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First off the US has had several hundred years in which to form a culture although historical longevity is nowhere near as important as you think it is. Certainly longer than the majority population of, say, Australia or New Zealand and do you think they're lacking in culture, too?
Nor is the US the only country to have large immigrant populations, not to mention that culture is changing and adapting and the combination of other cultures in itself leads to new cultures.
Please tell me how precious history has intrinsically affected other countries but not the US, and how long it takes for a culture to arise.
I am pretty sure someone has spent far too long telling the U.S. that it doesn't have a culture and so everyone is all durrhurr no culture.
Culture doesn't have to be some racial traditions, from the old country or whatever.
The U.S. has plenty of things. Some of them are regional, although most of the regions have equivalents. I'll keep my examples to the south as that is the only place I've lived, but
Places like waffle house, sure it may be just some little restaurant but it is a cultural thing. American Football, whether you like it or not it sure is there and quite big. Baseball, although it's on the decline. In music we have the blues and hiphop both genres that are quintessentially American. We have Hemingway and Vonnegut and countless other authors.
I mean really what are those things if they aren't our culture?
I've always thought the U.S. has a lot of culture. Especially with music and movies and such like.
The US has a fuckton of culture that is unique to it and can appear completely alien to non-US people.
You know there's that "ugly American" stereotype?
That's indicative of a cultural difference.
Also, Americans are fat as all fucking hell and apparently feel a deep sense of entitlement. Is that...please tell me that that's not how the whole world is. I was talking to a Chinese girl and a German girl a little while back and they both seemed to think that America was shitty in certain ways and it was really nice to hear that, mainly because I agreed and it confirmed that what I see over here is not the worldwide standard.
Oh, shit, that's another thing. We apparently export culture. Like in the form of TV and movies and fast food, or something? One of my Italian relatives (by which I mean actual Italian, not Italian-American) was wearing a G-Unit shirt when he visited a while ago. So I'm thinking that, due to this cultural-export situation, it may be difficult for me to see other cultures without actively looking.
At my age, hot chicks who aren't single are increasingly rare. If I really have trouble finding one, there are dating sites and things like that where I can go. I'm sure there is a homosexual equivalent, even though I don't know first-hand.
Oh look right there. I explained that even though the population for me is in decline, there are still avenues where I could, hypothetically, find what remains of that population. And I postulate that perhaps there may be similar avenues for gays. But of course you just drop that part of my response to make a nonsensical argument.
I picked it out because it was a completely fucking stupid and irrelevant point. I'm not arguing with the rest of what you said.
Aside from that, you didn't actually offer anything useful in any way. Thanks for sharing though, I guess?
The point is that I'm sure that there are ways to meet other gay people without having to dress like a giant fucking fag all the time. In fact, I've met gay people who clearly register as gay but who do so without being over-the-top flaming queermo retards. So I am suggesting that your "only 3% of restaurants will do the substitution and they don't tell you until you're already seated" analogy is kinda weak.
Like I said: not actually telling me anything I don't already know. But your restaurant analogy is still crappy, because it's really not the same as just "ordering the substitute", because homosexuals comprise such a small percentage of the population and if they're not standing out like huge queers it's impossible to pick them out from the crowd without engaging in discussion with them.
Also Defender I don't want to argue with you any more because I am already in a crappy mood and I don't want to get in an even crappier mood so whatever.
The US has been touched by so many cultures since its inception (and still is being touched) that it could be a couple hundred more years before there's any "common" culture that it can be identified by.
I've always thought the U.S. has a lot of culture. Especially with music and movies and such like.
The US has a fuckton of culture that is unique to it and can appear completely alien to non-US people.
You know there's that "ugly American" stereotype?
That's indicative of a cultural difference.
Also, Americans are fat as all fucking hell and apparently feel a deep sense of entitlement. Is that...please tell me that that's not how the whole world is. I was talking to a Chinese girl and a German girl a little while back and they both seemed to think that America was shitty in certain ways and it was really nice to hear that, mainly because I agreed and it confirmed that what I see over here is not the worldwide standard.
