It sounds like Roy's charge up sword attack in many ways... Charge it up long enough and it does ungodly damage, but it explodes and does a bit to you, too.
Same reason we haven't seen Zelda's moves, and why neither were playable at E4A.
Sakurai knows exactly what we want to see confirmed, and he dangles it out of our reach. He sees our curiosities, our fears, our hopes, our dreams. He revels in them. They sustain him.
So that's his game! Actually, put like that everything about this seems to click into place.
neutral - charge shot (ala samus)
down smash - mega man 3 slide
up smash - rush jump (rush comes out and turns into that spring board)
left & right smash - ??? (maybe something to change his form?)
final smash - rush assist (he jumps inside rush, who has turned into a little ship, and you can jet around the stage and fire continuously at people)
assist trophy - protoman (he hops around firing like he did in the early games when he would appear for 1-on-1 battles)
Although, I do not want him as an assist. I want him playable.
Here's how I would do Megaman if the universe was benevolent enough to let me do it.
Neutral special: Use current weapon. Default is the Mega Buster, which works like Samus' shot; it charges faster and lets him move while he charges, but it only ends up at about half the knockback and damage.
Down special: Switch weapon. He can alternate his neutral special between the Mega Buster and the weapons of any character he defeated since the round started (plus previous rounds in single player, theoretically.) Alternately, he just starts with some Robot Master classics like Metal Blade. At any rate, he definately changes color and briefly turns into a beam of light when switching weapons.
Right/Left special: Summon Beat. This is a simple projectile, but after it attacks once, it flies to attack other enemies. It can be destroyed, however. Either way, if defeated, Megaman can't use this attack again until Beat recharges.
Up Special: Summon Rush. This becomes the Rush Coil on the ground or the Rush Jet in midair.
Final Smash: I have a few ideas for this one. He can use a particularly powerful Robot Master attack. The Flashman Timestopper would be unique, if too powerful, and Gravityman's Gravity Hold is obviously overpowered. Another hit-all, like Toadman's Acid Rain, could work. Or Megaman could use the Rush Merge from Megaman 6 and 7, letting him hover and fire homing fists. I also think, if they don't become characters or costumes, that a Megaman Throughout History final smash would be neat. So X, Legends, Network Transmission, and company all appear to collectively kick an enemy's ass.
Megaman's normal and smash attacks will also use some Robot Master weapons. His down smash is a slide kick powered by Chargeman, his air attacks include the Top Spin, and his up smash can be either the Pharoah Shot or Airman's weapon. And his grab should definately resemble Gutsman's.
As for levels, I have two ideas. Doctor Wily's fortress takes place on the towers, skull heads, etc. of a usual Wily castle and features the initial Wily's Fortress music from Megaman 2. If not assists, Wily and some of his classic monsters, like the Yellow Devil, Gutsdozer, Dragon, any of the giant Metools throughout the series, and maybe even Bass will attack. The second level is the Teleportation Hatch room. The first room will be enclosed with walls at all sides, but teleporters will activate in the room, moving the fight to amalgated levels from the games. Metalman's includes conveyor belts, gears, and smashing ceilings, Gutsman's has those infamous moving platforms, Gravityman's level actually flips gravity regularly, and so on. The music is a remixed montage of a dozen Robot Master themes or so.
God...this would be so cool. Megaman would make this my favorite game ever.
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I probably already missed the discussion how if you try and cancel the landing from the jump early you only prolong the time you are vulnerable and how this is hilarious for people who would cancel to save "frames"?
See, I was expecting that as well. It's like an anti-hardcore smash player move.
The un-L cancel.
The anti-cancel thing was the very first thing to catch my eye. We know Sakurai knows about it now, but he doesn't appear to exactly be its biggest fan.
"Go on, bitch. Cancel. Dare you."
Dudes what the hell are you talking about. He specifically says it can be cancelled. He makes a point of the fact that you can do this. If he didn't want you to be able to cancel, he wouldn't have made it possible to do.
It's just punishment for doing it at the wrong time, which hurts players who aren't practiced more than it hurts the high-level players.
Same reason we haven't seen Zelda's moves, and why neither were playable at E4A.
Sakurai knows exactly what we want to see confirmed, and he dangles it out of our reach. He sees our curiosities, our fears, our hopes, our dreams. He revels in them. They sustain him.
So that's his game! Actually, put like that everything about this seems to click into place.
Well actually, I mean, he probably is watching all the forums and seeing what everyone's clamoring for, and not announcing that until the game is within weeks of release, not months. That way everyone will get more and more and more and more excited as it goes on.
