I bought my Wii very recently after recognizing that I'm no longer the kind of gamer who can own every major system and buy 20+ games a year.
Thinking of it, I have never been this kind of gamer, having other hobbies.
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JeanHeartbroken papa bearGatineau, QuébecRegistered Userregular
edited November 2007
I love the Wii, if only for all the Mario goodness it already have to offer. Galaxy , Super Paper Mario and all the VC Mario games, and they're is Brawl and Kart coming up... aaa good times, good times. Everything else is a bonus.
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The VC is for Bomberman. It's funny, whenever we get a bunch of people together and pull out the Wii, we never load up a real Wii game.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
edited November 2007
Having had the Wii since late April, I have felt there has been something good coming out for it every month during that time or that there was existing games to fill the void of good releases. But then again the VC was always there.
The only game I've ever really regretted was Mario Strikers Charged, because the computer and people online are cheap sons of bitches. Fire Emblem is getting pretty damn close, though, with the fucking characters who can withstand being hit with a gust of wind before dying. We're on an "on again/off again" thing
The only problem right now is there being too many good games. I don't think I'm going to be playing the good games on the 360 like Mass Effect until January.
Hell, If Smash Bros. came out this December I don't know what the hell I would do.
1) Warioware was too easy. Fun as hell, but too easy. Beat it in a weekend, and never played it again. Still need to get Mario Party.
WarioWare has never been about beating it. I was playing Smooth Moves for months because of the high score wiki we had here and multiplayer with friends.
Totally. I think every WarioWare game can be "beat" in a couple of days. That's like saying you beat Tetris after playing it for a couple of hours. That's not really the point.
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And I love the Virtual Console, since I finally have a chance to catch up on a lot of what I missed when I was younger. Thanks to the VC, if nothing had come out for the Wii, I'm not sure how down I'd be about it.
To be honest, I never really understood the love affair with Wii's VC. I like the idea. I like the things its structure could bring about, such as WiiWare. I'm just not sure I agree with the whole pricing scheme as much.
I mean, we're paying $10 god damn dollars for an N64 game? Am I the only one who feels that this is too much? These games are selling 0 copies now anyway, and it's digital delivery. Come on!
In Canada, not only do we pay extra for tax on our points (14% in Ontario), but retailers are jacking up the price of a points card by 25%. We're paying $24.99, when the Canadian dollar is worth more than the American.
In the end, I often find that the games I remember so fondly aren't half as fun to play as they were when I was 12.
See, that doesn't sound like too much to me at all. A new, modern game, costs 50 dollars.
For that cost, I can have five games that are a maximum of 10 years old.
Now, my sense of time and graphical standards are both warped and distorted beyond belief, but that sounds like a pretty decent deal to me. Plus, for most of the good stuff, I'd pay that much at a used game store that still had them anyways. Fuck, I paid close to 20 dollars for my Megaman X cart, and if it ends up on the VC, it'll be about 8.
Buying the actual cart, you are getting an old game that has some actual value to the item. Buying the VC equivelant is a digital delivery, so I do not equate any comparison between the two as valid.
In 30 years my copy of Zelda on NES might be worth something.. the blocks of data on my Wii won't.
Edit: I guess I see it this way: In 20 years how much would you expect to pay for, say, Half-Life 2 on digital delivery?
I bought my Wii on black friday and I haven't played it nearly as much as I hoped to. I bought TP at launch and over the course of 3 months bought trauma center, raving rabbids and warioware. I played warioware the day it came out with a couple of buddies, beat it in that same day, and then didn't touch my Wii until Zach and Wiki came out. 10 months I believe. Nothing in that span of time interested me, VC or otherwise. I didn't have money for MP3 at it's launch. I did buy Zach and Wiki (and loved it) when it came out. That was the game to make me literally dust my Wii off. I traded in rabbids and warioware to buy it because I figured it will be harder to find in the coming months. I also bought Manhunt 2 (played a couple of hours of it, seems alright) for the same reason as Z&W but with a Hot Coffee-esque recall fear. I bought Galaxy last week and it has been pretty fun so far.
I really wish I had more interest in the system. I doubt I'd buy a multi-platform game for the Wii unless it offered something truly different from the others. A little waggle here and there isn't enough to sell me on a game. Other than Brawl, and the soon-to-be-bought MP3 I don't think there is anything on my Wii horizon for a long time
In 30 years my copy of Zelda on NES might be worth something.. the blocks of data on my Wii won't.
