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[WOW] Druid thread - l2tree!

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  • Jealous DevaJealous Deva Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    That's what I was thinking, new pulling procedure would be regrowth/rejuv-->entangling roots--> bear-->feral charge/lacerate skull. No point in really taking natures grasp as it would be too unpredictable to reliably cc anything.

    And for charging mobs you can throw in a barkskin with that. Never had much of a problem moonfire pulling before, anyway.

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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Whats the cooldown on cat feral charge?

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  • MayGodHaveMercyMayGodHaveMercy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    It's not that slow. Also, leaping across water. :^:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2mueF8xHl4&NR=1

    EDIT: A daze over a stun is pretty stupid, though.

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited August 2008
    Shadowstep doesn't have a stun, and that's the skill it's mimicking.

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  • MayGodHaveMercyMayGodHaveMercy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Shadowstep doesn't have a stun, and that's the skill it's mimicking.

    Good point, but does it offer you the speed increase that Shadowstep does? Also, Shadowstep is instant A--->B.

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  • FodderFodder Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Oh my god, do the shadows always look like that? If not, they're gorgeous

    Edit: also, the daze gives basically the same effect as the speed increase, right? You don't go faster but they go slower.

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited August 2008
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Shadowstep doesn't have a stun, and that's the skill it's mimicking.
    Good point, but does it offer you the speed increase that Shadowstep does? Also, Shadowstep is instant A--->B.
    You have dazed the person, and have a 30% speed increase. So they're at 80% disadvantage in movement speed compared to you, which is about on par with the speed increase.

    You make a good point about animation, but rogues and druids are two different classes. It's not going to be a perfect translation. I'd like to see the animation sped up and the move apply a moderate bleed on the target.

    But I won't lie...I don't want the teleport effect because I like flying kitties.

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  • BlueDestinyBlueDestiny Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Fodder wrote: »
    Oh my god, do the shadows always look like that? If not, they're gorgeous

    Edit: also, the daze gives basically the same effect as the speed increase, right? You don't go faster but they go slower.

    I heard that the shadows are only in the beta at the moment. Still, that looks gorgeous with them on.

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  • RizziRizzi Sydney, Australia.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Fodder wrote: »
    Oh my god, do the shadows always look like that? If not, they're gorgeous

    Edit: also, the daze gives basically the same effect as the speed increase, right? You don't go faster but they go slower.

    I heard that the shadows are only in the beta at the moment. Still, that looks gorgeous with them on.

    And I'll never see them. :(
    Stupid old pc.

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited August 2008
    I've been fighting with WoW over framerate forever now.

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  • BlueDestinyBlueDestiny Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    I've been fighting with WoW over framerate forever now.

    o_O

    What kind of computer struggles with WoW?

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited August 2008
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    I've been fighting with WoW over framerate forever now.
    o_O

    What kind of computer struggles with WoW?
    The history is long:

    -There was the bug where the game would remember old actionbar positions or something like that, so if you used a mod for those it'd use a ton of memory. Plagued me for a while.

    -Bought a gig of RAM. Made a giant difference.

    -Bought two more gigs of RAM made a larger difference.

    I still, however, have these periods where the game, for no reason, dips into single-digit framerate and sticks there until I log out or reload the UI. It's annoying.

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  • MayGodHaveMercyMayGodHaveMercy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    I don't want the teleport effect because I like flying kitties.

    I couldn't possibly agree more with this.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    How much energy does it take to use cat charge?
    basically is it possible to go from flight form to cat and charge from midair

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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Dyscord wrote: »
    How much energy does it take to use cat charge?
    basically is it possible to go from flight form to cat and charge from midair

    omg.

    Catbomb

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited August 2008
    Feral Charge (Cat) is only 10 Energy.

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  • PoketpixiePoketpixie Siege Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    I've been fighting with WoW over framerate forever now.

    o_O

    What kind of computer struggles with WoW?


    One with onboard video :(

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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Feral Charge (Cat) is only 10 Energy.

    I still want to know the cooldown.

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  • MgcwMgcw Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Feral Charge (Cat) is only 10 Energy.