I probably already missed the discussion how if you try and cancel the landing from the jump early you only prolong the time you are vulnerable and how this is hilarious for people who would cancel to save "frames"?
See, I was expecting that as well. It's like an anti-hardcore smash player move.
The un-L cancel.
The anti-cancel thing was the very first thing to catch my eye. We know Sakurai knows about it now, but he doesn't appear to exactly be its biggest fan.
"Go on, bitch. Cancel. Dare you."
Dudes what the hell are you talking about. He specifically says it can be cancelled. He makes a point of the fact that you can do this. If he didn't want you to be able to cancel, he wouldn't have made it possible to do.
It's just punishment for doing it at the wrong time, which hurts players who aren't practiced more than it hurts the high-level players.
That said, if things look bad, just tap down on the Control Stick.
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You can flip over and cancel it in midair.
However, if you try to cancel just before landing, you’ll make a fool of yourself, and you’ll be vulnerable for even longer, so watch out.
Basically, you can cancel out of it, yes. However if you try to cancel out of it last minute (similar to L-cancel which is done to recover faster) then you "make a fool of yourself and you'll be vulnerable for even longer".
I understand that to say, If you're fall is not going to be good (hit anyone) and you need to cancel, then you can cancel out but it also makes you vulnerable in the air. You CAN'T use this cancel to ONLY take out the vulnerability after the landing, because then we'll make you flub it and you have to be vulnerable even longer. So doing this isn't going to "save you frames" so you can attack again sooner. AKA: sucks to be you, tournament players who cancel everything to reduce "lag".
I probably already missed the discussion how if you try and cancel the landing from the jump early you only prolong the time you are vulnerable and how this is hilarious for people who would cancel to save "frames"?
See, I was expecting that as well. It's like an anti-hardcore smash player move.
The un-L cancel.
The anti-cancel thing was the very first thing to catch my eye. We know Sakurai knows about it now, but he doesn't appear to exactly be its biggest fan.
"Go on, bitch. Cancel. Dare you."
Dudes what the hell are you talking about. He specifically says it can be cancelled. He makes a point of the fact that you can do this. If he didn't want you to be able to cancel, he wouldn't have made it possible to do.
It's just punishment for doing it at the wrong time, which hurts players who aren't practiced more than it hurts the high-level players.
Seriously. Smashboarder Dedede players will have it down to like the exact frame of the last possible moment that they're allowed to cancel.
Also, what the heck do you mean by "we know Sakurai knows about it now, but he doesn't appear to exactly be its biggest fan?" If he wasn't a big fan of it, why the hell did he intentionally include it in every single Smash game, this one included?
Same reason we haven't seen Zelda's moves, and why neither were playable at E4A.
Sakurai knows exactly what we want to see confirmed, and he dangles it out of our reach. He sees our curiosities, our fears, our hopes, our dreams. He revels in them. They sustain him.
So that's his game! Actually, put like that everything about this seems to click into place.
Well actually, I mean, he probably is watching all the forums and seeing what everyone's clamoring for, and not announcing that until the game is within weeks of release, not months. That way everyone will get more and more and more and more excited as it goes on.
Is...is he watching us right now? Did anyone else get a strange, perhaps supernatural shiver run down their backs? It would be hilarious, though, if he's cripping ideas from us now. Maybe THAT'S what the delay is for. "Wait, that dork on the internet is brilliant! Give us another three months; we're finding a way to code Ridley in!"
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How the hell are we going through threads faster, now?
You crazy kids.
Yeah, I was about to ask that, too. Probably all of that stupid fanfic crap they were talking about a while back. Also probably talking about Krystal Fox.
Why did I mention fanfics and Krystal in the same paragraph?
I will never understand why all you guys that make blue dot posts have to do so. I really have no trouble finding this thread without it. It always says 'Super Smash Brothers' in the title in some form or another, except when it was Large Scuffle X. And that was awesome.
How the hell are we going through threads faster, now?
You crazy kids.
Yeah, I was about to ask that, too. Probably all of that stupid fanfic crap they were talking about a while back. Also probably talking about Krystal Fox.
Why did I mention fanfics and Krystal in the same paragraph?
Most likely because the two are inevitably linked.
Is...is he watching us right now? Did anyone else get a strange, perhaps supernatural shiver run down their backs? It would be hilarious, though, if he's cripping ideas from us now. Maybe THAT'S what the delay is for. "Wait, that dork on the internet is brilliant! Give us another three months; we're finding a way to code Skull Kid in!"
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CokomonOur butts are worth fighting for!Registered Userregular
How the hell are we going through threads faster, now?
You crazy kids.
Yeah, I was about to ask that, too. Probably all of that stupid fanfic crap they were talking about a while back. Also probably talking about Krystal Fox.