I used to have that mindset. To be honest, how much is an Atari 2600 game worth nowadays? Unless it's boxed and sealed, somewhere in the vicinity of $1. That's anywhere you look - garage sale, specialty mom-and-pop store, eBay... old games, especially very common ones like Zelda, aren't worth squat and probably aren't going to be any time in the forseeable future.
In 30 years my copy of Zelda on NES might be worth something.. the blocks of data on my Wii won't.
I used to have that mindset. To be honest, how much is an Atari 2600 game worth nowadays? Unless it's boxed and sealed, somewhere in the vicinity of $1. That's anywhere you look - garage sale, specialty mom-and-pop store, eBay... old games, especially very common ones like Zelda, aren't worth squat and probably aren't going to be any time in the forseeable future.
Granted, I'm just saying with the actual cartridge purchase you've got yourself the original game in cartridge form. It was once manufactured and purchased by someone at full price... handed down however many times until you.
With digital delivery, they are just "creating" a copy of the game. They could create 1 copy, or 1 million copies and the effective cost would be the exact same.
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edited November 2007
Initial Impression (Assuming controller was the point we knew anything concrete about the system): I thought it was interesting, but I wasn't convinced it was going to be anything amazing from a game control standpoint. I had many conversations with my gamer friends about weather or not it would be a good thing. They mostly said "I'm just glad to see someone doing something different." My worry was that different was not always better.
Impressions after first playing a Wii: Wii sports is a well executed motion controlled game. Many fun times were had in this initial play period.
Impresssions after purchasing a Wii: Zelda sure is fun, but boy is my arm tired. (Interestingly enough, the period when I finally got a wii had the the super-enthusiastic people I know spending all their time playing WoW)
Impressions today: All in all, the Wii is defined by the Wiimote, and while certain specific functions (emulating a tennis racket, aiming in shooting games, etc) are carried out better, the controller doesn't seem to bring anything to the table that I would say is "better" overall to more traditional controllers. I find it interesting that many times in reviews games are praised for not making too much use of the various motion controls, which seems like the innovation of the console is actually a hindrance to game design. But I digress. I think, all things considered, is you could be perfectly content with the Wii as your only console in this generation, but I wouldn't say that it is superior to the other two offerings, especially since the price gap is rapidly closing.
Note: While writing this, I booted up the Wii to see when I last played it, and it appears to have been 4 months between sessions.
I find it interesting that many times in reviews games are praised for not making too much use of the various motion controls
Really? Most reviews I've read always seem to knock for not using them (that's the whole point of the system right?) or knock them for the motion controls feeling "tacked on."
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I find it interesting that many times in reviews games are praised for not making too much use of the various motion controls
Really? Most reviews I've read always seem to knock for not using them (that's the whole point of the system right?) or knock them for the motion controls feeling "tacked on."
It's usually one or the other. Some games which are light on Wii-specific controls are thanked for avoiding "tacking on" extra gestures and such to make it... wiier.
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Ugh, looks like I'm adding to my list of 'post these in every wii thread' remarks:
1) More people need to play ExciteTruck.
2) You haven't 'beaten' WarioWare.
In regard to 2: You can in the sense that there isn't anything left to achieve in the game (such as unlocking new levels or modes). After that it's just a game to break out when you have company over or when you feel like getting your micro-game on.
Ugh, looks like I'm adding to my list of 'post these in every wii thread' remarks:
1) More people need to play ExciteTruck.
2) You haven't 'beaten' WarioWare.
In regard to 2: You can in the sense that there isn't anything left to achieve in the game (such as unlocking new levels or modes). After that it's just a game to break out when you have company over or when you feel like getting your micro-game on.
PROTIP: You don't beat Galaga either. Or Tetris. You play them because they're fun. Do you know how to have fun anymore? Fun is something that you don't feel FORCED to do.
Sorry bro. I guess I don't know how to have fun anymore, huh? After I did all of the micro-games it became boring. They were kind of 1-shot deals to me. After doing it one time they did become forced.
