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What obscure 360 games are good?

poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
edited November 2007 in Games and Technology
I'm buying a 360 next week. Of course, I know about all the big titles, the Halos and Creeds, and older biggies like Gears of War and Viva Pinata.

What I was wondering is are there any less famous titles which are particularly good, especially the Live/Arcade/DLC stuff like Geometry Wars? It's much harder to learn about which of these are good.

I'm pretty open-minded, but I usually like RPGs, non-real-world FPSs, Strategy, Beat-em-ups, Arcade Racers (e.g. Burnout). I definitely do like other genres if the game is good or original.

Any ideas?

I figure I could take a bear.
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    ScottyScotty Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    OBLIVION
    Make sure you buy the one that comes with the expansion packs. SO many hours of awesome gameplay.:^:

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Oblivion isn't exactly what I'd call obscure. In fact, I'm pretty sure it is far from it.

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    CaspianXCaspianX Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    As far as full releases go, Earth Defense Force 2017 is a game that flew under almost everyone's radar, looks really, really stupid, but is an absolute blast to play.

    As far as obscure XBLA stuff goes, I'd recommend Catan, an excellent electronic version of an incredible board game, as well as the recently-released Switchball, which may be "another ball-rolling game", but it also happens to be quite possibly the best ball-rolling game ever made.

    And if you really consider Puzzle Quest, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Pac-Man: Championship Edition and Zuma obscure (they're probably not, but they're nowhere near as high-profile as Halo 3), those are also must-haves.

    Also, I don't care how un-obscure it is - you need to own Oblivion.

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    LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I'm not sure what counts as an obscure 360 game (Sneak King? Earth Defense Force?), but my two suggestions would be Condemned (if you're a survival horror fan) and Dead Rising (if you're a beat-em-up fan, or just think zombies are awesome).

    Both should be quite cheap by now, too.

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    DodgeBlanDodgeBlan PSN: dodgeblanRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Have you heard of Halo 3?

    The series has been around for awhile, but its only just started getting attention.

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    CaspianXCaspianX Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Lawndart wrote: »
    I'm not sure what counts as an obscure 360 game (Sneak King? Earth Defense Force?), but my two suggestions would be Condemned (if you're a survival horror fan) and Dead Rising (if you're a beat-em-up fan, or just think zombies are awesome).

    Both should be quite cheap by now, too.

    Oh yeah. Forgot about Condemned. That's a good recommendation too.

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    LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    CaspianX wrote: »
    As far as full releases go, Earth Defense Force 2017 is a game that flew under almost everyone's radar, looks really, really stupid, but is an absolute blast to play.

    I was gonna come in and recommend this as soon as I saw the title. I guess it counts as obscure, but it's just amazingly awesome. It's deceptive because for all intents and purposes it should be shovelware -- mediocre graphics, terrible clipping, shoddy VA work -- but the developers just didn't bother with production values because the game is so freaking badass in that campy B-movie, Starship Troopers way. Mowing down thousands of giant bugs and killer robots never gets old.

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    fragglefartfragglefart Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Project Sylpheed is an interesting Jap space shooter, hardly got noticed when it was released.

    The demo put some people off - it was pretty confusing, and I heard people complaining about the controls.

    I got the full game on the cheap, and I really enjoyed playing it.

    Also, on Live Arcade - Heavy Weapon is utterly awesome in 4 player. And full of winsauce in general.

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    LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Wartech aka "Senko No Ronde" is a mashup between a Shmup and a Fighting game, is pretty cheap now, and it one of the main reasons I want to get a 360.

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    mntorankusumntorankusu I'm not sure how to use this thing.... Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Project Sylpheed is an interesting Jap space shooter, hardly got noticed when it was released.

    I almost mentioned this, but I only played the demo on the marketplace so I can't really say much about it.

    I think the demo kicked a pretty decent amount of ass, though. Fun, and it's $30 now.

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    augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    If you count BC, Unreal Championship 2 is awesome.

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    ScottyScotty Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Henroid wrote: »
    Oblivion isn't exactly what I'd call obscure. In fact, I'm pretty sure it is far from it.

    My mistake...sorry, been very short-minded lately. Carry on.

