Super Smash Bros. Brawl -- "When you get the Smash Ball and do your move..."

Faustum

...a bunch of people whine a whole lot.

OP by cloudman.

READ THIS OR YOU COULD GET BANNED BY GRUMPY PEOPLE

Cardboard Tube wrote:

Don't be a dick! I'm sick of all the flaming, insults and bullshit that goes on in this thread. Enough tournament vs casual bullshit, keep it civil or keep it elsewhere. It's only a sodding game. If someone is being an ass, report them. Do not engage.

This isn't a chat thread. This thread is about Smash Brothers. Some idiot hijacked it to be about X Men at some point. On topic forum. On Topic thread. The topic is smash brothers.

No further warnings after this point, people flaming and being tossers in this thread will be seen as doing it deliberately to annoy me and probably banned because so help me I am in no mood.

ADDENDUM: DO NOT MAKE POSTS THAT SIMPLY SAY "BLUE DOT". CONTRIBUTE SOMETHING YOU JERK.



Update - 11/16/07 -- Thanks Faustum!!
<Ice Climbers: Final Smash>

<Iceberg>

The Ice Climbers’ Final Smash is Iceberg!

Calling it Iceberg is a bit problematic. I mean, it’s not like...



Ahh! I guess Iceberg IS about all you can call this!

When you get the Smash Ball and do your move...



The duo does a high-five, and...



CRRRRRSSSSSSHHHHH!



It happens even in the big city, just like this...

Ice doesn’t just make the available ledges smaller and more slippery, but it also damages your opponents!

But, of course, the Ice Climbers can handle it no problem. They look as cool and refreshed as ever.



Sometimes, you can even freeze opponents.
Now that’s just cold!

_____________________________________________________________________


E for All - New Gaming Event


Our first gameplay video posted courtesy of Faustum. Another gameplay video, also courtesy of Faustum.

FINAL SMASH COMPILATION VIDEO. Hooray Faustum!

Joshua368 found a fuckton of videos, most of which are recent.

Zec posted an adventure mode preview showing off Donkey and Diddy Kong.

StriderEdge posted an adventure mode preview showing off Kirby and Peach.

Cloudeagle posts yet another adventure mode preview showing off Pit and Mario.

Faustum posts a final adventure mode preview called Worlds Collide featuring Wario

InvisibleInk posted this interesting article: Nintendo World Reports Impressions of the E for All demo

Ultrachrist found an Official E for All Firsthand Impressions Thread put together by SmashBoards

Four Ways To Play:

Note: Each method is fully customizable so that you can map all of the controller functions yourself.

Known Returning Characters:

New Characters:

The Missing:

Missing characters from SSB and SSBM

Jigglypuff
Luigi
Captain Falcon
Ness

Gannondorf
Marth
Roy
Game and Watch
Mewtwo
Young Link
Dr. Mario
Pichu
Falco

Interesting Fact: All of these characters have one thing in common: They were all hidden characters in their respective games. None of the returning characters so far were locked when you first started up the two games.

Final Smashes:

Mario - Mario Finale

Link - Triforce Slash

Pikachu - Volt Tackle

Samus - Zero Laser

Bowser - Giga Bowser Transformation

Donkey Kong - Konga Beat

Yoshi - Super Dragon

Pit - Palutena's Army

Diddy - Rocketbarrel Barrage

Pokemon Trainer - Triple Finish

Fox - Landmaster

Kirby - Cook Kirby

Peach - Peach Blossom

Meta Knight - Galaxia Darkness

Ike - Great Aether

New Toys:

Crates and Barrels: What better to start with than basics. These item containers have been revamped to support the themes of certain levels.


Assist Trophy: This is the Pokeball of the Nintendo Universe. Any kind of cameo you could think of comes from within...


Known Assist trophies:

Hammer Bros.


Nintendog


Samurai Goroh


Dr. Wright


Knuckle Joe


Devil


Andross-retro


Lyn


Mr. Resetti


Excitebike


Lakitu


Little Mac


Gray Fox

Pokeball: An all-time favorite which still randomly gives you a pokemon to cause massive destruction with.


