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DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 3: Didn't I buy this last year? lawl56k

JoeslopJoeslop Registered User regular
edited January 2008 in Games and Technology
So the sequel to last years DBZ:BT2 is coming out soon.

A trailer. More videos at the link.

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SCREENSHOTS!

Looks like a CGI intro.
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Who the hell is this guy?
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No really, is he from GT or what?
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This movie was badass.
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Best character ever. I swear to god if he sucks in this one also there will be hell.
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Looks like the PS2 version is out already, while the Wii version is hitting December 3rd. This makes me sad because it won't be included in the buy two games get one free sale at Toys R' Us.

Features:

* Head to Head Online Play
* 10 Game modes
* Over 150 characters
* Over 20 destructible battle stages
* More than 10 types of AI balancing for your opponents
* 1-2 players

Pricing: $49.99

Controls:
  • Durr, the Wiimote.
  • Probably the GC controller
  • Maybe the classic controller too?
  • I really have no idea.

If you didn't play the second game on the Wii, I wouldn't bother getting it now that this one will be out unless it happens to have a lot of bugs.

Online play will be awesome assuming there isn't horrible video or internet lag. The 2 player slowdown in the first one was bad enough.

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  • BigJoeMBigJoeM Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    That guy is probably one of the evil dragons from GT (don't remember any but Omega off hand)

    I would totally drop one of my picks for buy 1 get 1 free if was out next week.

    Already got it budgeted for the first friday in December

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  • LynxLynx Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Did they include every DBZ and GT character ever or something? Maybe every DB character too? 150 seems a little. . .extreme.

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  • LynxLynx Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    BigJoeM wrote: »

    I would totally drop one of my picks for buy 1 get 1 free if was out next week.

    Wait, what? There's a shop doing buy 1 get 1 free next week? WHERE!?

    Lynx on
  • JoeslopJoeslop Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Lynx wrote: »
    Did they include every DBZ and GT character ever or something? Maybe every DB character too? 150 seems a little. . .extreme.

    Wikipedia quotes 161 characters. Which is just crazy.

    Half of them probably have a generic "ki beam" and that super crappy "teleport in a triangle kicking you for 20 seconds" special move.

    God I hate that move.

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  • BigJoeMBigJoeM Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Lynx wrote: »
    BigJoeM wrote: »

    I would totally drop one of my picks for buy 1 get 1 free if was out next week.

    Wait, what? There's a shop doing buy 1 get 1 free next week? WHERE!?

    Hell no that was a massive brain fart it's buy 2 get 1 free at TRU next week.

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  • DrIanMalcolmDrIanMalcolm Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I could be wrong, but I think the gold guy is Suu Shenron

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  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    The second game was barely an improvement over the first, and the third I'm expecting to be the same. The transformations were great, but the world map was terrible. Why they even had it I don't know, as it was useless. You just flew to the next fight stage.

    I want bigger maps, and a real world map. And multiple fighters, not just one on one battles.

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    So I guess this includes the 4 characters and 5 battles that were missing, huh?

    I mean, BT2 did every single fight from the Z saga through to GT, and threw in all the movies to boot. What more is there to possibly add? The entire DB arc too?

    Gotta pity the VA's though. This is literally over the 9000th (hah!) time they've had to voice the exact same story with the exact same lines. I can just hear their boredom now.

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  • JoeslopJoeslop Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Dashui wrote: »
    The second game was barely an improvement over the first, and the third I'm expecting to be the same. The transformations were great, but the world map was terrible. Why they even had it I don't know, as it was useless. You just flew to the next fight stage.

    I want bigger maps, and a real world map. And multiple fighters, not just one on one battles.

    I was lucky enough not to play the first one. I tried playing 2 with the GC controller once, it just felt bad and unintuitive. But that's probably only because I'm used to playing it with the Wiimote.

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  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    So I guess this includes the 4 characters and 5 battles that were missing, huh?

    I mean, BT2 did every single fight from the Z saga through to GT, and threw in all the movies to boot. What more is there to possibly add? The entire DB arc too?

    Gotta pity the VA's though. This is literally over the 9000th (hah!) time they've had to voice the exact same story with the exact same lines. I can just hear their boredom now.

    That's the problem with the series. The second one added a few things, but it pretty much stayed the same. They added in a few more stages, characters, and in-game transformations, but the missions and combat and small levels remained. And like I said, the world map was pretty useless. It did nothing. The third one I haven't heard of any real changes aside from a few more characters that you've never heard of. I liked the first and second games, but I see no reason to even get the third one.

