there are plenty of ways to derive entertainment without paying $60 a pop.
And there are plenty of ways to derive entertainment that cost a lot more than $60 a pop. This is a classic example of Evander saying something irrelevant. I would ask you what you think this means - what kind of relevancy you think this observation has to the topic at hand - but I think your thought process might actually damage my brain at this point.
My point is that this is NOT a moral issue. Claiming it is a moral issue is merely an attempt to shield the fact that it is being argued that one party should do something which is solely to their detriment.
At this point I'm just speechless. You are utterly hopeless and clueless.
If you are offered a gutted game, follow this flowchart -
Edit: Haha! Top page
Ah, in Evander's mind there can't be a discount since it is sitll "new"
Then move the to box of "don't buy"
There is no box for "bitch on forum"
That's why your diagram fails.
That box that says "Don't Buy It" should also include something about complaining about fucking stupid their store is and how you won't shop there again. To the manager obviously.
No, if you don't like how a store operates, they are under no obligation to change their practises just to suit you. Sure, you can give them feedback on what might make you more likely to shop there in future (and you are more likely to get a good response not useing language like fucking stupid). If they decide that it might be more profitable to change to suit you, then great stuff for you, if not they won't.
They have to balance net market perceived value with costs, and currently the best way for them to do that iis to sometimes gut games.
Yes, that is what companies do, not suit the customer.
Are you fucking stupid? WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT PROFIT
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MORALS
You want to talk about morals?
Video games are the damn DEFINITION of a luxury good. Buying a video game is saying a big "FUCK YOU" to the needy of the world, telling them that you have money to burn, but you don't care to spread that wealth, and help bring them up to your level, no, you'd rather spend that money to go spend time pretending to be some one or something else.
You really want to talk morals?
Oh get off your fucking horse. $50 isn't going to raise anybody up to middle-class American level.
What about fucking joe schmoe who is buying a game for his son and has no idea EBstop does this shit?
This is the first valid point made in this thread.
I would say that, if he really cares about it, he should research the store and their practises before hand.
And, regardless, if the product itself is absolutely identical, I don't see where he has been mislead about what he is buying.
It is not the customers responsibility to fucking make sure a store is not cheating them. It is the fucking stores responsibility to not cheat the fucking customer. What the fuck.
I'm wondering. If they stick that ugly sticker on the gutted game, and you open it in front of them to check to see if they put everything in/disk is unscratched, Would they decline a refund, or only give you what they would for a used game, since you've opened the package?
neither.
mind you, we stopped using those stickers at our store, because we hate them ourselves, but if you open the game, and find it is defective, you'd get a full refund definitely.
It's awesome that you keep reaffirming the fact that Gamestop acts solely out of selfish self-interest, even aesthetic decisions like this one.
I hope you understand that this is largely why people hate Gamestop.
To all the people saying that the solution is to not shop there, well sorry but that doesn't cut it for me. My solution is for everyone to stop shopping there and for the entire company and their entire method of doing business to go bankrupt.
I cannot stress enough that I am not exaggerating.
there are plenty of ways to derive entertainment without paying $60 a pop.
And there are plenty of ways to derive entertainment that cost a lot more than $60 a pop. This is a classic example of Evander saying something irrelevant. I would ask you what you think this means - what kind of relevancy you think this observation has to the topic at hand - but I think your thought process might actually damage my brain at this point.
My point is that this is NOT a moral issue. Claiming it is a moral issue is merely an attempt to shield the fact that it is being argued that one party should do something which is solely to their detriment.
At this point I'm just speechless. You are utterly hopeless and clueless.
Gutting games is a most shameful practice (and deserves all the scorn it gets), but since only ebgamestop does it (shows you what other places think of it), I avoid it pretty easily, and they simply miss out on my significant (for an individual) amount of business. Also as a person in a position of influence of many friends, nobody else I know shops there either.
Person C (that's me!) reads the last few pages of this thread and goes, "Holy shit. There are actual people who actually care about such a meaningless topic so much that they INTERNET FIGHT about it. I guess the people who draw pictures of dragons fucking cars aren't the saddest people on the Internet afterall."
Despite what Evander would have us believe, $50-60 may not be the boon the world economy is waiting for, but it is still a lot of money for a lot of people. And when a person plops down $60 for a product, it's not unreasonable to expect that product to be in the best condition possible. Gutted is not the best condition possible.
What about fucking joe schmoe who is buying a game for his son and has no idea EBstop does this shit?
This is the first valid point made in this thread.
