"We need you on our superhero force. The ability to fly is something only every single S.H.I.E.L.D agent since our inception has possessed. Think of it, you could use a gun too! We'll make you unstoppable."
Also I love how apparently there was no need to worry about your looks, super-powers really do make you grow to around 6 foot and lose 40 pounds.
Her power isn't to fly. It's to generate clouds, which can be used for flight, concealment, rescue, and asphyxiation. Also, she's supposed to be an expert marksman, not some teenage girl with a gun.
The body thing is a bit of a drastic change, but since that's what people who work out every day are supposed to look like in the Marvel Universe, it's understandable.
Man she grew a foot. You don't work out to get taller.
And I mean, obviously I'm being hyperbolic about her uselessness. It just struck me that out of all the Initiative recruits she's the least combat-oriented. She doesn't shoot fireballs. There was no need to teach her to be an expert sniper. They could have just strapped a jet-pack on any given you know, actual trained sniper. Because they're the army.
Man she grew a foot. You don't work out to get taller.
And I mean, obviously I'm being hyperbolic about her uselessness. It just struck me that out of all the Initiative recruits she's the least combat-oriented. She doesn't shoot fireballs. There was no need to teach her to be an expert sniper. They could have just strapped a jet-pack on any given you know, actual trained sniper. Because they're the army.
But other aerial fighters can't hide in mid-air. You'd need someone who can make themselves and their gun invisible or someone who can affect people's minds, and aside from sniping being a waste of someone that powerful, there's the fact that those people won't necessarily have great aim.
Well, she's certainly lost her innocence. I'm not sure how I feel about it.
You'd have to be made of stone to not feel at least a little sad for that.
Honestly I predicted it would go this way from like the first issue, and while I sympathize, I also wonder why they never went to say the media and said "Oh, btw we're being exploited scientifically and treated like Weapon Plus"
Honestly I predicted it would go this way from like the first issue, and while I sympathize, I also wonder why they never went to say the media and said "Oh, btw we're being exploited scientifically and treated like Weapon Plus"
They still remember the government sanctioned Operation: Zero Tolerance. Specifically, the concentration camps for superpowered individuals.
Man she grew a foot. You don't work out to get taller.
And I mean, obviously I'm being hyperbolic about her uselessness. It just struck me that out of all the Initiative recruits she's the least combat-oriented. She doesn't shoot fireballs. There was no need to teach her to be an expert sniper. They could have just strapped a jet-pack on any given you know, actual trained sniper. Because they're the army.
But other aerial fighters can't hide in mid-air. You'd need someone who can make themselves and their gun invisible or someone who can affect people's minds, and aside from sniping being a waste of someone that powerful, there's the fact that those people won't necessarily have great aim.
... Nor would a child forced into indentured military service. I'm just saying, The Initiative has always seemed a pretty tenuously plausible thing, even in Marvel. Also, I'm pretty sure Nick Fury had about 40 mass-produced ways to turn invisible, several of which would fix you a drink while doing it.
If it was Xaviers For All, it would make a bit more sense. Hell, if it was PS238 it would make sense. But it's not, it's a choice between being de-powered, imprisoned, or taught to kill. Which, you know, it totally doesn't have to be. She could have worked for the fire department.
Edit: And really, I'm just a bit annoyed at the way it went from "oh hey, it would be weird to be a reasonably normal, uselessly powered kid thrust into a world of gigantically voluptuous women who can lift buildings" to "she is a Sarcastic but Tragic Female Badass".
Man she grew a foot. You don't work out to get taller.
And I mean, obviously I'm being hyperbolic about her uselessness. It just struck me that out of all the Initiative recruits she's the least combat-oriented. She doesn't shoot fireballs. There was no need to teach her to be an expert sniper. They could have just strapped a jet-pack on any given you know, actual trained sniper. Because they're the army.
But other aerial fighters can't hide in mid-air. You'd need someone who can make themselves and their gun invisible or someone who can affect people's minds, and aside from sniping being a waste of someone that powerful, there's the fact that those people won't necessarily have great aim.
