What annoys me most is that you are apparently educated (somewhat) in business and yet you continue to spout incorrect nonsense that even non-business educated folk could see right through. Would ya kindly cut it out?
Drez, I think the issue is that you are coming in here closed minded, assuming that there is no way that you can be wrong, and anyone disagreeing with you is a sign of a lack of intelligence.
I'm not sure what you hope to acomplish like that.
Hahahahahahah, YOU calling ME closed minded is hilarious.
P.S. On this particular issue, I think there is a marked lack of intelligence in not comprehending our side of the argument but you've shown a distinct and thorough lack of intelligence on so many topics throughout this thread, so really you've gone above and beyond everyone else here in displaying stupidity. I particularly love the beginning of this thread when you tried discussing business ethics as if you knew what the fuck you were talking about.
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Why does this thread keep popping up every few months? I actually thought it was just someone posting recently on the oldest one, but nope, here I see it's a whole brand spanking new thread.
I just don't get it. No one is forcing you to buy a gutted game. You have alternatives.
I mean, I can understand why it annoys certain people, but at the end of the day, barring someone checking out a game, the product is still new, whether it's gutted or not.
This.
why does this post pop up in this topic? I thought it only happened once but here it is again.
you don't have to read this thread. no one is forcing you to post. you have alternatives.
I don't like or buy gutted games either. I leave them to the people who don't give a shit. That solved the problem in my head long before I even worked at gamestop.
Why does this thread keep popping up every few months? I actually thought it was just someone posting recently on the oldest one, but nope, here I see it's a whole brand spanking new thread.
I just don't get it. No one is forcing you to buy a gutted game. You have alternatives.
I mean, I can understand why it annoys certain people, but at the end of the day, barring someone checking out a game, the product is still new, whether it's gutted or not.
This.
Is incorrect.
God, get of your tower. You aren't right. No matter how many times you say you are.
If you are offered a gutted game, follow this flowchart -
Edit: Haha! Top page
Ah, in Evander's mind there can't be a discount since it is sitll "new"
Then move the to box of "don't buy"
There is no box for "bitch on forum"
That's why your diagram fails.
That box that says "Don't Buy It" should also include something about complaining about fucking stupid their store is and how you won't shop there again. To the manager obviously.
No, if you don't like how a store operates, they are under no obligation to change their practises just to suit you. Sure, you can give them feedback on what might make you more likely to shop there in future (and you are more likely to get a good response not useing language like fucking stupid). If they decide that it might be more profitable to change to suit you, then great stuff for you, if not they won't.
They have to balance net market perceived value with costs, and currently the best way for them to do that iis to sometimes gut games.
Yes, that is what companies do, not suit the customer.
Are you fucking stupid? WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT PROFIT
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MORALS
You want to talk about morals?
Video games are the damn DEFINITION of a luxury good. Buying a video game is saying a big "FUCK YOU" to the needy of the world, telling them that you have money to burn, but you don't care to spread that wealth, and help bring them up to your level, no, you'd rather spend that money to go spend time pretending to be some one or something else.
If you are offered a gutted game, follow this flowchart -
Edit: Haha! Top page
Ah, in Evander's mind there can't be a discount since it is sitll "new"
Then move the to box of "don't buy"
There is no box for "bitch on forum"
That's why your diagram fails.
That box that says "Don't Buy It" should also include something about complaining about fucking stupid their store is and how you won't shop there again. To the manager obviously.
No, if you don't like how a store operates, they are under no obligation to change their practises just to suit you. Sure, you can give them feedback on what might make you more likely to shop there in future (and you are more likely to get a good response not useing language like fucking stupid). If they decide that it might be more profitable to change to suit you, then great stuff for you, if not they won't.
They have to balance net market perceived value with costs, and currently the best way for them to do that iis to sometimes gut games.
Yes, that is what companies do, not suit the customer.
Are you fucking stupid? WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT PROFIT
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MORALS
It's easier to read text when capital letters are used correctly.
I am talking about running their business in a way which balances cost savings and suiting the needs of the majority of customers to maximise shareholder wealth.
When EB convince all their shareholders to stop caring about dividends and instead operate as a charity, you will be correct, until then, you are not.
Why does this thread keep popping up every few months? I actually thought it was just someone posting recently on the oldest one, but nope, here I see it's a whole brand spanking new thread.