I would say that, if he really cares about it, he should research the store and their practises before hand.
And, regardless, if the product itself is absolutely identical, I don't see where he has been mislead about what he is buying.
It is not the customers responsibility to fucking make sure a store is not cheating them. It is the fucking stores responsibility to not cheat the fucking customer. What the fuck.
Since when?
A store SHOULD NOT cheat their customers, but consumers need to be aware of what they are buying as well.
GameStop's policies are not secret. They should not be to blame if some one didn't feel like reading them.
The only issue is when there is intent to decieve.
What about fucking joe schmoe who is buying a game for his son and has no idea EBstop does this shit?
This is the first valid point made in this thread.
I would say that, if he really cares about it, he should research the store and their practises before hand.
And, regardless, if the product itself is absolutely identical, I don't see where he has been mislead about what he is buying.
It is not the customers responsibility to fucking make sure a store is not cheating them. It is the fucking stores responsibility to not cheat the fucking customer. What the fuck.
Cheat them out of their...plastic wrapping? I think the distinction you guys are making is the difference between 'new' and 'fresh out of the shipping package.' Which is just silly. It's not cheating anyone out of anything. Furthermore, if it still bothers you then JUST DONT BUY GUTTED GAMES. FOR THE BILLIONTH TIME.
Gutting games is a most shameful practice (and deserves all the scorn it gets), but since only ebgamestop does it (shows you what other places think of it), I avoid it pretty easily, and they simply miss out on my significant (for an individual) amount of business. Also as a person in a position of influence of many friends, nobody else I know shops there either.
You do realize that, no matter how self-important you might be, you are nothing compared to the ammount of business that GameStop does.
Fuck, Evander, why don't you just stop buying games then. Show us your superiour morals by raising an african kid or two.
Frankly, EG Defender Brigade is hopelesss as it can get. A Game played doesn't make it new anymore just like a virgin having sex isn't a virgin anymore. There either should be a three tiered pricing or you know, EB employee should just buy the damn game and if they can't then too bad.
Gutting games is a most shameful practice (and deserves all the scorn it gets), but since only ebgamestop does it (shows you what other places think of it), I avoid it pretty easily, and they simply miss out on my significant (for an individual) amount of business. Also as a person in a position of influence of many friends, nobody else I know shops there either.
Haha, I want you to be aware of how delusional you sound.
Honestly, I'll never forget how some random register jockey in a Gamestop thread a year ago told me that it was my moral duty to preorder because by not preordering I was putting his job in jeopardy.
At that point in time I had a mild dislike for EBStop, but I think most of my resentment can now be traced back to that moment. Since then I've become keenly aware of this sense of entitlement that brainwashed EBStop employees all seem to hold and it's more or less reestablished and reaffirmed every time a thread like this crops up.
It's really, really obnoxious and instead of actually listening to reason or at least arguing WITH reason, EBStop employees just argue their insane, invalid points of view until they are blue in the face.
I just don't get it. I escaped unscathed, so long ago. What is EBStop doing to its employees now, to poison your minds to this degree? I'd really, really like to know.
Honestly, I'll never forget how some random register jockey in a Gamestop thread a year ago told me that it was my moral duty to preorder because by not preordering I was putting his job in jeopardy.
At that point in time I had a mild dislike for EBStop, but I think most of my resentment can now be traced back to that moment. Since then I've become keenly aware of this sense of entitlement that brainwashed EBStop employees all seem to hold and it's more or less reestablished and reaffirmed every time a thread like this crops up.
It's really, really obnoxious and instead of actually listening to reason or at least arguing WITH reason, EBStop employees just argue their insane, invalid points of view until they are blue in the face.
I just don't get it. I escape unscathed, so long ago. What is EBStop doing to its employees now, to poison your minds to this degree? I'd really, really like to know.
You're blanketing all EBG and GS employees into one category. It's not a particularly difficult job to get. Chances are that they hire retards. Just like every company! Imagine that. So basically, shut up.
I am right and you are wrong. That's how it works right? Yeah, yeah.
You know its quite like using a condom, then wrapping it agian. Hey its a new condom! EB Games for the win!
KA, the hole in the center of the disc ISN'T for that.
Oh ha, ha. How about a little furry jokes that you usually resort to.
Or how about you enlighten us about your economics and your fucking blindness to anything EBGames does. Do you feel good screwing the customer and laughing behind their back calling them idiots?