    What I want from a DBZ fighting game is how it is in the show. Give us really large maps and several characters in the fight at once. Those two things alone would go a long way in making me want to buy it. Of course, there would be other things I'd want, but those two are a start. Online support wouldn't hurt, either. And a real world map that you can fly/walk around in and fight in (maybe no real big transitions, either), not just fly to the next fighting stage.

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  • mntorankusumntorankusu I'm not sure how to use this thing.... Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I really like this series, but there's not enough difference between each game.

    I played the first one on the PS2, but never owned it. I bought BT2 for the Wii off a friend real cheap, and enjoyed it, but aside from the motion controls it felt like pretty much the same game as the first one. I'd regret buying it if I already owned the first one, that's for sure.

    I don't see what this one adds to make it worth getting.

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  • JandaruJandaru New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    BigJoeM wrote: »
    That guy is probably one of the evil dragons from GT (don't remember any but Omega off hand)

    Wasn't he one of the evil dragons who later became good and helped fight Omega Shenron?
    Nova Shenron or something.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    the golden guy is Suu Shenron, and he became good and helped Goku at the end before getting killed like a punk.

    I am excited for this game.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I really like this series, but there's not enough difference between each game.

    I played the first one on the PS2, but never owned it. I bought BT2 for the Wii off a friend real cheap, and enjoyed it, but aside from the motion controls it felt like pretty much the same game as the first one. I'd regret buying it if I already owned the first one, that's for sure.

    I don't see what this one adds to make it worth getting.

    online play? more characters?

    shit, people have been buying street fighter 2 over and over for like 20 years

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  • mntorankusumntorankusu I'm not sure how to use this thing.... Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Fuuuck, Android 8 is playable? Eighter? Ha-chan?

    Okay I'm starting to see the appeal.

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  • DrIanMalcolmDrIanMalcolm Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    the golden guy is Suu Shenron, and he became good and helped Goku at the end before getting killed like a punk.

    I am excited for this game.

    I ALREADY SAID THIS

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  • Octopus MelodyOctopus Melody Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I might pick this up eventually, I never played the first or second one. I read somewhere that the controls were changed and refined a bit. I dig the fact there are a lot more DB characters and some sort of DB story mode. You can also play as Arale from Dr. Slump. I hope the online isn't a laggy mess or anything.

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  • GrathGrath I'm a much happier person these days Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2007
    don't they count like each different level and transformation a character goes through as a 'different character'?

    like "oh hey look its vegita with scouter/armor vs vegita without scouter and armor"


    still has a shitload of characters though.

    Grath on
  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    the golden guy is Suu Shenron, and he became good and helped Goku at the end before getting killed like a punk.

    I am excited for this game.

    I ALREADY SAID THIS

    like I pay attention

    alls I know is I'm trading in budokai 2 towards budokai 3, just for the online play.

    and I will school all your asses with Yajirobe.

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  • DrIanMalcolmDrIanMalcolm Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Was King Kai playable in Tenkaichi 2?

    Fuck, was Bubbles playable in Tenkaichi 2?

    Those are the characters I want

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  • Octopus MelodyOctopus Melody Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=DHLglz50Egg <-- being able to play as characters like these is the best part of this new version.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    ugh, the youtube comments hurt me physically

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    saving replays of your fights is awesome too

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Grath wrote: »
    don't they count like each different level and transformation a character goes through as a 'different character'?

    like "oh hey look its vegita with scouter/armor vs vegita without scouter and armor"


    still has a shitload of characters though.

    Well, in BT2, while they counted every transformation as a separate character, they grouped them up to keep the clutter down on the select screen. So Goku was one character and then you just cycled through forms.

    But hilariously enough, what you described is exactly what happened. There are 4 different Vegeta character slots. 1 for original villian/scouter, one for armor(with SSJ forms), one for shirt (again with SSJ forms) and one for Majin.

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=DHLglz50Egg <-- being able to play as characters like these is the best part of this new version.

    Hey look, just like I predicted. No more Z stuff so it's now DB characters.

    That's cool, I guess.

    The Wolfman on
    "The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
  • LynxLynx Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    BigJoeM wrote: »
    Lynx wrote: »
    BigJoeM wrote: »

    I would totally drop one of my picks for buy 1 get 1 free if was out next week.

    Wait, what? There's a shop doing buy 1 get 1 free next week? WHERE!?

    Hell no that was a massive brain fart it's buy 2 get 1 free at TRU next week.