I just don't get it. No one is forcing you to buy a gutted game. You have alternatives.
I mean, I can understand why it annoys certain people, but at the end of the day, barring someone checking out a game, the product is still new, whether it's gutted or not.
This.
Is incorrect.
God, get of your tower. You aren't right. No matter how many times you say you are.
I am right. No matter how many times you people want to redefine "new" it won't work. Ever.
If you are offered a gutted game, follow this flowchart -
Edit: Haha! Top page
Ah, in Evander's mind there can't be a discount since it is sitll "new"
Then move the to box of "don't buy"
There is no box for "bitch on forum"
That's why your diagram fails.
That box that says "Don't Buy It" should also include something about complaining about fucking stupid their store is and how you won't shop there again. To the manager obviously.
No, if you don't like how a store operates, they are under no obligation to change their practises just to suit you. Sure, you can give them feedback on what might make you more likely to shop there in future (and you are more likely to get a good response not useing language like fucking stupid). If they decide that it might be more profitable to change to suit you, then great stuff for you, if not they won't.
They have to balance net market perceived value with costs, and currently the best way for them to do that iis to sometimes gut games.
Yes, that is what companies do, not suit the customer.
Are you fucking stupid? WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT PROFIT
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MORALS
You want to talk about morals?
Video games are the damn DEFINITION of a luxury good. Buying a video game is saying a big "FUCK YOU" to the needy of the world, telling them that you have money to burn, but you don't care to spread that wealth, and help bring them up to your level, no, you'd rather spend that money to go spend time pretending to be some one or something else.
You really want to talk morals?
Yes, this is a relevant argument.
Do go on.
You have to be a Rondroid.
What annoys me most is that you are apparently educated (somewhat) in business and yet you continue to spout incorrect nonsense that even non-business educated folk could see right through. Would ya kindly cut it out?
Drez, I think the issue is that you are coming in here closed minded, assuming that there is no way that you can be wrong, and anyone disagreeing with you is a sign of a lack of intelligence.
I'm not sure what you hope to acomplish like that.
Hahahahahahah, YOU calling ME closed minded is hilarious.
P.S. On this particular issue, I think there is a marked lack of intelligence in not comprehending our side of the argument but you've shown a distinct and thorough lack of intelligence on so many topics throughout this thread, so really you've gone above and beyond everyone else here in displaying stupidity. I particularly love the beginning of this thread when you tried discussing business ethics as if you knew what the fuck you were talking about.
Where did I not comprehend your side?
I said earlier in this thread that I don't even personally buy gutted games.
Why does this thread keep popping up every few months? I actually thought it was just someone posting recently on the oldest one, but nope, here I see it's a whole brand spanking new thread.
I just don't get it. No one is forcing you to buy a gutted game. You have alternatives.
I mean, I can understand why it annoys certain people, but at the end of the day, barring someone checking out a game, the product is still new, whether it's gutted or not.
This.
Is incorrect.
God, get of your tower. You aren't right. No matter how many times you say you are.
I am right. No matter how many times you people want to redefine "new" it won't work. Ever.
So how about when you buy a new car. By your definition, no car you ever buy will be new. Each one will have the miles on it driven out of the factory. You're just nitpicking over dumb shit and you aren't right. At all. At all.
Why does this thread keep popping up every few months? I actually thought it was just someone posting recently on the oldest one, but nope, here I see it's a whole brand spanking new thread.
I just don't get it. No one is forcing you to buy a gutted game. You have alternatives.
I mean, I can understand why it annoys certain people, but at the end of the day, barring someone checking out a game, the product is still new, whether it's gutted or not.
This.
Is incorrect.
God, get of your tower. You aren't right. No matter how many times you say you are.
I am right. No matter how many times you people want to redefine "new" it won't work. Ever.
So how about when you buy a new car. By your definition, no car you ever buy will be new. Each one will have the miles on it driven out of the factory. You're just nitpicking over dumb shit and you aren't right. At all. At all.
Do video games have fucking odometers to tell me this?
So wait. You guys don't check the games before you leave the store?
I'd think one time of getting a game home and discovering someone decided to put a cigarette out on the label or something would fix that. (That was a very, very long day.)
Something that has been taken home by someone is no longer new.
I don't give a shit about books or clothing or cars. In electronics this does not happen.
