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Hooking a PS3 via monitor and computer...

XenoXeno Registered User regular
edited October 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
Alright guys, I will be buying a 80gb PS3 soon and I really want to integrate it with my computer setup. I just have a few questions.

1. I have the Samsung 226bw hooked up to my computer right now. How do I go about hooking my PS3 up to this? I can't check the connectors right now, but the specs say dvi-d and d-sub. Not sure about any of them, haha.
But yeah, I think my comp is connected via dvi and I'm guessing d-sub is worse. I would want to connect the PS3 via dvi and my computer via d-sub. Is this possible? I have an option on my monitor called "source" which changes from analog to digital, digital showing the computer screen.

2. How does sound work? Would it play through my speakers?
2.b) I have a 5.1 speaker setup right now but don't have a sound card that supports 5.1. I still hear sound from the extra speakers though. Would the PS3 be able however to utilize those extra speakers?

3. Would my computer have to be on to play the PS3? What about sound? Would the computer have to be on to hear sound?


Thanks a lot guys. Your answers will determine whether I buy a PS3 at THIS time or later.

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  • kathoskathos Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I think you need to use a VGA adapter for this. Correct me if I'm wrong anyone.


    EDIT: Here's a link, I think this is what you're looking for:

    http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/video-to-vga.html

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  • RNEMESiS42RNEMESiS42 Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    But, that monitor is most likely DVI?

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  • XenoXeno Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Hmmm, ok, I just checked. I have two DVI ports on my computer. One of them is hooked up to the monitor.

    So I would need a HDMI to DVI convertor, gotcha.

    Is it possible for me to hook up the PS3 to the second DVI with a HDMI to DVI converter? If I do that, then how to I play the PS3?

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  • flatlinegraphicsflatlinegraphics Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Xeno wrote: »
    Hmmm, ok, I just checked. I have two DVI ports on my computer. One of them is hooked up to the monitor.

    So I would need a HDMI to DVI convertor, gotcha.

    Is it possible for me to hook up the PS3 to the second DVI with a HDMI to DVI converter? If I do that, then how to I play the PS3?
    no, you cannot hook the output of the ps3 into the output of your video card/computer. the two dvi plugs there are for dual monitor setups.

    here is the back of your monitor:
    http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/24-001-096-09.jpg
    the dvi would be hooked up to your computer, and the ps3 (with a hdmi->vga connector) hook up to the other.
    when playing, flip the switch on the front of the monitor. when computing, flip it back. you do not need to shut down the computer. leave it on, and just switch inputs.
    sound will still be a problem.

    if you want to push the signal out of the ps3, into the computer, and then back out to the monitor, you will need a video capture card. to play the sound via the computer's sound system, you will need a audio in. hopefully spidf or lightpipe (for surround sound).

    alternately, you can find a kvm switch that will essentially do what i said in the first paragraph. but that doesn;t solve your sound issue (unless you have a kvm switch with audio). some stereo/surround systems have this built in.

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  • XenoXeno Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Xeno wrote: »
    Hmmm, ok, I just checked. I have two DVI ports on my computer. One of them is hooked up to the monitor.

    So I would need a HDMI to DVI convertor, gotcha.

    Is it possible for me to hook up the PS3 to the second DVI with a HDMI to DVI converter? If I do that, then how to I play the PS3?
    no, you cannot hook the output of the ps3 into the output of your video card/computer. the two dvi plugs there are for dual monitor setups.

    here is the back of your monitor:
    http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/24-001-096-09.jpg
    the dvi would be hooked up to your computer, and the ps3 (with a hdmi->vga connector) hook up to the other.
    when playing, flip the switch on the front of the monitor. when computing, flip it back. you do not need to shut down the computer. leave it on, and just switch inputs.
    sound will still be a problem.

    if you want to push the signal out of the ps3, into the computer, and then back out to the monitor, you will need a video capture card. to play the sound via the computer's sound system, you will need a audio in. hopefully spidf or lightpipe (for surround sound).

    alternately, you can find a kvm switch that will essentially do what i said in the first paragraph. but that doesn;t solve your sound issue (unless you have a kvm switch with audio). some stereo/surround systems have this built in.

    Alright, so let me try to get this straight.

    I would hook the monitor to the computer via dvi like it is now. Then, using a hdmi>vga connector, I would hook it up straight to my monitor. Then I would be able to switch between the two. However, wouldn't it be better the other way perhaps? Hook my monitor via vga and PS3 via DVI using a hdmi>DVI connector? I want to watch movies aswell, so wouldn't this be a better resolution? Sorry for my ignorance.

