I also love how you bring up Excitetruck as a game that wouldn't cut it on another system when it is basically a more fun version of Motorstorm, a PS3 "Must Have" game.
Even if the Wii fails, it's nice to see developers getting a bit more creative. And not just on the Wii, but for every system. Even if the Wii fails, at least it's forced developers to tread into new territory.
This was very true for me as well. I really didn't even play that many games last gen, and most of them seemed like a nicely polished version of the same thing. If it wasn't for Nintendo I probably would have quit playing games last gen. Only the DS and the Wii have kept me interested in games.
After reading this thread (which is pretty much like all other Wii impression threads), I am even more confident in knowing that most of the excuses for not buying them are bullshit. That's not to say that there isn't a real reason for not liking/wanting it, but some that are said just sound stupid.
"It's not aimed toward me." - My friends would make fun of me because they all have 360s and PS3s.
"There aren't any games that interest me." - I'm a born-and-bred FPS gamer.
"It seems like a gimmick to me." - I hope it fails.
"The only good titles are Nintendo-made titles." - Too much "teh kiddy", I want realism.
That last one really gets me. I have no idea why Nintendo brand games being fucking AWESOME is considered a bad thing. It's the fault of the third-party developers for not stepping up and doing what it takes to make a game sell well.
I know I probably pissed a lot of people off with this post, but from my personal experience, it is just a problem with people being too stubborn or brainwashed to think that games with colors are only for kids, and that Madden is God.
Halo 3 is a great game. GREAT. I own it, and play it regularly, and I have a blast playing with my friends. But the funny thing is, all of the awesome/inventive features in Halo have almost nothing to do with the gameplay, but rather the online experience or media-based content and features. It's an FPS with a bunch of bells and whistles that one can use in between actual games, and when preparing to play the game.
Nintendo is trying to change the way you play games throughout the entire experience. For the best current example, see Phantom Hourglass. I tend to think that people who can't see or realize this are much less educated about games in general than most of us here on PA, and can say NOTHING about the "casual" gamers picking up the Wii.
I finally bought my Wii in late september because we had a good enough financing offer, and I wanted a TV, so I threw the Wii in with the package.
To date I only have 5 games (Three of which I got because of the B2G1 free sale this week) but it's definitely my favorite console to date.
In fact, this reminds me...I really need to pay more attention to my DS before I get too far behind on games for it.
Why do people use the jackets for the remote? Don't they block battery access and feel odd when there's a raised surface next to the remote's plastic? They look stupid too, in my opinion. I mean, all year it was - "Ugh, look at those jackets they're selling! Awful! Why would anyone want them?" Then... "Nintendo's giving away these awesome remote jackets! Hell yeah!"
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...and I thought of how all those people died, and what a good death that is. That nobody can blame you for it, because everyone else died along with you, and it is the fault of none, save those who did the killing.
I finally bought my Wii in late september because we had a good enough financing offer, and I wanted a TV, so I threw the Wii in with the package.
To date I only have 5 games (Three of which I got because of the B2G1 free sale this week) but it's definitely my favorite console to date.
In fact, this reminds me...I really need to pay more attention to my DS before I get too far behind on games for it.
Why do people use the jackets for the remote? Don't they block battery access and feel odd when there's a raised surface next to the remote's plastic? They look stupid too, in my opinion.
I also love how you bring up Excitetruck as a game that wouldn't cut it on another system when it is basically a more fun version of Motorstorm, a PS3 "Must Have" game.
I was skeptical at first, but I ended up actually liking the jackets. It might be because I have large hands, and the remote always felt a bit small, to me.
I finally bought my Wii in late september because we had a good enough financing offer, and I wanted a TV, so I threw the Wii in with the package.
To date I only have 5 games (Three of which I got because of the B2G1 free sale this week) but it's definitely my favorite console to date.
In fact, this reminds me...I really need to pay more attention to my DS before I get too far behind on games for it.
Why do people use the jackets for the remote? Don't they block battery access and feel odd when there's a raised surface next to the remote's plastic? They look stupid too, in my opinion. I mean, all year it was - "Ugh, look at those jackets they're selling! Awful! Why would anyone want them?" Then... "Nintendo's giving away these awesome remote jackets! Hell yeah!"
