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[WOW] Druid thread - l2tree!

FodderFodder Registered User regular
edited August 2008 in MMO Extravaganza
Druids are pretty sweet, we can tank, do melee dps, heal really well, do spell dps, and we bring some awesome buffs. Plus we get to turn into huge chickens or trees. However, turning into things causes certain problems, such as not being able to cast all of our spells.

Some druids are tree, and if you're a tree you can't cast healing touch, the huge direct heal. Don't worry though, just follow this advice and you'll be fine!

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    Little JimLittle Jim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2007
    is dat sum hps

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    FodderFodder Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    it is sum mad hps

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    BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Excellent

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    OboroOboro __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2007
    but he will never be as amusing as that lovable bear

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    FodderFodder Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    What're some good pieces with +hit before kara for a feral druid?

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    AnialosAnialos Collies are love, Collies are life! Shadowbrook ColliesRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    *invades new druid thread* Mmm...nice in here...not too much talk of bears yet.

    On that note...DOOMKIN!!! I needs a list of gear that will help me hit the spell hit cap. Twould be glad to link you to my armory, but evil internet blocks teh site /sob.

    For those of you with way too much time on your hands and a helping spirit, my drood is Treelicker on Korgath.

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    FightTestFightTest Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Can't wait for the new patch to make leveling faster. Druid is 39 now and I just want to hit 70 so I can go moonkin and fire lazerz at people in PvP. Plus I get bored really easily and there's nothing a druid can't do if you collected some gear and go pay for a respec.

    Grinding sucks a fat knob, though. Only gotten two characters to 70, and they were both the only chars I had that were 60 when TBC released. And the second one took me forever and only got played when his rest exp was full. On the bright side it's getting faster the higher level I get.

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    EriEri Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    That was cute, Fodder. Did you make that?

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    FodderFodder Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    No, I stole it from the PAA forums >.>

    I have no idea who made it, or I would have said something :(

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    <3<3 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I have sum mad hps.

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    What is this 'Tree' you speak of?

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    JunpeiJunpei Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Treez is fer nubz DOOD! Kitteh fer lyfe!

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    Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    FightTest wrote: »
    Can't wait for the new patch to make leveling faster.

    Currently mired at 35, myself. Least it'll get faster on tuesday.

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    Beyond NormalBeyond Normal Lord Phender Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Mine is stuck at 46 or something. I want a Boomkin!

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    DingusDingus Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    greatz dood you maek G8 #1 poast!

    Anyway, thinking of rolling another druid to try out moonkin space lazors, I'm not about to respec my main as he is my guild's main tank. However, even with the lowered leveling requirements would I still be better off slamming my wang in a sliding glass door over and over than leveling up all the way pure balance?

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    dojangodojango Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Re: Slamming one's wang in a sliding glass door.

    I tried to level as balance once I got to level 40, and found it unacceptably slow. So I switched back to feral, and then re-switched at 60, once I got access to the sweet, sweet outlands gear. Made things much better.

    Of course, my gear was particular sub-par at the level 40 stage... mostly "of the eagle". If you could get some of the new and upgraded cloth gear, perhaps things would be better.

    You say you're a main tank? I was thinking of respeccing my tree into a tank. There's a shortage of tanks these days, and having 2 healing chars is a bit overkill. What sort of numbers would I need to shoot for to be able to tank heroics? (Kara being reserved for my priest these days).

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    tehmarkentehmarken BrooklynRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    my druid is already sitting at 51, so i'll barely get to enjoy the benefits of 2.3. But still, I'm gonna power my way to outlands before thanksgiving :D

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I only rolled a night elf druid for the cat! because the tauren one looks like a wyven without wings. Mulgore also sucks {I will never level another character in Mulgore because of the whole bag debacle 14 levels with just a backpack}


    My brother's druid is a feral. His girl friend's is a tree healer, mine is a tree as well.
    Mine is level 54 and has been since March so I will think about playing it in the patch again.

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    Mobile-DMobile-D Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    dojango wrote: »
    You say you're a main tank? I was thinking of respeccing my tree into a tank. There's a shortage of tanks these days, and having 2 healing chars is a bit overkill. What sort of numbers would I need to shoot for to be able to tank heroics? (Kara being reserved for my priest these days).