Why did I mention fanfics and Krystal in the same paragraph?
Most likely because the two are inevitably linked.
So it is essentially like the storyline for Star Fox Command?
How the hell are we going through threads faster, now?
You crazy kids.
Yeah, I was about to ask that, too. Probably all of that stupid fanfic crap they were talking about a while back. Also probably talking about Krystal Fox.
Why did I mention fanfics and Krystal in the same paragraph?
Most likely because the two are inevitably linked.
So it is essentially like the storyline for Star Fox Command?
Did someone say Krystal? You know, she was announced yesterday...
I'm not sure how much mailing a bottle of soda would cost, but I am willing to eat said cost if I lose.
I am a rootbeer gourmand. I shall demand an exotic rootbeer that is not made/sold in my region.
That's cool. Would Canadian rootbeer count? Right now I'm in Canada.
To everyone else: really, the bets are just funny and silly things that we're willing to do when our sort-of pride is on the line. I mean, it's not the whole point here: I won't hold anybody to this if they lose to me (though I'll follow through if I do), and regardless of what happens that means that I'll always have King Riptor, The Muffin Man, Dareth Ram, HylianBunny, and TehSpecter to play with. It's as much a friend-building activity as anything else.
I will reiterate: I will use Ganondorf to take on anyone on this board. I would use Ness too but we don't know if he's in yet. These matches don't have to have any bets attached or anything: at heart I'm really just looking for somebody to play with.
experts' l-cancel instincts will fail them -- sucks to be them
To repeat mntorankusu, what are you guys talking about? L-Cancelling is a move experts do to cut down on lag upon landing so they can attack faster. Dedede's cancelling simply lets you abandon the attack before you hit the ground, like breaking out of Kirby's rock smash. It's a completely different technique, why exactly are you guys bringing them together?
experts' l-cancel instincts will fail them -- sucks to be them
To repeat mntorankusu, what are you guys talking about? L-Cancelling is a move experts do to cut down on lag upon landing so they can attack faster. Dedede's cancelling simply lets you abandon the attack before you hit the ground, like breaking out of Kirby's rock smash. It's a completely different technique, why exactly are you guys bringing them together?
Because they want to rub something in competitive player's faces and are hilariously misconstruing what exactly DDD's move is.
Did someone say Krystal? You know, she was announced yesterday...
*insert image here*
Sorry, I worked hard on this...
I...I might just hate you now.
You're on notice.
If I make one of MegaMan will that make us solid again?
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Hey. Gino. BET ME.
We're both Wisconsinites, right? You Madison, me Watertown. I'm assuming we're both cheeseheads. Best-of-3. Loser takes a Chicago Bears av/sig combo for a month.
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As for Dedede's recovery, I'd imagine you could cancel it at the very peak and use all that vertical height.
I'm a bit confused by his Down B attack. What exactly does it do... he swings it like a normal hammer and it explodes?
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So that's his game! Actually, put like that everything about this seems to click into place.
Here's how I would do Megaman if the universe was benevolent enough to let me do it.
Neutral special: Use current weapon. Default is the Mega Buster, which works like Samus' shot; it charges faster and lets him move while he charges, but it only ends up at about half the knockback and damage.
Down special: Switch weapon. He can alternate his neutral special between the Mega Buster and the weapons of any character he defeated since the round started (plus previous rounds in single player, theoretically.) Alternately, he just starts with some Robot Master classics like Metal Blade. At any rate, he definately changes color and briefly turns into a beam of light when switching weapons.
Right/Left special: Summon Beat. This is a simple projectile, but after it attacks once, it flies to attack other enemies. It can be destroyed, however. Either way, if defeated, Megaman can't use this attack again until Beat recharges.
Up Special: Summon Rush. This becomes the Rush Coil on the ground or the Rush Jet in midair.
Final Smash: I have a few ideas for this one. He can use a particularly powerful Robot Master attack. The Flashman Timestopper would be unique, if too powerful, and Gravityman's Gravity Hold is obviously overpowered. Another hit-all, like Toadman's Acid Rain, could work. Or Megaman could use the Rush Merge from Megaman 6 and 7, letting him hover and fire homing fists. I also think, if they don't become characters or costumes, that a Megaman Throughout History final smash would be neat. So X, Legends, Network Transmission, and company all appear to collectively kick an enemy's ass.
Megaman's normal and smash attacks will also use some Robot Master weapons. His down smash is a slide kick powered by Chargeman, his air attacks include the Top Spin, and his up smash can be either the Pharoah Shot or Airman's weapon. And his grab should definately resemble Gutsman's.