Honestly, I'll never forget how some random register jockey in a Gamestop thread a year ago told me that it was my moral duty to preorder because by not preordering I was putting his job in jeopardy.
At that point in time I had a mild dislike for EBStop, but I think most of my resentment can now be traced back to that moment. Since then I've become keenly aware of this sense of entitlement that brainwashed EBStop employees all seem to hold and it's more or less reestablished and reaffirmed every time a thread like this crops up.
It's really, really obnoxious and instead of actually listening to reason or at least arguing WITH reason, EBStop employees just argue their insane, invalid points of view until they are blue in the face.
I just don't get it. I escape unscathed, so long ago. What is EBStop doing to its employees now, to poison your minds to this degree? I'd really, really like to know.
You're blanketing all EBG and GS employees into one category. It's not a particularly difficult job to get. Chances are that they hire retards. Just like every company! Imagine that. So basically, shut up.
I am right and you are wrong. That's how it works right? Yeah, yeah.
Don't know what you apply to, but a regualr and intense screening hiring process goes on in my workplace with facebook checking and all that.
If EBGames can't hire good staff with the balls to stand up for whats right, then by no means am I entitled to either respect you or the company you are employed for or stand for.
Honestly, I'll never forget how some random register jockey in a Gamestop thread a year ago told me that it was my moral duty to preorder because by not preordering I was putting his job in jeopardy.
At that point in time I had a mild dislike for EBStop, but I think most of my resentment can now be traced back to that moment. Since then I've become keenly aware of this sense of entitlement that brainwashed EBStop employees all seem to hold and it's more or less reestablished and reaffirmed every time a thread like this crops up.
It's really, really obnoxious and instead of actually listening to reason or at least arguing WITH reason, EBStop employees just argue their insane, invalid points of view until they are blue in the face.
I just don't get it. I escape unscathed, so long ago. What is EBStop doing to its employees now, to poison your minds to this degree? I'd really, really like to know.
You're blanketing all EBG and GS employees into one category. It's not a particularly difficult job to get. Chances are that they hire retards. Just like every company! Imagine that. So basically, shut up.
I am right and you are wrong. That's how it works right? Yeah, yeah.
No, I am right and YOU are wrong. It doesn't work in reverse, sorry.
And there are some decent GS/EBG employees. The only one I can think of on this forum, offhand, is Kami.
It's hard not to develop a bias when every single person you meet that works for the company exudes the same unintelligent, brainwashed lack of logic and sense of entitlement. So, cry me a river while I go ahead and keep my seemingly-valid bias.
If you are offered a gutted game, follow this flowchart -
Edit: Haha! Top page
Ah, in Evander's mind there can't be a discount since it is sitll "new"
Then move the to box of "don't buy"
There is no box for "bitch on forum"
That's why your diagram fails.
That box that says "Don't Buy It" should also include something about complaining about fucking stupid their store is and how you won't shop there again. To the manager obviously.
No. If you don't like how a store operates, they are under no obligation to change their practises just to suit you. Sure, you can give them feedback on what might make you more likely to shop there in future (and you are more likely to get a good response not useing language like fucking stupid). If they decide that it might be more profitable to change to suit you, then great stuff for you, if not they won't.
They have to balance net market perceived value with costs, and currently the best way for them to do that iis to sometimes gut games.
Their under no obligation to change their practices. And neither am I. My practice is to to buy it and then ream someone out for trying to pull this shit on me.
Okay, pray tell what exactly did they "pull" on you. Did they somehow distract you out of the fact that they had to reach into a drawer, pull out a sleeve, take the game out of the sleeve, open the game box, and then put the game in the box? Were you so mesmerized with their charm that you failed to see that the game had no sort of shrinkwrap? Were they such smooth talkers that somewhow they convinced you to buy the game anyhow?
Because unless all those things happen, you really don't have much of a right to bitch.
?? They tried to sell me an unsealed product as new. I won't buy that shit. And there damn well gonna know I won't buy that shit. If you don't say anything, how do you expect them to know what your complaint is?
Are you affronted by the idea that I'd actually have the gall to complain about a store policy I don't like? Seriously?
Honestly, I'll never forget how some random register jockey in a Gamestop thread a year ago told me that it was my moral duty to preorder because by not preordering I was putting his job in jeopardy.
At that point in time I had a mild dislike for EBStop, but I think most of my resentment can now be traced back to that moment. Since then I've become keenly aware of this sense of entitlement that brainwashed EBStop employees all seem to hold and it's more or less reestablished and reaffirmed every time a thread like this crops up.