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Whenever I see one, I think of those kids you see at the mall that are tethered to their parents by a leash, or that old SNL skit where Mike Myers is tethered to the jungle jim.
But the new screen warning to use them seen at the beginning of Super Mario Galaxy is very comical.
I also love how you bring up Excitetruck as a game that wouldn't cut it on another system when it is basically a more fun version of Motorstorm, a PS3 "Must Have" game.
Minus good multiplayer and online play
Can't we just assume this by now? Seriously....
Can't argue with the online aspect, but Excitetruck>>>>>>>>>>>Motorstorm in multiplayer. Mainly because one game is fun, while the other game is Motorstorm.
I also love how you bring up Excitetruck as a game that wouldn't cut it on another system when it is basically a more fun version of Motorstorm, a PS3 "Must Have" game.
Minus good multiplayer and online play
Can't we just assume this by now? Seriously....
Excitetruck does have decent 2p multiplayer. as for online, i will chalk that up to the fact that that is one of Nintendo's obvious weaknesses. they're an unabashedly focused gaming company compared to zaibatsu Sony (who have their hands in everything) and OS-monopolizing Microsoft (who pretty much exert a huge influence on the Internet). it's not an excuse, but i can understand why Nintendo would be hesitant to throw resources at online play when they are going up against literal behemoths in the online gaming field.
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edited November 2007
how often are people changing their batteries? I keep seeing this complaint that it blocks the battery thing. I changed my batteries yesterday and it added about 30 seconds to the whole procedure. even if you are changing once a week, 30 seconds added per week isn't all that much. plus, it's free protection so obviously at least worth trying out since they are giving them to you.
I also love how you bring up Excitetruck as a game that wouldn't cut it on another system when it is basically a more fun version of Motorstorm, a PS3 "Must Have" game.
Minus good multiplayer and online play
Can't we just assume this by now? Seriously....
Excitetruck does have decent 2p multiplayer. as for online, i will chalk that up to the fact that that is one of Nintendo's obvious weaknesses. they're an unabashedly focused gaming company compared to zaibatsu Sony (who have their hands in everything) and OS-monopolizing Microsoft (who pretty much exert a huge influence on the Internet). it's not an excuse, but i can understand why Nintendo would be hesitant to throw resources at online play when they are going up against literal behemoths in the online gaming field.
Oh, I said that because people squeezing that comment into every game for the Wii is getting slightly tiring. Nobody says it about Galaxy though.
First time I saw the Wii, my thought was a diverse list of games directed at different genre and demographics.
After a year, the Wii finally puts out a lot of games that I was looking for when I bought the system at launch.
The highlights of the list includes: RE4 Wii, MP3, Zack & Wiki, Mario Galaxy, Trauma Center, and MOHH2.
After seeing the performance of MP3 and MOHH2, I'm confident the Wii will be the second best FPS console after PC KB+M. I'm one of those people who hate dual analog controls with a passion for FPS.
It also helps that Wii also has next gen budget games at real budget prices (not that condescending $40 price for a budget game) at $20-30.
Wii games are also usually about $10 cheaper than the next gen counterparts which helps in buying them.
Complaints?
The lack of voice chat and inability to use USB hardrives and flash drives really drive me nuts.
While Ninty is much more open to working with 3rd party developers now, they still need more work since they're so close minded about updating their system to match technology from 3-4 years ago.
I also love how you bring up Excitetruck as a game that wouldn't cut it on another system when it is basically a more fun version of Motorstorm, a PS3 "Must Have" game.
Minus good multiplayer and online play
Can't we just assume this by now? Seriously....
Excitetruck does have decent 2p multiplayer. as for online, i will chalk that up to the fact that that is one of Nintendo's obvious weaknesses. they're an unabashedly focused gaming company compared to zaibatsu Sony (who have their hands in everything) and OS-monopolizing Microsoft (who pretty much exert a huge influence on the Internet). it's not an excuse, but i can understand why Nintendo would be hesitant to throw resources at online play when they are going up against literal behemoths in the online gaming field.
Oh, I said that because people squeezing that comment into every game for the Wii is getting slightly tiring. Nobody says it about Galaxy though.
I wish to god someone could control my Luma over the intertrons.
Also, where the fuck are my achievements? All I see is some number that slowly approaches 120. WTF?