As for levels, I have two ideas. Doctor Wily's fortress takes place on the towers, skull heads, etc. of a usual Wily castle and features the initial Wily's Fortress music from Megaman 2. If not assists, Wily and some of his classic monsters, like the Yellow Devil, Gutsdozer, Dragon, any of the giant Metools throughout the series, and maybe even Bass will attack. The second level is the Teleportation Hatch room. The first room will be enclosed with walls at all sides, but teleporters will activate in the room, moving the fight to amalgated levels from the games. Metalman's includes conveyor belts, gears, and smashing ceilings, Gutsman's has those infamous moving platforms, Gravityman's level actually flips gravity regularly, and so on. The music is a remixed montage of a dozen Robot Master themes or so.
God...this would be so cool. Megaman would make this my favorite game ever.
Dudes what the hell are you talking about. He specifically says it can be cancelled. He makes a point of the fact that you can do this. If he didn't want you to be able to cancel, he wouldn't have made it possible to do.
It's just punishment for doing it at the wrong time, which hurts players who aren't practiced more than it hurts the high-level players.
Well actually, I mean, he probably is watching all the forums and seeing what everyone's clamoring for, and not announcing that until the game is within weeks of release, not months. That way everyone will get more and more and more and more excited as it goes on.
Basically, you can cancel out of it, yes. However if you try to cancel out of it last minute (similar to L-cancel which is done to recover faster) then you "make a fool of yourself and you'll be vulnerable for even longer".
I understand that to say, If you're fall is not going to be good (hit anyone) and you need to cancel, then you can cancel out but it also makes you vulnerable in the air. You CAN'T use this cancel to ONLY take out the vulnerability after the landing, because then we'll make you flub it and you have to be vulnerable even longer. So doing this isn't going to "save you frames" so you can attack again sooner. AKA: sucks to be you, tournament players who cancel everything to reduce "lag".
Also, what the heck do you mean by "we know Sakurai knows about it now, but he doesn't appear to exactly be its biggest fan?" If he wasn't a big fan of it, why the hell did he intentionally include it in every single Smash game, this one included?
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You crazy kids.
Come on, Sakurai.
You know you want to.
Is...is he watching us right now? Did anyone else get a strange, perhaps supernatural shiver run down their backs? It would be hilarious, though, if he's cripping ideas from us now. Maybe THAT'S what the delay is for. "Wait, that dork on the internet is brilliant! Give us another three months; we're finding a way to code Ridley in!"
Yeah, I was about to ask that, too. Probably all of that stupid fanfic crap they were talking about a while back. Also probably talking about Krystal Fox.
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Most likely because the two are inevitably linked.
Hey Sakurai, if you're reading this. Put Mega Man in. Thanks.
So it is essentially like the storyline for Star Fox Command?
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Did someone say Krystal? You know, she was announced yesterday...
That's cool. Would Canadian rootbeer count? Right now I'm in Canada.
To everyone else: really, the bets are just funny and silly things that we're willing to do when our sort-of pride is on the line. I mean, it's not the whole point here: I won't hold anybody to this if they lose to me (though I'll follow through if I do), and regardless of what happens that means that I'll always have King Riptor, The Muffin Man, Dareth Ram, HylianBunny, and TehSpecter to play with. It's as much a friend-building activity as anything else.
I will reiterate: I will use Ganondorf to take on anyone on this board. I would use Ness too but we don't know if he's in yet. These matches don't have to have any bets attached or anything: at heart I'm really just looking for somebody to play with.
Anybody else wanna set up a Brawl match?
I think that's the Blue Falcon, Captain Falcon's car.
I...I might just hate you now.
You're on notice.
To repeat mntorankusu, what are you guys talking about? L-Cancelling is a move experts do to cut down on lag upon landing so they can attack faster. Dedede's cancelling simply lets you abandon the attack before you hit the ground, like breaking out of Kirby's rock smash. It's a completely different technique, why exactly are you guys bringing them together?
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Who knows, maybe he'll be the only heavy character with Gliding ability.
Because they want to rub something in competitive player's faces and are hilariously misconstruing what exactly DDD's move is.
Also - it's a B move. You can't L Cancel B moves.
Want any other conditions? Got any level preferences, item preferences, time vs. stock, etc.?
It's Twilight Princess Link.
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OH.
I'M RETARDED.
If I make one of MegaMan will that make us solid again?
We're both Wisconsinites, right? You Madison, me Watertown. I'm assuming we're both cheeseheads. Best-of-3. Loser takes a Chicago Bears av/sig combo for a month.
After that picture?
If you don't, you'll be dead to me.
Chop chop!
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