Known Pokemon:

Chikorita


Goldeen


Groudon


Deoxys


Munchlax


Piplup


Meowth

Gooey Bomb: The Gooey Bomb acts as a sticky Remote Mine. While stuck to a character, it can be passed back after making contact with another player.


Cracker Launcher: This projectile launcher isn't as racist as it sounds. It might be more recognizable as a 'Roman Candle'. We saw it briefly in the short clip from Min-E3.


Banana Peel: Because Cliche's work.


Bumper: A return from the 64, relatable to Melee's Flipper item. A new twist leaves this possible to plant mid-air.


Pitfall: The item from Animal Crossing. Surprisingly, it caries its ability from Animal Crossing over very well. Simply making characters fall thru holes or thru platforms.


Smoke Ball: An original item, soley based on obscurity. This item deals no damage, but rather actually just blinds the player from the screen.


Franklin Badge: Debuting from the Mother Series (Earthbound), this relates to Fox's Reflector, like the Screw Attack Ball relates to Samus' Screw Attack. Basically, it reflects projectiles.


Spicy Curry: When a Fire Flower just can't suit your flaming needs.


Golden Hammer: A coat of paint works wonders.

Announced Stages:

Battlefield (Smash Bros.):

Delfino Plaza (Mario Sunshine):

Yoshi's Island (Yoshi's Island):

Lylat Cruise (Starfox):

Bridge to Eldin (Legend of Zelda):

Smashville (Animal Crossing):

Rumble Falls (Donkey Kong):

Skyworld (Kid Icarus):

Castle Seige (Fire Emblem):

WarioWare Ince. (WarioWare)

Pokemon Stadium 2 (Pokemon)

Battleship Halberd (Kirby)

Shadow Moses Island (Metal Gear Solid)

New Pork City (Earthbound)

PictoChat (Nintendo DS)

The Summit (Ice Climber)

Norfair (Metroid)

Such Pretty Music:

First, a giant list of composers, accompanied by the new Menu Music:

Menu Theme

Now just some small clips to some music samples we've been given:

Yoshi's Story: Ending

Metroid: Ridley Battle

Ocarina of Time Medly

Star Fox: Space Armada

Kid Icarus: Underworld

Animal Crossing: Go K.K. Rider

Pokemon Stadium/Evolution

SSBB Theme Song

Metal Gear: MGS4 Love Theme

WarioWare: Ashley’s Theme

WarioWare: Ashley’s Theme (Japanese Version)

Fire Emblem: Fire Emblem Theme

Kirby: Meta Knight's Revenge

Series Represented:

So far, we've been given a list of series that have been represented, but as we get this list, its come to us out of order. We currently have gaps as shown:


1. Smash Brothers
2. Donkey Kong
3. StarFox
4. Kirby
5. F-Zero
6. Metroid
7. EarthBound/Mother
8. Pokemon
9. Zelda
10. Mario
11. Yoshi
12. Fire Emblem
13. ???
14. Ice Climbers
15. Animal Crossing
16. Wario
17. Metal Gear
18. Kid Icarus
19. ???
20. Sonic the Hedgehog
21. Nintendo DS

*21 Is the highest number we're aware of, it in no way indicates that it is the final number

Another Interesting Fact: By smash tradition, there has never been a stage from a game without a character from that series representing this. That and an interview on the subject lead many to believe that an Animal Crossing character is all but confirmed.

However the Pictochat stage has thrown a monkey wrench into this theory! This is because Sakurai is insane.