    Ok, so the video problem is solved. But how do I solve the sound problem? Your jargon confuses me greatly, haha. I have a pretty basic sound system.
    http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10081250&catid=#

    Honestly, it doesn't even have to be surround sound. Just sound would be awesome. You said something about a capture card. Do you mean a tv tuner card? The ones with the red, yellow, and white inputs on them? Is that what I would need to be installed on my computer?

    Thanks for your help guys. Much appreciated.

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  • flatlinegraphicsflatlinegraphics Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    dvi is technically supposed to be 'better' than vga, but i've personally never noticed much of a difference between the two. but i'm also using glass (crt) rather than lcd.

    sorry, about the jargon. spdf and lightpipe are ways to transmit multiple sound channels. typically, you have headphone jacks (minijacks, 1/8" jacks, etc). those only transmit stereo (l/r). the other types transmit multichannel (surround). that speaker system is not (reading the specs) technically surround. its fake surround out of a stereo source. it has only one input, so you are going to have to provide sound. you can either switch the plugs around, or run sound into your computer and then out to the speakers. most computers have line in jacks. look on the back of the computer. you can keep the computer on and running (and playing sound) while the monitor is displaying the ps3.

    most capture cards have both audio and video ins on them. so with a card like this:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116016
    that would pipe in sound and video into your computer. once its there, you can do whatever you want with it, including displaying it on the monitor and hearing sound out of your speakers. plus, you can set your computer up as a media center / tivo / dvr.

    no endorsement for the card, it was just the first capture card that had HD that i found. you will have to check your computer for open pci/pci express slots and make sure your os likes it.

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  • XenoXeno Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Alright, so my PS3 is hooked up lets say straight to the monitor.

    Now, I install that card in my computer. Now I use the av cables and hook that up to my PS3 and plug them into the red and white socket on the card correct? And jsut leave the yellow plug hanging.

    This will give me sound through my speakers and the video through VGA or DVI on the monitor? Is this correct?

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  • flatlinegraphicsflatlinegraphics Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    if you hook the ps3 directly to the monitor, you do not need a card. the card is only if you want to import the video into your computer.

    i'm not familiar with the out puts on a ps3. does it have component audio out (red/white rca cables)? if so, an rca->1/8 jack is needed. connect the output of the ps3 to the rca->1/8" jack, and the 1/8" jack into the line in on the computer.

    the ps3 is now like this:
    video->monitor
    audio->computer->speakers

    i hope this is helping and not confusing you more.. i'm the type that rewires his stereo system for fun..

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  • XenoXeno Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
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    See where it says AV multi out? Yeah, you plug the cable that comes with the PS3 into there, then the other end has component ends or composite ends that you hook up to the tv.

    It doesn't have what you said.

    But yeah, I think your on a other level here. I have no idea what a 1/8 jack is, haha. I'm the type of guy that reads the "Thank you for purchasing..." part of the manual. I am green as they come.

    Just still confused about sound and how to do it. I mean, we are going to have to deal with the red and white plugs correct? Say if I get the card, and I install it. Now, the computer is hooked up via vga but I also plug in the AV cable and plug the red and white plug into the card. Would that give me sound and picture at the same time?

    I'm at school, but when I get home, I'll check out the back of my computer.

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  • XenoXeno Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Just wanted to add.

    Ok, here is the back of my speakers sub woofer.
    http://techgage.com/viewimg/?img=/reviews/logitech/x-540/logitech_x540_08.jpg&desc=Logitech%2520X-540%25205.1%2520Speakers

    Ok, tell me if this works. I connect the AV portion of the cable (red and white) to the back of the sub woofer.

    I know I won't have PC audio, but thats fine. When I want it, I can switch back and forth between it by taking the cables out. So does this work?

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  • flatlinegraphicsflatlinegraphics Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    an 1/8 connector is a headphone jack. that thing that says optical is the lightpipe thing i was talking about before.
    looking around the net, there seem to be a bunch of people trying to do this, and the ps3 is just a pain. sony wants you to go buy a bravia instead of an adapter.

    if i have time tonight, i'll see if i can make a diagram..

    ninja edit:
    yeah, that should work. you'd have to swap cables out, but if thats fine then thats fine. less adapters and plugs and stuff == better quality.
    you'll need to find if the yellow video part can be converted to either dvi or vga for the monitor.

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