Oh, shit, that's another thing. We apparently export culture. Like in the form of TV and movies and fast food, or something? One of my Italian relatives (by which I mean actual Italian, not Italian-American) was wearing a G-Unit shirt when he visited a while ago. So I'm thinking that, due to this cultural-export situation, it may be difficult for me to see other cultures without actively looking.
My sarcasm detector's a little off tonight so I can't tell if you're agreeing with me, baiting me, making fun of me or are trying to have a discussion and I'm perfectly willing to have the latter; I just have to ask before I make a fool of myself
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Kovakdid a lot of drugsmarried cher?Registered Userregular
waffle house is not fucking culture its a lame ass chain of restaurants that serves shitty food at all hours
Whether you agree or not
many late night adventures have involved waffle house and I would say that a good majority of the people i know have similar experiences.
That extends across the entire southeast too
It gets talked about enough. I personally consider it cultural
Much like the fast food culture.
In fact the entire chain restaurant thing is an American cultural thing. It sure is easy to go hey no culture if you disqualify all the things that make it cultural.
If you can count foreign food as identifying with a specific culture than I will claim the Big Mac as part of my own.
At my age, hot chicks who aren't single are increasingly rare. If I really have trouble finding one, there are dating sites and things like that where I can go. I'm sure there is a homosexual equivalent, even though I don't know first-hand.
Oh look right there. I explained that even though the population for me is in decline, there are still avenues where I could, hypothetically, find what remains of that population. And I postulate that perhaps there may be similar avenues for gays. But of course you just drop that part of my response to make a nonsensical argument.
I picked it out because it was a completely fucking stupid and irrelevant point. I'm not arguing with the rest of what you said.
Aside from that, you didn't actually offer anything useful in any way. Thanks for sharing though, I guess?
The point is that I'm sure that there are ways to meet other gay people without having to dress like a giant fucking fag all the time. In fact, I've met gay people who clearly register as gay but who do so without being over-the-top flaming queermo retards. So I am suggesting that your "only 3% of restaurants will do the substitution and they don't tell you until you're already seated" analogy is kinda weak.
Like I said: not actually telling me anything I don't already know. But your restaurant analogy is still crappy, because it's really not the same as just "ordering the substitute", because homosexuals comprise such a small percentage of the population and if they're not standing out like huge queers it's impossible to pick them out from the crowd without engaging in discussion with them.
NO IT IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO IDENTIFY GAY PEOPLE WHO DON'T ACT LIKE SCOTT THOMPSON
I DO NOT HAVE PERFECT GAYDAR BUT EVEN I CAN DO IT AND I DON'T EVEN TRY TO BECAUSE I DON'T CARE
Furthermore, you're only showing that my statement about identifying whether a hot girl is single or not is actually very relevant; I can look at a hot girl and the chance of her being single is lower and lower as I age. But yet I can still somehow find them. It's not impossible, the point is that I don't find them just by looking at random strangers. I find them by having things in common with them, be it friends or activities or just living near them or whatever. I also talk to women, even ones I'm not considering for hot penisings. I also have backup options like internet dating sites. I have great difficulty imagining that gay people do not have equivalent avenues.
people blame japan for their manga and animu shit when it was our comic books and movies which were over there in mass from our soldiers during the occupation
i mean yeah the japanese added their own twistedness to the books
but still
I don't want to say that gay people shouldn't act in such-a-such a way because man they're free to do what they want. And I mean, it evidently works for them because if they're all ostentatiously gay then at least they don't have the trouble of working out who sucks dick, and since they all love the same shitty music I guess they all have a lot in common from the get-go.
But it's not a culture I relate with or, really, even understand. It's sort of like if you had this band you really liked, but then you discovered that most fans of the band have taken to wearing huge flamingo suits everywhere despite the fact that to you the band has absolutely nothing to do with flamingos. It'd be kind of "what in the hell". That is how I feel right now. Like I can't wrap my head around how these people have interpretted exactly the same data in such a radically different way.