Super Secret Tourney Stuff

SUPER SECRET ELITE FIRST PA BRAWL TOURNAMENT EVER SIGN UP LIST:
(PM Nickle if you're in. Let's see if we can get this up to 128. Include your state (or Large Canadian State), please.)
UPDATED 11/16
Name State
1. Nickle IL
2. Guek WA
3. BlueBlue MS
4. Speakeasy CA
5. TempleWolf MN
6. quovadis13 ON, CA
7. cloudeagle OK
8. Joshua368 SC
9. Djiem Canada somewhere, I think
11. Redfenix
12. Mntorankusu KY
13. Ronen NY
14. Phanman
15. Pata
16. shyguy NY
17. Sharp10r NC
18. LordNibbler NY
19. ruiisu FL
20. Behemoth WA
21. Bulbasaur ON, CA
22. MetaHybrid ON, CA
23. willmannyeatthat MA
24. ArcSyn NJ
25. Munkus Beaver
26. Shabutie CA
27. Brue CA
28. Arcibi KY
29. Squashua FL
30. urahonky OH
31. Aydr WA
32. Faustum TX
33. Fishguy NM
34. Khavall PA
35. Improvolone FL
36. Goatmon CA
37. Niceguyeddie616 MA
38. Reigner PA
39. Gino WI
40. Zealous One CA
41. Woot427 IL
42. Monsty ND
43. Gunwarrior (Maybe) CA
44. Taramoor WA
45. Captain Crunch BC, CA
46. Gorilla Salad TX
47. Snork CT/PA
48. Jrosey WA
49. Tehcoolryan CA
50. Atheraal
51. Toothy KY
52. JLM-AWP
53. Zimarooski TX
54. Yalborap
55. Jarhog
56. Rehab NE
57. Rollout MTL, QC, CA
58. Gravija IL
59. Aioua WA
60. Hylianbunny ON, CA
61. SkyGheNe CT
62. BahamutZERO CA
63. Vann Diras IN
64. No Great Name East Coast
65. AshtonDragon NL, CA
66. Bibble TN
67. InivisibleInk OR
68. aaronsedge AR
69. Mushroom Pie
70. Greg343 KS
71. Corp.Shephard NC
72. Kupi NC
73. Kor NM
74. TehSpectre
75. JustinChar99 FL
76. Godfather TX
77. Zen Vulgarity FL
78. Manetheren AL
79. mts CA
80. RedMageDarion ME
81. Tachyon CO
82. Zampano NH
83. Zek NJ
84. Inquisitor CA
85. Manaleak34 WA
86. Cloudman MO
87. mr_ekim CA
88. Ruins MD
89. ChopperDave
90. Qorzm CA
91. CaspianX CA
92. Fig-D CA
93. Spoof
94. Mtvcdm WI
95. Dusda OR
96. Geod VA
97. Red Gear NY
98. Mighty TX
99. Brokecracker IN
100. HylianZora OH
101. LightRider TX
102. PikaPuff
103. tony_important NS, CA

Faustum

No blue dots, boy-o's.

TelMarine

smash TV, I think that may be trademarked. (RE: new update)

BahamutZERO

Man, after all the "OH MY GOD" sorts of surprises that have been unveiled so far, I'll be really disappointed if this spectator mode really does only show random matches, and there's no way to see specific ones. So much wasted potential if that's how it turns out.

Athenor

Smash TV is, but I don't think Brawl TV is.

I wonder if Nintendo has the ability to create new stickers in the future and download them via spectator mode. After all, they are just images.

RCagent

This was an okay update, not lame at all. I can feel myself getting some popcorn and watching some matches aslong as I get some kickass camera angles.



But seriously, Sakurai, wtf are the coins for?

The Wolfman

TelMarine wrote: »

smash TV, I think that may be trademarked. (RE: new update)

Screw the haters, this is exactly what it is, and I love it. Sometimes, as weird as it sounds, I'm playing, but I don't really feel like playing. So I'll just set up matches between the computer and watch them play out. Now you can do that at the press of a button, but get human players behind the characters.

Heck, while reading the update, I had this thought in my head of setting up a TV to this, and have Smash Bros matches like a bar t.v, and setting up bets and such. And then they go and mention you can bet on the matches!

Seriously, this is a bitchin' update!

Qorzm

This week and last were terrible

FCD

Ike's Final Smash and MK's music were the only high points of the week, really.