I also love how you bring up Excitetruck as a game that wouldn't cut it on another system when it is basically a more fun version of Motorstorm, a PS3 "Must Have" game.
Minus good multiplayer and online play
Can't we just assume this by now? Seriously....
Excitetruck does have decent 2p multiplayer. as for online, i will chalk that up to the fact that that is one of Nintendo's obvious weaknesses. they're an unabashedly focused gaming company compared to zaibatsu Sony (who have their hands in everything) and OS-monopolizing Microsoft (who pretty much exert a huge influence on the Internet). it's not an excuse, but i can understand why Nintendo would be hesitant to throw resources at online play when they are going up against literal behemoths in the online gaming field.
Oh, I said that because people squeezing that comment into every game for the Wii is getting slightly tiring. Nobody says it about Galaxy though.
Isn't it just 1v1 in multiplayer, with no AI's? That isn't really decent. I mean, I thought most Wii fans thought it was shovelware? Galaxy isn't really of the genre to lend itself to a multiplayer experience...
re: other post:
"There aren't any games that interest me." - I'm a born-and-bred FPS gamer.
It is true though, there aren't many games on the Wii that interest me. I buy 5-6 sports games a year, I love sim racing, I love FPS's. I don't trust the wiimote to give me the kind of accuracy / options I want for sports and FPS games, (and there aren't many). This is why I would say Wii isn't really for me.
I went outside of my normal interests to try PH, and it is ok. Not something that really has been causing me to pickup the DS to play (unlike Tetris, MK, etc). but it is ok. I could see myself doing the same thing with SMG if I owned a Wii.
Excite Truck penalizes the losing player for the ammount of time it takes them to reach the finish line after the winning player does. This might make sense when you've got some one who is highly familiar with the game playing it, who could just waste time showboating, and racking up extra points, but for some one who is picking up the game for the first time, it is AWFUL! It is like "not only do you lose, but you get an even worse score because you lost so bad."
It rewards the person who is winning, doesn't it give them the stars and not take away from the losing player? If there wasn't this reward the player who was in last could just dick around the finish line racking up drifts and tree runs until their score was highest.
ii think Nintendo pulled off what they were trying to do. i don't think the Wii will pull in very "hardcore" gamers, but i'm not even sure what that term means anymore.
Hardcore means people who play Quake duel. Otherwise, you are just a casual fuck who doesn't know shit about games.
Anyway, I have 15 Wii games including wii sports. There have been a bunch of games I just got (battalion wars, fire emblem, mario) in the past few weeks and more that I went to get in the next few. The Wii is a perfect compliment to my PC gaming. Now granted I haven't played that much local multiplayer compared to cube (mainly because of no smash bros yet and people being so busy with college stuff), but strikers and battalion online were real fun and the single player games I have, have given me lots of entertainment.
I haven't bought one yet, and I don't really ever plan on it. I've never followed any of the big Nintendo series (Metroid, Zelda, etc.), so there aren't many games that interest me. I have a 360, and that pretty much satisfies my console gaming needs.
I considered buying one last year, but I didn't feel like fighting through crowds of angry mothers and die hard Nintendo fans. Personally, I think the system is very clever and innovative, but just not for me. Everything I've played has been fun, but I got tired of the control scheme and lack of tactile feedback, if that makes any sense.
It seems to being doing all the right things and it definitely is a great console, but alot of the features seem gimmicky to me, which leaves me trying to figure out if it is a toy or a serious console.
I think the real problem is I need to learn to appreciate things other than shooters on the 360
i really like my wii. there was a dry spell for awhile but it didn't bother me too much, especially since all of the consoles seemed to be going through the same thing during the summer. there are still games that I'd like to buy but can't afford to. I also don't have nearly as much as I'd like to play the sucker. this is the first console that I've had since day one...I never realized how expensive gaming really was. I'm used to buying games for around $20 each. Now that I'm buying them new and on launch day, $50 is like a knee to the ribs.
I got my Wii as a gift - I've never owned a console this early in the cycle before, and I'm remembering why I hadn't planned on buying a Wii or a while yet. There are lots of games out for the Wii that I'd like to play. But I don't have the time, and I'm not willing to pay $50 each time a game is released I'd like to play but won't actually touch for six months.
So now I just keep a list of games to buy 'eventually', play a couple hours a week, and get on with my life. I'll probably be playing Wii games for a solid decade at the rate I get through them even without a second console.