It's really, really obnoxious and instead of actually listening to reason or at least arguing WITH reason, EBStop employees just argue their insane, invalid points of view until they are blue in the face.
I just don't get it. I escape unscathed, so long ago. What is EBStop doing to its employees now, to poison your minds to this degree? I'd really, really like to know.
I've written an employee up for an attitude not dissimilar to the one that one gave you.
And you're using words like insane. Good lord.
We're not fucking wal-mart. We don't have giant ass glass cases with old ladies standing around waiting to open them.
We're not fucking FYE. We actually have a lot of games, not 3 rows.
99% of the fucking games we sell are shrink wrapped. The ones that aren't, the customers are presented with a choice at that point. It's not subversive. It's just unlike other retailers, which apparently bothers the everloving shit out of you.
Different business model, different tactics, different policies.
Why is it that outside of your typical customer complaints that you hear about every business on the internet, these forums are the only place I see these rants.
Gutting games is a most shameful practice (and deserves all the scorn it gets), but since only ebgamestop does it (shows you what other places think of it), I avoid it pretty easily, and they simply miss out on my significant (for an individual) amount of business. Also as a person in a position of influence of many friends, nobody else I know shops there either.
You do realize that, no matter how self-important you might be, you are nothing compared to the ammount of business that GameStop does.
I don't care? They don't affect me in any way save for the rare exclusive special edition.
Honestly, I'll never forget how some random register jockey in a Gamestop thread a year ago told me that it was my moral duty to preorder because by not preordering I was putting his job in jeopardy.
At that point in time I had a mild dislike for EBStop, but I think most of my resentment can now be traced back to that moment. Since then I've become keenly aware of this sense of entitlement that brainwashed EBStop employees all seem to hold and it's more or less reestablished and reaffirmed every time a thread like this crops up.
It's really, really obnoxious and instead of actually listening to reason or at least arguing WITH reason, EBStop employees just argue their insane, invalid points of view until they are blue in the face.
I just don't get it. I escape unscathed, so long ago. What is EBStop doing to its employees now, to poison your minds to this degree? I'd really, really like to know.
You're blanketing all EBG and GS employees into one category. It's not a particularly difficult job to get. Chances are that they hire retards. Just like every company! Imagine that. So basically, shut up.
I am right and you are wrong. That's how it works right? Yeah, yeah.
Don't know what you apply to, but a regualr and intense screening hiring process goes on in my workplace with facebook checking and all that.
If EBGames can't hire good staff with the balls to stand up for whats right, then by no means am I entitled to either respect you or the company you are employed for or stand for.
It's more the fact that I know that 'standing up for whats right,' as you put it, is just dumb idealistic shit. It's a minimum wage job. You think the company gives a shit? There are plenty of willing potential employees. This is all under the assumption once again that there is some kind of right and wrong here. Which there isn't really. Yeah, employees sometimes check out new games and then bring them back. It's about 1 in 100 games. I don't really stand behind that. I don't check out new games.
The issue at hand though is that gutted games may not be new. They are. Get over yourself.
Gutting games is a most shameful practice (and deserves all the scorn it gets), but since only ebgamestop does it (shows you what other places think of it), I avoid it pretty easily, and they simply miss out on my significant (for an individual) amount of business. Also as a person in a position of influence of many friends, nobody else I know shops there either.
You do realize that, no matter how self-important you might be, you are nothing compared to the ammount of business that GameStop does.
I don't care? They don't affect me in any way save for the rare exclusive special edition.
No, that's fine.
I was just pointing out that the loss of your business doesn't have any noticable effect on them.
Honestly, I'll never forget how some random register jockey in a Gamestop thread a year ago told me that it was my moral duty to preorder because by not preordering I was putting his job in jeopardy.
At that point in time I had a mild dislike for EBStop, but I think most of my resentment can now be traced back to that moment. Since then I've become keenly aware of this sense of entitlement that brainwashed EBStop employees all seem to hold and it's more or less reestablished and reaffirmed every time a thread like this crops up.
It's really, really obnoxious and instead of actually listening to reason or at least arguing WITH reason, EBStop employees just argue their insane, invalid points of view until they are blue in the face.
I just don't get it. I escape unscathed, so long ago. What is EBStop doing to its employees now, to poison your minds to this degree? I'd really, really like to know.
You're blanketing all EBG and GS employees into one category. It's not a particularly difficult job to get. Chances are that they hire retards. Just like every company! Imagine that. So basically, shut up.