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    mntorankusumntorankusu I'm not sure how to use this thing.... Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Scotty wrote: »
    OBLIVION
    Make sure you buy the one that comes with the expansion packs. SO many hours of awesome gameplay.:^:

    Since you mentioned it, I bought Oblivion the other day, but I haven't played it yet (thanks, Rock Band!). Does the Platinum Hits version include the expansion packs? I know the full-priced "Game of the Year" edition did, and this one still says Game of the Year on the front, but I don't know. It doesn't say anything about it on the packaging.

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    augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Scotty wrote: »
    OBLIVION
    Make sure you buy the one that comes with the expansion packs. SO many hours of awesome gameplay.:^:

    Since you mentioned it, I bought Oblivion the other day, but I haven't played it yet (thanks, Rock Band!). Does the Platinum Hits version include the expansion packs? I know the full-priced "Game of the Year" edition did, and this one still says Game of the Year on the front, but I don't know. It doesn't say anything about it on the packaging.

    Nope.

    I'm pretty sure the saves are compatible if you ever get the real GotY version though.

    EDIT: Wait, I was thinking of Morrowind. Nevermind.

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    acidlacedpenguinacidlacedpenguin Institutionalized Safe in jail.Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    LewieP wrote: »
    Wartech aka "Senko No Ronde" is a mashup between a Shmup and a Fighting game, is pretty cheap now, and it one of the main reasons I want to get a 360.

    THIS. its weird in that it kind of sucks superficially, seemingly low production values and character stories that make absolutely no sense, but its quite deep and entertaining, especially for the price I paid. It's definitely part of my reason for building an arcade stick, so there's gotta be something there if its motivating me to do something. . .

    I purchased a couple 360 games brand new on ebay, saw this in one guy's "other auctions" bought it now for $5, one of the better $5 I spent on a game.

    this doesn't count as obscure, but I also got "Just Cause" that day for $10 and it has been a blast, it's like a 3rd world mash up of GTA and Mercenaries which is all kinds of win.

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    -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    LewieP wrote: »
    Wartech aka "Senko No Ronde" is a mashup between a Shmup and a Fighting game, is pretty cheap now, and it one of the main reasons I want to get a 360.

    I wish. It's about $15 more expensive than every other 360 game here. Otherwhise I probably would have picked it up.

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    s3rial ones3rial one Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    -SPI- wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    Wartech aka "Senko No Ronde" is a mashup between a Shmup and a Fighting game, is pretty cheap now, and it one of the main reasons I want to get a 360.

    I wish. It's about $15 more expensive than every other 360 game here. Otherwhise I probably would have picked it up.
    My local Best Buy has it for $30.

    For anyone interested, here's Gametrailers' review. Not for me, but interesting.

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    ChewyWafflesChewyWaffles Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Condemned is the most underrated game on the 360. Still one of my favorite single-player experiences on that console to date.

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    acidlacedpenguinacidlacedpenguin Institutionalized Safe in jail.Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I'll probably get crucified for saying this but Amped 3 was a whole lot of win. Who knew a story based snow boarding game would actually be somewhat enjoyable?

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    corin7corin7 San Diego, CARegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Another vote for Condemned and I have to throw out The Darkness again. I will put it in every 360 thread until the end of time because quite simply I find it to be one of the best games ever made.

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    NorayNoray Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    The Darkness is indeed very, very good. Awesome story and a real visceral game. I never get tired of impaling fools on my demon arm. Also, and this sounds silly, but I love how, when you squeeze the trigger halfway on the controller, Jackie squeezes the trigger halfway on the gun, without firing it <3

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    corin7corin7 San Diego, CARegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Noray wrote: »
    The Darkness is indeed very, very good. Awesome story and a real visceral game. I never get tired of impaling fools on my demon arm. Also, and this sounds silly, but I love how, when you squeeze the trigger halfway on the controller, Jackie squeezes the trigger halfway on the gun, without firing it <3

    Massive Darkness spoilers ahead, do not read if you have not played it.

    The moment when they kill your girlfriend and then you committ suicide? Yeah I have never felt emotion like that in a game. Unprecedented I say, wonderful. Also for some reason I found helping out the harmonica player in the subway to be one of the most rewarding side quests of all time. The intro? Shit fucking hot.