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Kovakdid a lot of drugsmarried cher?Registered Userregular
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Defender don't you know
gay people can only talk to dudes they want to penis
and they can only want to hot penis dudes they know are gay
I've always thought the U.S. has a lot of culture. Especially with music and movies and such like.
The US has a fuckton of culture that is unique to it and can appear completely alien to non-US people.
You know there's that "ugly American" stereotype?
That's indicative of a cultural difference.
Also, Americans are fat as all fucking hell and apparently feel a deep sense of entitlement. Is that...please tell me that that's not how the whole world is. I was talking to a Chinese girl and a German girl a little while back and they both seemed to think that America was shitty in certain ways and it was really nice to hear that, mainly because I agreed and it confirmed that what I see over here is not the worldwide standard.
Oh, shit, that's another thing. We apparently export culture. Like in the form of TV and movies and fast food, or something? One of my Italian relatives (by which I mean actual Italian, not Italian-American) was wearing a G-Unit shirt when he visited a while ago. So I'm thinking that, due to this cultural-export situation, it may be difficult for me to see other cultures without actively looking.
My sarcasm detector's a little off tonight so I can't tell if you're agreeing with me, baiting me, making fun of me or are trying to have a discussion and I'm perfectly willing to have the latter; I just have to ask before I make a fool of myself
This is all said in seriousness. There are cultural differences, or else Americans who go to foreign countries would blend right in. Saying that America has no culture is the same as saying "everybody else has an accent, but people from my neighborhood don't."
Also, the many different types of cultures in existence here are mostly invisible to people not involved in that culture.
Like before I got into sailing, I knew there were boats at the marinas. I had no idea of the the many different sailing clubs, regattas, schools, commercial opportunities, annual events, expeditions to other countries to race internationally, etc.
it leads to where I inquire why she is being a bitch
It's funny because usually if you're not a bitch it gets noticed and boy does it get you a lot of hatred for absolutely no reason!
it's pretty easy to understand the concept of not being a bitch doesn't anger people
and so i would think being a bitch is a concept a lot of people understand
they understand it because they don't like it
like cancer
or
genocide
do you see
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Kovakdid a lot of drugsmarried cher?Registered Userregular
Also, the many different types of cultures in existence here are mostly invisible to people not involved in that culture.
Like before I got into sailing, I knew there were boats at the marinas. I had no idea of the the many different sailing clubs, regattas, schools, commercial opportunities, annual events, expeditions to other countries to race internationally, etc.
Exactly.
A lot of the culture is specific to certain things, and you wouldn't know about it unless you were involved in it.
I mean I know jewish culture exists, but I really couldn't cite anything but vague stereotypes about how it actually is. Now just because there isn't stereotypes for boating, doesn't mean the culture isn't there.
Basically, gay people are fine, and nobody likes fags.
But this is the issue; most of "visible" gay culture is built on the backs of fags
What are the rest of the gays who are just normal people who like dicks instead of cooters supposed to do?
Act like every single other person on the planet, except where most men have makeouts with hot babes, just have makeouts with hot dudes instead. Like at a restaurant, if you want a baked potato instead of french fries, you know, you just make the substitution.
Yes this is an apt analogy
If you assume that only 3 out of every 100 restaurants do the substitute
Also they don't tell you if they do until you've sat down at the table
This is all said in seriousness. There are cultural differences, or else Americans who go to foreign countries would blend right in. Saying that America has no culture is the same as saying "everybody else has an accent, but people from my neighborhood don't."
Right, yes, we're on the same page then
It's really hard to explain where the differences begin because there are so many. Getting exposed to a lot of American TV shows certainly helps to highlight these differences. And yeah, it's probably hard to see unless you've really gone and lived somewhere else.
At my age, hot chicks who aren't single are increasingly rare. If I really have trouble finding one, there are dating sites and things like that where I can go. I'm sure there is a homosexual equivalent, even though I don't know first-hand.