And I rented Excitetruck and thought it was average at best
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DVGNo. 1 Honor StudentNether Institute, Evil AcademyRegistered Userregular
Ugh, looks like I'm adding to my list of 'post these in every wii thread' remarks:
1) More people need to play ExciteTruck.
2) You haven't 'beaten' WarioWare.
In regard to 2: You can in the sense that there isn't anything left to achieve in the game (such as unlocking new levels or modes). After that it's just a game to break out when you have company over or when you feel like getting your micro-game on.
PROTIP: You don't beat Galaga either. Or Tetris. You play them because they're fun. Do you know how to have fun anymore? Fun is something that you don't feel FORCED to do.
That was awfully condescending, but I'll let that go. Just because a game has a never-ending stream of randomly generated content doesn't mean you can't finish the game, in the sense that continuing to play will not gain you anything except happy fun times for the duration of playing it. When you start wario ware you have access to one stage and no multiplayer. After you beat all the stages once, you have access to multiplayer and a bunch of other specialty games. The point where you play only for amusement the game can be considered "finished". I'm not trying to imply that the game is no longer fun to play, just that you are out of things to accomplish.
Ugh, looks like I'm adding to my list of 'post these in every wii thread' remarks:
1) More people need to play ExciteTruck.
2) You haven't 'beaten' WarioWare.
In regard to 2: You can in the sense that there isn't anything left to achieve in the game (such as unlocking new levels or modes). After that it's just a game to break out when you have company over or when you feel like getting your micro-game on.
PROTIP: You don't beat Galaga either. Or Tetris. You play them because they're fun. Do you know how to have fun anymore? Fun is something that you don't feel FORCED to do.
That was awfully condescending, but I'll let that go. Just because a game has a never-ending stream of randomly generated content doesn't mean you can't finish the game, in the sense that continuing to play will not gain you anything except happy fun times for the duration of playing it. When you start wario ware you have access to one stage and no multiplayer. After you beat all the stages once, you have access to multiplayer and a bunch of other specialty games. The point where you play only for amusement the game can be considered "finished". I'm not trying to imply that the game is no longer fun to play, just that you are out of things to accomplish.
Exactly. I just didn't feel that there was anything more to accomplish. Especially in this day and age where we get games jammed down our gullets at such a rapid rate. We have jobs, families, and other interests. I can't say that I can rationalize continuing to play a game that I have gone all the way through anymore. I don't know. Maybe I'm just getting too old for this shit.
Except for "A Link To The Past". I've played through that at least 4 or 5 times.
I have had a Wii since launch, and I can't say that I am super impressed with it.
The waggle controls are simply nowhere near as revolutionary as people seem to claim, and in some of the games I have played they simply seem like an annoying and less responsive way of inputing commands (relative to a control pad). I can't even see what the fuss is about when it comes to FPS' controls. It's not a substitute for a mouse, and I am more comfortable with the two stick console controller setup.
To be honest I think the Wii's success in targeting 'casuals' is really mainly down to marketing and creating some very shallow and simple games. From a business perspective they have obviously done very well, but the direction they have taken is not one I personally am interested in.
I can't even see what the fuss is about when it comes to FPS' controls. It's not a substitute for a mouse, and I am more comfortable with the two stick console controller setup.
I don't really care for your bias against the Wii in general, but if you've never played MP3 or MOHH2 - then you have no right at all to speak about anything regarding FPS control for the Wii
And please, please oh lordy, don't ever say you prefer dual analog over kb+m for FPS controls.
That line just makes every opinion you have about FPS useless.
I can't even see what the fuss is about when it comes to FPS' controls. It's not a substitute for a mouse, and I am more comfortable with the two stick console controller setup.
I don't really care for your bias against the Wii in general, but if you've never played MP3 or MOHH2 - then you have no right at all to speak about anything regarding FPS control for the Wii
And please, please oh lordy, don't ever say you prefer dual analog over kb+m for FPS controls.
That line just makes every opinion you have about FPS useless.
Bullshit. I prefer dual-analogue, and I've been playing FPSes since before we even had the term. My opinion is far from useless.
Ugh, looks like I'm adding to my list of 'post these in every wii thread' remarks:
1) More people need to play ExciteTruck.
2) You haven't 'beaten' WarioWare.
In regard to 2: You can in the sense that there isn't anything left to achieve in the game (such as unlocking new levels or modes). After that it's just a game to break out when you have company over or when you feel like getting your micro-game on.
