[LET'S MAKE] "Desert Bus 3D" for Child's Play!

rayofash

Put in landscape and weather, when it rains the bus moves to the right slightly more than usual. Online scoreboard is a must. A map might be okay, but the point of the game is boring realism so make it that when you open the map it takes up the whole screen or looks away slightly so you can't see where you're driving.

halkun wrote: »

I don't have torque in front of me, but I my need to have a hightmap. Basicly a road going verticly from end to end.. I need to look at the scale.

Just find a geological survey map of the area the game takes place in.

DiannaoChong

Orikaeshigitae wrote: »

a radio that only plays christmas carols performed by fictional characters like alvin and the chipmunks or the transfomers

DOGS BARKING JINGLE BELLS ON LOOP.

halkun

rayofash wrote: »

Put in landscape and weather, when it rains the bus moves to the right slightly more than usual. Online scoreboard is a must. A map might be okay, but the point of the game is boring realism so make it that when you open the map it takes up the whole screen or looks away slightly so you can't see where you're driving.

halkun wrote: »

I don't have torque in front of me, but I my need to have a hightmap. Basicly a road going verticly from end to end.. I need to look at the scale.

Just find a geological survey map of the area the game takes place in.

Torque can only have a map that is a particular size. When you get to the edge, it "wraps" to the other side.

I don't recall the unit scale right now

rayofash

halkun wrote: »

rayofash wrote: »

Put in landscape and weather, when it rains the bus moves to the right slightly more than usual. Online scoreboard is a must. A map might be okay, but the point of the game is boring realism so make it that when you open the map it takes up the whole screen or looks away slightly so you can't see where you're driving.

halkun wrote: »

I don't have torque in front of me, but I my need to have a hightmap. Basicly a road going verticly from end to end.. I need to look at the scale.

Just find a geological survey map of the area the game takes place in.

Torque can only have a map that is a particular size. When you get to the edge, it "wraps" to the other side.

I don't recall the unit scale right now

Awesome, then just randomly generate a height map in terragen.

Edit: There's something about scale here, but I don't know if it helps: http://members.cox.net/midian/gamedesign/tgeworld.htm

Edit: Here's an image of Tuscon just to give you an idea of the hills: http://geology.com/satellite/cities/tucson-satellite-image.shtml

Arrath

Looking in my little Torque book of secrets:

A default size map (squareSize set to 8 in the map's MIS file) is 65,536 world units along its side. 1 WU is equal to one scaled inch.

Book wrote:

65,536 inches/12 inches = 5,461.33 feet
1 mile = 5,280 feet
5,461.33 feet/5,280 feet to a mile = 1.034 miles

Raslin

Arrath wrote: »

Looking in my little Torque book of secrets:

A default size map (squareSize set to 8 in the map's MIS file) is 65,536 world units along its side. 1 WU is equal to one scaled inch.

Book wrote:

65,536 inches/12 inches = 5,461.33 feet
1 mile = 5,280 feet
5,461.33 feet/5,280 feet to a mile = 1.034 miles

Couldnt you shrink everything but the map by 360x?

halkun

I'll just make the road stright I think. Just like in the game. (I'm still out)

Kazhiim

Raslin wrote: »

Arrath wrote: »

Looking in my little Torque book of secrets:

A default size map (squareSize set to 8 in the map's MIS file) is 65,536 world units along its side. 1 WU is equal to one scaled inch.

Book wrote:

65,536 inches/12 inches = 5,461.33 feet
1 mile = 5,280 feet
5,461.33 feet/5,280 feet to a mile = 1.034 miles

Couldnt you shrink everything but the map by 360x?

the terrain resolution would be much lower, though, leading to more jagged changes in elevation.

lowlylowlycook

A radio that only plays the LOTR song by Leonard Nimoy.

Also maybe you could have the bus stop at fast food restaurants and have to wait for all your passengers to return.

GSM

SNES wrote: »

GSM wrote: »

Make it a multiplayer mod.

Everybody else just rides in the bus.

And tries to not fall asleep.

Oh god this. Please this.

With realistic physics and a melee combat system.

The driver is fair game.

If halkun makes the scenery and bus models available, it would probably be easy for somebody to make a source map from it, where everybody spawns in the bus, with "vehicle" controls for the driver's seat, that actually just move the map below the bus.

It'd be more of an art project than anything.

Gim

You're my hero, halkun

Add flies and other insects that get stuck on the windshield. If you forget to spray water first, they just smear the glass even worse.

Raslin

Kazhiim wrote: »

Raslin wrote: »

Arrath wrote: »

Looking in my little Torque book of secrets:

A default size map (squareSize set to 8 in the map's MIS file) is 65,536 world units along its side. 1 WU is equal to one scaled inch.