Oh look right there. I explained that even though the population for me is in decline, there are still avenues where I could, hypothetically, find what remains of that population. And I postulate that perhaps there may be similar avenues for gays. But of course you just drop that part of my response to make a nonsensical argument.
I picked it out because it was a completely fucking stupid and irrelevant point. I'm not arguing with the rest of what you said.
Aside from that, you didn't actually offer anything useful in any way. Thanks for sharing though, I guess?
The point is that I'm sure that there are ways to meet other gay people without having to dress like a giant fucking fag all the time. In fact, I've met gay people who clearly register as gay but who do so without being over-the-top flaming queermo retards. So I am suggesting that your "only 3% of restaurants will do the substitution and they don't tell you until you're already seated" analogy is kinda weak.
Like I said: not actually telling me anything I don't already know. But your restaurant analogy is still crappy, because it's really not the same as just "ordering the substitute", because homosexuals comprise such a small percentage of the population and if they're not standing out like huge queers it's impossible to pick them out from the crowd without engaging in discussion with them.
NO IT IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO IDENTIFY GAY PEOPLE WHO DON'T ACT LIKE SCOTT THOMPSON
I DO NOT HAVE PERFECT GAYDAR BUT EVEN I CAN DO IT AND I DON'T EVEN TRY TO BECAUSE I DON'T CARE
I think if you're inside a culture, you can take a lot of things for granted and not realize they are a unique aspect of said culture. It'd be a lot easier for someone outside the culture to see the differences. I think the US has quite a bit of culture, but it's so much a part of everyday life it can be hard to recognize as something special.
maybe that's why all those fags wear glitter and neon colors
so they show up
Maybe, I dunno
But unless there's a really obvious pointer, like a dude who is talking to girls without staring at their breasts, and who is actually capable of making them laugh, or until I hear them and they have the accent, I honestly can't separate "normal" gay dudes from straight dudes.
maybe that's why all those fags wear glitter and neon colors
so they show up
Maybe, I dunno
But unless there's a really obvious pointer, like a dude who is talking to girls without staring at their breasts, and who is actually capable of making them laugh, or until I hear them and they have the accent, I honestly can't separate "normal" gay dudes from straight dudes.
so you think normal dudes are incapable of making girls laugh
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Did i do something to offend you personally?
it leads to where I inquire why she is being a bitch
I am pretty sure someone has spent far too long telling the U.S. that it doesn't have a culture and so everyone is all durrhurr no culture.
Culture doesn't have to be some racial traditions, from the old country or whatever.
The U.S. has plenty of things. Some of them are regional, although most of the regions have equivalents. I'll keep my examples to the south as that is the only place I've lived, but
Places like waffle house, sure it may be just some little restaurant but it is a cultural thing. American Football, whether you like it or not it sure is there and quite big. Baseball, although it's on the decline. In music we have the blues and hiphop both genres that are quintessentially American. We have Hemingway and Vonnegut and countless other authors.
I mean really what are those things if they aren't our culture?
You know there's that "ugly American" stereotype?
That's indicative of a cultural difference.
Also, Americans are fat as all fucking hell and apparently feel a deep sense of entitlement. Is that...please tell me that that's not how the whole world is. I was talking to a Chinese girl and a German girl a little while back and they both seemed to think that America was shitty in certain ways and it was really nice to hear that, mainly because I agreed and it confirmed that what I see over here is not the worldwide standard.
Oh, shit, that's another thing. We apparently export culture. Like in the form of TV and movies and fast food, or something? One of my Italian relatives (by which I mean actual Italian, not Italian-American) was wearing a G-Unit shirt when he visited a while ago. So I'm thinking that, due to this cultural-export situation, it may be difficult for me to see other cultures without actively looking.
Like I said: not actually telling me anything I don't already know. But your restaurant analogy is still crappy, because it's really not the same as just "ordering the substitute", because homosexuals comprise such a small percentage of the population and if they're not standing out like huge queers it's impossible to pick them out from the crowd without engaging in discussion with them.