PROTIP: You don't beat Galaga either. Or Tetris. You play them because they're fun. Do you know how to have fun anymore? Fun is something that you don't feel FORCED to do.
That was awfully condescending, but I'll let that go. Just because a game has a never-ending stream of randomly generated content doesn't mean you can't finish the game, in the sense that continuing to play will not gain you anything except happy fun times for the duration of playing it. When you start wario ware you have access to one stage and no multiplayer. After you beat all the stages once, you have access to multiplayer and a bunch of other specialty games. The point where you play only for amusement the game can be considered "finished". I'm not trying to imply that the game is no longer fun to play, just that you are out of things to accomplish.
Exactly. I just didn't feel that there was anything more to accomplish. Especially in this day and age where we get games jammed down our gullets at such a rapid rate. We have jobs, families, and other interests. I can't say that I can rationalize continuing to play a game that I have gone all the way through anymore. I don't know. Maybe I'm just getting too old for this shit.
Except for everyone else IS pretty much saying that. Apparently the mode of thought now is that just having 'fun' is no longer a good enough reason to play a game. I'm not saying that people necessarily HAVE to play games that no longer have things to unlock or whatever, but that shouldn't be the reason you discount something that's fun. If you don't like the game, then that's different - don't play it. But don't have the mode of thought that gaming is a job, and you have to accomplish everything you can, in lieu of actually enjoying yourself.
I can't even see what the fuss is about when it comes to FPS' controls. It's not a substitute for a mouse, and I am more comfortable with the two stick console controller setup.
I don't really care for your bias against the Wii in general, but if you've never played MP3 or MOHH2 - then you have no right at all to speak about anything regarding FPS control for the Wii
And please, please oh lordy, don't ever say you prefer dual analog over kb+m for FPS controls.
That line just makes every opinion you have about FPS useless.
Bullshit. I prefer dual-analogue, and I've been playing FPSes since before we even had the term. My opinion is far from useless.
I agree. While I don't think two sticks are necessarily better (Or even all that equal) compared to the wiimote + Nunchuk, I can certainly see someone wanting a regular controller option. It's a perfectly valid complaint to have.
Personally, I do prefer the old-style of FPS controls. I have nothing at all against the Wiimote; It's an awesome controller. But using my left and right hand for different things that both require significant accuracy makes it very awkward. I can guarantee a certain level of accuracy with my thumbs, but having my hands out in the open just feels weird and uncomfortable.
I much prefer having the directional control in my better hand (I'm left handed, so I naturally want to have my left hand doing that) yet the Wiimote is designed to be in your main hand, what with all of the movements and gestures and aiming that you do with it, so I must maneuver with my off hand, which is extremely uncomfortable and took me quite a bit of getting used to. I spent much of the beginning of twilight princess swapping the nunchuk into my left hand because I simply wasn't good at all with using the joystick at my right side.
I knew it wouldn't work to play the entire game that way so I just forced myself to bear with it, and I eventually got used to it. But I really shouldn't have to MAKE myself get used to a game like that. I don't like how the beginning of Twilight Princess (On the Wii) was so very awkward and irritating at the beginning due to that little learning period I was forced to undergo. Mario Galaxy was equally cumbersome when I tried it for the first time.
The Wiimote and Nunchuk just isn't a very platformer-friendly control scheme to me. >_>
yeah....well, I don't naturally like using either of them in my right hand, for anything that requires much accuracy. It's an awkward setup either way. I much preferred the GC setup where movement and aiming usually rested on the left stick so I used my left hand for all of that. Those days are gone now.
And I can prefer what ever the fuck I like thanks very much.
Normally I hate when people say "your opinion sucks.", but after hearing you say that you didn't like the controls for MP3, I'm sorry to say: "your opinion blows."
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And I can prefer what ever the fuck I like thanks very much.
Normally I hate when people say "your opinion sucks.", but after hearing you say that you didn't like the controls for MP3, I'm sorry to say: "your opnion blows."
I can't even see what the fuss is about when it comes to FPS' controls. It's not a substitute for a mouse, and I am more comfortable with the two stick console controller setup.
