Super Smash Bros. Brawl -- "WELL? How do you like it?!"

Faustum

SMASH BROTHERS THREAD! HOORAY. OP by cloudman originally, I believe. And without further ado...

READ THIS OR YOU COULD GET BANNED BY GRUMPY PEOPLE

Cardboard Tube wrote:

Don't be a dick! I'm sick of all the flaming, insults and bullshit that goes on in this thread. Enough tournament vs casual bullshit, keep it civil or keep it elsewhere. It's only a sodding game. If someone is being an ass, report them. Do not engage.

This isn't a chat thread. This thread is about Smash Brothers. Some idiot hijacked it to be about X Men at some point. On topic forum. On Topic thread. The topic is smash brothers.

No further warnings after this point, people flaming and being tossers in this thread will be seen as doing it deliberately to annoy me and probably banned because so help me I am in no mood.

ADDENDUM: DO NOT MAKE POSTS THAT SIMPLY SAY "BLUE DOT". CONTRIBUTE SOMETHING YOU JERK.



Update - 11/15/07 -- Thanks Qorzm!
<Meta Knight: Special Moves>

I introduced some of Meta Knight’s special moves in a previous post titled "Four Special Move Types".

But, since he has so many peculiar moves, I wanted to explain them again.

<Standard Special Move: Mach Tornado>



Suck them up!

Your inertia carries you left and right. Tap the button to rise up off the ground a bit.

<Side Special Move: Drill Rush>



Rush!!!

You spin like a drill, plowing into people. You can also change your direction slightly.



Push your enemies up into the air!



Of course, you can push them down, too.

<Up Special Move: Shuttle Loop>



Rise up while launching your sword up...



You can also flutter through the air and glide.

This is a move you use to glide. It’s kind of like Kirby’s wing ability.

<Down Special Move: Dimensional Cape>



The familiar move from the trailer.

He wraps himself in his cape, disappears, and reappears with this move.



Tilt the stick to move the position where he’ll reappear!



If you’re pressing the attack button, you’ll unleash a surprise attack as you reappear!

Use the Dimensional Cape as a precursor to an attack. If you just can’t get the opportunity, then forget about attacking.



<Kirby: Meta Knight's Revenge>

I was just thinking how it’s been more than ten years since I made this game...

It was in Kirby Super Star that Meta Knight rode out on the Battleship Halberd to govern Dream Land. This is a jazz arrangement of the music from back then.
WELL? How do you like it?!

After going with the "serious touch" of the Halberd for the Kirby stage, I’m now thinking that maybe this overly peppy song is a little incongruous...


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E for All - New Gaming Event


Our first gameplay video posted courtesy of Faustum. Another gameplay video, also courtesy of Faustum.

FINAL SMASH COMPILATION VIDEO. Hooray Faustum!

Joshua368 found a fuckton of videos, most of which are recent.

Zec posted an adventure mode preview showing off Donkey and Diddy Kong.

StriderEdge posted an adventure mode preview showing off Kirby and Peach.

Cloudeagle posts yet another adventure mode preview showing off Pit and Mario.

Faustum posts a final adventure mode preview called Worlds Collide featuring Wario

InvisibleInk posted this interesting article: Nintendo World Reports Impressions of the E for All demo

Ultrachrist found an Official E for All Firsthand Impressions Thread put together by SmashBoards

Four Ways To Play:

Note: Each method is fully customizable so that you can map all of the controller functions yourself.

Known Returning Characters:

New Characters:

The Missing:

Missing characters from SSB and SSBM

Jigglypuff
Luigi
Captain Falcon
Ness

Gannondorf
Marth
Roy
Game and Watch
Mewtwo
Young Link
Dr. Mario
Pichu
Falco

Interesting Fact: All of these characters have one thing in common: They were all hidden characters in their respective games. None of the returning characters so far were locked when you first started up the two games.

