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So how bout them DX10 Graphics cards?
SniperGuy
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So here I sit with a freshly acquired half a grand and I thought, what better to spend it on than a graphics card. Currently the still slowest part of my system, my x1800xt is awesome, yet starting to show it's age just a bit.
Then I realized I know absolutely nothing about the Dx10 graphics cards, so I come to you denizens of PA. What would be my best option? Should I wait for a while to get one, or is now a prime purchasing time? Nvidia, or ATI? I am lost in the world of cards!
Then I realized I know absolutely nothing about the Dx10 graphics cards, so I come to you denizens of PA. What would be my best option? Should I wait for a while to get one, or is now a prime purchasing time? Nvidia, or ATI? I am lost in the world of cards!
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Son of a bitch.
Also, countdown 'til this gets moved to the tech subforum: T-Minus 10... 9... <.<
Edit - Beat by the thread maker. XD
At the moment, it's best to think of the 8800s and 2900s as really fast Dx9 cards. Dx10 seems to be a complete failure at the moment so I wouldn't worry about jumping to vista. (not that vista isn't nice)
DX10 is not a failure, it's just a new technology that needs to mature. I remember that DX9 had quite a few bugs when it first came out.
Just because something is new doesn't make it a failure.
RE: OP. Get an 8800GT, doesn't matter what OS you have, just buy one of those cards.
Anyhow, if I were you, I'd DX10 a bit more time to cook before jumping in. I think that six months from now, it'll be great. However, as things stand right now, DX10 is a huge resource strain, a much larger strain than it is worth.
By all means, pick up a nice video card if you have the money. I'd just hold of on jumping to Vista/DX10 for a bit longer.
Some would disagree but I can't stand vista. Its bloated, has problems running some XP era games without extra tweaking, and while UAC might make it safer its annoying IMO.
I dual boot XP pro/Vista Home and I only boot into Vista for vista only/DX10 stuff. On top of that DX10 isn't all that yet.
The only improvement in Gears of War for example is DX10 lets you use AA, Bioshock DX10 has better smoke and water, Hellgate London I can't put my finger on (since I just ran it in dx10 off the bat) but I think the lighting and smoke is better, and Company of Heroes has a lil bit better lighting and shadows but its a huge performance hit not to mention some bugs. Crysis on the flip side looks AWESOME in dx10 but you need a MONSTER pc to run it. Even with a 8800gtx I think I'm getting 30fps. (hopefully retail runs better than the demo) World in Conflict isn't a huge jump but neither was the performance hit. DX10 in WiC adds better clouds, lighting, etc..
Exactly. Expect blazing fast DX9 performance but only minor visual bumps when switching to DX10.
Oh yeah one other thing I forgot to mention I would avoid the 8800GTS 320mb. I've heard certain dx10 games have issues with the lower amount of ram. I'd go with at least the 640mb version.
So DX10 is pretty useless right now.
eh, it just doesnt make sense to spend 200$ more for a 5% performance gain on the GTX
edit: also the new GTS' that everyones expecting to totally smoke the GTX for significantly less money are supposed to come out at the end of this month, so i'd wait for one of those
Speak more of this wizardry.
the shadows still don't look quite as good in the edited XP version as in DX10 mode, but yeah its pretty damned close
I am just tight on cash and am riding things out for a while, hoping DX10 games will become slowly cheaper due to them being released for so long as along with the hardware.
Wait, so is the game actually launching in DX10, or is it DX9 with some tweaks?
I'm really interested to hear more about this.
Edit: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=206469 that thread has a bunch of shit about it.
Definitely.
No, it's not Dx10. It's just using the Dx9 codepath and enabling many of the features that were softlocked to the Dx10 mode (e.g. higher res textures, lightbeams etc). You (presumably) don't get the more advanced Dx10 features such as soft particles etc.
Ohhh OK. That's what I thought. Is there like an article, or thread, or anything explaining this more thoroughly?
(And it's not Microsofts fault actually, but apparently Nvidias lazyness, so blame them!)
I did a search, but turned up nothing.
No.
It's really the same thing for me. I'm building a tower this summer, and I'm on the ledge concerning going with the 8800GT or the new 3870 from ATI. The 8800's better in terms of power, but it's also a little more expensive and I'm trying to save money.
I fully realize that it's pretty pointless to be debating what card to get when I'm still 7 months or so away.
But my call isn't 'till 7 and I'm bored and I don't have quite enough time to actually do anything before I need to change and do my hair and warm up and stretch.
No as in this is wrong, or no as in no one has told us this so I should not buy a video card?
But in the event it's the later, then I'll be ready to shove my 8800GTX up the ass of which ever NVidia suit I first come in contact with.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
How is it not MS' fault?
They released an upgrade that was totally incompatible with all DX 10 hardware, not just Nvidia's.
Well, you'll most likely be getting something that hasn't even hit the market yet, if you're set on a top-end card.
But, as long as we both recognize the inherent futility.
DX 10.1 will be backwards compatible, but only DX 10.1 hardware can run DX 10.1 features.
I've got an 8600GTS, let's make a road trip out of it.
This is correct, at least according to one of the lead programmers at MS.
He's featured in this little article:
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6824&Itemid=2
Sounds like fun, luckily though it looks like we won't have to.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
Also
* Mandatory 32-bit floating point filtering
* Mandatory 4x anti-aliasing
* Shader model 4.1
I'm set on a budget top-end. I'm looking for something in the $200 range but that can still play stuff and look pretty, hence the 3870 and the 8800GT. But yeah, I'm fairly sure I'll end up getting a card that isn't out yet.