I don't really care for your bias against the Wii in general, but if you've never played MP3 or MOHH2 - then you have no right at all to speak about anything regarding FPS control for the Wii
And please, please oh lordy, don't ever say you prefer dual analog over kb+m for FPS controls.
That line just makes every opinion you have about FPS useless.
Bullshit. I prefer dual-analogue, and I've been playing FPSes since before we even had the term. My opinion is far from useless.
I agree. These FPS these days have too any buttons and it just doesn't feel comfortable on PCs anymore because of this. Some of the more simple ones are fine though like UT and such
I can't even see what the fuss is about when it comes to FPS' controls. It's not a substitute for a mouse, and I am more comfortable with the two stick console controller setup.
I don't really care for your bias against the Wii in general, but if you've never played MP3 or MOHH2 - then you have no right at all to speak about anything regarding FPS control for the Wii
And please, please oh lordy, don't ever say you prefer dual analog over kb+m for FPS controls.
That line just makes every opinion you have about FPS useless.
Bullshit. I prefer dual-analogue, and I've been playing FPSes since before we even had the term. My opinion is far from useless.
I agree. These FPS these days have too any buttons and it just doesn't feel comfortable on PCs anymore because of this. Some of the more simple ones are fine though like UT and such
Too many buttons? What the heck does that even mean?
I can't even see what the fuss is about when it comes to FPS' controls. It's not a substitute for a mouse, and I am more comfortable with the two stick console controller setup.
I don't really care for your bias against the Wii in general, but if you've never played MP3 or MOHH2 - then you have no right at all to speak about anything regarding FPS control for the Wii
And please, please oh lordy, don't ever say you prefer dual analog over kb+m for FPS controls.
That line just makes every opinion you have about FPS useless.
Bullshit. I prefer dual-analogue, and I've been playing FPSes since before we even had the term. My opinion is far from useless.
I agree. These FPS these days have too any buttons and it just doesn't feel comfortable on PCs anymore because of this. Some of the more simple ones are fine though like UT and such
Too many buttons? What the heck does that even mean?
what does "too many buttons" mean or are you just being a jackass because you know it's an obvious typo?
I can't even see what the fuss is about when it comes to FPS' controls. It's not a substitute for a mouse, and I am more comfortable with the two stick console controller setup.
I don't really care for your bias against the Wii in general, but if you've never played MP3 or MOHH2 - then you have no right at all to speak about anything regarding FPS control for the Wii
And please, please oh lordy, don't ever say you prefer dual analog over kb+m for FPS controls.
That line just makes every opinion you have about FPS useless.
Bullshit. I prefer dual-analogue, and I've been playing FPSes since before we even had the term. My opinion is far from useless.
I agree. These FPS these days have too any buttons and it just doesn't feel comfortable on PCs anymore because of this. Some of the more simple ones are fine though like UT and such
Too many buttons? What the heck does that even mean?
what does "too many buttons" mean or are you just being a jackass because you know it's an obvious typo?
No, I'm honestly curious what the hell your talking about?
Also, the proper way to mock a typo like that is to ask "What the hell does 'too any buttons' means?" or to run with it and be all "Yeah, all games have too any buttons these days! Fucking Devs". Just FYI.
And I can prefer what ever the fuck I like thanks very much.
Normally I hate when people say "your opinion sucks.", but after hearing you say that you didn't like the controls for MP3, I'm sorry to say: "your opnion blows."
Says the guy who apparently likes Sense Fail.
I kid.
It's Senses Fail. And I do... I've also killed for less, sir.
I can't even see what the fuss is about when it comes to FPS' controls. It's not a substitute for a mouse, and I am more comfortable with the two stick console controller setup.
I don't really care for your bias against the Wii in general, but if you've never played MP3 or MOHH2 - then you have no right at all to speak about anything regarding FPS control for the Wii
And please, please oh lordy, don't ever say you prefer dual analog over kb+m for FPS controls.
That line just makes every opinion you have about FPS useless.
Bullshit. I prefer dual-analogue, and I've been playing FPSes since before we even had the term. My opinion is far from useless.
I agree. These FPS these days have too any buttons and it just doesn't feel comfortable on PCs anymore because of this. Some of the more simple ones are fine though like UT and such
Too many buttons? What the heck does that even mean?
what does "too many buttons" mean or are you just being a jackass because you know it's an obvious typo?
No, I'm honestly curious what the hell your talking about?