Final Smashes:

Mario - Mario Finale

Link - Triforce Slash

Pikachu - Volt Tackle

Samus - Zero Laser

Bowser - Giga Bowser Transformation

Donkey Kong - Konga Beat

Yoshi - Super Dragon

Pit - Palutena's Army

Diddy - Rocketbarrel Barrage

Pokemon Trainer - Triple Finish

Fox - Landmaster

Kirby - Cook Kirby

Peach - Peach Blossom

Meta Knight - Galaxia Darkness

Ike - Great Aether

New Toys:

Crates and Barrels: What better to start with than basics. These item containers have been revamped to support the themes of certain levels.


Assist Trophy: This is the Pokeball of the Nintendo Universe. Any kind of cameo you could think of comes from within...


Known Assist trophies:

Hammer Bros.


Nintendog


Samurai Goroh


Dr. Wright


Knuckle Joe


Devil


Andross-retro


Lyn


Mr. Resetti


Excitebike


Lakitu


Little Mac


Gray Fox

Pokeball: An all-time favorite which still randomly gives you a pokemon to cause massive destruction with.


Known Pokemon:

Chikorita


Goldeen


Groudon


Deoxys


Munchlax


Piplup


Meowth

Gooey Bomb: The Gooey Bomb acts as a sticky Remote Mine. While stuck to a character, it can be passed back after making contact with another player.


Cracker Launcher: This projectile launcher isn't as racist as it sounds. It might be more recognizable as a 'Roman Candle'. We saw it briefly in the short clip from Min-E3.


Banana Peel: Because Cliche's work.


Bumper: A return from the 64, relatable to Melee's Flipper item. A new twist leaves this possible to plant mid-air.


Pitfall: The item from Animal Crossing. Surprisingly, it caries its ability from Animal Crossing over very well. Simply making characters fall thru holes or thru platforms.


Smoke Ball: An original item, soley based on obscurity. This item deals no damage, but rather actually just blinds the player from the screen.


Franklin Badge: Debuting from the Mother Series (Earthbound), this relates to Fox's Reflector, like the Screw Attack Ball relates to Samus' Screw Attack. Basically, it reflects projectiles.


Spicy Curry: When a Fire Flower just can't suit your flaming needs.


Golden Hammer: A coat of paint works wonders.

Announced Stages:

Battlefield (Smash Bros.):

Delfino Plaza (Mario Sunshine):

Yoshi's Island (Yoshi's Island):

Lylat Cruise (Starfox):

Bridge to Eldin (Legend of Zelda):

Smashville (Animal Crossing):

Rumble Falls (Donkey Kong):

Skyworld (Kid Icarus):

Castle Seige (Fire Emblem):

WarioWare Ince. (WarioWare)

Pokemon Stadium 2 (Pokemon)

Battleship Halberd (Kirby)

Shadow Moses Island (Metal Gear Solid)

New Pork City (Earthbound)

PictoChat (Nintendo DS)

The Summit (Ice Climber)

Norfair (Metroid)

Such Pretty Music:

First, a giant list of composers, accompanied by the new Menu Music:

Menu Theme

Now just some small clips to some music samples we've been given:

Yoshi's Story: Ending

Metroid: Ridley Battle

Ocarina of Time Medly

Star Fox: Space Armada

Kid Icarus: Underworld

Animal Crossing: Go K.K. Rider

Pokemon Stadium/Evolution

SSBB Theme Song

Metal Gear: MGS4 Love Theme

WarioWare: Ashley’s Theme

WarioWare: Ashley’s Theme (Japanese Version)

Fire Emblem: Fire Emblem Theme

Kirby: Meta Knight's Revenge

Series Represented:

So far, we've been given a list of series that have been represented, but as we get this list, its come to us out of order. We currently have gaps as shown:


1. Smash Brothers
2. Donkey Kong
3. StarFox
4. Kirby
5. F-Zero
6. Metroid
7. EarthBound/Mother
8. Pokemon
9. Zelda
10. Mario
11. Yoshi
12. Fire Emblem
13. ???
14. Ice Climbers
15. Animal Crossing
16. Wario
17. Metal Gear
18. Kid Icarus
19. ???
20. Sonic the Hedgehog
21. Nintendo DS

*21 Is the highest number we're aware of, it in no way indicates that it is the final number

Another Interesting Fact: By smash tradition, there has never been a stage from a game without a character from that series representing this. That and an interview on the subject lead many to believe that an Animal Crossing character is all but confirmed.