The best culture is one built on meat.
Not a hat person.
Well the one gay buddy I have is not camp at all. Just dresses like a trendy Asian.
Also, meat hats.
My sarcasm detector's a little off tonight so I can't tell if you're agreeing with me, baiting me, making fun of me or are trying to have a discussion and I'm perfectly willing to have the latter; I just have to ask before I make a fool of myself
Whether you agree or not
many late night adventures have involved waffle house and I would say that a good majority of the people i know have similar experiences.
That extends across the entire southeast too
It gets talked about enough. I personally consider it cultural
Much like the fast food culture.
In fact the entire chain restaurant thing is an American cultural thing. It sure is easy to go hey no culture if you disqualify all the things that make it cultural.
If you can count foreign food as identifying with a specific culture than I will claim the Big Mac as part of my own.
NO IT IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO IDENTIFY GAY PEOPLE WHO DON'T ACT LIKE SCOTT THOMPSON
I DO NOT HAVE PERFECT GAYDAR BUT EVEN I CAN DO IT AND I DON'T EVEN TRY TO BECAUSE I DON'T CARE
Furthermore, you're only showing that my statement about identifying whether a hot girl is single or not is actually very relevant; I can look at a hot girl and the chance of her being single is lower and lower as I age. But yet I can still somehow find them. It's not impossible, the point is that I don't find them just by looking at random strangers. I find them by having things in common with them, be it friends or activities or just living near them or whatever. I also talk to women, even ones I'm not considering for hot penisings. I also have backup options like internet dating sites. I have great difficulty imagining that gay people do not have equivalent avenues.
i mean yeah the japanese added their own twistedness to the books
but still
But it's not a culture I relate with or, really, even understand. It's sort of like if you had this band you really liked, but then you discovered that most fans of the band have taken to wearing huge flamingo suits everywhere despite the fact that to you the band has absolutely nothing to do with flamingos. It'd be kind of "what in the hell". That is how I feel right now. Like I can't wrap my head around how these people have interpretted exactly the same data in such a radically different way.
gay people can only talk to dudes they want to penis
and they can only want to hot penis dudes they know are gay
duh
This is all said in seriousness. There are cultural differences, or else Americans who go to foreign countries would blend right in. Saying that America has no culture is the same as saying "everybody else has an accent, but people from my neighborhood don't."
It's funny because usually if you're not a bitch it gets noticed and boy does it get you a lot of hatred for absolutely no reason!
Like before I got into sailing, I knew there were boats at the marinas. I had no idea of the the many different sailing clubs, regattas, schools, commercial opportunities, annual events, expeditions to other countries to race internationally, etc.
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it's pretty easy to understand the concept of not being a bitch doesn't anger people
and so i would think being a bitch is a concept a lot of people understand
they understand it because they don't like it
like cancer
or
genocide
do you see
Exactly.
A lot of the culture is specific to certain things, and you wouldn't know about it unless you were involved in it.
I mean I know jewish culture exists, but I really couldn't cite anything but vague stereotypes about how it actually is. Now just because there isn't stereotypes for boating, doesn't mean the culture isn't there.
you could always call ahead.
Right, yes, we're on the same page then
It's really hard to explain where the differences begin because there are so many. Getting exposed to a lot of American TV shows certainly helps to highlight these differences. And yeah, it's probably hard to see unless you've really gone and lived somewhere else.
Looking for my camera
Well then my gaydar doesn't work.
maybe that's why all those fags wear glitter and neon colors
so they show up
I will introduce you to some nice gay boys
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Waffle House is fucking delicious and don't you say one more word
waffle house is delicious
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IHOP is terrible compared to waffle house
Maybe, I dunno
But unless there's a really obvious pointer, like a dude who is talking to girls without staring at their breasts, and who is actually capable of making them laugh, or until I hear them and they have the accent, I honestly can't separate "normal" gay dudes from straight dudes.
so you think normal dudes are incapable of making girls laugh