Also, the proper way to mock a typo like that is to ask "What the hell does 'too any buttons' means?" or to run with it and be all "Yeah, all games have too any buttons these days! Fucking Devs". Just FYI.
the proper way huh...
too many buttons means exactly what th hell it means. I know you aren't retarded.
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The only game I've ever really regretted was Mario Strikers Charged, because the computer and people online are cheap sons of bitches. Fire Emblem is getting pretty damn close, though, with the fucking characters who can withstand being hit with a gust of wind before dying. We're on an "on again/off again" thing
The only problem right now is there being too many good games. I don't think I'm going to be playing the good games on the 360 like Mass Effect until January.
Hell, If Smash Bros. came out this December I don't know what the hell I would do.
Totally. I think every WarioWare game can be "beat" in a couple of days. That's like saying you beat Tetris after playing it for a couple of hours. That's not really the point.
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Buying the actual cart, you are getting an old game that has some actual value to the item. Buying the VC equivelant is a digital delivery, so I do not equate any comparison between the two as valid.
In 30 years my copy of Zelda on NES might be worth something.. the blocks of data on my Wii won't.
Edit: I guess I see it this way: In 20 years how much would you expect to pay for, say, Half-Life 2 on digital delivery?
I really wish I had more interest in the system. I doubt I'd buy a multi-platform game for the Wii unless it offered something truly different from the others. A little waggle here and there isn't enough to sell me on a game. Other than Brawl, and the soon-to-be-bought MP3 I don't think there is anything on my Wii horizon for a long time
Seconded all the way. I can't wait for them to release the SNES Bombermans. SO HARD.
I used to have that mindset. To be honest, how much is an Atari 2600 game worth nowadays? Unless it's boxed and sealed, somewhere in the vicinity of $1. That's anywhere you look - garage sale, specialty mom-and-pop store, eBay... old games, especially very common ones like Zelda, aren't worth squat and probably aren't going to be any time in the forseeable future.
Granted, I'm just saying with the actual cartridge purchase you've got yourself the original game in cartridge form. It was once manufactured and purchased by someone at full price... handed down however many times until you.
With digital delivery, they are just "creating" a copy of the game. They could create 1 copy, or 1 million copies and the effective cost would be the exact same.
Impressions after first playing a Wii: Wii sports is a well executed motion controlled game. Many fun times were had in this initial play period.
Impresssions after purchasing a Wii: Zelda sure is fun, but boy is my arm tired. (Interestingly enough, the period when I finally got a wii had the the super-enthusiastic people I know spending all their time playing WoW)
Impressions today: All in all, the Wii is defined by the Wiimote, and while certain specific functions (emulating a tennis racket, aiming in shooting games, etc) are carried out better, the controller doesn't seem to bring anything to the table that I would say is "better" overall to more traditional controllers. I find it interesting that many times in reviews games are praised for not making too much use of the various motion controls, which seems like the innovation of the console is actually a hindrance to game design. But I digress. I think, all things considered, is you could be perfectly content with the Wii as your only console in this generation, but I wouldn't say that it is superior to the other two offerings, especially since the price gap is rapidly closing.
Note: While writing this, I booted up the Wii to see when I last played it, and it appears to have been 4 months between sessions.
1) More people need to play ExciteTruck.
2) You haven't 'beaten' WarioWare.
It's usually one or the other. Some games which are light on Wii-specific controls are thanked for avoiding "tacking on" extra gestures and such to make it... wiier.
In regard to 2: You can in the sense that there isn't anything left to achieve in the game (such as unlocking new levels or modes). After that it's just a game to break out when you have company over or when you feel like getting your micro-game on.
PROTIP: You don't beat Galaga either. Or Tetris. You play them because they're fun. Do you know how to have fun anymore? Fun is something that you don't feel FORCED to do.
And I rented Excitetruck and thought it was average at best
That was awfully condescending, but I'll let that go. Just because a game has a never-ending stream of randomly generated content doesn't mean you can't finish the game, in the sense that continuing to play will not gain you anything except happy fun times for the duration of playing it. When you start wario ware you have access to one stage and no multiplayer. After you beat all the stages once, you have access to multiplayer and a bunch of other specialty games. The point where you play only for amusement the game can be considered "finished". I'm not trying to imply that the game is no longer fun to play, just that you are out of things to accomplish.