However the Pictochat stage has thrown a monkey wrench into this theory! This is because Sakurai is insane.

Super Secret Tourney Stuff

SUPER SECRET ELITE FIRST PA BRAWL TOURNAMENT EVER SIGN UP LIST:
(PM Nickle if you're in. Let's see if we can get this up to 128. Include your state (or Large Canadian State), please.)
UPDATED 11/04

1. Nickle IL
2. Guek WA
3. BlueBlue MS
4. Speakeasy CA
5. TempleWolf MN
6. quovadis13 ON, CA
7. cloudeagle OK
8. Joshua368 SC
9. Djiem Canada somewhere, I think
11. Redfenix
12. Mntorankusu KY
13. Ronen NY
14. Phanman
15. Pata
16. shyguy NY
17. Sharp10r NC
18. LordNibbler NY
19. ruiisu FL
20. Behemoth WA
21. Bulbasaur ON, CA
22. MetaHybrid ON, CA
23. willmannyeatthat MA
24. ArcSyn NJ
25. Munkus Beaver
26. Shabutie CA
27. Brue CA
28. Arcibi KY
29. Squashua FL
30. urahonky OH
31. Aydr WA
32. Faustum TX
33. Fishguy NM
34. Khavall PA
35. Improvolone FL
36. Goatmon CA
37. Niceguyeddie616 MA
38. Reigner PA
39. Gino WI
40. Zealous One CA
41. Woot427 IL
42. Monsty ND
43. Gunwarrior (Maybe) CA
44. Taramoor WA
45. Captain Crunch BC, CA
46. Gorilla Salad TX
47. Snork CT/PA
48. Jrosey WA
49. Tehcoolryan CA
50. Atheraal
51. Toothy KY
52. JLM-AWP
53. Zimarooski TX
54. Yalborap
55. Jarhog
56. Rehab NE
57. Rollout MTL, QC, CA
58. Gravija IL
59. Aioua WA
60. Hylianbunny ON, CA
61. SkyGheNe CT
62. BahamutZERO CA
63. Vann Diras IN
64. No Great Name East Coast
65. AshtonDragon NL, CA
66. Bibble TN
67. InivisibleInk OR
68. aaronsedge AR
69. Mushroom Pie
70. Greg343 KS
71. Corp.Shephard NC
72. Kupi NC
73. Kor NM
74. TehSpectre
75. JustinChar99 FL
76. Godfather TX
77. Zen Vulgarity FL
78. Manetheren AL
79. mts CA
80. RedMageDarion ME
81. Tachyon CO
82. Zampano NH
83. Zek NJ
84. Inquisitor CA
85. Manaleak34 WA
86. Cloudman MO
87. mr_ekim CA
88. Ruins MD
89. ChopperDave
90. Qorzm CA
91. CaspianX CA
92. Fig-D CA
93. Spoof
94. Mtvcdm WI
95. Dusda OR
96. Geod VA
97. Red Gear NY
98. Mighty TX
99. Brokecracker IN
100. HylianZora OH

Rehab

Okay, so I completely forgot to include a shout out there.

So thanks to Kor, XoB, and others for their contributions.

And speaking of contributions . . .

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Forumer Contributions:

This section of the opening post will be dedicated to any forumer contributions made to this thread by way of creating something that will be helpful for organizing online play, the setup thereof, or sharing pertinent information such as user names and friend codes. In addition to this, there is now a portion explaining more advanced Smash terminology as well.


The Penny Arcade Super Smash Brothers Brawl Online Tournament List!

This is all organized courtesy of Nickle. There are still plenty of spots available here if you want to sign up.

About that:

Captain Crunch wrote: »

When is the tournament going to start? Like on [strike]Dec. 3rd[/strike] February 10th or a while after it comes out?

Ruins wrote: »

I think it was a week or two after the game comes out. To let everyone get techniques down.

Nickle wrote: »

I think we're a little better off now, actually, than when it was coming out near the holidays. I think probably about a week or two after. Maybe two saturdays after release? I dunno.

