So I'm having problems as a spy dealing with engineers. How are you supposed to deal with sentry guns that the engineer is standing right next to? I can kill the engineer, then get destroyed by the sentry gun, or kill the sentry gun then get destroyed by the engineer.
Any advice?
These are all great ideas, but as Spy being my main class pretty much, i'd suggest something else. What you do is blend in with the crowd, make yourself not noticable, then approach the gun/engy. Now the best thing to do is get behind the engy and make sure the sentry is pointing away from you. If you're fast enough with switching weapons, my favorite is stabbing the engy first in the back, then RIGHT away sap the gun before it turns around all the way. This helps when you pull out sapper and spam it right after you backstab him.
If this fails, sap the gun then pull out your revolver and shoot it as many times as you can. Atleast you'll get rid of the pesky sentry, and even if he does kill you his sentry is destroyed.
i'm confused....i thought that with the fix for that saved crit bug it made it impossible to switch weapons fast enough to do this? hmmmmm
i'm confused....i thought that with the fix for that saved crit bug it made it impossible to switch weapons fast enough to do this? hmmmmm
It depends on where you are and how much health you have. If you're directly behind the sentry, you'll probably have enough time to sap it before it can turn around and kill you.
So, cloaking as a spy doesn't smoke you? What do you look like during that 1-2 second delay then? Because I know you don't cloak instantly.
edit: I really want to test this so I know for sure.
Ok ok ok let's get things clear.
1) Cloaking does NOT make you smoke. There IS however a 1-2 second delay between going invisible and becoming visible that makes you vulnerable.
2) Disguising DOES make you smoke, weither or not you are cloaked or not, so disguising as you're cloaked is very bad and pointless idea.
3) If you are undisguised and decide to cloak, it will do just that without showing any smoke, because you aren't disguising. This is great for running away AFTER you've backstabbed someone and exposed yourself.
Yea it's definitely from disguising. I actually made a habit out of not disguising while invisible. Sort of an I before E, except when no one's around you
So yea, disguise before cloaking people, or don't disguise while in cloak. You'll wind up looking like that smoke dude from Mortal Kombat.
Are you serious? The smoke shows up when cloaked? Because I do that all the time.
I... hrmm...
Jesusfuck. I do this every time I'm a Spy...
I could have sworn I've seen spies on my own team with the smoke around them. So, what you're saying is if I see smoke... SHOOT THAT FUCKER because it can't be a friendly spy....
I could have sworn I've seen spies on my own team with the smoke around them. So, what you're saying is if I see smoke... SHOOT THAT FUCKER because it can't be a friendly spy....
Yes precisely Cosby! I'm sure i'm not mistaken, but don't quote me on it just yet. I think when you die, you go in sort of Spec mode so everyone while you're waiting for spawning, that goes disguising, can be seen with smoke around them. Let me investigate this.
Shit due to all the filters and firewalls at my work, i can't access many "Gaming" websites. I did find a spy profile on Wikihow, but it didn't mention anything about disguising while cloaked. I still stand by what i said, because trust me, i've been shot in the back hundreds of times (yes probably hundreds) while trying to disguise while cloaked.
i'm confused....i thought that with the fix for that saved crit bug it made it impossible to switch weapons fast enough to do this? hmmmmm
It depends on where you are and how much health you have. If you're directly behind the sentry, you'll probably have enough time to sap it before it can turn around and kill you.
Especially if you circle-strafe in the same direction it's turning. You have plenty of time.
Edit: Rak (or whoever else), let's test it tonight, with teammates and with enemies.
Especially if you circle-strafe in the same direction it's turning. You have plenty of time.
Edit: Rak (or whoever else), let's test it tonight, with teammates and with enemies.
Ok will do i'm definitely down for this. I don't get out of work till 8, and I probably won't be on the servers till atleast 9:00/9:30, but i'll try my best to get in there ASAP.
No rush, I typically get home from work at about 7 or 8 Central anyway.
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edited November 2007
I found this neat design. Fan of course, but I think it captures the style of the game pretty well. It's for a female scout. Seems detailed enough someone could use it to make a model.
I once watched a Spy cloak, and then a few seconds later decloak as an Engineer. There was no smoke.
But it was through a grate on Dustbowl, so either the grate messes up the effect or they changed it since then. O_o
He was either a teammate, or your anti-aliasing is low/off because i know at great distances, some video cards don't show the smoke effect.
He was not a teammate, I had graphics as high as they go, and he was right in front of me on the opposite side of the gate.
EDIT: The gate may have even been open at that point, but I can't remember.
So I'm having problems as a spy dealing with engineers. How are you supposed to deal with sentry guns that the engineer is standing right next to? I can kill the engineer, then get destroyed by the sentry gun, or kill the sentry gun then get destroyed by the engineer.
Any advice?
These are all great ideas, but as Spy being my main class pretty much, i'd suggest something else. What you do is blend in with the crowd, make yourself not noticable, then approach the gun/engy. Now the best thing to do is get behind the engy and make sure the sentry is pointing away from you. If you're fast enough with switching weapons, my favorite is stabbing the engy first in the back, then RIGHT away sap the gun before it turns around all the way. This helps when you pull out sapper and spam it right after you backstab him.