I don't go in to Suncoast and buy a movie that an employee has already opened, taken, home and watched.
Theres a reason electronic sites have open box items.
Stop comparing this to other things and using bullshit excuses.
A car is driven to the lot out of necessity. If an employee takes the car out on a joy ride and uses it for personal means than it is no longer new.
I'm sure testing the game for three hours is a necessity.
So is selling it like it wasn't tested for three hours.
You just aren't getting the point here.
Have you tried shoving nails up your nose?
If you are offered a gutted game, follow this flowchart -
Edit: Haha! Top page
Ah, in Evander's mind there can't be a discount since it is sitll "new"
Then move the to box of "don't buy"
There is no box for "bitch on forum"
That's why your diagram fails.
That box that says "Don't Buy It" should also include something about complaining about fucking stupid their store is and how you won't shop there again. To the manager obviously.
No, if you don't like how a store operates, they are under no obligation to change their practises just to suit you. Sure, you can give them feedback on what might make you more likely to shop there in future (and you are more likely to get a good response not useing language like fucking stupid). If they decide that it might be more profitable to change to suit you, then great stuff for you, if not they won't.
They have to balance net market perceived value with costs, and currently the best way for them to do that iis to sometimes gut games.
Yes, that is what companies do, not suit the customer.
Are you fucking stupid? WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT PROFIT
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MORALS
You want to talk about morals?
Video games are the damn DEFINITION of a luxury good. Buying a video game is saying a big "FUCK YOU" to the needy of the world, telling them that you have money to burn, but you don't care to spread that wealth, and help bring them up to your level, no, you'd rather spend that money to go spend time pretending to be some one or something else.
You really want to talk morals?
Entertainment goods and services, of which video games currently comprise a large part, are considered important, valid, and GOOD, psychologically speaking. Are you trying to say that entertainment goods are luxuries and thus immoral because money is better spent on the needy? This would be false because entertainment goods may be luxuries but quite a few psychologists would tell you how important these specific luxuries are for both society and individuals. Personal morale and all that. Are you further going to argue communism as a morally superior system to capitalism, where I should throw the money I earned at the needy instead of on myself?
So yeah let's talk morals if you want. Or rather let's not as you don't really know a fucking thing about morals.
Why does this thread keep popping up every few months? I actually thought it was just someone posting recently on the oldest one, but nope, here I see it's a whole brand spanking new thread.
I just don't get it. No one is forcing you to buy a gutted game. You have alternatives.
I mean, I can understand why it annoys certain people, but at the end of the day, barring someone checking out a game, the product is still new, whether it's gutted or not.
This.
Is incorrect.
God, get of your tower. You aren't right. No matter how many times you say you are.
I am right. No matter how many times you people want to redefine "new" it won't work. Ever.
So how about when you buy a new car. By your definition, no car you ever buy will be new. Each one will have the miles on it driven out of the factory. You're just nitpicking over dumb shit and you aren't right. At all. At all.
Do video games have fucking odometers to tell me this?
We're talking semantics here. The car has been driven. Therefore it is never new when you buy it. But people don't call them used cars. They call them new cars. The game hasn't even been played. It's new. It's the same shit and you should know it if you aren't a vacuous moron.
Why does this thread keep popping up every few months? I actually thought it was just someone posting recently on the oldest one, but nope, here I see it's a whole brand spanking new thread.
I just don't get it. No one is forcing you to buy a gutted game. You have alternatives.
I mean, I can understand why it annoys certain people, but at the end of the day, barring someone checking out a game, the product is still new, whether it's gutted or not.
This.
Is incorrect.
God, get of your tower. You aren't right. No matter how many times you say you are.
I am right. No matter how many times you people want to redefine "new" it won't work. Ever.
So how about when you buy a new car. By your definition, no car you ever buy will be new. Each one will have the miles on it driven out of the factory. You're just nitpicking over dumb shit and you aren't right. At all. At all.
How many times must I fucking address this? I invite you to read the thread; I'm not going to repeat myself yet again. The car analogy is invalid.
Listen dawgs, everyone knows that logic is the greatest currency a man can hold. So check it:
Whether you buy a gutted game or a brand new, factory sealed, lickedy-split game, you still end up playing exactly the same game. Logically, there is no difference that you should care about.
It's all about "morals", yo, and that shit don't fly.