I am right and you are wrong. That's how it works right? Yeah, yeah.
Don't know what you apply to, but a regualr and intense screening hiring process goes on in my workplace with facebook checking and all that.
If EBGames can't hire good staff with the balls to stand up for whats right, then by no means am I entitled to either respect you or the company you are employed for or stand for.
It's more the fact that I know that 'standing up for whats right,' as you put it, is just dumb idealistic shit. It's a minimum wage job. You think the company gives a shit? There are plenty of willing potential employees. This is all under the assumption once again that there is some kind of right and wrong here. Which there isn't really. Yeah, employees sometimes check out new games and then bring them back. It's about 1 in 100 games. I don't really stand behind that. I don't check out new games.
The issue at hand though is that gutted games may not be new. They are. Get over yourself.
It's not a matter of getting over ourselves. It's a matter of educating you on the fact that gutted games are not new. It's sad that you are resistant to being educated, but hopefully the brick wall you've developed around that thing you call a brain will crumble one day and the light of truth will shine through.
Gutting games is a most shameful practice (and deserves all the scorn it gets), but since only ebgamestop does it (shows you what other places think of it), I avoid it pretty easily, and they simply miss out on my significant (for an individual) amount of business. Also as a person in a position of influence of many friends, nobody else I know shops there either.
You do realize that, no matter how self-important you might be, you are nothing compared to the ammount of business that GameStop does.
That was one of the most completely hypocritical statements I've ever seen.
'If you don't like it, don't shop there'
'I don't like it, so I don't shop there and convince my friends not to'
'Oh? It doesn't matter because you're not important.'
Honestly, I'll never forget how some random register jockey in a Gamestop thread a year ago told me that it was my moral duty to preorder because by not preordering I was putting his job in jeopardy.
At that point in time I had a mild dislike for EBStop, but I think most of my resentment can now be traced back to that moment. Since then I've become keenly aware of this sense of entitlement that brainwashed EBStop employees all seem to hold and it's more or less reestablished and reaffirmed every time a thread like this crops up.
It's really, really obnoxious and instead of actually listening to reason or at least arguing WITH reason, EBStop employees just argue their insane, invalid points of view until they are blue in the face.
I just don't get it. I escape unscathed, so long ago. What is EBStop doing to its employees now, to poison your minds to this degree? I'd really, really like to know.
I've written an employee up for an attitude not dissimilar to the one that one gave you.
And you're using words like insane. Good lord.
We're not fucking wal-mart. We don't have giant ass glass cases with old ladies standing around waiting to open them.
We're not fucking FYE. We actually have a lot of games, not 3 rows.
99% of the fucking games we sell are shrink wrapped. The ones that aren't, the customers are presented with a choice at that point. It's not subversive. It's just unlike other retailers, which apparently bothers the everloving shit out of you.
Different business model, different tactics, different policies.
Why is it that outside of your typical customer complaints that you hear about every business on the internet, these forums are the only place I see these rants.
Chill the fuck out.
I apologize. Evander is insane. Others may or may not be. I'm seeing all of this through Evander eyes.
Honestly, I'll never forget how some random register jockey in a Gamestop thread a year ago told me that it was my moral duty to preorder because by not preordering I was putting his job in jeopardy.
At that point in time I had a mild dislike for EBStop, but I think most of my resentment can now be traced back to that moment. Since then I've become keenly aware of this sense of entitlement that brainwashed EBStop employees all seem to hold and it's more or less reestablished and reaffirmed every time a thread like this crops up.
It's really, really obnoxious and instead of actually listening to reason or at least arguing WITH reason, EBStop employees just argue their insane, invalid points of view until they are blue in the face.
I just don't get it. I escape unscathed, so long ago. What is EBStop doing to its employees now, to poison your minds to this degree? I'd really, really like to know.
You're blanketing all EBG and GS employees into one category. It's not a particularly difficult job to get. Chances are that they hire retards. Just like every company! Imagine that. So basically, shut up.
I am right and you are wrong. That's how it works right? Yeah, yeah.
No, I am right and YOU are wrong. It doesn't work in reverse, sorry.
And there are some decent GS/EBG employees. The only one I can think of on this forum, offhand, is Kami.
It's hard not to develop a bias when every single person you meet that works for the company exudes the same unintelligent, brainwashed lack of logic and sense of entitlement. So, cry me a river while I go ahead and keep my seemingly-valid bias.
Honestly, I'll never forget how some random register jockey in a Gamestop thread a year ago told me that it was my moral duty to preorder because by not preordering I was putting his job in jeopardy.