RCagent

Hmmm, this update seems to hint at a "Quick Brawl" mode. I'm guessing where everyone just gets random characters and a random stage and fights.

TelMarine

so are we at two weeks now without a character reveal?

Captain Crunch

November's updates have been so shitty

The Wolfman

BahamutZERO wrote: »

Man, after all the "OH MY GOD" sorts of surprises that have been unveiled so far, I'll be really disappointed if this spectator mode really does only show random matches, and there's no way to see specific ones. So much wasted potential if that's how it turns out.

I don't see how this system would be feasible. First off, it's not like you can instantly tell who's a pro and who's a beginner just from an online name. Second, matches tend to go by fairly quickly. Which leads into the 3rd: In order to take advantage of such an act, you'd have to advertise your match ahead of time, so spectators could log in and watch your fight. Nice I guess for the competitive crowd who want to set up matches with audiences, but I thought we already established that most people here don't give two shits about FoxEliteGamer2091 and his upcoming match against FiNALdesTInATIOn69. Plus the simple act of having to advertise it would be a pain in and of itself.

I can see how it's a good idea, but I don't see how you could pull it off.

Faustum

TelMarine wrote: »

so are we at two weeks now without a character reveal?

That'll be remedied on Monday.

Faustum

The Wolfman wrote: »

BahamutZERO wrote: »

Man, after all the "OH MY GOD" sorts of surprises that have been unveiled so far, I'll be really disappointed if this spectator mode really does only show random matches, and there's no way to see specific ones. So much wasted potential if that's how it turns out.

I don't see how this system would be feasible. First off, it's not like you can instantly tell who's a pro and who's a beginner just from an online name. Second, matches tend to go by fairly quickly. Which leads into the 3rd: In order to take advantage of such an act, you'd have to advertise your match ahead of time, so spectators could log in and watch your fight. Nice I guess for the competitive crowd who want to set up matches with audiences, but I thought we already established that most people here don't give two shits about FoxEliteGamer2091 and his upcoming match against FiNALdesTInATIOn69. Plus the simple act of having to advertise it would be a pain in and of itself.

I can see how it's a good idea, but I don't see how you could pull it off.

I think he is speaking more of being able to view matches between people who you share friendcodes with, which would undeniably be a great and feasible feature.

BahamutZERO

Faustum wrote: »

The Wolfman wrote: »

BahamutZERO wrote: »

Man, after all the "OH MY GOD" sorts of surprises that have been unveiled so far, I'll be really disappointed if this spectator mode really does only show random matches, and there's no way to see specific ones. So much wasted potential if that's how it turns out.

I don't see how this system would be feasible. First off, it's not like you can instantly tell who's a pro and who's a beginner just from an online name. Second, matches tend to go by fairly quickly. Which leads into the 3rd: In order to take advantage of such an act, you'd have to advertise your match ahead of time, so spectators could log in and watch your fight. Nice I guess for the competitive crowd who want to set up matches with audiences, but I thought we already established that most people here don't give two shits about FoxEliteGamer2091 and his upcoming match against FiNALdesTInATIOn69. Plus the simple act of having to advertise it would be a pain in and of itself.

I can see how it's a good idea, but I don't see how you could pull it off.

I think he is speaking more of being able to view matches between people who you share friendcodes with, which would undeniably be a great and feasible feature.

Yeah, that's what I meant. So we could watch each others' tournament matches and whatnot.

Baka_Shade

Faustum wrote: »

TelMarine wrote: »

so are we at two weeks now without a character reveal?

That'll be remedied on Monday.

That's what I like about reading this thread. The eternal optimism.

Rami

I dreamt of Captain Falcon this morning. His final smash was his car zooming on screen from the left (smashing anyone it hit), and then he jumps inside and zooms off to the right, and then he does a few lightning fast drive bys from either the left or right at various altitudes (probably selected by the player).

I was really hoping he would be today after that

Faustum

Baka_Shade wrote: »

Faustum wrote: »

TelMarine wrote: »

so are we at two weeks now without a character reveal?