    Yeah I could go on forever. I love how the controls feel a little strange in the beginning but by the end when you have mastered them and you have all your powers you feel like a goddamn god.

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    The_LightbringerThe_Lightbringer Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Is Overlord considered obscure?

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    FireWeaselFireWeasel Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    corin7 wrote: »
    Noray wrote: »
    The Darkness is indeed very, very good. Awesome story and a real visceral game. I never get tired of impaling fools on my demon arm. Also, and this sounds silly, but I love how, when you squeeze the trigger halfway on the controller, Jackie squeezes the trigger halfway on the gun, without firing it <3

    Massive Darkness spoilers ahead, do not read if you have not played it.

    The moment when they kill your girlfriend and then you committ suicide? Yeah I have never felt emotion like that in a game. Unprecedented I say, wonderful. Also for some reason I found helping out the harmonica player in the subway to be one of the most rewarding side quests of all time. The intro? Shit fucking hot.

    Yeah I could go on forever. I love how the controls feel a little strange in the beginning but by the end when you have mastered them and you have all your powers you feel like a goddamn god.

    HELL yes. I think I loved The Darkness as much as I loved Bioshock, to be honest, and that's saying a lot. Plus, find me another game where you can watch the full 2 hours of To Kill a Mockingbird on an in-game TV.
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    CaspianX wrote: »
    As far as full releases go, Earth Defense Force 2017 is a game that flew under almost everyone's radar, looks really, really stupid, but is an absolute blast to play.

    I was gonna come in and recommend this as soon as I saw the title. I guess it counts as obscure, but it's just amazingly awesome. It's deceptive because for all intents and purposes it should be shovelware -- mediocre graphics, terrible clipping, shoddy VA work -- but the developers just didn't bother with production values because the game is so freaking badass in that campy B-movie, Starship Troopers way. Mowing down thousands of giant bugs and killer robots never gets old.

    I specifically came in this thread to say JUST this.

    Also, Condemned, which has already been mentioned. All great games, though all shooty-shoot types, so if you're not into that, then you're hosed.

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    ToyDToyD Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I'd call overlord obscure. I enjoyed it.

    My contribution is Viva Pinata. Never got the press it really deserved. A fun game even though it's marketed "at kids."

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    JCRooksJCRooks Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    poshniallo wrote: »
    I'm buying a 360 next week. Of course, I know about all the big titles, the Halos and Creeds, and older biggies like Gears of War and Viva Pinata.

    What I was wondering is are there any less famous titles which are particularly good, especially the Live/Arcade/DLC stuff like Geometry Wars? It's much harder to learn about which of these are good.

    I'm pretty open-minded, but I usually like RPGs, non-real-world FPSs, Strategy, Beat-em-ups, Arcade Racers (e.g. Burnout). I definitely do like other genres if the game is good or original.

    Any ideas?

    For some reason, I'm partial to Enchanted Arms, even though a lot of people dissed on it for not being as good as Oblivion or FFXII. I liked how the battle system was vastly different than most other RPGs that I've played.

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    LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    LewieP wrote: »
    Wartech aka "Senko No Ronde" is a mashup between a Shmup and a Fighting game, is pretty cheap now, and it one of the main reasons I want to get a 360.

    THIS. its weird in that it kind of sucks superficially, seemingly low production values and character stories that make absolutely no sense, but its quite deep and entertaining, especially for the price I paid. It's definitely part of my reason for building an arcade stick, so there's gotta be something there if its motivating me to do something.

    I rented WarTech and thought it was terrible -- and I love shmups. $10 is still $10 too much, IMO. If you haven't played it, I'd reserve your frothing demand until you try it out.

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    StupornautStupornaut Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I'll probably get crucified for saying this but Amped 3 was a whole lot of win. Who knew a story based snow boarding game would actually be somewhat enjoyable?

    That was actually one of my favorite launch titles. Didn't have a ton of replay value for me at the time, but I thought the bizarre cutscenes were great, and I have this weird urge now to rebuy it.