At that point in time I had a mild dislike for EBStop, but I think most of my resentment can now be traced back to that moment. Since then I've become keenly aware of this sense of entitlement that brainwashed EBStop employees all seem to hold and it's more or less reestablished and reaffirmed every time a thread like this crops up.
It's really, really obnoxious and instead of actually listening to reason or at least arguing WITH reason, EBStop employees just argue their insane, invalid points of view until they are blue in the face.
I just don't get it. I escape unscathed, so long ago. What is EBStop doing to its employees now, to poison your minds to this degree? I'd really, really like to know.
You're blanketing all EBG and GS employees into one category. It's not a particularly difficult job to get. Chances are that they hire retards. Just like every company! Imagine that. So basically, shut up.
I am right and you are wrong. That's how it works right? Yeah, yeah.
Don't know what you apply to, but a regualr and intense screening hiring process goes on in my workplace with facebook checking and all that.
If EBGames can't hire good staff with the balls to stand up for whats right, then by no means am I entitled to either respect you or the company you are employed for or stand for.
It's more the fact that I know that 'standing up for whats right,' as you put it, is just dumb idealistic shit. It's a minimum wage job. You think the company gives a shit? There are plenty of willing potential employees. This is all under the assumption once again that there is some kind of right and wrong here. Which there isn't really. Yeah, employees sometimes check out new games and then bring them back. It's about 1 in 100 games. I don't really stand behind that. I don't check out new games.
The issue at hand though is that gutted games may not be new. They are. Get over yourself.
They are not new. Especially when the Employee has the balls to take it home.
Gutting games is a most shameful practice (and deserves all the scorn it gets), but since only ebgamestop does it (shows you what other places think of it), I avoid it pretty easily, and they simply miss out on my significant (for an individual) amount of business. Also as a person in a position of influence of many friends, nobody else I know shops there either.
You do realize that, no matter how self-important you might be, you are nothing compared to the ammount of business that GameStop does.
I don't care? They don't affect me in any way save for the rare exclusive special edition.
No, that's fine.
I was just pointing out that the loss of your business doesn't have any noticable effect on them.
I understood that when I went through several back and forth emails with corporate about the policy. They would never say it outright, but I left it open that the only conclusion left was they they didnt feel the amount of business lost to policies like gutting (amoung other things) was significant enough to care about. They wouldnt deny that's the case so I took it as the truth.
It was clear they didnt care about customers like me, so understandably I dont care about businesses of theirs. It works out just fine as far as I'm concerned. Deep down I WISH ebgamestop could be "the gamers store" but in the interests of maximizing profits it's just not going to happen anytime soon.
Try telling ebay bidders (or any kind of public/marketplace) that and getting your ass handed to you when the winners file complaints and ebay and/or paypal find in favor of them.
Honestly, I'll never forget how some random register jockey in a Gamestop thread a year ago told me that it was my moral duty to preorder because by not preordering I was putting his job in jeopardy.
At that point in time I had a mild dislike for EBStop, but I think most of my resentment can now be traced back to that moment. Since then I've become keenly aware of this sense of entitlement that brainwashed EBStop employees all seem to hold and it's more or less reestablished and reaffirmed every time a thread like this crops up.
It's really, really obnoxious and instead of actually listening to reason or at least arguing WITH reason, EBStop employees just argue their insane, invalid points of view until they are blue in the face.
I just don't get it. I escape unscathed, so long ago. What is EBStop doing to its employees now, to poison your minds to this degree? I'd really, really like to know.
You're blanketing all EBG and GS employees into one category. It's not a particularly difficult job to get. Chances are that they hire retards. Just like every company! Imagine that. So basically, shut up.
I am right and you are wrong. That's how it works right? Yeah, yeah.
Don't know what you apply to, but a regualr and intense screening hiring process goes on in my workplace with facebook checking and all that.
If EBGames can't hire good staff with the balls to stand up for whats right, then by no means am I entitled to either respect you or the company you are employed for or stand for.
It's more the fact that I know that 'standing up for whats right,' as you put it, is just dumb idealistic shit. It's a minimum wage job. You think the company gives a shit? There are plenty of willing potential employees. This is all under the assumption once again that there is some kind of right and wrong here. Which there isn't really. Yeah, employees sometimes check out new games and then bring them back. It's about 1 in 100 games. I don't really stand behind that. I don't check out new games.
The issue at hand though is that gutted games may not be new. They are. Get over yourself.