That'll be remedied on Monday.

That's what I like about reading this thread. The eternal optimism.

No matter how slow the weeks go by, no matter how shitty the updates are, no matter how many threads have stupid shit in them about krystal or pros or items or x-men

We have it there, in digital ink, a release date

A tiny, otherwise insignificant date in the distance, a shining beacon in a world of bleakness

And that is why we trudge on

The Wolfman

BahamutZERO wrote: »

Faustum wrote: »

The Wolfman wrote: »

BahamutZERO wrote: »

Man, after all the "OH MY GOD" sorts of surprises that have been unveiled so far, I'll be really disappointed if this spectator mode really does only show random matches, and there's no way to see specific ones. So much wasted potential if that's how it turns out.

I don't see how this system would be feasible. First off, it's not like you can instantly tell who's a pro and who's a beginner just from an online name. Second, matches tend to go by fairly quickly. Which leads into the 3rd: In order to take advantage of such an act, you'd have to advertise your match ahead of time, so spectators could log in and watch your fight. Nice I guess for the competitive crowd who want to set up matches with audiences, but I thought we already established that most people here don't give two shits about FoxEliteGamer2091 and his upcoming match against FiNALdesTInATIOn69. Plus the simple act of having to advertise it would be a pain in and of itself.

I can see how it's a good idea, but I don't see how you could pull it off.

I think he is speaking more of being able to view matches between people who you share friendcodes with, which would undeniably be a great and feasible feature.

Yeah, that's what I meant. So we could watch each others' tournament matches and whatnot.

Ah, ok, that I could see working. Assuming everybody here registers everybody else's code and whatnot. Which would be done anyways.

Professor Wayne

i kind of like the new spectator mode. i definitely won't be using it very much, but it will be cool to watch a random match every now and then. i don't like that it says that it will always be automatic. i think it would be pretty sweet if you could connect with friends and watch them go at it

LightRider

Well, if they're capturing entire matches and then sending them to Nintendo at random, then there should be the ability to save matches yourself, maybe send them to friends. Hopefully.

starmanbrand

This week sucked.

Bad.

Does that mean next week will be new, first time combatants all week?

Elendil

starmanbrand wrote: »

This week sucked.

Bad.

Does that mean next week will be new, first time combatants all week?

That's what we said before last week.

FCD wrote: »

Ike's Final Smash and MK's music were the only high points of the week, really.

Ike's FS is hardly what I'd call a high point. Definitely the music and spectator mode are the only things worth caring about this week.

Olivaw

I think you guys are spoiled

I liked these updates

I mean I would have preferred to see new characters, but really any information at all about Smash is welcome

Mgslee

now all they need to confirm is a "quarter" mode where you can rotate in and out via online.
Winner stays type system

Rhaka

I wonder how many stickers there are. Seems like you get stickers for everything.

ghost_master2000

seriuosly, I don't know how you guys can be so disappointed about such a cool feature like this.

Faustum

ghost_master2000 wrote: »

seriuosly, I don't know how you guys can be so disappointed about such a cool feature like this.

Its not the feature itself (if it is they are dumb), but the apparent lack of proper implementation. Only time will tell.


I'll still pumped. I LOVE observing games of any kind.

AJAlkaline40

Does anyone have an awesome Sonic video? I need to study his moves. I need to be good with Sonic.

starmanbrand

Man, you guys are pretty lame if you think spectator mode is special.

Oh whoa, I can watch brawl?! STICKERS!?

I'd rather have them announce some new stupid pokemon character than some lame feature.

Honestly, how often are you going to want to get on the ol' wii and WATCH some random people play smash. Wouldn't you rather...Play it yourself?

BTP

After seeing this update, there absolutely needs to be a hockey game coming to Wii that uses this mode. It will be the closest thing to a 24 hour hockey channel, and HOLY SHIT I NEED A 24 HOUR HOCKEY CHANNEL!

Crashmo

So Daisy as a Peach alt. costume confirmed?

