While I'd love to see Barbara come back as Batgirl, I can't see the current continuity being retconned that heavily in just one issue. Maybe she won't be paralyzed, but she'll still retire and become Oracle anyway.
Which brings up another point that always bothers me: with all the tech at the DC heroes' disposal, how come no one's ever bothered to offer to restore the use of Barbara's legs?
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Gabriel_Pitt(effective against Russian warships)Registered Userregular
edited November 2007
'cause she's seen what happens whenever Prof X starts hoofing around again.
Which brings up another point that always bothers me: with all the tech at the DC heroes' disposal, how come no one's ever bothered to offer to restore the use of Barbara's legs?
I think Prometheus brought that up once.
Something along the lines of suggesting she enjoys or wants to stay crippled, because what with Martian, Thanagarian, Rannian, Star Labs and New Genesis technology at her disposal, not to mention the various bits of future-tech that crop up now and then, there really is no way someone need stay wheelchair-bound.
Which brings up another point that always bothers me: with all the tech at the DC heroes' disposal, how come no one's ever bothered to offer to restore the use of Barbara's legs?
I think Prometheus brought that up once.
Something along the lines of suggesting she enjoys or wants to stay crippled, because what with Martian, Thanagarian, Rannian, Star Labs and New Genesis technology at her disposal, not to mention the various bits of future-tech that crop up now and then, there really is no way someone need stay wheelchair-bound.
If she wasn't still paralyzed, she wouldn't be able to make jokes about not feeling her legs after sex with Nightwing.
Which brings up another point that always bothers me: with all the tech at the DC heroes' disposal, how come no one's ever bothered to offer to restore the use of Barbara's legs?
The same reason that Speedy still has AIDS even though they have all those metahumans and magic users in the DCU
Which brings up another point that always bothers me: with all the tech at the DC heroes' disposal, how come no one's ever bothered to offer to restore the use of Barbara's legs?
The same reason that Speedy still has AIDS even though they have all those metahumans and magic users in the DCU
So, that'll be no good reason then?
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edited November 2007
It's a way to push aside unwanted sidekicks without reducing the TnA quotient of the books. If they were dudes, they'd both be dead.
Which brings up another point that always bothers me: with all the tech at the DC heroes' disposal, how come no one's ever bothered to offer to restore the use of Barbara's legs?
The same reason that Speedy still has AIDS even though they have all those metahumans and magic users in the DCU
Which brings up another point that always bothers me: with all the tech at the DC heroes' disposal, how come no one's ever bothered to offer to restore the use of Barbara's legs?
The same reason that Speedy still has AIDS even though they have all those metahumans and magic users in the DCU
So, that'll be no good reason then?
Pretty much
It's kind of like back in WW2 when every Superman had him beating up Nazi's, yet he never actually... you know... went in and stopped the war...
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
Which brings up another point that always bothers me: with all the tech at the DC heroes' disposal, how come no one's ever bothered to offer to restore the use of Barbara's legs?
The same reason that Speedy still has AIDS even though they have all those metahumans and magic users in the DCU
So, that'll be no good reason then?
Pretty much
It's kind of like back in WW2 when every Superman had him beating up Nazi's, yet he never actually... you know... went in and stopped the war...
I think that Red Son speak about this to some degree, of what would happen if he started doing that kinda stuff.
Which brings up another point that always bothers me: with all the tech at the DC heroes' disposal, how come no one's ever bothered to offer to restore the use of Barbara's legs?
The same reason that Speedy still has AIDS even though they have all those metahumans and magic users in the DCU
So, that'll be no good reason then?
Pretty much
It's kind of like back in WW2 when every Superman had him beating up Nazi's, yet he never actually... you know... went in and stopped the war...
I think that Red Son speak about this to some degree, of what would happen if he started doing that kinda stuff.
Miracleman too, from what I've heard.
What I'm saying is, DC and Marvel want to bring in things that people can relate to... drugs, AIDS, handicapped indivduals... but that fixing those things with some kind of magic cure would be insulting to the people who are living with them.