Something that has been taken home by someone is no longer new.
I don't give a shit about books or clothing or cars. In electronics this does not happen.
I don't go in to Suncoast and buy a movie that an employee has already opened, taken, home and watched.
Theres a reason electronic sites have open box items.
Stop comparing this to other things and using bullshit excuses.
A car is driven to the lot out of necessity. If an employee takes the car out on a joy ride and uses it for personal means than it is no longer new.
I'm sure testing the game for three hours is a necessity.
So is selling it like it wasn't tested for three hours.
You just aren't getting the point here.
Have you tried shoving nails up your nose?
Uh, he's on our side here, Fuzzy. I don't understand what you're trying to say here...?
Person A's point seems to be, "Gamestop shouldn't sell opened games for full price."
Person B's point seems to be, "Well they're not USED, so yeah they should."
Person A's justification seems to be, "Fuck you, cockwad, it's out of its shrinkwrap so it's not new anymore, therefore they can't sell it for full price! Also, dicktard."
Person B's justification seems to be, "Suck me, peckersnot. There is no discernible difference between a game that spends its life out of shrinkwrap in a drawer separated from its case, and a game that sits in its case in shrinkwrap in the same drawer. In addition, wanghanger."
Person C (that's me!) reads the last few pages of this thread and goes, "Holy shit. There are actual people who actually care about such a meaningless topic so much that they INTERNET FIGHT about it. I guess the people who draw pictures of dragons fucking cars aren't the saddest people on the Internet afterall."
If you are offered a gutted game, follow this flowchart -
Edit: Haha! Top page
Ah, in Evander's mind there can't be a discount since it is sitll "new"
Then move the to box of "don't buy"
There is no box for "bitch on forum"
That's why your diagram fails.
That box that says "Don't Buy It" should also include something about complaining about fucking stupid their store is and how you won't shop there again. To the manager obviously.
No. If you don't like how a store operates, they are under no obligation to change their practises just to suit you. Sure, you can give them feedback on what might make you more likely to shop there in future (and you are more likely to get a good response not useing language like fucking stupid). If they decide that it might be more profitable to change to suit you, then great stuff for you, if not they won't.
They have to balance net market perceived value with costs, and currently the best way for them to do that iis to sometimes gut games.
Their under no obligation to change their practices. And neither am I. My practice is to to not buy it and then ream someone out for trying to pull this shit on me.
Listen dawgs, everyone knows that logic is the greatest currency a man can hold. So check it:
Whether you buy a gutted game or a brand new, factory sealed, lickedy-split game, you still end up playing exactly the same game. Logically, there is no difference that you should care about.
It's all about "morals", yo, and that shit don't fly.
Saying the word "logically" and typing a shitty sentence does not make it logical.
logically
Morals are for people with emotions and feelings mirite
If you are offered a gutted game, follow this flowchart -
Edit: Haha! Top page
Ah, in Evander's mind there can't be a discount since it is sitll "new"
Then move the to box of "don't buy"
There is no box for "bitch on forum"
That's why your diagram fails.
That box that says "Don't Buy It" should also include something about complaining about fucking stupid their store is and how you won't shop there again. To the manager obviously.
No, if you don't like how a store operates, they are under no obligation to change their practises just to suit you. Sure, you can give them feedback on what might make you more likely to shop there in future (and you are more likely to get a good response not useing language like fucking stupid). If they decide that it might be more profitable to change to suit you, then great stuff for you, if not they won't.
They have to balance net market perceived value with costs, and currently the best way for them to do that iis to sometimes gut games.
Yes, that is what companies do, not suit the customer.
Are you fucking stupid? WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT PROFIT
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MORALS
You want to talk about morals?
Video games are the damn DEFINITION of a luxury good. Buying a video game is saying a big "FUCK YOU" to the needy of the world, telling them that you have money to burn, but you don't care to spread that wealth, and help bring them up to your level, no, you'd rather spend that money to go spend time pretending to be some one or something else.
You really want to talk morals?
Entertainment goods and services, of which video games currently comprise a large part, are considered important, valid, and GOOD, psychologically speaking. Are you trying to say that entertainment goods are luxuries and thus immoral because money is better spent on the needy? This would be false because entertainment goods may be luxuries but quite a few psychologists would tell you how important these specific luxuries are for both society and individuals. Personal morale and all that. Are you further going to argue communism as a morally superior system to capitalism, where I should throw the money I earned at the needy instead of on myself?
