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Something seems seriously wrong with the pricing of GeForce graphics cards. It says on THREE websites that a 7800 is about $130, but an 8500 is about $60. Is it just me, or is that weird? Higher equals better, right? So the price would be higher for better cards, according to my knowledge of economics.:|. I got this information from nvidia's website, microcenter.com, and ebay. If you can't trust ebay, who can you trust? If someone could clear this up, i would appreciate it.
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8500: MegaPixels/Second:1800 MegaTextures/Second:3600
It's like comparing a brand new Honda Civic with a 2 year old Lexus SUV.
The first digit (7___/8___) is the series, like a model year; the last digits (_800/_500) is the model. (Civic/Accord, ES, LX...)
the 8___ series also supports DirectX 10, which Vista likes.
Nope.
Just look at the range of current video cards with in your price range and then google reviews. Based on the results pick a card
This is why you should always do actual research on stuff like this instead of just looking at numbers and suffixes. This is exactly how people end up with shitty graphics cards that have 512MB of vram on them. They think they have hot shit because MOR IZ BETER.
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Wait, what? What are the rest of your specs?
And how high of a resolution are you playing this on?
I thought my friend was nuts when he said something similar, only he has an 8800GTS 320mb version. Yeah, it was his 24" monitor and him cranking one setting way too high. Check the shadows settings too, those can kill shit.
I often joke about his crazy monitor, often calling it the IMAX theatre or something along those lines.
the first is generational (a full product LINE), the 2nd is wehre that particular product is with in the line
so an 8600 is a mid range product, while an 8800 is a high end one. an 8400 is a low end product.
a 7800 would be a high end product from the previous generation.
typically a midrange product performs somewhere relative to the high end product of the previous generation, though thats not necessarily true this time around.
On that note instead of buying a duo core processor at about 2.33 Ghz you should get a 4.0 Ghz P4 because it's faster!!!
>_>
Like has been stated you're comparing the finest video cards they offered from their last "group" to the pretty ok ones they offer in this one
You want the stuff on the first dxdiag page and the stuff under display(make sure the 7800s are actually both working too, and that you don't just have two in there and are using one!)
Bios: Phoenix-award BIOS v6.00PG
Processor- AMD Athlon (tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs)
Memory- 2048 mb ram
Page file- 450 mb used, 3489 mb available
DirectX version- DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Display
Name- NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT
Manufacturer- NVIDIA
Chip type- GeForce 7800 GT
DAC type- integrated RAMDAC
Approx. total memory- 256 mb
Current display mode- 1280x1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Moniter- plug and play moniter
Do you guys need the drivers information, too? Just tell me, and I'll post it. Also, is there any way to check if im using both graphics cards? Thanks for the help.
Then I come in here and remember how goddamn retarded PC equipment is, and then I throw up in my mouth a little bit when I see that this guy has two fucking video cards and is only running crysis at low, and I quickly regained my sanity.
The people that are giving this guy (admitedly low levels) of shit should take a step back and realize ust how goddamn intimidating PC spec stuff is.
The guy running Crysis on low is doing something wrong, man. Chill. PC stuff is only hard if you've been out of it a while, and even then it just takes a quick look at a benchmark chart to get your bearings.
As for the OP, the 7800GT is still a very respectable card. Unless you desperately need to upgrade for some reason, I'd stick with it. If the need is desperate, though, get an 8800GT.
2 graphics cards (SLi/CrossFire) have never been a good idea in terms of price to performance ratio.
Nah man your graphics card is old and your processor is slow. You're lucky to run Crysis on low.
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edit at Shogun: Umm, no? Why don't you look how far he is above the minimum specs for crysis before you blast his 1.5 year old computer for being "old and slow."
http://www.slizone.com/page/slizone_faq.html
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=938853
That's life in technology unfortunately. Even today's hottest system with $500 video cards and quad core CPUs don't run the game that well. At lower settings and lower resolutions a top of the line system can achieve a decent frame rate but max the shit out and you're chugging. He's using an older generation graphics card (and SLI is not going to help him that much, assuming he has it set up properly to begin with) and frankly his CPU is indeed slow, according to technology today. If he had a Core 2 duo he would most definitely see performance increases.
OP your system is fine as I'm sure it runs most everything very well, however Crysis is just stupidly demanding. Hopefully in the future (or better yet at launch) it will be optimized to the point where more can run it, but this the way it is. However this doesn't mean you should feel bad, as even the hottest shit today will be tested by Crysis.
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A 4400+ X2 is the recommended processor to run the game at max settings. So no, his 4600+ X2 isn't slow. Something is amiss.
No way. My 8800GTS (one step down from top of the line) runs everything at max with a silky smooth frame rate. I don't even own a quad core CPU either. SLI isn't a very good choice, yeah, but it should be doing better than low. It depends what res you're running at, though. If it's really high I could understand bad frame rates.
Just Crysis, check in your drivers control panel for more. Any game that doesn't support sli cards won't show any performance gain, even if you do force it through the control panel. The command for enabling sli is only for Crysis. Also, you didn't look very hard.
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I call shenanigans. I have an 8800GTS and my system is tuned. I get silky smooth framerates on medium settings only (Except at the end of the demo, when the engine takes a dump).
I think he's really limited by his VRAM more than anything. In SLI, you only have as much VRAM as a single card since both cards need the exact same data loaded. I'm pretty sure the fact that my GTS is the 320MB version is bottlenecking me. (For the curious, Athlon X2 6000+, 2GB dual channel RAM (4-4-3-10 bitches), 3 drives in a RAID 0 - also, my vidcard is eVGA's overclocked version).
Crysis is future proofed to hell and back. I don't see anything wrong with this since this is the first game released utilizing Crytek's new engine. I would hope current gen systems aren't topping out a brand new engine.
The game looks like ass on low. Far worse than what a 7800GTX should be able to pump out. What's more, it ran terrible too. The framerate was not much improved. After tweaking some of the graphical settings, I got it to look much better and surprisingly run better too.
What I did:
In the graphical settings, the key is to set the Shaders option and the Shadows option to LOW. Everything else can be HIGH. Additionally, my monitor is a 1680x1050 LCD, I turned the resolution down to 1280x800. The output will be scaled up to fit the screen, but the video card has to render so much less pixels. Lastly, make sure Antialiasing is OFF. You'll have to play around with the settings more yourself, but for me that gives me a game that doesn't have any noticeable frame juddering (except occasionally in cutscenes, but who cares about those)
Okay, I downloaded the drivers, restarted my computer, and I got one of those yellow boxed in the bottom right of the screen that said sli was available. I started it, and I got to a page that let me turn on sli. Is the all I need to do? Am I using both cards now, and do I still need to enter that command in the console? Thanks.
Oh wow. It looks so much better now. Thank you all so much. I never guessed that I was only using one of the cards. I can even play it on high, but like TechBoy said, it's a very good slideshow. I havent tried what you said yet, but I will.
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Quoting this just to fix the fucking tags.