    I still want to know the cooldown.

    http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=49376

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  • ghost_master2000ghost_master2000 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Mgcw wrote: »
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Feral Charge (Cat) is only 10 Energy.

    I still want to know the cooldown.

    http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=49376

    that last comment on that has a good point, is the cooldown shared between both the cat and bear form of feral charge, or can you cat form charge, shapeshift to bear, then bear form feral charge right away?

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  • MayGodHaveMercyMayGodHaveMercy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Mgcw wrote: »
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Feral Charge (Cat) is only 10 Energy.

    I still want to know the cooldown.

    http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=49376

    that last comment on that has a good point, is the cooldown shared between both the cat and bear form of feral charge, or can you cat form charge, shapeshift to bear, then bear form feral charge right away?

    Probably separate. Charge/Intercept, for example.

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  • FodderFodder Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The bear charge only has a 15 second cooldown so I'd think they'd be different.

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  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    So how is leveling a durid? Also spec recommendations? I've got the hybrid itch, and shammies don't do it for me lately.

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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    So how is leveling a durid? Also spec recommendations? I've got the hybrid itch, and shammies don't do it for me lately.

    Ferals level incredibly quickly.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    So how is leveling a durid? Also spec recommendations? I've got the hybrid itch, and shammies don't do it for me lately.

    Ferals level incredibly quickly.

    I'm leveling a feral druid with the 3x exp thing with a mage right now and it's comical how fast we are leveling.

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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    So how is leveling a durid? Also spec recommendations? I've got the hybrid itch, and shammies don't do it for me lately.

    Ferals level incredibly quickly.

    I'm leveling a feral druid with the 3x exp thing with a mage right now and it's comical how fast we are leveling.

    How can you afford to train?

    And gear?

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  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    So how is leveling a durid? Also spec recommendations? I've got the hybrid itch, and shammies don't do it for me lately.

    Ferals level incredibly quickly.

    It seems the challenge is getting to level 10 D:

    "Thanks for coming all this way, young durid. Go talk to someone else on the other side of the zone, then come back."

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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    So how is leveling a durid? Also spec recommendations? I've got the hybrid itch, and shammies don't do it for me lately.

    Ferals level incredibly quickly.

    It seems the challenge is getting to level 10 D:

    "Thanks for coming all this way, young durid. Go talk to someone else on the other side of the zone, then come back."

    I did the seal form quest the week after launch.

    Trust me, you've got it easy these days :)

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    How can you afford to train?

    And gear?

    The guy who sent me the trial invite has a 70 main, so that solves the training issue.

    Gear, well, I'm level 25 and my character doesn't even have a belt yet. Gear is much less of an issue when you are always partying with someone. Instance blues help a lot too.

    I just got three levels out of one stockade run + the stockade quests.

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  • RizziRizzi Sydney, Australia.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    How much hit does a feral druid need for raid bosses?

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  • danxdanx Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    So how is leveling a durid? Also spec recommendations? I've got the hybrid itch, and shammies don't do it for me lately.

    It drags until 10 (in comparison to some classes). At 10 it picks up. Then at 20 it ramps way up. Go feral and forget about going up the resto tree for omen of clarity until you have mangle/gotw (furor is nice, but I always found myself tearing shit up in cat/bear form so quickly it didn't matter much. Maybe put a point in it here and there as you go if you really want it).

    I'm levelling another druid just now with this spec in mind for leveling, skipping the resto stuff until later.

    If you can afford to buy some nice gear stick mainly to tiger stuff or anything with +agi, +str with some +int (for healing), +stam here and there.

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  • JunpeiJunpei Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Rizzi wrote: »
    How much hit does a feral druid need for raid bosses?

    9% or 140ish hit rating.

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  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    How can you afford to train?

    And gear?

    The guy who sent me the trial invite has a 70 main, so that solves the training issue.

    Gear, well, I'm level 25 and my character doesn't even have a belt yet. Gear is much less of an issue when you are always partying with someone. Instance blues help a lot too.

    I just got three levels out of one stockade run + the stockade quests.