I understand what you mean Scarab (as someone who traditionally avoides new consoles like the plague), but at the same time if you were going to be an early adopter the Wii was a good bet for one simple reason: it's been so popular that there's no price drop in sight. Even had you waited, it would have saved you not one cent. Even if pickings were slim, the total of $0 extra you paid to have whatever enjoyment you got out of it a year earlier should be money well spent in this case.
actually, i'm starting to suspect the newer Wii systems were manufactured at lower-quality factories, while the first waves were done at better plants. considering Nintendo's rushed push to find manufacturing facilities and third-party contractors, i wouldn't be surprised if the later systems are of lower quality. you may be better off with your early release system...
As a person who generally enjoys Nintendo software, I am extremely happy with the Wii. This first year has been exceptionally good to me. As a person who bought into all the hyperbole of the motion controls, I am extremely disappointed with the developers of the Wii, including Nintendo.
I own Wii Sports, Zelda:TP, Paper Mario, Metroid, Zack 'n Wiki, Fire Emblem and Mario Galaxy. I have rented more. If given the choice, I would have rather had all them save Wii Sports with a standard controller with graphics akin the PS3/360.
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edited November 2007
Every day I go into work and see no Wiis on the shelf, I feel more and more secure in my decision to sit outside Walmart on a cold and windy November night in Wisconsin for 21 hours and wreck my legs for two days afterward. (Despite the fact that I joined the line at noon and the Wiis would not be all accounted for until 10 PM. And a 6 AM launch.)
My current stash is four Wii games (Sports, Smooth Moves, Rayman Raving Rabbids, Excite Truck), Paper Mario: TTYD, nine Gamecube holdovers I decided not to get rid of in the transition (TTYD was bought well afterwards), and six VC games (World Heroes, Yoshi, Kirby's Dream Course, Paper Mario 1, Super C and Kirby's Adventure). I just returned a rental of MLB Power Pros, which was pretty good (I can't decide if the announcer is annoying or hilarious).
EDIT: No, wait, it would have to have been 9 AM. I remember the hours and launch time, why did I not just extrapolate that out?
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I have a new soccer blog The Minnow Tank. Reading it psychically kicks Sepp Blatter in the bean bag.
I picked up a Wii at launch as well, and for the most part have not played it much. When I look at why, it mostly comes down to lack of difficulty in a lot of the recent releases. I prefer games at actually challenge me, be it mind (puzzle quest...kinda), reflex (trauma center), or memorization (contra 4), and when I look at the list of recent releases, there just hasn't been much to really satisfy me.
Activision's botching of GH3-Wii, and rock band's delay on said platform have also prevented me from making more use of the system than I otherwise would have. It doesn't make it a bad system or anything, but it is true that there are less offerings for certain playstyles than there are for casual ones.
I'm angry right now because of the Ghostbusters junk on the Wii. I know the wii is better than X-box hardware, but no game seems to even reach that graphical level. In Ghostbusters, they aren't even going to try.
I know that Nintendo has expanded their market and that's awesome. But they don't need to make every game for the mini-game players who hate working for their victories.
My reaction: Wii is great and fantastic (with a few exceptions) but Developers need to give it a fair treatment so I don't feel so slighted.
I got mine at launch and couldn't be happier. Rayman Raving Rabbids was the height of a night of a drinking with friends if only for the one minigame where you have to find the off-key singing bunny in the chorus and then slap him in the face. I just recently picked up Galaxy (around 103 stars I think), BWii, Fire Emblem, Alien Syndrome, Ghost Squad, and 2 Wii Zappers. I was going to pick up RE:UC too, but for $50 I'm not. I still want to get LEGO Star Wars the Complete Saga and Rayman 2 as well.
This has been the perfect console for me. Anything the Wii doesn't provide my PC does.
You know, there's one thing I can't help but really wish the Wii had properly.
LAN play. Preferably in a 'direct connection to the other Wiis in range' style. You've got a console with built-in wireless more than fast enough for online play, that's pretty much PERFECT for stuff like lan parties. No networking to figure out, you just hook 'em all up and go. But none of the games I've played, even those with online multiplayer(admittedly just BWii so far) have it. Am I just missing its obvious presence?
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To date I only have 5 games (Three of which I got because of the B2G1 free sale this week) but it's definitely my favorite console to date.
