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Quick Vista Question...
DarkWarrior
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Ok I want to defrag one drive in Vista. I've had to ask this before because the default defrag as far as I can see is terrible, at least on user choice. So last time I asked, someone recommended using cmd and the defrag command.
But since yesterday, it is saying that I need to use an administrator command prompt before running the program. Now the only thing I changed yesterday was the active install control function where I reactivated it. But I don't see how that could cause this problem. I'm also the only account on this computer and am an administrator.
So what am I doing wrong guys?
But since yesterday, it is saying that I need to use an administrator command prompt before running the program. Now the only thing I changed yesterday was the active install control function where I reactivated it. But I don't see how that could cause this problem. I'm also the only account on this computer and am an administrator.
So what am I doing wrong guys?
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Anyways, I think when you go to open up the command prompt, right click it and run as administrator? Maybe.
c:\windows\system32\cmd.exe
in explorer
b) when you go to the start menu you should be able to type stuff in and it searches through your programs and files. Just type in cmd and it will come up as a clickable icon.
When I do that I get administrator privileges.
Learn something new everyday
No, that's bad, it's there to protect you. If you really feel that way though you can disable UAC, but it's not recommended.
edit: Also just do the search thing as mentioned before. From the search box in the start button you can type cmd and it will show up then just right click run as administrator.
I think it's because we have UAC off, and you have it on. I just flat out don't see the point of UAC though. I tried turning it on a while back but was still seeing the prompt several times a day.
I got a virus in the past few days and figured it was because I didn't have UAC and sometihng managed to install without my permission. I might just turn it off.
I guess instead of making a new topic though...
Does anyone know how to tell if wininit.exe is legitimate or not? I've never noticed it before but end-tasking it crashes the computer to a memory dump and restart. A search labels a lot of them as trojans and its only using 200K which is suspicious for any windows vista related thing.
What are you doing that's triggering the prompt? I see it once every few days, at most, between three machines.
DarkWarrior; a quick search of MS.com shows that older versions of Windows had wininit.exe, but it doesn't seem to be a regular process in Vista. I'm no tech, though, so perhaps checking an online virus scanner? MS Onecare has one (that's really slow) and my wife uses a TrendMicro free scanner.
For reference, it does look like it's a regular part of Vista. I don't see it in the task manager though.
winrar, fraps, x-fire would all trigger it everytime I load them up. Lots of little things would just set it off like adding and removing programs or messing around in the control panel.
I mean, at the moment I can see zero gain in turning it on, and less hastle with it off.
I guess its real then. Though I don't get why it crashes the computer if I end-task it. Oh well. Thanks for your help Morskittar
UAC is basically the catch-all for the tools that catch any programs from running without your permission. Vista will not let any programs auto-run or connect to the internet without your express permission, every time. It would be nice to override this on a case-by-case basis though.
Also, I've stopped using Xfire because of the prompts. I think it has to do with the fact it has a built-in downloader running in the background.
DarkWarrior- it doesn't necessarily mean it's real, especially if it's doing things without your permission (deleting the recycle bin...). As a core process, though, I'd imagine it's not strange for it to be necessary for Windows' operation, and shut stuff down if it's off.
Nah the recycle bin is fine. Least I think it is. *Checks* Yep, its there. I'll keep an eye on it but neitehr defender nor avg can find anything particularly wrong with it. I did have some trojans which seem to have been taken care of, last time I download a rared file
And UAC sounds like a bitch, im just gonna turn it back off.
EDIT: Does anyone else have a problem with Nvidia drivers crashing like a drunken britney spears sometimes?
Also, I'd say if you don't have a ton of programs that violate Vista's paranoid do-not-run-as-admin requirements, run UAC. Other than dropping regular use of Xfire, I haven't seen adverse effects, and I *really* like knowing that nothing is running unless I told it to. I'm pretty obsessive about keeping a clean, spyware-free machine though. Booting in 30 seconds and being able to stay running for months at a time is worth it, to me.
In all honesty, I'd rather fly "blind" and go to OS X's stability, rather than go back to XP at this point.
I see your point but there's also the flipside. Just because I'm on an admin account why do I want to grant minesweeper, word, notepad, etc full access to everything on my computer?
Linux users do a similar thing, nobody runs as root, which is basically what you want to do. Tthough linux isn't quite as annoying since you usually do things through the command line.
Exactly. Welcome to the world of user and admin (Superuser) elevation. You're going to have to get used to it as Windows was the last OS to add this kind of security.
As was already said, you never want to run as root 100% of the time. Account elevation is the best thing to happen to Windows security.
In that case though, wouldn't it be sensible to let you allow exceptions that will always run as admin?
Nothing, unless it's system critical, should run as root. Nothing. Not even the graphics driver runs as root in Vista.
Developers have to change to conform to this rule, not us. That's why you can get a lot of UAC pop-ups with specific apps, because they require system level access. Which they shouldn't even be allowed to do.
Right now we're at the crossroads of this change, we can hope that we'll get passed it as smoothly as possible.
You are trying to breathe, Allow or Deny?
I knew that somethings are tied to it being enabled but I can't stand it chirping up every time I click my mouse.
How do I make it shut it's ugly mouth without having my machine bend over for malware?
Though not advisable, a power-user-override applied on a per-application or service basis would have shored up a lot. Or just more generally configurable components to UAC and security in general.
Of course, then people would set it up to avoid the annoyance, and MS would get bad press about Vista being less secure than expected.
But in fairness, some games/apps are incredibly old and expecting them to update said game/app for Vista is silly, so with those things you need to live with it.
I'm not saying UAC is perfect by any means, people just need to stop with the retarded exaggerating or at least post anecdotal evidence for those of us who don't gleefully cheer on anything negative about Microsoft.
It mostly came when I was setting the system up and installing about 30 programs that I use on a fairly regular basis, after the first 5 installs I decided to cut that unneeded step from my task of bringing my new system up to where I wanted it. Then to add that I would have to click yes I want to run this for some of my apps was just aggravating. Can't I whitelist some apps that I run regularly so I don't have to see UAC every time it loads?
I also don't know if it's just hype and me reading too much anti-Vista propaganda but Vista just feels like it's bloated. My XP system despite much leaner system specs loaded faster and just seemed to run quicker. I don't know if there is any tweaking I can do with it to help with this.
I have a feeling it's going to take developers a while to get caught up with this, too.
Which is going to suck, but end users will benefit in the long run.