If this fails, sap the gun then pull out your revolver and shoot it as many times as you can. Atleast you'll get rid of the pesky sentry, and even if he does kill you his sentry is destroyed.
TEAMWOOORK!! The only time I sap an sg is if it's in a hard spot or right as some teamates are rushing at it. Otherwise I'll just kill the engineer, go invis immediately, and let others take out the now very easy to kill sg. But as a caveat, that only works on servers where people play with their heads not up their own asses, such as PA ones.
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Disguising while cloaked does not create smoke. You're confused because disguising when you AREN'T CLOAKED - like, when you're cloakING - DOES create smoke.
I found this neat design. Fan of course, but I think it captures the style of the game pretty well. It's for a female scout. Seems detailed enough someone could use it to make a model.
I found this neat design. Fan of course, but I think it captures the style of the game pretty well. It's for a female scout. Seems detailed enough someone could use it to make a model.
I found this neat design. Fan of course, but I think it captures the style of the game pretty well. It's for a female scout. Seems detailed enough someone could use it to make a model.
Disguising while cloaked does not create smoke. You're confused because disguising when you AREN'T CLOAKED - like, when you're cloakING - DOES create smoke.
Hrm i might be mistaken then, but there's been plenty of times where i see the enemy shoot in each direction that i zig-zag in.
Seriously. Where did this "the pyro is a chick" thing come from?
Probably from people complaining about the lack of women in the game. Given that the pyro is very "anonymous" (baggy full-body suit and a muffled voice), people make the joke that the pyro is a girl, and thus there is a female class.
I guess, I don't really know what more there is to get.
I found this neat design. Fan of course, but I think it captures the style of the game pretty well. It's for a female scout. Seems detailed enough someone could use it to make a model.
I found this neat design. Fan of course, but I think it captures the style of the game pretty well. It's for a female scout. Seems detailed enough someone could use it to make a model.
I found this neat design. Fan of course, but I think it captures the style of the game pretty well. It's for a female scout. Seems detailed enough someone could use it to make a model.
I found this neat design. Fan of course, but I think it captures the style of the game pretty well. It's for a female scout. Seems detailed enough someone could use it to make a model.
Female versions of all the classes would be kinda neat
Oh lord, the heavy. The heavy!
D :
Would have to be German. I don't care if the Medic has that covered.
An Ubered yellow-eyed mountain of frau bearing down on me, minigun in hand, roaring that "Eet eez time to DIZIPLINE ZE BABIES!" would send me fleeing to the other side of the map.
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It depends on where you are and how much health you have. If you're directly behind the sentry, you'll probably have enough time to sap it before it can turn around and kill you.
edit: I really want to test this so I know for sure.
I dont know where you guys got this idea.
1) Cloaking does NOT make you smoke. There IS however a 1-2 second delay between going invisible and becoming visible that makes you vulnerable.
2) Disguising DOES make you smoke, weither or not you are cloaked or not, so disguising as you're cloaked is very bad and pointless idea.
3) If you are undisguised and decide to cloak, it will do just that without showing any smoke, because you aren't disguising. This is great for running away AFTER you've backstabbed someone and exposed yourself.
I... hrmm...
Jesusfuck. I do this every time I'm a Spy...
Apparently every time I am a very bad Spy.
a) disguise: you won't see smoke.
b) cloak: you can still see the predator type of invisiblity.
this is completely different to the opposing team, which is the utter purpose of timing these things.
Also, I can't find anywhere how to change my ingame avatar and Google is no help. I did find how to change my name, but no avatar stuff.
how is it done
edit: I am so dumb
I found it stumbling around my Steam account info
You do that on your Steam profile.
Edit: Rak (or whoever else), let's test it tonight, with teammates and with enemies.
http://www.oincwireless.com/images/PIMS/FemaleScout.png
He was not a teammate, I had graphics as high as they go, and he was right in front of me on the opposite side of the gate.
EDIT: The gate may have even been open at that point, but I can't remember.
I can see we have a member of the "no giant boobs or big booty, not female" school of thinking here.
Because a scout is lean and this is what lean women look like. Pretty amazing huh.
Female versions of all the classes would be kinda neat
It's female because it has a cricket bat, a dragon tatoo on its leg, and a bunny on its hat?
FAIL
There's the boobs, too.
I'm fairly sure she's supposed to be rather tomboyish.
But it's a video game! If i wanted realism I'd just walk around outside
pics or it didn't happen
Probably from people complaining about the lack of women in the game. Given that the pyro is very "anonymous" (baggy full-body suit and a muffled voice), people make the joke that the pyro is a girl, and thus there is a female class.
I guess, I don't really know what more there is to get.
Oh lord, the heavy. The heavy!
D :
Cosby for obvious reasons.
Flippy_D because I cannot kill Cosby, and the sniper capping is pissing me off.
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Librarians harbor a terrible secret. Find it.
Would have to be German. I don't care if the Medic has that covered.
An Ubered yellow-eyed mountain of frau bearing down on me, minigun in hand, roaring that "Eet eez time to DIZIPLINE ZE BABIES!" would send me fleeing to the other side of the map.