In fact, this reminds me...I really need to pay more attention to my DS before I get too far behind on games for it.
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Minus good multiplayer and online play
This was very true for me as well. I really didn't even play that many games last gen, and most of them seemed like a nicely polished version of the same thing. If it wasn't for Nintendo I probably would have quit playing games last gen. Only the DS and the Wii have kept me interested in games.
"It's not aimed toward me." - My friends would make fun of me because they all have 360s and PS3s.
"There aren't any games that interest me." - I'm a born-and-bred FPS gamer.
"It seems like a gimmick to me." - I hope it fails.
"The only good titles are Nintendo-made titles." - Too much "teh kiddy", I want realism.
That last one really gets me. I have no idea why Nintendo brand games being fucking AWESOME is considered a bad thing. It's the fault of the third-party developers for not stepping up and doing what it takes to make a game sell well.
I know I probably pissed a lot of people off with this post, but from my personal experience, it is just a problem with people being too stubborn or brainwashed to think that games with colors are only for kids, and that Madden is God.
Halo 3 is a great game. GREAT. I own it, and play it regularly, and I have a blast playing with my friends. But the funny thing is, all of the awesome/inventive features in Halo have almost nothing to do with the gameplay, but rather the online experience or media-based content and features. It's an FPS with a bunch of bells and whistles that one can use in between actual games, and when preparing to play the game.
Nintendo is trying to change the way you play games throughout the entire experience. For the best current example, see Phantom Hourglass. I tend to think that people who can't see or realize this are much less educated about games in general than most of us here on PA, and can say NOTHING about the "casual" gamers picking up the Wii.
i like your photo there btw, maximumzero
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Why do people use the jackets for the remote? Don't they block battery access and feel odd when there's a raised surface next to the remote's plastic? They look stupid too, in my opinion. I mean, all year it was - "Ugh, look at those jackets they're selling! Awful! Why would anyone want them?" Then... "Nintendo's giving away these awesome remote jackets! Hell yeah!"
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They were free.
Can't we just assume this by now? Seriously....
Whenever I see one, I think of those kids you see at the mall that are tethered to their parents by a leash, or that old SNL skit where Mike Myers is tethered to the jungle jim.
But the new screen warning to use them seen at the beginning of Super Mario Galaxy is very comical.
Can't argue with the online aspect, but Excitetruck>>>>>>>>>>>Motorstorm in multiplayer. Mainly because one game is fun, while the other game is Motorstorm.
Excitetruck does have decent 2p multiplayer. as for online, i will chalk that up to the fact that that is one of Nintendo's obvious weaknesses. they're an unabashedly focused gaming company compared to zaibatsu Sony (who have their hands in everything) and OS-monopolizing Microsoft (who pretty much exert a huge influence on the Internet). it's not an excuse, but i can understand why Nintendo would be hesitant to throw resources at online play when they are going up against literal behemoths in the online gaming field.
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Oh, I said that because people squeezing that comment into every game for the Wii is getting slightly tiring. Nobody says it about Galaxy though.
After a year, the Wii finally puts out a lot of games that I was looking for when I bought the system at launch.
The highlights of the list includes: RE4 Wii, MP3, Zack & Wiki, Mario Galaxy, Trauma Center, and MOHH2.
After seeing the performance of MP3 and MOHH2, I'm confident the Wii will be the second best FPS console after PC KB+M. I'm one of those people who hate dual analog controls with a passion for FPS.
It also helps that Wii also has next gen budget games at real budget prices (not that condescending $40 price for a budget game) at $20-30.
Wii games are also usually about $10 cheaper than the next gen counterparts which helps in buying them.
Complaints?
The lack of voice chat and inability to use USB hardrives and flash drives really drive me nuts.
While Ninty is much more open to working with 3rd party developers now, they still need more work since they're so close minded about updating their system to match technology from 3-4 years ago.
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I wish to god someone could control my Luma over the intertrons.
Also, where the fuck are my achievements? All I see is some number that slowly approaches 120. WTF?
Isn't it just 1v1 in multiplayer, with no AI's? That isn't really decent. I mean, I thought most Wii fans thought it was shovelware? Galaxy isn't really of the genre to lend itself to a multiplayer experience...
re: other post:
It is true though, there aren't many games on the Wii that interest me. I buy 5-6 sports games a year, I love sim racing, I love FPS's. I don't trust the wiimote to give me the kind of accuracy / options I want for sports and FPS games, (and there aren't many). This is why I would say Wii isn't really for me.