... Nor would a child forced into indentured military service. I'm just saying, The Initiative has always seemed a pretty tenuously plausible thing, even in Marvel. Also, I'm pretty sure Nick Fury had about 40 mass-produced ways to turn invisible, several of which would fix you a drink while doing it.
If it was Xaviers For All, it would make a bit more sense. Hell, if it was PS238 it would make sense. But it's not, it's a choice between being de-powered, imprisoned, or taught to kill. Which, you know, it totally doesn't have to be. She could have worked for the fire department.
Edit: And really, I'm just a bit annoyed at the way it went from "oh hey, it would be weird to be a reasonably normal, uselessly powered kid thrust into a world of gigantically voluptuous women who can lift buildings" to "she is a Sarcastic but Tragic Female Badass".
It is pretty implausible. I didn't think she was written that well before (or the book in general, to be perfectly honest) but it was nice that she had a bit more depth than most of the other characters. This new version of her is fine and all, but did Marvel really need another check-me-out-I'm-such-a-badass type character? I'd suggest not.
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"And this is his sofa, is it?" said Arthur.
It wouldn't have been such a bad character arc if it'd be drawn out longer, a little cliche yet but not terrible. But given that she went straight from naive wide-eyed kid to ice-cold sniper it's just jarring. Also she should have just stuck with the cloud 9 shirt and camo pants, same with Hard-Ball and Komodo, the Olympic Speed-skater suits look terrible.
Personally i would like to see more of Gauntlet, i find him an interesting character in while we've got a lot Superheroes that were soliders, there doesn't seem to be that many that self-identify as being Soldiers rather than Superheroes, and i liked the contrast between at-work Drill Sergeant and Gauntlet playing with his daughter.
I'd love to read a series about Gauntlet and a squad of other soldiers with low level super powers acting as trouble shooters in Iraq. e.g. Terrorists have Hydra backing and are using Super Villains to conduct attacks, army calls in its empowered response unit to take them out, with phoning up S.H.I.E.L.D and the Initiative as a final resort.
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DC nation this week had a list of ten things, five tricks (falsehoods) and five treats (truths) about upcoming stories and what not
SEVERAL HEROES WILL PLAY A GAME OF ROUND ROBIN, BUT ONLY ONE WILL WEAR THE COWL.
(treat, the Battle of the Cowel storyline)
THIS YEAR THE JLA WILL REACH A NEW MILESTONE FOR ROSTER CHANGES. (treat, the Milestone Heroes)
YOU CAN TRUST ALL OF THE TITANS. (trick, it's way too obvious)
THE DEAD AREN'T THE ONLY ONES WHO WILL WALK THE EARTH AGAIN IN THE DCU. (???)
TO SAVE THE DCU YOU WILL NEED A SHIELD, A BUG, AND A HOOD. (treat? But I don't know why?
HUSBANDS AND WIVES WILL STAY ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE LAW. (trick, this isn't even trying.)
THE OWL AND THE BUTLER ARE THE SAME PERSON. (??? ALFRED IS ACTUALLY OWLMAN?
THE BEST WONDER WOMAN FOR THE JOB IS A WOMAN. (trick, the whole "Best Wonder Woman is a man" thing in WW
THERE WILL BE A NIGHTWING IN THE DCU. (???They'll be at least one with new Krypton)
AMBUSH BUG WILL JOIN THE JUSTICE LEAGUE…OF THE FUTURE! (???)
It reminds me of Cyclops' comments back when New X-Men switched to the black leather: that Xavier had always had their costumes be outlandish to match the public's preconceptions about what superheroes should look like (as opposed to super-cops, I guess, among other things). I imagine a similar explanation might be employed here: the Initiative wants the public to recognize these people as heroes, not just cops.
While looking at the preview for the Initiative special coming out next week I noticed I've seen the artwork for it like six months ago. I guess Steve Uy wanted a head start or something?
So, there's a preview up for Terror Titans #2. Now, I'm not going to post a link to said preview, or say where it's at, because I honestly felt the first issue epitomized everything wrongheaded, nihilistic, and asinine about the DC Comics universe, and Sean McKeever's writing, and to promote it in any way is repugnant to me. Going from the preview, the second issue looks to be more of the same.