There be secret things in progress behind the scenes, right now, so we'll see where we end up by then.

And here is the tournament list itself:

SUPER SECRET ELITE FIRST PA BRAWL TOURNAMENT EVER SIGN UP LIST:
(PM Nickle if you're in. Let's see if we can get this up to 128. Include your state (or Large Canadian State), please.)

1. Nickle IL
2. Guek WA
3. BlueBlue MS
4. Speakeasy CA
5. TempleWolf MN
6. quovadis13 ON, CA
7. cloudeagle OK
8. Joshua368 SC
9. Djiem Canada somewhere, I think
11. Redfenix
12. Mntorankusu KY
13. Ronen NY
14. Phanman
15. Pata
16. shyguy NY
17. Sharp10r NC
18. LordNibbler NY
19. ruiisu FL
20. Behemoth WA
21. Bulbasaur ON, CA
22. MetaHybrid ON, CA
23. willmannyeatthat MA
24. ArcSyn NJ
25. Munkus Beaver
26. Shabutie CA
27. Brue CA
28. Arcibi KY
29. Squashua FL
30. urahonky OH
31. Aydr WA
32. Faustum TX
33. Fishguy NM
34. Khavall PA
35. Improvolone FL
36. Goatmon CA
37. Niceguyeddie616 MA
38. Reigner PA
39. Gino WI
40. Zealous One CA
41. Woot427 IL
42. Monsty ND
43. Gunwarrior (Maybe) CA
44. Taramoor WA
45. Captain Crunch BC, CA
46. Gorilla Salad TX
47. Snork CT/PA
48. Jrosey WA
49. Tehcoolryan CA
50. Atheraal
51. Toothy KY
52. JLM-AWP
53. Zimarooski TX
54. Yalborap
55. Jarhog
56. Rehab NE
57. Rollout MTL, QC, CA
58. Gravija IL
59. Aioua WA
60. Hylianbunny ON, CA
61. SkyGheNe CT
62. BahamutZERO CA
63. Vann Diras IN
64. No Great Name East Coast
65. AshtonDragon NL, CA
66. Bibble TN
67. InivisibleInk OR
68. aaronsedge AR
69. Mushroom Pie
70. Greg343 KS
71. Corp.Shephard NC
72. Kupi NC
73. Kor NM
74. TehSpectre
75. JustinChar99 FL
76. Godfather TX
77. Zen Vulgarity FL
78. Manetheren AL
79. mts CA
80. RedMageDarion ME
81. Tachyon CO
82. Zampano NH
83. Zek NJ
84. Inquisitor CA
85. Manaleak34 WA
86. Cloudman MO
87. mr_ekim CA
88. Ruins MD
89. ChopperDave
90. Qorzm CA
91. CaspianX CA
92. Fig-D CA
93. Spoof
94. Mtvcdm WI
95. Dusda OR
96. Geod VA
97. Red Gear NY

Smash Brothers Community Terminology, Parts 1 and 2

Brought to you by Chopper Dave. Very thorough look at advanced Smash terms.

About that:

ChopperDave wrote: »

Whew, that took way longer than I thought it would

I wrote the first part of this guide myself, hopefully it does a decent enough job describing some of the most-confused terms. The other, lesser important terms I just lifted from a thread in Smashboards.

It's...long, so I've split it up over two posts. The first part is all most of you will want to read, anyway, the second part (from Smashboards) has got a lot of specific, kind of unnecessary terms. I deleted some of the MOST superfluous ones (BYOC = bring your own controller, for example :roll:), but for the most part it remains intact. By the way, if there's any terms I forgot to add or didn't describe effeciently, please let me know.

Without further ado...:

Part 1

To access Part 1, CLICK HERE!

Part 2

To access Part 2, CLICK HERE!

Here is something that could be seen as Part 3 of the Smash Bros Terminology. It goes over common misconceptions about tournament players and seeks to help end the SmashBoards versus casual play arguments which always seem to pop up in these threads. Everyone should take a look at these discussions:

Chopper Dave talks about the Penny Arcade/SmashBoards feud

More talk about the competitive community by Chopper Dave

Joshua368 who is also a member of SmashBoards tries to straighten things out

Flash-based replica Brawl Stage Editor

This is a really cool page designed by mntorankusu.

