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Assassin, a non-airborne bird, a messed-up underground - The flundra thread.

flundraflundra Registered User regular
edited November 2007 in Artist's Corner
Greetings AC, experienced lurker here finally actually posting things. Figured out that, while it is questionable if my artwork is worthy of intarwebs, I'm not really advancing without proper advise. So, here's a Hellgate-inspired piece I've been working on for a couple of afternoons. It's still sort of a WIP, as in I don't know what to do with it. Probably worth mentioning that while the general theme is from Hellgate, post-apocalyptic London and all that, the character and his enemy aren't, both original designs of mine. I had some trouble with lightning, shading and all that, the image looks a bit flat I reckon, so any tips on that area would be ace. Soo yea, critique away.

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Also, ostrich.

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Uh, did you start drawing this right on the computer? The perspective is off, making it really difficult to read what's supposed to be going on.

    You seem to have put a fair amount of time and effort into this, but it doesn't look like you really planned it out or tried any roughs before you started painting stuff in. At this stage, I think the perspective errors on the stairs, garbage can, sign and characters are a little too much to correct, and you'll probably do better if you just give it another go.

    Before you dive back into painting, try working out a rough diagram of how your figures are going to fit into the background, paying particular attention to horizon lines and perspective. Photoreferences can be really helpful with this kind of stuff. Post your plan here and we'll critique it and tell if you things are looking accurate.

    Also that's a handsome ostrich you got there. Was that done from a photo?

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  • flundraflundra Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Rolo wrote: »
    Uh, did you start drawing this right on the computer? The perspective is off, making it really difficult to read what's supposed to be going on.

    You seem to have put a fair amount of time and effort into this, but it doesn't look like you really planned it out or tried any roughs before you started painting stuff in. At this stage, I think the perspective errors on the stairs, garbage can, sign and characters are a little too much to correct, and you'll probably do better if you just give it another go.

    Before you dive back into painting, try working out a rough diagram of how your figures are going to fit into the background, paying particular attention to horizon lines and perspective. Photoreferences can be really helpful with this kind of stuff. Post your plan here and we'll critique it and tell if you things are looking accurate.

    Also that's a handsome ostrich you got there. Was that done from a photo?

    Heh, I cannot believe I didn't notice how messed up the perspective was. Now that I look at it, you know, damn. I did actually somewhat plan some of the things in there, but for instance the stairs and the garbage can I decided to add a bit later, possibly causing them to fail me in a horrible manner.

    I could probably use a protip or two for doing perspective right on a computer. My ability is draw a straight line, especially on a tablet, is just awful. On paper I can sort of pull it off, having rulers and stuff, but on a pc it's just not happening, thus I just sort of guess the perspective lines, which as demonstrated leads to rather unwalkable stairs. Could use the pen tool or something I suppose, do people generally do that?

    As for the ostrich, no photo references there. I just quickly checked from a couple of photos what an ostrich head looks like before I started, that hopefully doesn't count as referencing :P

    I'll get cracking on some other project today, sketches incoming at some point.

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  • flundraflundra Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Alright here we have it, took me some one and a half hours. Tried to get the perspective right now, I even used guidelines.

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    edit: fixed the dude's left hand

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  • Big Luke NastyBig Luke Nasty Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Looks good, although it seem to me that his shankin' arm should cast a shadow across his chest, which is lit up.

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    flundra wrote: »
    Rolo wrote: »
    Uh, did you start drawing this right on the computer? The perspective is off, making it really difficult to read what's supposed to be going on.

    You seem to have put a fair amount of time and effort into this, but it doesn't look like you really planned it out or tried any roughs before you started painting stuff in. At this stage, I think the perspective errors on the stairs, garbage can, sign and characters are a little too much to correct, and you'll probably do better if you just give it another go.

    Before you dive back into painting, try working out a rough diagram of how your figures are going to fit into the background, paying particular attention to horizon lines and perspective. Photoreferences can be really helpful with this kind of stuff. Post your plan here and we'll critique it and tell if you things are looking accurate.

    Also that's a handsome ostrich you got there. Was that done from a photo?

    Heh, I cannot believe I didn't notice how messed up the perspective was. Now that I look at it, you know, damn. I did actually somewhat plan some of the things in there, but for instance the stairs and the garbage can I decided to add a bit later, possibly causing them to fail me in a horrible manner.

    I could probably use a protip or two for doing perspective right on a computer. My ability is draw a straight line, especially on a tablet, is just awful. On paper I can sort of pull it off, having rulers and stuff, but on a pc it's just not happening, thus I just sort of guess the perspective lines, which as demonstrated leads to rather unwalkable stairs. Could use the pen tool or something I suppose, do people generally do that?

    As for the ostrich, no photo references there. I just quickly checked from a couple of photos what an ostrich head looks like before I started, that hopefully doesn't count as referencing :P

    I'll get cracking on some other project today, sketches incoming at some point.

    Put the ruler on the tablet. :P

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  • NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    MKR wrote: »
    Put the ruler on the tablet. :P

    Or just use the Line Tool to draw lines emanating from a single point (if you're doing single-point perspective). You can even put all the lines on another layer, and check how your perspective is, when you need to.

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  • RusticCreatureRusticCreature Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I think the command is SHIFT-Click.

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  • flundraflundra Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Okay, here's where I've got with it so far:

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    Kind of pleased with it, still a bit lacking in detail though. The shadow cast by the dagger arm literally gave me a headache, and I still have no idea whether it's right or not.

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  • GreatnationGreatnation Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Pretty well rendered and moody. The design is really lacking though. Dead center subject, lots of inactive space, and the background elements aren't contributing to the composition. I like what you've done to the figure, but I would play more with the design of the background.

    Also, that blob of blood is really hard to make out.

    :^:

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  • EpiEpi Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Tron assassin!

    If you look close, he's too big. He's crouching over and not that far from the door so if he stood upright it seems like he'd smack his head on the frame.

    It also looks like the hall is curving. See how the candle platform on the far left is facing directly out? yet the door is at an angle.

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  • NakedZerglingNakedZergling A more apocalyptic post apocalypse Portland OregonRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    MKR wrote: »
    Put the ruler on the tablet. :P

    Or just use the Line Tool to draw lines emanating from a single point (if you're doing single-point perspective). You can even put all the lines on another layer, and check how your perspective is, when you need to.

    how does this work exactly? it opens a new layer everytime you use it or am i doing something wrong?

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