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[NEED ADVICE] My Girlfriend Wants to Try RPGS

res0nationres0nation Registered User regular
edited March 2008 in Games and Technology
I've been dating this girl for about two years, and she hasn't expressed interest in gaming until recently. She let me install Sims 2 on her laptop about a year ago, but that's it.

Yesterday she said that role playing games interest her. My response was "are you trying to give me an erection?" I asked her what she thought role playing games were and she said something along the lines of "I guess a game where you have to make decisions about what you want to do, and you have an impact on the story, and not just shooting people." Yeah, I know. But that's what I have to work with.

Here's the challenge:
Platform: Laptop with 512mb RAM
Target: Girl non-gamer, English Major, Total Babe, only played the Sims 2
Game: More focused on player than story, low system requirements, non-intimidating.

I've already ruled out the Fallout series (maybe later if I can get her hooked), The Longest Journey (too linear... she'll get bored), Planetscape (too bizzare at this point) and Neverwinter Nights (decisions are mostly about math). I'm on the fence about the Baulder's Gate series...

Oblivion seems noob friendly enough, but it won't run on her computer. Morrowind probably wouldn't do so hot either. I absolutely love RPGs but haven't played any obscure ones, so I'm hoping perhaps a couple members of this fine community can point me to some gems that I'm missing. Do it for the children. My children. If she becomes a gamer we might be making babies very soon.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2007
    Honestly, I'd see if you can find some of the old point and click stuff, like Sam and Max or day of the tentacle.

    KOTOR is great as far as story goes, and having an impact on what happens. I seem to recall it being rather newbie friendly, complete with a mode that takes care of the technical character building stuff.


    If you have a DS, or are willing to buy her one, I would get that and Phoenix Wright/Hotel Dusk.

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  • yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Morrowind might run. I could get acceptable framerates on a truly shitty PC way back when. If you have a copy, it's worth a shot.

    You also have the non-video-game option to get her used to mechanics and open to the concept that "dust off and nuke them from orbit" is almost always an acceptable strategy to solving problems.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Baldur's Gate 2, if she can handle the interface.
    Alternately, Anachronox or Bloodlines are both much more story than combat-centric.

    Planescape would be the game most fitted to her description, though.

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  • Ghandi 2Ghandi 2 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I didn't play Oblivion, but I would advise against Morrowind, even if she could run it. She probably wants something more structured; hell, *I* never got any significant amount into the game because I got tired of running around not knowing what to do (and the loading times made me angry).

    I think KOTOR would be good. You might have to help her with the stats (the autolevelling is crap, seriously), but it's very friendly and you can have lots of impact on the different parts of the game.

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  • Cynic JesterCynic Jester Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Planescape Torment for reals yo.

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  • EddieDeanEddieDean Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    KotOR's a great idea. It's not too massive or too gritty, like some of the BG/PT/NWN games can be. It's relatively easy, and the plot's excellent.

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  • HozHoz Cool Cat Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    It's better to taser her in the vagina instead of giving her Morrowind as a "story RPG".

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  • NorayNoray Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Yeah, KOTOR seems like a good choice. It's pretty much the only D&D based RPG I could get into (BG-esque games are too dense for my liking), so it might work the same for her. Lots of choices, not too hard.

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  • SunshineLollypopsRainbowsSunshineLollypopsRainbows __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2007
    I'd try getting her into the new Sam and Max's, but if you want a straight RPG...KOTOR if she can dig Star Wars, otherwise...Hmm. NOT Morrowind or Oblivion, or any Bethesda RPG for that matter.

    Baldur's Gate or even Fallout sound good from her requirements.

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  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Do both of you a favor and get an Xbox 360 with Mass Effect THREAD OVER!

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  • BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Morrowind would run on 512, but it doesn't sound like the sort of RPG she'd be into.

    I'd vote Vampire; The Masquerade - Bloodlines, KOTOR or Baldur's Gate 2 (1 is not that interesting.) I'd say it depends on whether you think she'd prefer a more fantasy, horror or sci-fi based setting?

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  • EriosErios Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Dashui wrote: »
    Do both of you a favor and get an Xbox 360 with Mass Effect THREAD OVER!

    Indeed. Or an SNES with Chrono Trigger and FFVI (though both are starting to get a tad dated in terms of story :( ).

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  • AselithAselith Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    We really can't make a proper recommendation until we know what she looks like. This is *very* important.

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  • EddieDeanEddieDean Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Oh actually yeah, Vampire is a pretty good candidate. Straightforward, not too easy to get stuck in, lots of dark fun.

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  • SunshineLollypopsRainbowsSunshineLollypopsRainbows __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2007
    EddieDean wrote: »
    Oh actually yeah, Vampire is a pretty good candidate. Straightforward, not too easy to get stuck in, lots of dark fun.

    Just patch it first.

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  • leafleaf Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Dreamfall, it's one of the only 'rpg's that I actually can sit down and play AND have fun. Should run decently on that laptop.