That's why Superman never went in and stopped Hitler, because DC (were they DC then? probably not... but whatever) felt that would be disrespectful to the service men and women currently fighting.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
This is one of those "Ignore the Man behind the Curtain" moments: one of the core suspensions of disbelief is that almost any single superhero in Marvel or DC (especially the magic users or super-geniuses) could fix all countless problems in the world, but doesn't.
This is one of those "Ignore the Man behind the Curtain" moments: one of the core suspensions of disbelief is that almost any single superhero in Marvel or DC (especially the magic users or super-geniuses) could fix all countless problems in the world, but doesn't.
I hate when they try to justify it by portraying every attempt to improve the world as the first step down a slippery slope towards totalitarianism and Armageddon.
Cured one person's blindness? That's fine. Clear two people's blindness? Awesome! Really, go ahead and cure all blindness. It's not like blindness every helped anyone.
Have you declared yourself emperor of the world and taken to punishing dissent with lasers and lobotomies? Too far!
Really, maybe you should have just stopped at curing blindness.
Cured one person's blindness? That's fine. Clear two people's blindness? Awesome! Really, go ahead and cure all blindness. It's not like blindness every helped anyone.
Have you declared yourself emperor of the world and taken to punishing dissent with lasers and lobotomies? Too far!
Really, maybe you should have just stopped at curing blindness.
Okay, replace blindness with having disfigured genitalia. Nobody's life was ever made better by having disfigured genitalia.
HA! And we both know there's no such thing as Disfigured Genitalia Man!
Oh God, radioactive waste all over my crotch! Feel... strange. More powerful! No, less powerful, and a burning sensation! Oh God, what's that running down my leg?!
One hospital visit later.
Well, so much for having sex ever again. Guess I'll need another hobby instead, like fighting crime.
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fighting crime as a substitute for sex...i think you are on to something.
Okay, replace blindness with having disfigured genitalia. Nobody's life was ever made better by having disfigured genitalia.
HA! And we both know there's no such thing as Disfigured Genitalia Man!
Oh God, radioactive waste all over my crotch! Feel... strange. More powerful! No, less powerful, and a burning sensation! Oh God, what's that running down my leg?!
One hospital visit later.
Well, so much for having sex ever again. Guess I'll need another hobby instead, like fighting crime.
Wait, what's going on? I loved The Killing Joke and I love Batman. I don't really keep up with comic books though.
What's going on in here?
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited November 2007
It'll probably end up with Booster commenting on how they can't find the Joker, and how it's been one bad day, while the Joke walks by and has a 'eureka' moment.
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It'll probably end up with Booster commenting on how they can't find the Joker, and how it's been one bad day, while the Joke walks by and has a 'eureka' moment.
-God Rip, you're so frustrating! Sometimes I wish I could paralyze your daughter, rape her and take photos of her nude, squirming form, then kidnap you and force you to wear kinky bondage gear as I put you through my carnival of terror.
-Eureka!
Yeah, I still think Booster inadvertently causing the events of The Killing Joke is way too morbid.
Maybe Booster goes back in time and knocks the Joker out, saving Babs from getting shot, only to find out that this enables her to become the next Hitler. So then he has to go back in time, dressed like a clown, and shoot her himself.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
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This is one of those "Ignore the Man behind the Curtain" moments: one of the core suspensions of disbelief is that almost any single superhero in Marvel or DC (especially the magic users or super-geniuses) could fix all countless problems in the world, but doesn't.
I hate when they try to justify it by portraying every attempt to improve the world as the first step down a slippery slope towards totalitarianism and Armageddon.
i think you just summed the current plot of the Fantastic Four book. Reed solves every social problem in the world and eventually he starts to become a ruler. Then Doctor Doom, Namor, and Black Panther go back in time to stop him, leave behind a World Sports Almanac from the future, and hi jinx ensue.