So yeah let's talk morals if you want. Or rather let's not as you don't really know a fucking thing about morals.
there are plenty of ways to derive entertainment without paying $60 a pop.
My point is that this is NOT a moral issue. Claiming it is a moral issue is merely an attempt to shield the fact that it is being argued that one party should do something which is solely to their detriment.
Something that has been taken home by someone is no longer new.
I don't give a shit about books or clothing or cars. In electronics this does not happen.
I don't go in to Suncoast and buy a movie that an employee has already opened, taken, home and watched.
Theres a reason electronic sites have open box items.
Stop comparing this to other things and using bullshit excuses.
A car is driven to the lot out of necessity. If an employee takes the car out on a joy ride and uses it for personal means than it is no longer new.
I'm sure testing the game for three hours is a necessity.
So is selling it like it wasn't tested for three hours.
You just aren't getting the point here.
Have you tried shoving nails up your nose?
Uh, he's on our side here, Fuzzy. I don't understand what you're trying to say here...?
Why does this thread keep popping up every few months? I actually thought it was just someone posting recently on the oldest one, but nope, here I see it's a whole brand spanking new thread.
I just don't get it. No one is forcing you to buy a gutted game. You have alternatives.
I mean, I can understand why it annoys certain people, but at the end of the day, barring someone checking out a game, the product is still new, whether it's gutted or not.
This.
Is incorrect.
God, get of your tower. You aren't right. No matter how many times you say you are.
I am right. No matter how many times you people want to redefine "new" it won't work. Ever.
So how about when you buy a new car. By your definition, no car you ever buy will be new. Each one will have the miles on it driven out of the factory. You're just nitpicking over dumb shit and you aren't right. At all. At all.
How many times must I fucking address this? I invite you to read the thread; I'm not going to repeat myself yet again. The car analogy is invalid.
Invalid? Absoulutely not. The car is driven out of necessity? Nope. It just saves a lot of money to do it that way. Just like....hmmmmm...gutting games.
I'm wondering. If they stick that ugly sticker on the gutted game, and you open it in front of them to check to see if they put everything in/disk is unscratched, Would they decline a refund, or only give you what they would for a used game, since you've opened the package?
there are plenty of ways to derive entertainment without paying $60 a pop.
And there are plenty of ways to derive entertainment that cost a lot more than $60 a pop. This is a classic example of Evander saying something irrelevant. I would ask you what you think this means - what kind of relevancy you think this observation has to the topic at hand - but I think your thought process might actually damage my brain at this point.
My point is that this is NOT a moral issue. Claiming it is a moral issue is merely an attempt to shield the fact that it is being argued that one party should do something which is solely to their detriment.
At this point I'm just speechless. You are utterly hopeless and clueless.
Don't shop at EB games. It's not like they have a monopoly on selling video games. Wal Mart, Target, whatever. They all do it and as an added bonus they don't treat you like shit when you buy from them.
Which is why I either buy games at a "normal" retail store or order them online.
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If you are offered a gutted game, follow this flowchart -
Edit: Haha! Top page
Ah, in Evander's mind there can't be a discount since it is sitll "new"
Then move the to box of "don't buy"
There is no box for "bitch on forum"
That's why your diagram fails.
That box that says "Don't Buy It" should also include something about complaining about fucking stupid their store is and how you won't shop there again. To the manager obviously.
No. If you don't like how a store operates, they are under no obligation to change their practises just to suit you. Sure, you can give them feedback on what might make you more likely to shop there in future (and you are more likely to get a good response not useing language like fucking stupid). If they decide that it might be more profitable to change to suit you, then great stuff for you, if not they won't.
They have to balance net market perceived value with costs, and currently the best way for them to do that iis to sometimes gut games.
Their under no obligation to change their practices. And neither am I. My practice is to to buy it and then ream someone out for trying to pull this shit on me.
Okay, pray tell what exactly did they "pull" on you. Did they somehow distract you out of the fact that they had to reach into a drawer, pull out a sleeve, take the game out of the sleeve, open the game box, and then put the game in the box? Were you so mesmerized with their charm that you failed to see that the game had no sort of shrinkwrap? Were they such smooth talkers that somewhow they convinced you to buy the game anyhow?