    I know, instances are awesome. ZF (with all but one quest, forget which one) was between 3 and 4 full levels. Quests were like 160k xp, and the mobs were 500 and up.

    Don't do the RAF thing without mains with cash folks, and be prepared to spend money or time keeping your tradeskills up. We are going to have to get some 58 green boe gear before going into HFP I think, because some of those mobs are tough, and my crap left over from SM/ZF might not cut it.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited August 2008
    Junpei wrote: »
    Rizzi wrote: »
    How much hit does a feral druid need for raid bosses?

    9% or 140ish hit rating.

    141.something, so 142 to be just above the cap.

    I'm down to 105 in cat gear after getting new gear. D:

    Okay, that adds up to about 1.7% miss chance, but I swear I keep getting 3-4 Rip misses in a row...

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  • RizziRizzi Sydney, Australia.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Ah cool. That seems pretty easily obtainable.

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Well, 9% is the cap, that doesn't mean you need 9%. I've heard arguments back and forth over the value of hit. It's not exactly a great straight up dps increase for it's item budget, but the benefit it brings is a more reliable dps rotation. I would personally not go over 6% hit, in case you get a moonkin druid with imp. faerie fire, and I'd probably let myself get as low as 3-4%.

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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Bigity wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    How can you afford to train?

    And gear?

    The guy who sent me the trial invite has a 70 main, so that solves the training issue.

    Gear, well, I'm level 25 and my character doesn't even have a belt yet. Gear is much less of an issue when you are always partying with someone. Instance blues help a lot too.

    I just got three levels out of one stockade run + the stockade quests.

    I know, instances are awesome. ZF (with all but one quest, forget which one) was between 3 and 4 full levels. Quests were like 160k xp, and the mobs were 500 and up.

    Don't do the RAF thing without mains with cash folks, and be prepared to spend money or time keeping your tradeskills up. We are going to have to get some 58 green boe gear before going into HFP I think, because some of those mobs are tough, and my crap left over from SM/ZF might not cut it.

    Personally I'd ignore crafting until levels 60-70 when you can go back and power your way through it. Too much work and cash to keep it up at low levels. The only exception I can think might be leatherworking, as you can skin stuff as you kill it and keep yourself in moderately decent gear.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited August 2008
    Rizzi wrote: »
    Ah cool. That seems pretty easily obtainable.

    Yeah, I had it in T4 gear. Then you lose the hit again with T6 stuff. D:

    Echo on
  • RizziRizzi Sydney, Australia.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Echo wrote: »
    Rizzi wrote: »
    Ah cool. That seems pretty easily obtainable.

    Yeah, I had it in T4 gear. Then you lose the hit again with T6 stuff. D:

    That doesn't seem like much of an issue to me :P
    I've never been past ZA.

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  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Bigity wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    How can you afford to train?

    And gear?

    The guy who sent me the trial invite has a 70 main, so that solves the training issue.

    Gear, well, I'm level 25 and my character doesn't even have a belt yet. Gear is much less of an issue when you are always partying with someone. Instance blues help a lot too.

    I just got three levels out of one stockade run + the stockade quests.

    I know, instances are awesome. ZF (with all but one quest, forget which one) was between 3 and 4 full levels. Quests were like 160k xp, and the mobs were 500 and up.

    Don't do the RAF thing without mains with cash folks, and be prepared to spend money or time keeping your tradeskills up. We are going to have to get some 58 green boe gear before going into HFP I think, because some of those mobs are tough, and my crap left over from SM/ZF might not cut it.

    Personally I'd ignore crafting until levels 60-70 when you can go back and power your way through it. Too much work and cash to keep it up at low levels. The only exception I can think might be leatherworking, as you can skin stuff as you kill it and keep yourself in moderately decent gear.

    Pretty much what we've been doing, except that since I'm doing enchanting/tailoring, I've been keeping cloth and green items to DE. And occasionally clearing out the stockpiles by power leveling the skills up 10-20 points here and there.

    I would imagine with a gathering one just waiting and going back at 60 would be best.

    Bigity on
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