About that:

mntorankusu wrote:

Hold Ctrl and roll over the grid to quickly select squares. Hold Shift to quickly deselect.

This is a fan-made stage editor based on the one in the upcoming game, Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Little is known about the in-game editor, so I don't make any guarantees that this one will produce stages anything like the real game. If there are any glaring inaccuracies, contact me at mntorankusu at gmail dot com.

Also, you probably shouldn't let things overlap the wide triangle piece if you want to be able to reproduce your stage in the game. It is too difficult to disallow it in this Flash editor, but I'm fairly certain you won't be able to overlap pieces in Brawl's.

You might not be able to rotate them in Brawl either. Try not to be too disappointed if it turns out the stages you create using the rotate feature can't be reproduced in Brawl.

Link to the Brawl Stage Editor:

http://mntorankusu.googlepages.com/brawlstageeditor.html

And here is an example of what you can do:

MetaHybrid wrote:

Customizable signatures that display user names and friend codes.

And last but not least, here is something that mntorankusu and Geod have been working on.

About that:

Zek wrote:

It would be awesome if somebody wrote up a sig generator that puts your name/code on there, with a version for each character.

mntorankusu wrote:

That would be lovely. I wish I knew how to do that.

I can totally provide all of the source images if someone wants to do it.

mntorankusu wrote:

Update (and to bring this topic back from page 2): Geod and I are working on the Brawl sig generator.

mntorankusu wrote: »

Update on the WIP sig generator.

Geod added the ability to change the background color. Now all you dudes who wanted them to be unique for each character will be able to just change the background color to match.

And here is what they look like:

mntorankusu wrote:

Qorzm

please add

98. Qorzm CA

to the tourney list at the bottom

Frosteey

This time in Latin!

Actually, no...the Japanese is better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAJhN5n9nBE

Screampunk

Faust, throw a quote tag around the "Don't be a dick" section at the top, so people know that Tube said it.

Crimson King

So that thing Rayquaza does in the trailer? Totally not Dragonbreath. Just so you know.

Cervetus

Yeah, it's Tail Whip.

Rehab

Qorzm wrote: »

please add

98. Qorzm CA

to the tourney list at the bottom

I already have you as number 90 on my post.

After awhile I'll add the stage editor too.

Aydr

I can't help but feel that the link which led me here did not make all my dreams come true.

I still don't see a Team Rocket update in the OP, for example. Though most of my Smash-related dreams have already come true by this point, so it must be difficult.

RCagent

So guys, just so you know. Giovanni sent that fucking Rayquaza. That fucker is on the Haliberd chilling with Bowser, Meta-Knight, Wario, and other Villains while petting his Persian. He'll then see a video of Fox reflecting Rayquaza's "Hyper Beam/Tail Whip/Splash" and be like "Holy Shit."

Vray

Crimson King wrote: »

So that thing Rayquaza does in the trailer? Totally not Dragonbreath. Just so you know.

Orally produced Big bang attack.


At least that's what it said on Fox's scouter.

Agentflit

Maybe add the level mockup editor to the op?

( http://mntorankusu.googlepages.com/brawlstageeditor.html )

Crimson King

RCagent wrote: »

So guys, just so you know. Giovanni sent that fucking Rayquaza. That fucker is on the Halberd chilling with Bowser, Meta-Knight, Wario, and other Villains while petting his Persian. He'll then see a video of Fox reflecting Rayquaza's "Hyper Beam/Tail Whip/Splash" and be like "Holy Shit."

Giovanni as playable character?

Rehab

Indeed. I'm just looking for some stages people made to put up along with it now.

Peewi

This sucks. Video update and I can't see it until I get home because the computers at school suck so much.

Also Blue dot.

RCagent

I still think Leon will be in it guys. He was in a game that made me dust off my gamecube, Capcom really wanted Resident Evil 4 to be their gift to the gamecube (despite porting it to the PS2.)