    Also, posting in a MY GIRLFRIEND thread

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  • leafleaf Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    It's close enough in my books.

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  • LeumasWhiteLeumasWhite New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    EddieDean wrote: »
    Oh actually yeah, Vampire is a pretty good candidate. Straightforward, not too easy to get stuck in, lots of dark fun.

    Just patch it first.

    Vampire is probably the worst choice ever for somebody interested more in story than shooting, since the action gets a bit mental, and isn't likely to run well on that laptop.

    I'd pick KOTOR. Combat you can pause and think about goes a long way towards helping new people into games.

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  • NewresNewres Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Is she is interested in puzzle games too than puzzle quest. Not sure about the requirements but they should be pretty low.

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Yeah, I kind of doubt that laptop will be able to handle Bloodlines very well.

    KOTOR is probably the best suggestion, if she's okay with star wars. Pretty light and easy overall. If that works out, then move to your meatier fare: Torment, Baldur's Gate 2, KOTOR 2, etc.

    People seem to be suggesting adventure games too, so I'll throw out the Monkey Island games. They've always been my favorites.

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  • BakerIsBoredBakerIsBored Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Diablo / Diablo 2 ?

    Is she looking for turned based or action RPG... :X

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  • Ghandi 2Ghandi 2 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    KOTOR 2 is meatier than KOTOR 1!? I liked the game and all, but KOTOR was way better (and, of course, had a real ending).

    Diablo isn't the RPG she is looking for because you don't make any choices. Your only decisions are how to kill things and what equipment will best help you kill things.

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  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    There's always Puzzle Quest. :P

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  • Road BlockRoad Block Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Option A: Chrono Trigger: Exelent game. A bit dated though still well worth it. That said your story affecting choices are slightly limited. Some but the mainstream of the story wont change.

    Option B: KOTOR 1/2: Never actually played 1 myself though I enjoyed 2 and the going theroy seems to be 1 is better. Good for making choices that atleast have abit of affect on the story.

    Option C: Planescape Torment: This aint a beginers game by any means. However if she is an Englsh Major the Bookfulls of writing might not be such an issue. Even so avoid it for awhile. That said it needs to be played.

    Option D : Stalker: A possibility. Might be a bit to shooty for her tastes. But what you do and do not do does have an affect on the story.

    Basically repeating whats been said plus stalker.

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  • BakerIsBoredBakerIsBored Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Ghandi 2 wrote: »
    KOTOR 2 is meatier than KOTOR 1!? I liked the game and all, but KOTOR was way better (and, of course, had a real ending).

    Diablo isn't the RPG she is looking for because you don't make any choices. Your only decisions are how to kill things and what equipment will best help you kill things.

    The cube is a puzzle, you put in different items/gems and if you figure out the right puzzle, you might make something cool.... Like purple potions. :)

    I played KOTOR... I don't remember "puzzles".... Maybe a choice between being good or bad, but that isn't a puzzle. Being good or bad, can be applied to D2 if she played online... she could have the choice to PK people, or not PK....

    Act 3 Sanctuary was always random, and random spawn of the Wizard... that could count as a puzzle :P

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  • BakerIsBoredBakerIsBored Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    res0nation wrote: »
    Here's the challenge:
    Platform: Laptop with 512mb RAM
    Target: Girl non-gamer, English Major, Total Babe, only played the Sims 2
    Game: More focused on player than story, low system requirements, non-intimidating.

    I've already ruled out the Fallout series (maybe later if I can get her hooked), The Longest Journey (too linear... she'll get bored), Planetscape (too bizzare at this point) and Neverwinter Nights (decisions are mostly about math). I'm on the fence about the Baulder's Gate series...

    Oblivion seems noob friendly enough, but it won't run on her computer. Morrowind probably wouldn't do so hot either. I absolutely love RPGs but haven't played any obscure ones, so I'm hoping perhaps a couple members of this fine community can point me to some gems that I'm missing. Do it for the children. My children. If she becomes a gamer we might be making babies very soon.

    Diablo 2 should also work on a laptop like that...
    Its also "more focused on the player" than the story. Although I do like the story.

    eh, well thats what I suggest, g/l.

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  • ScrabbleDudeScrabbleDude Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Not exactly an RPG but I'd say Indigo Prophecy. You don't affect the story overall, but you do affect how the game plays in different ways. It's also not shooty but it does have some fun action sequences.

    Failing that and sticking with the PC as a platform, then Puzzle Quest sounds like a good start.

    If she's a typical girl then I'd immediately toss any ideas of a Star Wars RPG or an Elder Scrolls RPG. In fact, I'd toss all thoughts of high fantasy out the window right away. To be brought in if she decides she wants to go deeper into gaming.

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  • MaydayMayday Cutting edge goblin tech Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    res0nation wrote: »
    I asked her what she thought role playing games were and she said something along the lines of "I guess a game where you have to make decisions about what you want to do, and you have an impact on the story, and not just shooting people." Yeah, I know. But that's what I have to work with.