Book wrote:

65,536 inches/12 inches = 5,461.33 feet
1 mile = 5,280 feet
5,461.33 feet/5,280 feet to a mile = 1.034 miles

Couldnt you shrink everything but the map by 360x?

the terrain resolution would be much lower, though, leading to more jagged changes in elevation.

Then dont change elevation :P

nefffffffffff

make it so that once you hit the 45 mpg speed limit, if you then descend below 30 the bus blows up and you have to start over. also use lots of sound clips from speed. whats her name will be non-killable npc along with that token minority guy.

EDIT: Sandra Bullock!!!!

SNES

Make it possible to go over the 45 mph speed limit so you can have epic car chases with the police.

Couscous

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penn_&_Teller's_Smoke_and_Mirrors
There should be an impossible mode where you immediately die.

Gim

At some point about halfway through the trip, add a fork in the road. If they choose the correct path, they will arrive in Las Vegas. If they choose incorrectly, they end up in Barstow and end up living there. They would receive -1 points.

mausmalone

halkun wrote: »

Sorry, allow me to eloborate...

From the Wiki:

Desert Bus is the best known minigame in the package, and was a featured part of Electronic Gaming Monthly's preview. The objective of the game is to drive a bus from Tucson, Arizona to Las Vegas, Nevada in real time at a maximum speed of 45mph, a feat that would take the player 8 hours of continuous play to complete, as the game cannot be paused.

The bus contains no passengers, and there is no scenery or other cars on the road. The bus veers to the right slightly; as a result, it is impossible to tape down a button to go do something else and have the game end properly. If the bus veers off the road it will stall and be towed back to Tucson, also in real time. If the player makes it to Las Vegas, they will score exactly one point.

Having the Torque engine will allow me to make a stand-alone game. I only have the model in work for now. (I still have to put in the seats) after that I have to rig the bus so the wheels turn. Now I have the bus in parts, and I can make small cosmetic changes.

The engine will allow me to make a "never ending road" but in 3D. I also can hook in an odomoter and spedometer (for what it's worth). Lighting and day/night effect work out of the box.

I was thinking of putting in an overhead map. I'll have to chose a "route" that doesn't go through Phoenix.

Maybe a "leader board", so I can keep track of high scores?

hah!

rayofash

Gim wrote: »

At some point about halfway through the trip, add a fork in the road with 2 signs, one sign always tells the truth and one always lies, they must find the correct path by asking ONE of them one and only one question.

Couscous

rayofash wrote: »

Gim wrote: »

At some point about halfway through the trip, add a fork in the road with 2 signs, one sign always tells the truth and one always lies, they must find the correct path by asking ONE of them one and only one question.

The correct choice will be to threaten to run them over if they don't tell you the correct path. You can run them over anyway even if they do give in.

wateyad

Gim wrote: »

You're my hero, halkun

Add flies and other insects that get stuck on the windshield. If you forget to spray water first, they just smear the glass even worse.

Funny thing. In the actual game, the journey takes about eight hours but about six hours in, a single fly hits the windscreen and remains there until you reach your destination. This feature should be retained in the 3D version.

DeepQantas

GSM wrote: »

Make it a multiplayer mod.

Everybody else just rides in the bus.

And tries to not fall asleep.

Think about it. A dedicated server co-op mode so you can switch drivers. :P

And the other players can actually look around inside.


Radio that's tuned to Something Awful's GBS FM is a plus.

Torgo

rayofash wrote: »

A map might be okay, but the point of the game is boring realism so make it that when you open the map it takes up the whole screen or looks away slightly so you can't see where you're driving

This is genius.

Crashmo

Wait you want to develop the most insanely tedious and boring game possible to give to sick children? Am I missing something?

DeepQantas

You are laboring under the mistaken assumption that we are, in fact, not evil.

SoaL

This thread was mentioned on the Desert Bus DriverCam!

Pheezer

halkun wrote: »

Ok, I have been inspired by LoadingReadyRun's Child's play marathon, I've decided to put my hat into the ring. During the first few hours someone mentioned that there should be a source version of Desert Bus. Because I have a Torque license, I've decided to make a 3D version of "Desert Bus" for everyone. (not the Source engine, but the Torque engine). I think I can make it before the end of the Child's play drive, and so if I'm able to pull it off, I'll "sell" it and donate the profits to Child's play.

Here's what I have so far.

What you have there is a transit bus. You want a highway bus. Look up MCI (Motor Coach Industries), they make the type of bus you want.

Squirminator2k

Six radio stations, all of which play varying different styles of horrible static.

One Thousand Cables

Squirminator2k wrote: »

Six radio stations, all of which play varying different styles of horrible static.

