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A thred about spoilers. [SPOILERS INSIDE!]
noir_blood
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So spoilers.
What with the interweb, you can't help but run into them. Some people hate them, some people love them. My question is, if someone goes into a thread where something is being discussed, do they have any right to complain when they stumble upon something they personally didn't want to be revealed to them? Yes, it might be common courtesy to hide spoilers under tag, but does anyone have a right to complain about them?
What with the interweb, you can't help but run into them. Some people hate them, some people love them. My question is, if someone goes into a thread where something is being discussed, do they have any right to complain when they stumble upon something they personally didn't want to be revealed to them? Yes, it might be common courtesy to hide spoilers under tag, but does anyone have a right to complain about them?
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Fuck you.
So is it obvious to anyone else that
especially when I have to click through every damn post. Of course, stuff that hasn't aired yet and is in the process of airing (with a grace period for people in different time zones) should be spoilered, imho.
I'm talking about dropping spoilers into random threads that have nothing to do with the thread topic.
You son of a bitch.
I think it is asinine to throw the burden of spoilering things onto the people who don't care as if this were some socialist paradise in which everyone's primary responsibility was someone else. If you don't want to read spoilers then avoid places whereat spoilers may be. It's not my job to pwotect you from spoiwers. It's not my job to take care of you. It's your job to take care of you. Deal with it.
And don't B.S. about "oh, it's not a burden to spoiler anything that might possibly be a spoiler for anyone, ever." because it fucking is. I don't know what you would consider to be a spoiler. You don't know what I would consider to be a spoiler. So how about we each bear the responsibility for ourselves and if I don't want to know what happens in the most recent House episode I avoid areas in which people talk about House. And if you don't want to know how the final Harry Potter book ended then you avoid areas where people talk about Harry Potter.
Because otherwise we're in this undefined grey area of "spoiler things that need to be spoilered" without any sensible direction or reasoning or means by which that quality can be assessed.
Oh, and **Spoilers Edited out**.
It's about general decency. This isn't Mad Max every-man-for-himself apoco-wasteland. The general rule is that if it costs you nothing to keep from fucking with someone's enjoyment of a story, why make the effort? Why shout out the hero's final fate to a line of people waiting to see the movie?
It takes minimal effort to put a
If you don't know where the line is, you just don't know. It's another thing if you simply don't care.
So, it's not sensible, and yet you knew exactly what kind of 'spoilers' you can use for your joke. Interesting.
However, where do we draw the line? I tend to err on the side of caution when mentioning the ending of a book or something in a random thread, but are we still supposed to spoiler the end of Citizen Kane, and the shocking revelation of just what Rosebud is?
Why should an individual spoiler something?
Not knowing what to spoiler is not what makes the policy not sensible. What makes the policy not sensible is the idea that somehow individuals are responsible for keeping others from seeing what others do not want to see.
And, yes, the rules are to use spoiler tags. Which is fine because those are the rules. But in a thread debating the virtue of the rule I think it sensible to debate the virtue of the rule.
Common decency?
The very second sentence of my post. :-\
If someone asks for a person to not post spoilers about Guitar Hero then, sure, don't post spoilers about Guitar Hero. But the "spoiler spoilers" rule doesn't have any foundation in anything akin to that.
The rule is basically that there is some nebulous user out there who doesn't want to read any spoilers, and one's task is to prevent that user from being upset by anything one posts.
So whenever someone posts something they must consider, "Hmm, ok self. Could nebulous user be upset by this? Well, I know how Citizen Kane ends. But perhaps nebulous user has never seen it or any of the thousands of things which have spoofed the movie. So what is the degree to which this needs to be spoilered?"
I can understand not doing X if someone asks me to not do X provided that X is sensibly defined. But as the spoiler rule exists now it's just a rule founded on faux politeness.
"Don't post things that may spoil something for someone else."
That's EVERYTHING.
Uh, why? What right have you to go and spoil a movie for someone because of some illogical "Well, you should have gotten there right at the first showing, screw whatever else might have kept you from doing that"?