Because unless all those things happen, you really don't have much of a right to bitch.
there are plenty of ways to derive entertainment without paying $60 a pop.
And there are plenty of ways to derive entertainment that cost a lot more than $60 a pop. This is a classic example of Evander saying something irrelevant. I would ask you what you think this means - what kind of relevancy you think this observation has to the topic at hand - but I think your thought process might actually damage my brain at this point.
My point is that this is NOT a moral issue. Claiming it is a moral issue is merely an attempt to shield the fact that it is being argued that one party should do something which is solely to their detriment.
At this point I'm just speechless. You are utterly hopeless and clueless.
Instead of acknowledging your argument, I would like to talk about ducks.
They have feathers and are cute.
Don't you like ducks?
I'm wondering. If they stick that ugly sticker on the gutted game, and you open it in front of them to check to see if they put everything in/disk is unscratched, Would they decline a refund, or only give you what they would for a used game, since you've opened the package?
neither.
mind you, we stopped using those stickers at our store, because we hate them ourselves, but if you open the game, and find it is defective, you'd get a full refund definitely.
If you are offered a gutted game, follow this flowchart -
Edit: Haha! Top page
Ah, in Evander's mind there can't be a discount since it is sitll "new"
Then move the to box of "don't buy"
There is no box for "bitch on forum"
That's why your diagram fails.
That box that says "Don't Buy It" should also include something about complaining about fucking stupid their store is and how you won't shop there again. To the manager obviously.
No. If you don't like how a store operates, they are under no obligation to change their practises just to suit you. Sure, you can give them feedback on what might make you more likely to shop there in future (and you are more likely to get a good response not useing language like fucking stupid). If they decide that it might be more profitable to change to suit you, then great stuff for you, if not they won't.
They have to balance net market perceived value with costs, and currently the best way for them to do that iis to sometimes gut games.
Their under no obligation to change their practices. And neither am I. My practice is to to buy it and then ream someone out for trying to pull this shit on me.
Okay, pray tell what exactly did they "pull" on you. Did they somehow distract you out of the fact that they had to reach into a drawer, pull out a sleeve, take the game out of the sleeve, open the game box, and then put the game in the box? Were you so mesmerized with their charm that you failed to see that the game had no sort of shrinkwrap? Were they such smooth talkers that somewhow they convinced you to buy the game anyhow?
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What about fucking joe schmoe who is buying a game for his son and has no idea EBstop does this shit?
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Hahahahahahah, YOU calling ME closed minded is hilarious.
P.S. On this particular issue, I think there is a marked lack of intelligence in not comprehending our side of the argument but you've shown a distinct and thorough lack of intelligence on so many topics throughout this thread, so really you've gone above and beyond everyone else here in displaying stupidity. I particularly love the beginning of this thread when you tried discussing business ethics as if you knew what the fuck you were talking about.
why does this post pop up in this topic? I thought it only happened once but here it is again.
you don't have to read this thread. no one is forcing you to post. you have alternatives.
Jesus christ.
Wasn't entirely serious about that post fuzzy.
God, get of your tower. You aren't right. No matter how many times you say you are.
You want to talk about morals?
Video games are the damn DEFINITION of a luxury good. Buying a video game is saying a big "FUCK YOU" to the needy of the world, telling them that you have money to burn, but you don't care to spread that wealth, and help bring them up to your level, no, you'd rather spend that money to go spend time pretending to be some one or something else.
You really want to talk morals?
It's easier to read text when capital letters are used correctly.
I am talking about running their business in a way which balances cost savings and suiting the needs of the majority of customers to maximise shareholder wealth.
When EB convince all their shareholders to stop caring about dividends and instead operate as a charity, you will be correct, until then, you are not.
He saw other people making bad analogies so he thought it was okay. Give him a break.
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I am right. No matter how many times you people want to redefine "new" it won't work. Ever.
Do go on.
You have to be a Rondroid.
Where did I not comprehend your side?
I said earlier in this thread that I don't even personally buy gutted games.
So how about when you buy a new car. By your definition, no car you ever buy will be new. Each one will have the miles on it driven out of the factory. You're just nitpicking over dumb shit and you aren't right. At all. At all.
I don't like madden either.
And it's damn hard to not know that a game is gutted. that is kind of like not knowing what system it is for.