    Get the full Clefthoof set and Earthwarden. You're aiming for 416 defense skill. Past that, just max your armor and sta, without neglecting agi too badly. 20K+ armor and 15K+ HP is a good target. (In bear-form, of course)

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    DingusDingus Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    dojango wrote: »
    Re: Slamming one's wang in a sliding glass door.

    I tried to level as balance once I got to level 40, and found it unacceptably slow. So I switched back to feral, and then re-switched at 60, once I got access to the sweet, sweet outlands gear. Made things much better.

    Of course, my gear was particular sub-par at the level 40 stage... mostly "of the eagle". If you could get some of the new and upgraded cloth gear, perhaps things would be better.

    You say you're a main tank? I was thinking of respeccing my tree into a tank. There's a shortage of tanks these days, and having 2 healing chars is a bit overkill. What sort of numbers would I need to shoot for to be able to tank heroics? (Kara being reserved for my priest these days).

    Other people have better ideas of stats, just get the heavy clefthoof set, maybe some +def trinkets, manimal's sinch, umbrahowl's thingie maybe the purple hat and you should be good for the start of kara

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited November 2007
    I was going to criticize the OP, but the spoiler hid gold.

    Now, I've been tempted to switch to Restoration (currently Balance). Prior to 2.0, healing as a druid was mind-numbing and less fun than a paladin (one druid for HoTs, EVERYONE ELSE SPAM HT). It's more interesting to heal now, and who can resist the twist?

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    dojangodojango Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    I was going to criticize the OP, but the spoiler hid gold.

    Now, I've been tempted to switch to Restoration (currently Balance). Prior to 2.0, healing as a druid was mind-numbing and less fun than a paladin (one druid for HoTs, EVERYONE ELSE SPAM HT). It's more interesting to heal now, and who can resist the twist?

    I can... i respecced from balance to resto tree a few weeks ago, and found it... lacking... perhaps it was crappy gear, perhaps I was just too used to healing as a priest, with huge direct heals being the mainstay... Any rate, I respecced to feral last night. Gonna try to get my tank on. Spent like 300g on gear and stuff, but I now have 406 defense, without stepping foot into an instance! Hurrah for crafted gear!

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    SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Resto healing is incredibly awesome now, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was my favorite(not having healed with any other class), but even still, I went back to feral because it's just a better spec. I mean, ability to solo without vomiting, and a spec that gives both good dps AND tanking in a group? Yes please.

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    autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I wonder how soloing as healer will be with the new +heal -> 1/3 +dmg conversion..

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    SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I wonder how soloing as healer will be with the new +heal -> 1/3 +dmg conversion..

    Still not good enough. I've tried out lvl 70 balance twice, with my green/blue balance set of 450 +damage. I didn't even find that to be quick enough, and a resto spec would have crap for damage talents(priests can at least have surge of light and pallies get boosted spell damage and holy shock), and I'd have about 350 +damage in healing gear.

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    autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    well, it'll be different with better gear I guess. our paladins have about 2050+heal, that's almost 700+dmg

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    SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I don't know, I can't imagine doing it with a full resto build, and I can't imagine being a healer without being nearly 61 points into resto.

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    rizriz Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    I was going to criticize the OP, but the spoiler hid gold.

    Now, I've been tempted to switch to Restoration (currently Balance). Prior to 2.0, healing as a druid was mind-numbing and less fun than a paladin (one druid for HoTs, EVERYONE ELSE SPAM HT). It's more interesting to heal now, and who can resist the twist?

    Word. The only "healing" I did pre-BC was stuff like "spam decursive on Chromaggus/Bug Trio" or spam low-rank HT on a tank occasionally. Not exactly fun or any real idea of what healing is like. Resto is amazingly fun now though. It's sort of a game to manage things without having to shift out of tree form. Who needs direct heals!

    Oh and resto PVP is hilarious.