    Well, I got so excited by your post, I searched all over the intarwebz looking for this spectacular deal.

    And I found it.

    KB Toys. Black Friday. Buy 1 Game Get 1 Free for their entire stock of games.

    Lynx on
  • Spanky The DolphinSpanky The Dolphin Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Nice that Chi Chi's in the game finally, though it'd be better if it wasn't just her DB kid appearance.

    Also, boo for no Mr. Popo!!

    (Still probably gonna buy it though.)

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Nice that Chi Chi's in the game finally, though it'd be better if it wasn't just her DB kid appearance.

    Also, boo for no Mr. Popo!!

    (Still probably gonna buy it though.)

    Gotta save something to add for BT4!

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    "The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
  • GuekGuek Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    a couple points

    1. That youtube video looked good. That was the wii version (you can tell by the icons that appear in the bottom left corner). I wonder if there's any difference between that and the ps2 version.

    2. I played a really early version of this game at pax. I own(ed) the DBZBT2 and enjoyed it, but 3 looks to improve on the old formula quite a bit, even if it doesn't really innovate at all. Keep in mind, my impressions are form a build that the atari guys admitted was already quite dated by the time it was shown at pax (it was the early E3 demo). Anyways, the main point I need to stress is that the motion controls fucking ROCKED. Gone are the finicky and incredibly inaccurate on screen cursor moves that determines specials. Now you just do the actual move, as shown by the icon in the bottom left corner, and you do that move on screen. It worked flawlessly when I tried it out at pax. People around me who watched me play were pretty impressed by the near nonstop kamehamehas I was throwing. on top of that, it was so much easier to combo (though I don't remember exactly why). Most people were turned off by that demo because dragon rushing was pretty much broken (something the rep confessed about right away while assuring me current builds had fixed the problem). But since I had played DBZBT2, it was really easy for me to just pick up and go.

    Trust me guys, the wii version is the way to go if you're interested in this game whatsoever.

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  • UtsanomikoUtsanomiko Bros before Does Rollin' in the thlayRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I would buy it immediately if it included Mr Popo. Hell, I'd hold out for BT4 if that would have him in it.

    You ever see that genie take on both Super Saiyan Trunks and Goten at the same time?

    Dude blocked every single attack. Mr Popo would be fucking unbeatable.

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  • AtheraalAtheraal Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    So, any more impressions on this? I already own BT2 for the Wii, and I'm wondering if I should pawn it off on someone and get this one instead.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    it has online play, that's all the excuse you need to trade up.

    unless you don't care about that sort of thing

    is king kai playable, that'd be tits

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  • JoonJoon Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=DHLglz50Egg <-- being able to play as characters like these is the best part of this new version.

    Hey look, just like I predicted. No more Z stuff so it's now DB characters.

    That's cool, I guess.

    There are Z characters left that they could do. I really don't know why they included some of these folks but not Yakon and Poi Poi.

    Joon on
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  • WienkeWienke Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Nerd glasses on:

    Ahahahaha....Broly blocking Gogeta...that's funny. Almost as bad as that video for that new Marvel game from EA where Captain America knocks the Juggernaut 50 feet into a building...

    Nerd glasses off:

    While I haven't been a fan of DBZ since like...early 2003, I usually find myself buying these games regardless. As a huge former Vegeta fan, I'd probably cry if they put in Vegeta w/ Mustache as a model. Actually, scratch that, it's so horrible they better put that in.

    Seeing as how Dragonball is kinda on its way out from a mass marketing perspective, I hope this is pretty much the best they can make this game. That being said, I probably won't be picking this up until sometime early next year :(

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  • Octopus MelodyOctopus Melody Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=LXyF6D4ecso <-- this video shows off a bunch of the characters. Grandpa Gohan and General Blue are the best parts.

    Octopus Melody on
  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2007
    I really didn't like the change of function from Budokai to Tenkaichi and if this hasn't changed from 1 and 2 I will give it a pass.

    I will ask however, have they finally just broken down and asked Toriyama to sketch ONE new bad guy for them to fight instead of rehashing the story from start to finish over and over and then adding in movie plots as well? It's an anime, just create a tiny yet insanely powerful enemy who threatens the entire universe and even throw in a SSJ5 transformation. Throw it up a bit. The what-if scenarios were fun from the first Budokai game, even if seeing Freeza head off to destroy Earth after killing Goku and Vegeta made me feel a little...bleak.
    Wienke wrote: »
    Nerd glasses on:

    Ahahahaha....Broly blocking Gogeta...that's funny. Almost as bad as that video for that new Marvel game from EA where Captain America knocks the Juggernaut 50 feet into a building...