I mean, doubters may say its because he has a gun.


There are no rules against Rocket Launcher/Mine Launchers and Knives are there? Or badass head crushing suplexes? Right? Right?

Faustum

RCagent wrote: »

honk honk honk

I am going to shoot you.


Also, I've added in PictoChat, MetaKnight's Final Smash, The Summit, and the new Fire Emblem music. PM or just post if there is anything glaring missing. I am also going to add the stage builder into the stage section.

EDIT: Actually, I'll let Rehab take care of the entire Stage Builder shebang in his post.

Houk

RCagent wrote: »

There are no rules against Rocket Launcher/Mine Launchers and Knives are there? Or badass head crushing suplexes? Right? Right?

Nope. That's why we have Snake.

RCagent

Houk wrote: »

RCagent wrote: »

There are no rules against Rocket Launcher/Mine Launchers and Knives are there? Or badass head crushing suplexes? Right? Right?

Nope. That's why we have Snake.

As good as Snake is, he lacks the Jacket.

Spoit

So...which SSBB thread? There's like three of them at the top of the page

Goatmon

What's the scouter say about this guy's power level?

Yes, yes, I know.

Screampunk

I saw that, Goat.

Faustum

Spoit wrote: »

So...which SSBB thread? There's like three of them at the top of the page

I count two, and one of them has 100 pages.

RCagent

Goatmon wrote: »

What's the scouter say about this guy's power level?

Yes, yes, I know.

I guess it would be Level 100, but who knows....it could be something over 900-

Faustum

Okay, from now on whoever posts the updates in a neat and pretty and accurate-to-the-source in this thread, do that, and then I can steal and put it in the OP instead of my ugly shit. With credit, of course.

cooljammer00

probably really old, but i'm watching
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9bqdOH3js0

what is Zero Suit Samus' final smash? Cause it brings her suit back, whatever it is.

Faustum

cooljammer00 wrote: »

probably really old, but i'm watching
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9bqdOH3js0

what is Zero Suit Samus' final smash? Cause it brings her suit back, whatever it is.

Crystal Flash. Brings her suit back and does minor area of effect damage, I believe.

Rehab

Faustum wrote: »

Also, I've added in PictoChat, MetaKnight's Final Smash, The Summit, and the new Fire Emblem music. PM or just post if there is anything glaring missing. I am also going to add the stage builder into the stage section.

EDIT: Actually, I'll let Rehab take care of the entire Stage Builder shebang in his post.

Oh awesome, I was just going to check on the stages there.

But yeah, you take care of the updates and I'll take care of the community stuff.

Jragghen

Just wanted to repeat that the fact that he did the track in latin makes me grin.

Edited because I'm an idiot

SilverWind

Mmm, songs in Latin.

Screampunk

Jragghen, I may have to kill you.

Just maybe.

Also, I like Fox's scouter. Screw the naysayers!

Rehab

Jragghen wrote: »

Just wanted to repeat that the fact that he did the track in latin makes me grin.

blue dot

NO BLUE DOT!

ChopperDave

Yo Kor, I posted a slightly more up-to-date version of the Terminology Faq in the last thread here and here.

If you want to change your second-post to reflect that it would be super-spiffy!

Screampunk

Kor?

You mean Faust?

Faustum

He means Rehab!

Rehab

Cool, thanks Mushroom Pie!

Wyborn

Yeah, this version of Fox is kind of silly-looking but the reflection of that attack back at Rayquaza is indescribably bad-ass.

The only thing that could be cooler than this is every standard character having a "major" boss at the end of their respective paths.

Like Ness with Giygas.

Munkus Beaver

Remember gents:

This is not a chat thread.


Keep that in mind, since I'd like for this thing to stay around.

Screampunk

Munkus Beaver wrote: »

Remember gents:

This is not a chat thread.


Keep that in mind, since I'd like for this thing to stay around.

How do you feel about this wonderous new pokemon, Munkus?

Screampunk

Wyborn wrote: »

Like Ness

I like how you think.

Munkus Beaver

going by the previous games, it's pretty much a given that the legendaries are going to pop up in the pokeballs.