    What are you talking about? That's exactly what RPGs are about.
    about about about lol!

    Anyway, my prescription: Ultima7 (use Exult), Planescape, Fallout, Arcanum, Bloodlines. In that order, probably.

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  • Ghandi 2Ghandi 2 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Ghandi 2 wrote: »
    KOTOR 2 is meatier than KOTOR 1!? I liked the game and all, but KOTOR was way better (and, of course, had a real ending).

    Diablo isn't the RPG she is looking for because you don't make any choices. Your only decisions are how to kill things and what equipment will best help you kill things.

    The cube is a puzzle, you put in different items/gems and if you figure out the right puzzle, you might make something cool.... Like purple potions. :)

    I played KOTOR... I don't remember "puzzles".... Maybe a choice between being good or bad, but that isn't a puzzle. Being good or bad, can be applied to D2 if she played online... she could have the choice to PK people, or not PK....

    Act 3 Sanctuary was always random, and random spawn of the Wizard... that could count as a puzzle :P
    There were some puzzles in KOTOR. The only ones I remember at the moment are the Manaan underwater puzzle and the Sith tomb bonus, but there were several others. Even so, she's not looking for puzzles. The point is that you have no effect on the story or any of the other characters in D2 SP. I don't think MP counts. I never even played D2 online much (which may be why I'm not much of a fan).

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  • Mr_GrinchMr_Grinch Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Little Big Adventure 1 & 2?

    Pretty simple, low system specs and story-driven.

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  • MaydayMayday Cutting edge goblin tech Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Yeah... I'm not really sure what's going on- he asks for RPGs and lots of people keep mentioning adventure games- are those ok too?

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  • lazyboilazyboi Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I second Arcanum. Should work with those specs without a problem. My girlfriend was hooked on that for a long while, and it still occasionally sees some play.

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  • FalxFalx Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Some of the older turn-based RPG's might be good, I can't recall any soul-destroying puzzles though.

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  • FantasyrogueFantasyrogue Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    If she likes Star Wars, then yes, go with KOTOR. As great as Planescape is, I really think it's not the most suitable rpg to start someone on and I'm not sure about some of the other suggestions either. You could give Baldur's Gate 2 a try (just make sure she picks the right stats at the beginning so she doesn't end up screwed due to bad stat distribution).

    I see people are suggesting adventure games (despite the girl asking for rpgs) but you're all missing the obvious option here. The Quest for Glory games, rpg/adventure hybrids. But that's only if adventure games are also an option, which I'm not sure as they're not really rpgs.

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  • ScrabbleDudeScrabbleDude Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Mayday wrote: »
    Yeah... I'm not really sure what's going on- he asks for RPGs and lots of people keep mentioning adventure games- are those ok too?
    I asked her what she thought role playing games were and she said something along the lines of "I guess a game where you have to make decisions about what you want to do, and you have an impact on the story, and not just shooting people."
    So, taking into account that she doesn't know what an RPG is and taking into the account that she's not a gamer, I think an adventure game can fit the criteria just fine depending on the game. Since she's not a gamer I wouldn't want to throw high fantasy or complex systems at her right away. Thus, Indigo Prophecy was my recommendation.

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  • MaydayMayday Cutting edge goblin tech Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    But she does know what an RPG is very well!

    EDIT: to clarify, an adventure game is one where you don't have an impact on the story, you just push it further by solving puzzles.

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  • xYUUBINKYOKUxxYUUBINKYOKUx Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Just go get her a GBA and one of the final fantasy's (not 1&2 they are good but not nearly as good as say 4 or 6). A GBA is like what $50 these days?

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  • BakerIsBoredBakerIsBored Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Just go get her a GBA and one of the final fantasy's (not 1&2 they are good but not nearly as good as say 4 or 6). A GBA is like what $50 these days?

    I have a Black one I can sell :P

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  • SwashbucklerXXSwashbucklerXX Swashbucklin' Canuck Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I would definitely encourage you to try to get any of the Ultimas 5-7 going on the laptop. Arcanum, too, though she'll have to be patient with Arcanum because it takes a little while to get into.

    And don't discount The Longest Journey right away. One summer during university, I lived in a house with 7 other women. Only two of us were gamers, but by the end of the summer every woman in the house had sat down with (and enjoyed) The Longest Journey just because they'd seen one of us playing it and thought it seemed neat. Yeah, it's linear and it's not an RPG, but the story is compelling.

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  • JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I'm going to have to agree with KotOR as the easiest to get into from a gameplay perspective, but a great deal depends on how open she is to Star Wars as a setting. Arcanum takes more work to get into, but it's more likely to function on a low-powered laptop, and the setting is practically designed as a high-powered trap for English majors. In my own experience the string soundtrack, Victorian costumes, and ultra-refined dialog choices are pure crack for literary types.

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