Or the most boring AM radio programming one could imagine.

Jammers

DrDizaster wrote: »

halkun wrote: »

Ok, I have been inspired by LoadingReadyRun's Child's play marathon, I've decided to put my hat into the ring. During the first few hours someone mentioned that there should be a source version of Desert Bus. Because I have a Torque license, I've decided to make a 3D version of "Desert Bus" for everyone. (not the Source engine, but the Torque engine). I think I can make it before the end of the Child's play drive, and so if I'm able to pull it off, I'll "sell" it and donate the profits to Child's play.

Here's what I have so far.

What you have there is a transit bus. You want a highway bus. Look up MCI (Motor Coach Industries), they make the type of bus you want.

Have both. One veers to the left, the other veers to the right. Master both to become the true King of the Road!

Pheezer

Jammers wrote: »

DrDizaster wrote: »

halkun wrote: »

Ok, I have been inspired by LoadingReadyRun's Child's play marathon, I've decided to put my hat into the ring. During the first few hours someone mentioned that there should be a source version of Desert Bus. Because I have a Torque license, I've decided to make a 3D version of "Desert Bus" for everyone. (not the Source engine, but the Torque engine). I think I can make it before the end of the Child's play drive, and so if I'm able to pull it off, I'll "sell" it and donate the profits to Child's play.

Here's what I have so far.

What you have there is a transit bus. You want a highway bus. Look up MCI (Motor Coach Industries), they make the type of bus you want.

Have both. One veers to the left, the other veers to the right. Master both to become the true King of the Road!

It would be more awesome if this were Dessert Bus 3D and you got to drive a parfait to Las Vegas.

Strifer

SoaL wrote: »

This thread was mentioned on the Desert Bus DriverCam!

I've been, uh, busy. Yeah. Other people said that Torque is the least player-friendly engine to use. I guess it would be perfect, then, for a Desert Bus 3D.

Also, I've managed to record Paul riding blindfolded.

Gim

You actually do have one other vehicle to model: the tow truck that takes you all the way back to Tucson in real time if you drive off the road.

AbsoluteZero

Your bus should be able to break down, too.

Lave II

Everything P&T do is golden. You should totally give them a copy. They'll Love you.

My 2 pence.

Any additions need to be in the same style of incredible dullness. If you have an animals or whatever on the side of the road. Make them turn up about once an hour.

Make playing MP3s require fiddling with the radio which makes you crash.

And so on.

Lave II

Torgo wrote: »

rayofash wrote: »

A map might be okay, but the point of the game is boring realism so make it that when you open the map it takes up the whole screen or looks away slightly so you can't see where you're driving

This is genius.

And have it be just a crumpled upside down map.

With no indication of where you are.

Pheezer

Lave II wrote: »

Torgo wrote: »

rayofash wrote: »

A map might be okay, but the point of the game is boring realism so make it that when you open the map it takes up the whole screen or looks away slightly so you can't see where you're driving

This is genius.

And have it be just a crumpled upside down map.

With no indication of where you are.

Definitely. You don't see a glowing dot showing position on a paper map.

rayofash

DrDizaster wrote: »

Lave II wrote: »

Torgo wrote: »

rayofash wrote: »

A map might be okay, but the point of the game is boring realism so make it that when you open the map it takes up the whole screen or looks away slightly so you can't see where you're driving

This is genius.

And have it be just a crumpled upside down map.

With no indication of where you are.

Definitely. You don't see a glowing dot showing position on a paper map.

Exactly, I meant to imply that. Peoples head would explode.

Gim

For the majority of the trip, have signs on the side of the road advertising a general store/"World's Largest ____!"/useless souvenirs type of place.

"Only 200 miles to Bob's Largest Plaster of Paris Kwanzaa Kinara and Souvenir Emporium!"

"Only 100 miles to Bob's Largest Plaster of Paris Kwanzaa Kinara and Souvenir Emporium!"

"Only 50 miles to Bob's Largest Plaster of Paris Kwanzaa Kinara and Souvenir Emporium!"

"Only 10 miles to Bob's Largest Plaster of Paris Kwanzaa Kinara and Souvenir Emporium!"

"Only 2 miles to Bob's Largest Plaster of Paris Kwanzaa Kinara and Souvenir Emporium!"

*dilapidated building on the side of the road*

"You have just gone past Bob's Largest Plaster of Paris Kwanzaa Kinara and Souvenir Emporium!"

Gosling

I think the route should be different. Tuscon to Las Vegas is for weenies. Real men go Bismarck to Houston.

SNES

Man, screw that.

Space Bus. Earth to Mars in real time.

Control your initial trajectory and hope to god you don't miss!