They are not new. Especially when the Employee has the balls to take it home.
You missed the part where I addressed that. Those games are not new, sure. I have always believed that we should not label them as such. But the games that are merely gutted in order to put something on the shelf? Yeah, they are new.
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
edited November 2007
Evander, can I suggest you follow the advice of the limed text in your post?
Honestly, I'll never forget how some random register jockey in a Gamestop thread a year ago told me that it was my moral duty to preorder because by not preordering I was putting his job in jeopardy.
At that point in time I had a mild dislike for EBStop, but I think most of my resentment can now be traced back to that moment. Since then I've become keenly aware of this sense of entitlement that brainwashed EBStop employees all seem to hold and it's more or less reestablished and reaffirmed every time a thread like this crops up.
It's really, really obnoxious and instead of actually listening to reason or at least arguing WITH reason, EBStop employees just argue their insane, invalid points of view until they are blue in the face.
I just don't get it. I escape unscathed, so long ago. What is EBStop doing to its employees now, to poison your minds to this degree? I'd really, really like to know.
You're blanketing all EBG and GS employees into one category. It's not a particularly difficult job to get. Chances are that they hire retards. Just like every company! Imagine that. So basically, shut up.
I am right and you are wrong. That's how it works right? Yeah, yeah.
Don't know what you apply to, but a regualr and intense screening hiring process goes on in my workplace with facebook checking and all that.
If EBGames can't hire good staff with the balls to stand up for whats right, then by no means am I entitled to either respect you or the company you are employed for or stand for.
It's more the fact that I know that 'standing up for whats right,' as you put it, is just dumb idealistic shit. It's a minimum wage job. You think the company gives a shit? There are plenty of willing potential employees. This is all under the assumption once again that there is some kind of right and wrong here. Which there isn't really. Yeah, employees sometimes check out new games and then bring them back. It's about 1 in 100 games. I don't really stand behind that. I don't check out new games.
The issue at hand though is that gutted games may not be new. They are. Get over yourself.
They are not new. Especially when the Employee has the balls to take it home.
You missed the part where I addressed that. Those games are not new, sure. I have always believed that we should not label them as such. But the games that are merely gutted in order to put something on the shelf? Yeah, they are new.
Still missing the point, EB Defender, that once you gut a game its not new anymore cause you put all this werid and shitty stickers on it. You ruin the case and you expect it to be new? HA!
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Drez, I'm right about that crush, aren't I?
Oh get off your fucking horse. $50 isn't going to raise anybody up to middle-class American level.
This is the first valid point made in this thread.
I would say that, if he really cares about it, he should research the store and their practises before hand.
And, regardless, if the product itself is absolutely identical, I don't see where he has been mislead about what he is buying.
It's awesome that you keep reaffirming the fact that Gamestop acts solely out of selfish self-interest, even aesthetic decisions like this one.
I hope you understand that this is largely why people hate Gamestop.
To all the people saying that the solution is to not shop there, well sorry but that doesn't cut it for me. My solution is for everyone to stop shopping there and for the entire company and their entire method of doing business to go bankrupt.
I cannot stress enough that I am not exaggerating.
Insofar that I'd like to crush you, maybe.
Oh well. I fucking hate my job.
Despite what Evander would have us believe, $50-60 may not be the boon the world economy is waiting for, but it is still a lot of money for a lot of people. And when a person plops down $60 for a product, it's not unreasonable to expect that product to be in the best condition possible. Gutted is not the best condition possible.
Since when?
A store SHOULD NOT cheat their customers, but consumers need to be aware of what they are buying as well.
GameStop's policies are not secret. They should not be to blame if some one didn't feel like reading them.
The only issue is when there is intent to decieve.
Cheat them out of their...plastic wrapping? I think the distinction you guys are making is the difference between 'new' and 'fresh out of the shipping package.' Which is just silly. It's not cheating anyone out of anything. Furthermore, if it still bothers you then JUST DONT BUY GUTTED GAMES. FOR THE BILLIONTH TIME.
You do realize that, no matter how self-important you might be, you are nothing compared to the ammount of business that GameStop does.
Frankly, EG Defender Brigade is hopelesss as it can get. A Game played doesn't make it new anymore just like a virgin having sex isn't a virgin anymore. There either should be a three tiered pricing or you know, EB employee should just buy the damn game and if they can't then too bad.
Haha, I want you to be aware of how delusional you sound.