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    autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    it's so damn hard to kill a resot druid that plays well

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    HitsuraptorHitsuraptor Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Just started levelling a druid now since im suffering from sever AltDD (70 priest,pally,shammy and 57 warrior so far) just a quick question about the talents. I was putting points in feral, but took a look and I'm thinking put the points in furor>natural shapeshifter then the rest in feral? Anyone any help much appreciated


    also I get to be "that guy" asking about talents yay <3

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    FightTestFightTest Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    The resto talents for feral aren't worth it until you're done with feral. It kind of helps a bit early on since you're sort of gimpy until the 30s so you need to shift out to heal relatively often, but even then it's not worth being late for the feral talents.

    I listened to some random jackass guide on the intertron when I started my druid and got Furor.. and promptly respecced back into full feral.

    By the time you hit your mid 30s you'll rarely need to shift while grinding anyway, and now at 43 I only need to shift and heal after 3+ mobs at a time.

    All it means being full feral is you have to wait an extra 4 seconds before attacking a mob when you shift into cat.. meanwhile you get all the good feral talents as soon as they're available. Don't bother with the resto stuff.

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    HitsuraptorHitsuraptor Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Ah ok that makes sense, guess i'll respec again when I've got enough for feral charge (can't wait to hit 68 and do a bear bomb)
    I remember hearing about a add-on that shows your mana bar when your in forms as well, anyone remember what it's called (if it exists D:)


    [edit] also not having to level weapon skills = awesome [/edit]

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    FodderFodder Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Druid bar is the addon you're looking for, although there are probably others as well. I think most unit frame mods also provide support for that, but I'm not sure if they require druid bar to be installed or just do it themselves. I have it active just in case, but it's not something I've gotten around to messing with.

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    OptyOpty Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Resto healing is awesome and dynamic and I definitely would be bored with Pally healing after being a druid (and probably Shammy and Priest healing as well). For 2v2s I just 3-stack a lifebloom on my partner before we go out, toss on a Regrowth and Rejuv to help mitigate any burst and then head out. I maintain the 3 stack and cyclone the offtarget while my partner goes to town on the remaining foe. If the offtarget is melee then I'll root as well. Hopefully my partner burns through his target before I run out of CC for the offtarget and then it's 2 on 1. The only times I fail at this is when I get feared/death coiled or a warrior manages to close the gap and gets a lucky mace stun.

    On the 1/3rd healing as dmg front, I tried killing mobs today without any +dmg while in my +healing gear so I could have a frame of reference for the difference tomorrow. It was about as slow as dpsing in my cat gear while resto-specced (Claw sucks so hard), only difference is I had to deal with drinking. So definitely after the patch I'll be in my healing gear (+1.5k heal, thus +500 dmg) to farm from now on...when I'm resto specced, that is.

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    FodderFodder Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Hmm, I should try the front loading of hots in an arena, I try to get off a pounce opener to give my partner time to start the killing, but there are some combos that flat out doesn't work against, and it's not terribly successful anyways. The idea of front loading the HoTs seems like it would make you an easier target, but it would also let you cyclone more quickly.

    This requires further testing...

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    dojangodojango Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Well, the druid wiki says "Mark of tyranny" is still one of the best druid trinkets... went ahead and solo'd the Warlord's command, and also the UBRS key quest. Also convinced two other people to help me kill Rend... waiting for the last guy to fly down now. Damn, that is a long flight. Used to do it a couple times a week, too.

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    InfernalTroutInfernalTrout Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    dojango wrote: »
    Well, the druid wiki says "Mark of tyranny" is still one of the best druid trinkets... went ahead and solo'd the Warlord's command, and also the UBRS key quest. Also convinced two other people to help me kill Rend... waiting for the last guy to fly down now. Damn, that is a long flight. Used to do it a couple times a week, too.

    That's an excellent trinket still since it has both a large armor boost and a little bit of dodge, I used it for a very long time at 70, probably the last level 60 item I upgraded if I remember right.

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    Mobile-DMobile-D Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Did anyone else see a little gem in the patch notes? Something to the effect of:

    Monster AI will no longer prioritize non-feared players over feared players?

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    MgcwMgcw Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    That's why they gave Fear Ward to everyone, because they made fear not matter at all in PvE.

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    KartanKartan Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Mgcw wrote: »
    That's why they gave Fear Ward to everyone, because they made fear not matter at all in PvE.

    I have heard that before somewhere...

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