, but I wish they were hidden in the environment to give you an incentive to explore.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Tzen wrote: »
    Yeah, I know, but I wish they were hidden in the environment to give you an incentive to explore.

    More incentive to explore? I didn't honestly need anymore exploring in the damn game. Lol...

    This says it best:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXudsGLQnEQ

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  • TiemlerTiemler Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    My absolute favorite PS2 games, now that I'm moving on for the most part to the 360...

    Mercenaries
    Ace Combat 5
    Sniper Elite
    Shadow of Rome
    Hitman: Blood Money
    urahonky wrote: »
    More incentive to explore? I didn't honestly need anymore exploring in the damn game. Lol...

    This says it best:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXudsGLQnEQ

    Nice. But this one, by the same guy, made my sides ache...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJsimN5_FJw

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  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I've noticed you don't have any 2D games on there. PS2 has a plethora of good 2D games. As I don't know your tastes, I can't recommend one. There's good 2D games in every genre for the PS2.

    Also, Okami (unless you're waiting for the other version, I forget which console's getting it) and Ratchet and clank series.

    Also, SotC: You do need to explore to find lizard tails. And peaches too? I forget if peaches did anything.

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  • Waka LakaWaka Laka Riding the stuffed Unicorn If ya know what I mean.Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    If you have'nt played RE4 yet, go and get it. The PS2 port is not too bad. If you have a PC/Wii/GC tho, I'd go for those versions first.

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  • TzenTzen Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    <--- Played RE4 to death on GC/PC. :)

    Okami: Something I've considered, but the graphics look a bit... hard to make out.

    Ratchet and Clank: I want to check these out.

    Mercenaries: I'll probably wait for 2 on the PS2 or even PC.

    Ace Combat 5 (and the others): Are they worth playing with the controller? The graphics look great, and I'd totally get them if I could buy one of those badass sticks they're sometimes bundled with.

    Sniper Elite: I might check this out on the PC. Looks interesting. Still getting over the WWII overdose, though.

    Shadow of Rome: Didn't see this one coming, and it looks pretty sweet. I'll definitely check it out.

    Hitman: I liked Hitman 2 for the PC, so I might give this a try.

    What about the Sly Cooper and Jak and Daxter? And how has Metal Arms: Glitch in the System aged?

    Thanks a lot for the recommendations! I really should get Netflix so I don't have to buy everything I want to play.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I really liked Disaster Report and Raw Danger.

    I may be the only one in the world, though.

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  • Waka LakaWaka Laka Riding the stuffed Unicorn If ya know what I mean.Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Jak and Daxter 2 is pretty decent actually, it sort of has a GTA/platformer mishmash vibe to it. Never tried 1 or 3 though.

    I almost forgot Devil May Cry 3, if you don't mind the challenge then its pretty good.

    Persona 3 has been reccomended quite a few times, but I have'nt had the time to play it.

    I reccomend renting out a hand full of games you're not sure about, for every 5 crap games on PS2 there is 1 really good one, you just have to shuffle through them. Hell of a back-catalogue to go through, you will be busy.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Metal Arms is neat, but the Ratchet and Clank series does everything it does better.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    also I think Metal Arms is a gamecube and xbox game as well, so if you were interested it'd probably look better on one of those.

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  • TiemlerTiemler Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Tzen wrote: »
    Mercenaries: I'll probably wait for 2 on the PS2 or even PC.

    Ace Combat 5 (and the others): Are they worth playing with the controller? The graphics look great, and I'd totally get them if I could buy one of those badass sticks they're sometimes bundled with.

    Sniper Elite: I might check this out on the PC. Looks interesting. Still getting over the WWII overdose, though.

    What I've seen of Mercenaries 2 hasn't been terribly encouraging. Don't wait, just get the first one.

    The Ace Combat games are absolutely worth playing with a standard controller. The planes handle very nicely. And AC5 is my favorite because of a satisfying campaign and great mission design. The only reason to pass it (for now) is if you're picking up Ace Combat 6 on the 360 soon.

    I was bored with WWII, myself, but Sniper Elite was a change of pace. Unique gameplay, mostly stealth and sniping and setting traps. And an interesting story premise. It can be a bitch to find on the PC, I hear, but the PS2 version is good.

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  • AJRAJR Some guy who wrestles NorwichRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    DMC3 definitely. I also felt kind of let down by GOW, but DMC3 is one of those games that kept me hooked from start to finish. Pick up the special edition if you can, because the extras are worth it.

    God Hand is also pretty brilliant if you love brawlers. It’s quite the challenge though, and the controls feel a little fiddly initially.

    If you haven’t already played the two Max Payne games, give them a shot.

    If you’re looking for RPGs, then the PS2 is pretty awesome too. I’d easily recommend Valkyrie Profile: Silmeria, SMT: Digital Devil Saga (1 & 2), SMT: Nocturne, the Shadow Hearts series and Breath of Fire: DQ.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    If you like Beat 'em Ups and/or Shmups, get "The Red Star" right now, it is dirt cheap by now, and utterly fantastic.

    Having just this week completed ICO I heartilly chime in with the people saying track it down.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Ico is beautiful, of course, and if you didn't get Killer7 on the Cube then now is the time.

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  • Pastoriusk2Pastoriusk2 Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    FFX is worth a play through if you enjoy the FF series. Kingdom Hearts I and II were enjoyable as well.

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  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Katamari and its sequel are great.

    Also, definately pick up the Sly Cooper games, I liked them much more than any of the Ratchet or Jak titles.

    I also liked the Rygar game, it was really fun and the design of the environments and boss battles were very well done. Game play is slightly like GOW/DMC, but for some reason (maybe nostalgia) I preferred Rygar.

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