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    Jurassic SpaceprancerJurassic Spaceprancer Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I don't know how obscure everyone considers them, but as far as games that don't sound like Day-glow 3 and the like, I'd recommend:

    Dead Rising
    Condemned
    (might be overly obvious and mainstream, but) Bioshock
    Overlord
    The Darkness
    (if you enjoy mindless action) Crackdown
    (and I haven't played it yet, but I just bought and am really excited for) Eternal Sonata

    And on the Live Arcade side, you should check out the demos for:

    Castlevania
    Catan
    Alien Hominid
    Puzzle Quest
    Puzzle Fighter
    Cloning Clyde
    (and maaaaaaaybe) Roboblitz

    Those are just games I can vouch for right now. People have suggested some other good choices. Now I want to check out Earth Defense Force, damn it.

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    Duchess ProzacDuchess Prozac Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Lunker wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    Wartech aka "Senko No Ronde" is a mashup between a Shmup and a Fighting game, is pretty cheap now, and it one of the main reasons I want to get a 360.

    THIS. its weird in that it kind of sucks superficially, seemingly low production values and character stories that make absolutely no sense, but its quite deep and entertaining, especially for the price I paid. It's definitely part of my reason for building an arcade stick, so there's gotta be something there if its motivating me to do something.

    I rented WarTech and thought it was terrible -- and I love shmups. $10 is still $10 too much, IMO. If you haven't played it, I'd reserve your frothing demand until you try it out.

    Add me as another person who thought Wartech was awful. I bought it after hearing good things about it and it sounded pretty cool, but after playing it it was just ridiculously shallow and about as fun as fun as getting salt poured into my eyes whilst a rhino anally raped me.

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    LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Space Giraffe on the XBLA

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    ben0207ben0207 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I'll probably get crucified for saying this but Amped 3 was a whole lot of win. Who knew a story based snow boarding game would actually be somewhat enjoyable?

    I thought I was the only person that liked Amped 3. Best snowboarding game ever - even the comedy doesn't fall flat on its face, like most comedy games do.

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    ChewyWafflesChewyWaffles Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I hated The Darkness. Felt like a rehashed shoters + tentacles tbh :(

    I finished it, but only because I wanted to get the stupid thing back to Gamefly.

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    Forever ZefiroForever Zefiro cloaked in the midnight glory of an event horizonRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    WarTech seemed like it could be good in theory, but when I played it, I thought it was sucky

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I tried the demo of The Darkness, and it felt generic and sloppy, compared to the much smoother controls of other shooter games.

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    bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I'll third or fourth or whatever Earth Defense Force 2017. Many, many hours of awesome within. Especially in co-op.

    Also Pac-Man Championship Edition. It's like Pac-Man but prettier and more fun.

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    JazzJazz Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Battlestations Midway tends to go forgotten even in these threads. It's a blast. Submarines, battleships and planes, all at the same time, and kick-ass multiplayer.

    PGR4 isn't exactly obscure, but apparently it's selling like absolute crap, which is a terrible shame. It's perhaps the best not-exactly-100%-realistic racing game the system offers. For realism, of course, Forza 2 is a requirement. Or if open-world driving appeals, Test Drive Unlimited is so good it's insane - it's literally like Oblivion with cars.

    And on XBLA, you owe it to yourself to check out Catan and Carcassonne. Both stellar conversions of excellent board games.

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    Sci-Fi WasabiSci-Fi Wasabi Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Jazz is right, Carcassonne is like the most addictive XBLA game ever. I wrote it off as one of those "complicated german games" but it is super easy to learn and hard to master. That is a must-have.

    Beautiful Katamari is a great entry point into the series and has a ton of content. Fans of the series wrote it off as "another katamari game" but if it is your first time you will enjoy it for sure.

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    XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Earth Defence Force 2017.

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    NorayNoray Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    I tried the demo of The Darkness, and it felt generic and sloppy, compared to the much smoother controls of other shooter games.

    Yeah I played the demo before I played the actual game, and I have to say that the demo is a terrible indication of the actual game. It really is much better than the demo lets on. A lot of that is because the story is really very, very good, and the demo doesn't really have any story in it.

    I really, really like it. Almost as good as Bioshock, imo. Agreeing with that massive Darkness spoiler earlier on, that was one of the most intensely emotional moments of any game, ever. Seriously, if you can find it for 20-30 bucks (should be easy), give it a go, even if the demo didn't do much for you.

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