I went outside of my normal interests to try PH, and it is ok. Not something that really has been causing me to pickup the DS to play (unlike Tetris, MK, etc). but it is ok. I could see myself doing the same thing with SMG if I owned a Wii.
That one pacific MOH turned me off of the entire series ;-)
Me too. :P But I decided to support EA on this one, because of their online and aiming customization. And it's a blast.
You are a dirty liar!
Excite Truck penalizes the losing player for the ammount of time it takes them to reach the finish line after the winning player does. This might make sense when you've got some one who is highly familiar with the game playing it, who could just waste time showboating, and racking up extra points, but for some one who is picking up the game for the first time, it is AWFUL! It is like "not only do you lose, but you get an even worse score because you lost so bad."
Hardcore means people who play Quake duel. Otherwise, you are just a casual fuck who doesn't know shit about games.
Anyway, I have 15 Wii games including wii sports. There have been a bunch of games I just got (battalion wars, fire emblem, mario) in the past few weeks and more that I went to get in the next few. The Wii is a perfect compliment to my PC gaming. Now granted I haven't played that much local multiplayer compared to cube (mainly because of no smash bros yet and people being so busy with college stuff), but strikers and battalion online were real fun and the single player games I have, have given me lots of entertainment.
I considered buying one last year, but I didn't feel like fighting through crowds of angry mothers and die hard Nintendo fans. Personally, I think the system is very clever and innovative, but just not for me. Everything I've played has been fun, but I got tired of the control scheme and lack of tactile feedback, if that makes any sense.
It seems to being doing all the right things and it definitely is a great console, but alot of the features seem gimmicky to me, which leaves me trying to figure out if it is a toy or a serious console.
I think the real problem is I need to learn to appreciate things other than shooters on the 360
So now I just keep a list of games to buy 'eventually', play a couple hours a week, and get on with my life. I'll probably be playing Wii games for a solid decade at the rate I get through them even without a second console.
I wish I had bought my Wii now rather than a year ago.
for 9-10 months it was the Wii Sports machine.
I genuinely regret being an early adopter. Talk about a games drought.
Still, wii sports is awesome.
I meant it has pretty much sat around and done nothing for a year.
I mean there is no downside to having bought it early (heck, it probably saved me from the massive shortages)
but there is no upside either.
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I own Wii Sports, Zelda:TP, Paper Mario, Metroid, Zack 'n Wiki, Fire Emblem and Mario Galaxy. I have rented more. If given the choice, I would have rather had all them save Wii Sports with a standard controller with graphics akin the PS3/360.
My current stash is four Wii games (Sports, Smooth Moves, Rayman Raving Rabbids, Excite Truck), Paper Mario: TTYD, nine Gamecube holdovers I decided not to get rid of in the transition (TTYD was bought well afterwards), and six VC games (World Heroes, Yoshi, Kirby's Dream Course, Paper Mario 1, Super C and Kirby's Adventure). I just returned a rental of MLB Power Pros, which was pretty good (I can't decide if the announcer is annoying or hilarious).
EDIT: No, wait, it would have to have been 9 AM. I remember the hours and launch time, why did I not just extrapolate that out?
Activision's botching of GH3-Wii, and rock band's delay on said platform have also prevented me from making more use of the system than I otherwise would have. It doesn't make it a bad system or anything, but it is true that there are less offerings for certain playstyles than there are for casual ones.
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I know that Nintendo has expanded their market and that's awesome. But they don't need to make every game for the mini-game players who hate working for their victories.
My reaction: Wii is great and fantastic (with a few exceptions) but Developers need to give it a fair treatment so I don't feel so slighted.
I'm happy.
This has been the perfect console for me. Anything the Wii doesn't provide my PC does.
LAN play. Preferably in a 'direct connection to the other Wiis in range' style. You've got a console with built-in wireless more than fast enough for online play, that's pretty much PERFECT for stuff like lan parties. No networking to figure out, you just hook 'em all up and go. But none of the games I've played, even those with online multiplayer(admittedly just BWii so far) have it. Am I just missing its obvious presence?