But, I did want to post an image from the preview, along with a warning.
DC Comics: A bunch of classy motherfuckers.
Don't buy this comic. There are better things to spend your three dollars on. Go pick up an issue of Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, or Robin. Check out some Iron Fist or Criminal. Buy a goddamn Big Mac. But don't give Sean McKeever or DC Comics the satisfaction of selling you this pap, just because it's so fuckin' hardcore with all that blood n' shit maaaan!, or because it has 'Titans' in the title. That's the kind of shit that got us half a decade of horrible comics in the 90's.
Sir, do you have a problem with Young Heroes in Love, Hourman, Starman, Young Justice, Chronos, Resurrection Man, Peter David's Supergirl, Impulse, Tim Drake's solo title, Birds of Prey, Superboy, JLA, JSA, Aztek, or the DnA Legion?
Because if you do, I will throw the fuck down mister.
Sir, do you have a problem with Young Heroes in Love, Hourman, Starman, Young Justice, Chronos, Resurrection Man, Peter David's Supergirl, Impulse, Tim Drake's solo title, Birds of Prey, Superboy, JLA, JSA, Aztek, or the DnA Legion?
Because if you do, I will throw the fuck down mister.
I don't think anyone was in danger of reading Terror Titans.
And who's the character who died?
Better safe than sorry.
And the dead character is Fever, of John Arcudi's ill-fated Doom Patrol. Which happens to be one of my favorite series, featuring stellar artwork by Tan Eng Huat and Seth Fisher, and some great, really layered characterization and writing from the excellent John Arcudi.
You may have missed the big freak-out I had over this with the first issue of Terror Titans. It's not even just that a character I liked got killed. Certainly part of it, but it's not the whole issue. My problem is that cavalier and childish way McKeever, Bennet, and DC Comics have promoted the book, boasting that it uses so much red for blood that they were afraid DC's other titles would have to go without red for that month. Then there's the slew of other issues I have with the book, like Ravager's backslide into villainy after a short stint of heroism, a common, and annoying, storytelling trope that's become a near-inevitability in the DCU, or the fact that McKeever's writing Clock King as some kind of super badass that can thumb his nose at fucking Darkseid after having just been introduced, sans any kind of attempt to build his cred.
And all my problems with Terror Titans dovetail nicely into all my problems with Teen Titans proper, which has become some kind of shambling, decaying horror under the pens of fuck-ups like Adam Beechen and McKeever.
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Likewise the SI tie-in while better written is pretty inconsequential
House of M was the last Marvel U event to signifigantly impact the X-Men
Civil War, WWH, and SI all just have token minis
its not even close to the same thing
Initiative looks sweet. Cloud Nine suddenly became cooler.
X-Force looks good too, I'll be interested to see how Warren develops.
Also, Thor.
You know you could print mini-marvels on a snack cake and i'd be happy with giving myself diabetes
Well, she's certainly lost her innocence. I'm not sure how I feel about it.
"We need you on our superhero force. The ability to fly is something only every single S.H.I.E.L.D agent since our inception has possessed. Think of it, you could use a gun too! We'll make you unstoppable."
Also I love how apparently there was no need to worry about your looks, super-powers really do make you grow to around 6 foot and lose 40 pounds.
The body thing is a bit of a drastic change, but since that's what people who work out every day are supposed to look like in the Marvel Universe, it's understandable.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
And I mean, obviously I'm being hyperbolic about her uselessness. It just struck me that out of all the Initiative recruits she's the least combat-oriented. She doesn't shoot fireballs. There was no need to teach her to be an expert sniper. They could have just strapped a jet-pack on any given you know, actual trained sniper. Because they're the army.
Holy god those are some of the worst costumes ever.
But other aerial fighters can't hide in mid-air. You'd need someone who can make themselves and their gun invisible or someone who can affect people's minds, and aside from sniping being a waste of someone that powerful, there's the fact that those people won't necessarily have great aim.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
We finally know who really shot Connor Hawke and the Titans East.
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You'd have to be made of stone to not feel at least a little sad for that.