At that point in time I had a mild dislike for EBStop, but I think most of my resentment can now be traced back to that moment. Since then I've become keenly aware of this sense of entitlement that brainwashed EBStop employees all seem to hold and it's more or less reestablished and reaffirmed every time a thread like this crops up.
It's really, really obnoxious and instead of actually listening to reason or at least arguing WITH reason, EBStop employees just argue their insane, invalid points of view until they are blue in the face.
I just don't get it. I escaped unscathed, so long ago. What is EBStop doing to its employees now, to poison your minds to this degree? I'd really, really like to know.
KA, the hole in the center of the disc ISN'T for that.
You're blanketing all EBG and GS employees into one category. It's not a particularly difficult job to get. Chances are that they hire retards. Just like every company! Imagine that. So basically, shut up.
I am right and you are wrong. That's how it works right? Yeah, yeah.
Oh ha, ha. How about a little furry jokes that you usually resort to.
Or how about you enlighten us about your economics and your fucking blindness to anything EBGames does. Do you feel good screwing the customer and laughing behind their back calling them idiots?
Don't know what you apply to, but a regualr and intense screening hiring process goes on in my workplace with facebook checking and all that.
If EBGames can't hire good staff with the balls to stand up for whats right, then by no means am I entitled to either respect you or the company you are employed for or stand for.
No, I am right and YOU are wrong. It doesn't work in reverse, sorry.
And there are some decent GS/EBG employees. The only one I can think of on this forum, offhand, is Kami.
It's hard not to develop a bias when every single person you meet that works for the company exudes the same unintelligent, brainwashed lack of logic and sense of entitlement. So, cry me a river while I go ahead and keep my seemingly-valid bias.
?? They tried to sell me an unsealed product as new. I won't buy that shit. And there damn well gonna know I won't buy that shit. If you don't say anything, how do you expect them to know what your complaint is?
Are you affronted by the idea that I'd actually have the gall to complain about a store policy I don't like? Seriously?
I've written an employee up for an attitude not dissimilar to the one that one gave you.
And you're using words like insane. Good lord.
We're not fucking wal-mart. We don't have giant ass glass cases with old ladies standing around waiting to open them.
We're not fucking FYE. We actually have a lot of games, not 3 rows.
99% of the fucking games we sell are shrink wrapped. The ones that aren't, the customers are presented with a choice at that point. It's not subversive. It's just unlike other retailers, which apparently bothers the everloving shit out of you.
Different business model, different tactics, different policies.
Why is it that outside of your typical customer complaints that you hear about every business on the internet, these forums are the only place I see these rants.
Chill the fuck out.
I don't care? They don't affect me in any way save for the rare exclusive special edition.
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I bought Assassin's Creed from Best Buy because it was sealed and in a glass security case.
The issue at hand though is that gutted games may not be new. They are. Get over yourself.
No, that's fine.
I was just pointing out that the loss of your business doesn't have any noticable effect on them.
It's not a matter of getting over ourselves. It's a matter of educating you on the fact that gutted games are not new. It's sad that you are resistant to being educated, but hopefully the brick wall you've developed around that thing you call a brain will crumble one day and the light of truth will shine through.
That was one of the most completely hypocritical statements I've ever seen.
'If you don't like it, don't shop there'
'I don't like it, so I don't shop there and convince my friends not to'
'Oh? It doesn't matter because you're not important.'
Exactly what I'm talking about. They left and went to best buy. power to the players lol.
I apologize. Evander is insane. Others may or may not be. I'm seeing all of this through Evander eyes.
They are not new. Especially when the Employee has the balls to take it home.
I understood that when I went through several back and forth emails with corporate about the policy. They would never say it outright, but I left it open that the only conclusion left was they they didnt feel the amount of business lost to policies like gutting (amoung other things) was significant enough to care about. They wouldnt deny that's the case so I took it as the truth.
It was clear they didnt care about customers like me, so understandably I dont care about businesses of theirs. It works out just fine as far as I'm concerned. Deep down I WISH ebgamestop could be "the gamers store" but in the interests of maximizing profits it's just not going to happen anytime soon.
Try telling ebay bidders (or any kind of public/marketplace) that and getting your ass handed to you when the winners file complaints and ebay and/or paypal find in favor of them.
You missed the part where I addressed that. Those games are not new, sure. I have always believed that we should not label them as such. But the games that are merely gutted in order to put something on the shelf? Yeah, they are new.
Still missing the point, EB Defender, that once you gut a game its not new anymore cause you put all this werid and shitty stickers on it. You ruin the case and you expect it to be new? HA!