Seriously, I'm insulted by your assumption that if I or anyone else cared about the ending then we'd have been there at the first showing. Perhaps it was lower on one's priorities than making the first showing? Perhaps they weren't actually able to make it there for some reason?
It's not "some socialist paradise" it's not being an asshat to others. And no, it's not your job to "protect" people from spoilers or take care of them. But it is your job to actually act with tact towards others, and that involves not recklessly bandying spoilers about.
How is it a burden? hell, all it takes to spoiler something on here is to click this "!" icon, click between "][" and start writing the spoiler. or just writing out the spoiler tags which doesn't even take 10 seconds. It's as much a burden as carrying a tissue.
And maybe, just maybe people are going into those places to talk about other aspects than just the latest episode and their spoilers. Maybe someone wants to talk about House's parallels to sherlock holmes, perhaps someone wants to talk about an older Potter book or movie?
Any reason you did that, especially including spoilers for a manga/Anime which is only around 4 or 5 episodes in of it's US TV run?
EDIT: Wow those were a lot of missing words, odd punctuation and confused words
I mean not everyone can buy a game as soon as it comes out. One month after it comes out though unless it's a 100+ hour epic RPG 95% of the people posting in the thread know the ending. Really the other 5% shouldn't be in the thread if they don't have it unless they want to ask, "Hey guys, is the game any good?" cause shit the thread is there to talk about the game. If you want to talk about the game maybe you should buy it.
Personally I find it ridiculous the fact people still post spoilers about Bioshock. Everyone that doesn't want to be spoiled about that game has already played it.
Satans..... hints.....
When the internet went ZOMG GUITAR HERO last week about South Park, I was pissed. I like the surprise every week about what they're going to be covering, it's part of the fun.
Holy fuck.
This isn't the 1860s. We don't live in small isolated towns frequented by buggy riding nitwits who forage for berries to sustain life. This is 2007. Information is readily available.
This. Is. Not. Bad.
To access the internet and frequent gaming websites and then complain that people are discussing things which interest you is asinine. People on the internet were talking about a South Park episode about Guitar Hero?
Really? People on the INTERNET were discussing a SOUTH PARK episode about GUITAR HERO? You're shitting me. Who could have fucking seen that coming?
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One cannot have their cake and eat it too. To access the internet and then complain that your pwecious spoiwer hating mind was subject to information about things is little more than retarded and a complete failure on your part to recognize what you're doing.
If you don't want to read spoilers get the fuck off the internet. That's the only realistic approach to take to avoid spoilers of movies, games, or anything. It's what my friend who doesn't like spoilers does. If a game is coming out which he wants to enjoy on his own without prior knowledge? He avoids information sources like the plague. Because, you see, if he avoids sources of information he is not risking access to information he does not want.
It's a sensible approach to life.
Edit: Or maybe I'm just being unreasonable. But, to me, complaining about spoilers on the internet is like complaining about tits at hooters.
Can I ask what exactly did you feel cheated about about that you new the rough topic of South Park? It's like being upset that Assasain's Creed is set in the Crusades, there's more to the goddam story than that.
Satans..... hints.....
If I want to not have movies or games spoiled for me, I'll stick to places on the internet that have rules against spoiling shit. Like, say, this place. Even here, I'll avoid threads about the stuff I don't want spoiled. All I ask is that people posting spoilers of things in threads not related to those things put them in spoiler tags, and label them. And if people don't like that? Hey, there are all sorts of places on the internet that don't make you do that. Literally millions of them. Go to one of those places.
Anywho that's how I see it. And seriously, stop being a dick. You're discussing this in a childish manner.
and for fucks sake get rid the of death note spoiler. I only watched it translated on a pirated site, jesus.
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Posting the PM I sent _J_ along with his infraction:
We have pretty basic standards for belonging to the PA community. It seems to me that someone has to be sociopathic, deeply autistic, or otherwise unfit for human society to not only fail to meet these standards, but to actually fail to grasp their importance or significance.