I rather like this update, I'm sure I'll have this playing on the tv sometimes while I'm PC gaming or some such. You never know what nifty tricks you might see. Or afkers >.>

Edit: Starman, if they announced something amazing every weekday then I'm pretty sure there would nothing new left when the game comes out. How about you praise the name of Sakurai, and offer your humble prayers that he continues take time out of his busy schedule of making possibly the greatest game of the year to show us glimpses of what will be ours to enjoy in the future? Or you could just stop being a whiny bat rastard. Either works. [/fanboy]

eelektrik

TelMarine wrote: »

so are we at two weeks now without a character reveal?

Three. The last two weeks have been full of boring, and the week before that at least had Stage Builder to discuss all week, but once November hit, the boring commenced. Tonights brand of boring is at least new boring, instead of stuff we already knew. Monday better be Mega Man to go along with the Sunday's Mega Man anniversary event.

As a recap, heres what we've gotten over the last 3 weeks...

10/29 Stage Builder
10/30 Classic
10/31 The Summit
11/1 Meta Knight: Final Smash
11/2 Character Intros

11/5 Fox Video, Fire Emblem Music
11/6 Items from Previous Installments
11/7 Gray Fox, Grab and Throw
11/8 Lucas Special Moves
11/9 Norfair

11/12 Ike: Final Smash
11/13 Taunts
11/14 Handicap
11/15 Meta Knight Moves and Music
11/16 Spectator

Faustum

starmanbrand wrote: »

Man, you guys are pretty lame if you think spectator mode is special.

Oh whoa, I can watch brawl?! STICKERS!?

I'd rather have them announce some new stupid pokemon character than some lame feature.

Honestly, how often are you going to want to get on the ol' wii and WATCH some random people play smash. Wouldn't you rather...Play it yourself?

Yeah man options and new modes SUCK

I think you should report your findings to the entertainment industry, if people were to catch wind of this a lot of money could be lost

Faustum

Uh, StageBuilder, Fox Video, and Spectator were all great updates

but mostly StageBuilder

Elendil

Faustum wrote: »

Uh, StageBuilder, Fox Video, and Spectator were all great updates

but mostly StageBuilder

The Summit was rad, too.

Faustum

AJAlkaline40 wrote: »

Does anyone have an awesome Sonic video? I need to study his moves. I need to be good with Sonic.

Faustum at your service

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4lwOjKErEU

Elendil

Faustum wrote: »

AJAlkaline40 wrote: »

Does anyone have an awesome Sonic video? I need to study his moves. I need to be good with Sonic.

Faustum at your service

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4lwOjKErEU

Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB5t54Lxr34

starmanbrand

This Just In: Stage Builder, where you get to design your own freaking levels, is offical tied in the polls with spectator, a mode that is basically "watch your friends play smashbrothers" for people that have no friends. +stickers.

More at 11!

sorry, this week has just pissed me off, and the cherry on the crappyupdate sunday is watching people play instead of playing myself.

I hope next week:

They put up a demo of brawl on the site that you can only download onto your wii. Then make that linked site unreachable from the wii due to some browser limitation.

And if you download it on your computer, all your get is the girl spinning the leek. Forever installed to your background desktop.

Faustum

starmanbrand wrote: »

This Just In: Stage Builder, where you get to design your own freaking levels, is offical tied in the polls with spectator, a mode that is basically "watch your friends play smashbrothers" for people that have no friends. +stickers.

More at 11!

Recently, I've tried to become less insulting in my posts since it seems people take what I say the wrong way, but frankly, you're a goddamned moron.

More Sonic Videos!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JfRcH9MERGA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1BOtMayVuVg

Elendil wrote: »

Faustum wrote: »

AJAlkaline40 wrote: »

Does anyone have an awesome Sonic video? I need to study his moves. I need to be good with Sonic.

Faustum at your service

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4lwOjKErEU

Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB5t54Lxr34

HOLY SHIT I hadn't seen that one before. Hahaha that ending is incredible. That is definitely the best Sonic video from E for All I've seen.