They still remember the government sanctioned Operation: Zero Tolerance. Specifically, the concentration camps for superpowered individuals.
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... Nor would a child forced into indentured military service. I'm just saying, The Initiative has always seemed a pretty tenuously plausible thing, even in Marvel. Also, I'm pretty sure Nick Fury had about 40 mass-produced ways to turn invisible, several of which would fix you a drink while doing it.
If it was Xaviers For All, it would make a bit more sense. Hell, if it was PS238 it would make sense. But it's not, it's a choice between being de-powered, imprisoned, or taught to kill. Which, you know, it totally doesn't have to be. She could have worked for the fire department.
Edit: And really, I'm just a bit annoyed at the way it went from "oh hey, it would be weird to be a reasonably normal, uselessly powered kid thrust into a world of gigantically voluptuous women who can lift buildings" to "she is a Sarcastic but Tragic Female Badass".
It is pretty implausible. I didn't think she was written that well before (or the book in general, to be perfectly honest) but it was nice that she had a bit more depth than most of the other characters. This new version of her is fine and all, but did Marvel really need another check-me-out-I'm-such-a-badass type character? I'd suggest not.
"And this is his sofa, is it?" said Arthur.
I hope so anyway
I'd love to read a series about Gauntlet and a squad of other soldiers with low level super powers acting as trouble shooters in Iraq. e.g. Terrorists have Hydra backing and are using Super Villains to conduct attacks, army calls in its empowered response unit to take them out, with phoning up S.H.I.E.L.D and the Initiative as a final resort.
(treat, the Battle of the Cowel storyline)
Cloud 9? Phone for you. Says his name is Ultraman and he wants his clothes back.
Fixed.
Also come on, you don't think her helmet looks even a tiny bit like the top half of Ultraman's head? Dude.
That's referencing the Archie/"Red Circle" superheroes that JMS is writing into B&B.
Thanks. I want to make an Obamarama version as soon as I get a moment.
But, I did want to post an image from the preview, along with a warning.
DC Comics: A bunch of classy motherfuckers.
Don't buy this comic. There are better things to spend your three dollars on. Go pick up an issue of Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, or Robin. Check out some Iron Fist or Criminal. Buy a goddamn Big Mac. But don't give Sean McKeever or DC Comics the satisfaction of selling you this pap, just because it's so fuckin' hardcore with all that blood n' shit maaaan!, or because it has 'Titans' in the title. That's the kind of shit that got us half a decade of horrible comics in the 90's.
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Sir, do you have a problem with Young Heroes in Love, Hourman, Starman, Young Justice, Chronos, Resurrection Man, Peter David's Supergirl, Impulse, Tim Drake's solo title, Birds of Prey, Superboy, JLA, JSA, Aztek, or the DnA Legion?
Because if you do, I will throw the fuck down mister.
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And who's the character who died?
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
I know dude. For anyone wondering, I will not, in fact, "Throw the fuck down," over comics. Not even ironically.
Better safe than sorry.
And the dead character is Fever, of John Arcudi's ill-fated Doom Patrol. Which happens to be one of my favorite series, featuring stellar artwork by Tan Eng Huat and Seth Fisher, and some great, really layered characterization and writing from the excellent John Arcudi.
You may have missed the big freak-out I had over this with the first issue of Terror Titans. It's not even just that a character I liked got killed. Certainly part of it, but it's not the whole issue. My problem is that cavalier and childish way McKeever, Bennet, and DC Comics have promoted the book, boasting that it uses so much red for blood that they were afraid DC's other titles would have to go without red for that month. Then there's the slew of other issues I have with the book, like Ravager's backslide into villainy after a short stint of heroism, a common, and annoying, storytelling trope that's become a near-inevitability in the DCU, or the fact that McKeever's writing Clock King as some kind of super badass that can thumb his nose at fucking Darkseid after having just been introduced, sans any kind of attempt to build his cred.
And all my problems with Terror Titans dovetail nicely into all my problems with Teen Titans proper, which has become some kind of shambling, decaying horror under the pens of fuck-ups like Adam Beechen and McKeever.
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