Exactly. I just didn't feel that there was anything more to accomplish. Especially in this day and age where we get games jammed down our gullets at such a rapid rate. We have jobs, families, and other interests. I can't say that I can rationalize continuing to play a game that I have gone all the way through anymore. I don't know. Maybe I'm just getting too old for this shit.
Except for "A Link To The Past". I've played through that at least 4 or 5 times.
The waggle controls are simply nowhere near as revolutionary as people seem to claim, and in some of the games I have played they simply seem like an annoying and less responsive way of inputing commands (relative to a control pad). I can't even see what the fuss is about when it comes to FPS' controls. It's not a substitute for a mouse, and I am more comfortable with the two stick console controller setup.
To be honest I think the Wii's success in targeting 'casuals' is really mainly down to marketing and creating some very shallow and simple games. From a business perspective they have obviously done very well, but the direction they have taken is not one I personally am interested in.
And please, please oh lordy, don't ever say you prefer dual analog over kb+m for FPS controls.
That line just makes every opinion you have about FPS useless.
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And I can prefer what ever the fuck I like thanks very much.
Thanks - glad to know that any opinion you have for any FPS is worthless for anyone else besides yourself.
I kid, I kid...
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Bullshit. I prefer dual-analogue, and I've been playing FPSes since before we even had the term. My opinion is far from useless.
Except for everyone else IS pretty much saying that. Apparently the mode of thought now is that just having 'fun' is no longer a good enough reason to play a game. I'm not saying that people necessarily HAVE to play games that no longer have things to unlock or whatever, but that shouldn't be the reason you discount something that's fun. If you don't like the game, then that's different - don't play it. But don't have the mode of thought that gaming is a job, and you have to accomplish everything you can, in lieu of actually enjoying yourself.
I agree. While I don't think two sticks are necessarily better (Or even all that equal) compared to the wiimote + Nunchuk, I can certainly see someone wanting a regular controller option. It's a perfectly valid complaint to have.
Personally, I do prefer the old-style of FPS controls. I have nothing at all against the Wiimote; It's an awesome controller. But using my left and right hand for different things that both require significant accuracy makes it very awkward. I can guarantee a certain level of accuracy with my thumbs, but having my hands out in the open just feels weird and uncomfortable.
I much prefer having the directional control in my better hand (I'm left handed, so I naturally want to have my left hand doing that) yet the Wiimote is designed to be in your main hand, what with all of the movements and gestures and aiming that you do with it, so I must maneuver with my off hand, which is extremely uncomfortable and took me quite a bit of getting used to. I spent much of the beginning of twilight princess swapping the nunchuk into my left hand because I simply wasn't good at all with using the joystick at my right side.
I knew it wouldn't work to play the entire game that way so I just forced myself to bear with it, and I eventually got used to it. But I really shouldn't have to MAKE myself get used to a game like that. I don't like how the beginning of Twilight Princess (On the Wii) was so very awkward and irritating at the beginning due to that little learning period I was forced to undergo. Mario Galaxy was equally cumbersome when I tried it for the first time.
The Wiimote and Nunchuk just isn't a very platformer-friendly control scheme to me. >_>
Normally I hate when people say "your opinion sucks.", but after hearing you say that you didn't like the controls for MP3, I'm sorry to say: "your opinion blows."
Says the guy who apparently likes Sense Fail.
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I agree. These FPS these days have too any buttons and it just doesn't feel comfortable on PCs anymore because of this. Some of the more simple ones are fine though like UT and such
Too many buttons? What the heck does that even mean?
what does "too many buttons" mean or are you just being a jackass because you know it's an obvious typo?
No, I'm honestly curious what the hell your talking about?
Also, the proper way to mock a typo like that is to ask "What the hell does 'too any buttons' means?" or to run with it and be all "Yeah, all games have too any buttons these days! Fucking Devs". Just FYI.
It's Senses Fail. And I do... I've also killed for less, sir.
the proper way huh...
too many buttons means exactly what th hell it means. I know you aren't retarded.
Too many things that need to be pressed? How is a controller gonna help that?
Also, how many buttons is too many for you? 8? 10?
Are FPSes wearing complicated dress shirts these days or something? With like 2 layers of buttons?