    Nerd glasses off:

    Broly was never shown to have any upper level of power. Just saying.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Joon wrote: »
    There are Z characters left that they could do. I really don't know why they included some of these folks but not Yakon and Poi Poi.

    I suppose they didn't put Blueberry or Raspberry in, either.

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  • WienkeWienke Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I really didn't like the change of function from Budokai to Tenkaichi and if this hasn't changed from 1 and 2 I will give it a pass.

    I will ask however, have they finally just broken down and asked Toriyama to sketch ONE new bad guy for them to fight instead of rehashing the story from start to finish over and over and then adding in movie plots as well? It's an anime, just create a tiny yet insanely powerful enemy who threatens the entire universe and even throw in a SSJ5 transformation. Throw it up a bit. The what-if scenarios were fun from the first Budokai game, even if seeing Freeza head off to destroy Earth after killing Goku and Vegeta made me feel a little...bleak.
    Wienke wrote: »
    Nerd glasses on:

    Ahahahaha....Broly blocking Gogeta...that's funny. Almost as bad as that video for that new Marvel game from EA where Captain America knocks the Juggernaut 50 feet into a building...

    Nerd glasses off:

    Broly was never shown to have any upper level of power. Just saying.

    Yeah I'll say that I'm pretty much hoping for alternate scenarios at this point. They made a unique DBZ story for some movie type video game system back in the day so I don't think that asking for a little variety would be too much to ask at this point.

    Edit: I'm referencing the Playdia, a Bandai made system back in 1994.

    I could also totally turn this into a "Who is the real Legendary Super Saiyan?" argument at this point but I won't. Those always turn out worse than the Superman vs. Goku arguments 0_o So maybe I shouldn't have brought Broly's power level into this :x

    Wienke on
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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2007
    Wienke wrote: »
    I really didn't like the change of function from Budokai to Tenkaichi and if this hasn't changed from 1 and 2 I will give it a pass.

    I will ask however, have they finally just broken down and asked Toriyama to sketch ONE new bad guy for them to fight instead of rehashing the story from start to finish over and over and then adding in movie plots as well? It's an anime, just create a tiny yet insanely powerful enemy who threatens the entire universe and even throw in a SSJ5 transformation. Throw it up a bit. The what-if scenarios were fun from the first Budokai game, even if seeing Freeza head off to destroy Earth after killing Goku and Vegeta made me feel a little...bleak.
    Wienke wrote: »
    Nerd glasses on:

    Ahahahaha....Broly blocking Gogeta...that's funny. Almost as bad as that video for that new Marvel game from EA where Captain America knocks the Juggernaut 50 feet into a building...

    Nerd glasses off:

    Broly was never shown to have any upper level of power. Just saying.

    Yeah I'll say that I'm pretty much hoping for alternate scenarios at this point. They made a unique DBZ story for some movie type video game system back in the day so I don't think that asking for a little variety would be too much to ask at this point.

    I could also totally turn this into a "Who is the real Legendary Super Saiyan?" argument at this point but I won't. Those always turn out worse than the Superman vs. Goku arguments 0_o So maybe I shouldn't have brought Broly's power level into this :x

    I'll do it, watch how it takes me 6 seconds. Ancient saiyan who had black streaks in his hair during SSJ form because of the corruption his body underwent from his many evil acts. He was sealed away in a crystal by the Kai's, too powerful to be destroyed he was best kept out of the way instead. However the events on Namek and its destruction cracked his passing crystal as he floated through space and over time the crack grew until he finally escaped. Drawn by the powers on Earth, he heads there to find new challenges and destruction to thrive on.

    See? Simple, cliche but its a new story and a new villain. Its insanely easy.

    DarkWarrior on
  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I'm surprised they HAVEN'T done anything resembling a new story. The closest they've ever gotten was one of the fighting games having a few new transformations (can't remember which game, but wacky stuff like Cell absorbing Krillin). But this is the 20th game that is doing The. Exact. Same. Plot. Freshly voice acted too, because lord knows the actors weren't sick and tired of it the last 19 times.

    I mean, sure, it's a fighting game, and the genre is not known for its plots. But you just know they're going to do the same story all over again, and make you play through it again to unlock everybody. I guess the difference now is we get to start at DB rather than Z.

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