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It'll probably end up with Booster commenting on how they can't find the Joker, and how it's been one bad day, while the Joke walks by and has a 'eureka' moment.
-God Rip, you're so frustrating! Sometimes I wish I could paralyze your daughter, rape her and take photos of her nude, squirming form, then kidnap you and force you to wear kinky bondage gear as I put you through my carnival of terror.
-Eureka!
Yeah, I still think Booster inadvertently causing the events of The Killing Joke is way too morbid.
Well, here's something to ponder. John Stewart was crippled while he was a Darkstar, but I guess due to superhero affirmative action they were forced to fix his back? Heh....
I mean Soranik Natu can fix Babs' back with her eyes closed, or Kyle when he was Ion or Yat now as Ion. If they do fix her back, there's no reason why she can't be Oracle, it's not like having legs made her stupid and she became genius thanks to a bullet to the spine. If nto for the stupid Batwoman shit they pulled she could still go out and patrol and stop a bank robbery when she feels like it if they went that route.
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Which brings up another point that always bothers me: with all the tech at the DC heroes' disposal, how come no one's ever bothered to offer to restore the use of Barbara's legs?
I think Prometheus brought that up once.
Something along the lines of suggesting she enjoys or wants to stay crippled, because what with Martian, Thanagarian, Rannian, Star Labs and New Genesis technology at her disposal, not to mention the various bits of future-tech that crop up now and then, there really is no way someone need stay wheelchair-bound.
Anally.
If she wasn't still paralyzed, she wouldn't be able to make jokes about not feeling her legs after sex with Nightwing.
/seriously, it happened....
"I don't know what you did to me last night, Grayson, but now I can't feel my legs..."
The same reason that Speedy still has AIDS even though they have all those metahumans and magic users in the DCU
So, that'll be no good reason then?
Anally.
Pretty much
It's kind of like back in WW2 when every Superman had him beating up Nazi's, yet he never actually... you know... went in and stopped the war...
I think that Red Son speak about this to some degree, of what would happen if he started doing that kinda stuff.
Miracleman too, from what I've heard.
What I'm saying is, DC and Marvel want to bring in things that people can relate to... drugs, AIDS, handicapped indivduals... but that fixing those things with some kind of magic cure would be insulting to the people who are living with them.
That's why Superman never went in and stopped Hitler, because DC (were they DC then? probably not... but whatever) felt that would be disrespectful to the service men and women currently fighting.
I hate when they try to justify it by portraying every attempt to improve the world as the first step down a slippery slope towards totalitarianism and Armageddon.
Could you do any better, hmmmm?
(at helping the world, not at writing comics)
Anally.
It's just a matter of knowing where to stop.
Cured one person's blindness? That's fine. Clear two people's blindness? Awesome! Really, go ahead and cure all blindness. It's not like blindness every helped anyone.
Have you declared yourself emperor of the world and taken to punishing dissent with lasers and lobotomies? Too far!
Really, maybe you should have just stopped at curing blindness.
That concept wasn't created until the 70's.
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HA! And we both know there's no such thing as Disfigured Genitalia Man!
One hospital visit later.
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What's going on in here?
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-God Rip, you're so frustrating! Sometimes I wish I could paralyze your daughter, rape her and take photos of her nude, squirming form, then kidnap you and force you to wear kinky bondage gear as I put you through my carnival of terror.
-Eureka!
Yeah, I still think Booster inadvertently causing the events of The Killing Joke is way too morbid.
Please tell me you didn't make that up.
Anally.
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He didn't rape her.
I'm familiar with the movie, dude. That's why it would be so funny.
Anally.
I mean Soranik Natu can fix Babs' back with her eyes closed, or Kyle when he was Ion or Yat now as Ion. If they do fix her back, there's no reason why she can't be Oracle, it's not like having legs made her stupid and she became genius thanks to a bullet to the spine. If nto for the stupid Batwoman shit they pulled she could still go out and patrol and stop a bank robbery when she feels like it if they went that route.
wait... OH GOD MY PANTS ARE RUINED.