I don't give a shit about books or clothing or cars. In electronics this does not happen.
I don't go in to Suncoast and buy a movie that an employee has already opened, taken, home and watched.
Theres a reason electronic sites have open box items.
Stop comparing this to other things and using bullshit excuses.
A car is driven to the lot out of necessity. If an employee takes the car out on a joy ride and uses it for personal means than it is no longer new.
I almost wish I had bought a gutted game at some point so I'd be able to file on this.
I'd think one time of getting a game home and discovering someone decided to put a cigarette out on the label or something would fix that. (That was a very, very long day.)
So is selling it like it wasn't tested for three hours.
You just aren't getting the point here.
Have you tried shoving nails up your nose?
Entertainment goods and services, of which video games currently comprise a large part, are considered important, valid, and GOOD, psychologically speaking. Are you trying to say that entertainment goods are luxuries and thus immoral because money is better spent on the needy? This would be false because entertainment goods may be luxuries but quite a few psychologists would tell you how important these specific luxuries are for both society and individuals. Personal morale and all that. Are you further going to argue communism as a morally superior system to capitalism, where I should throw the money I earned at the needy instead of on myself?
So yeah let's talk morals if you want. Or rather let's not as you don't really know a fucking thing about morals.
We're talking semantics here. The car has been driven. Therefore it is never new when you buy it. But people don't call them used cars. They call them new cars. The game hasn't even been played. It's new. It's the same shit and you should know it if you aren't a vacuous moron.
How many times must I fucking address this? I invite you to read the thread; I'm not going to repeat myself yet again. The car analogy is invalid.
Damn.
Whether you buy a gutted game or a brand new, factory sealed, lickedy-split game, you still end up playing exactly the same game. Logically, there is no difference that you should care about.
It's all about "morals", yo, and that shit don't fly.
Uh, he's on our side here, Fuzzy. I don't understand what you're trying to say here...?
Person B's point seems to be, "Well they're not USED, so yeah they should."
Person A's justification seems to be, "Fuck you, cockwad, it's out of its shrinkwrap so it's not new anymore, therefore they can't sell it for full price! Also, dicktard."
Person B's justification seems to be, "Suck me, peckersnot. There is no discernible difference between a game that spends its life out of shrinkwrap in a drawer separated from its case, and a game that sits in its case in shrinkwrap in the same drawer. In addition, wanghanger."
Person C (that's me!) reads the last few pages of this thread and goes, "Holy shit. There are actual people who actually care about such a meaningless topic so much that they INTERNET FIGHT about it. I guess the people who draw pictures of dragons fucking cars aren't the saddest people on the Internet afterall."
Their under no obligation to change their practices. And neither am I. My practice is to to not buy it and then ream someone out for trying to pull this shit on me.
there are plenty of ways to derive entertainment without paying $60 a pop.
My point is that this is NOT a moral issue. Claiming it is a moral issue is merely an attempt to shield the fact that it is being argued that one party should do something which is solely to their detriment.
Invalid? Absoulutely not. The car is driven out of necessity? Nope. It just saves a lot of money to do it that way. Just like....hmmmmm...gutting games.
And there are plenty of ways to derive entertainment that cost a lot more than $60 a pop. This is a classic example of Evander saying something irrelevant. I would ask you what you think this means - what kind of relevancy you think this observation has to the topic at hand - but I think your thought process might actually damage my brain at this point.
At this point I'm just speechless. You are utterly hopeless and clueless.
Don't shop at EB games. It's not like they have a monopoly on selling video games. Wal Mart, Target, whatever. They all do it and as an added bonus they don't treat you like shit when you buy from them.
Which is why I either buy games at a "normal" retail store or order them online.
Okay, pray tell what exactly did they "pull" on you. Did they somehow distract you out of the fact that they had to reach into a drawer, pull out a sleeve, take the game out of the sleeve, open the game box, and then put the game in the box? Were you so mesmerized with their charm that you failed to see that the game had no sort of shrinkwrap? Were they such smooth talkers that somewhow they convinced you to buy the game anyhow?
Because unless all those things happen, you really don't have much of a right to bitch.
They have feathers and are cute.
Don't you like ducks?
neither.
mind you, we stopped using those stickers at our store, because we hate them ourselves, but if you open the game, and find it is defective, you'd get a full refund definitely.