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[GAME ON]X3: Reunion

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  • JaramrJaramr Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So there was a update to the TC Developer Blog regarding Game starts and the like: http://x3tc.blogspot.com/

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  • DroolDrool Science! AustinRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So is this new X3 game an expansion or a whole new stand alone game? I've always had interest in the series, but never got into it because of the learning curve and what not.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Stand-alone, or so I'm told.


    What is the purpose of the "Docking Computer" upgrade? You're able to autopilot into the dock without any special upgrades, so I'm stumped.

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  • AyulinAyulin Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    You bind a key to it in options, and when you fly within 5km of a station, jab that key. Insta-dock.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So it's faster than the regular autodocking?

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  • SyngyneSyngyne Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So it's faster than the regular autodocking?
    It's instant. Once you get in range, you hit the button, and *poof*, you're docked.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited October 2008
    do you

    like need any kind of infrastructure to do the plot

    can i just do it in my "found" nova and not worry about much

    cos if so I might as well it gives you money right

    They typically give you a ship to use to prevent you using a pimped out ship to make it trivial

    the plot sucks

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  • SilpheedSilpheed Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    do you

    like need any kind of infrastructure to do the plot

    can i just do it in my "found" nova and not worry about much

    cos if so I might as well it gives you money right

    They typically give you a ship to use to prevent you using a pimped out ship to make it trivial

    the plot sucks
    The plot and missions was a lot better in X2, strangly enough but I guess that's to expect with the limited time Egosoft spent in development for X3.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited October 2008
    It's worth doing kinda because it's the quickest way by far to build your argon rep to the point where you can buy a TL, which is the most important ship purchase in the game.

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  • Dr SnofeldDr Snofeld Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    It's worth doing kinda because it's the quickest way by far to build your argon rep to the point where you can buy a TL, which is the most important ship purchase in the game.

    Every guide I've read has said that buying a TL is pointless, or does that only apply to X2? Aren't they only used to transport space stations?

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited October 2008
    Those guides are stupid. TLs are awesome. You are not a real man until you own a TL.

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  • GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Those guides are stupid. TLs are awesome. You are not a real man until you own a TL.

    Yeah, just like how you're not a real man until you've been caught doing an act which is illegal in most countries and ended up having one of your balls surgically removed because of severe biting. There's nothing wrong with it! Animals are our friends too!
    I like my fucked up sense of humour


    On a completely different side note, who's pre-ordered this or are y'all waiting for it to be released and waiting on others views and reviews?

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  • SilpheedSilpheed Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    TL's are goddamn great though. I love my Split Elephant, that doubles as a mobile carrier for all ships I capture.

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  • Dr SnofeldDr Snofeld Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Those guides are stupid. TLs are awesome. You are not a real man until you own a TL.

    Ohh, so it's one of those purchases. I see.

    Not that I ever got far enough in the game for that to apply. Never even got a single station.

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  • DartboyDartboy Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Real Men own carriers.

    And as far as preordering goes, I don't really see the point. I'm just going to get the Steam version when it's released, but it's not like Steam's going to run out or something.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Syngyne wrote: »
    So it's faster than the regular autodocking?
    It's instant. Once you get in range, you hit the button, and *poof*, you're docked.

    Doesn't seem to happen for ME... I get close to a station, hit shift-D, and then autopilot kicks in.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So, what do you guys like to do for your first station? I was thinking a Silicon Mine in Ore Belt, or maybe a Power Station someplace, or a Spacefuel station someplace with a customs patrol (so I can scan the poor bastards leaving my space-mooshine still and then arrest them myself).

    I have one UT going now, and I'm in my LX, at this point I just need to farm some cash for my first. For some reason my game has stupidly active Pirates though, I went into LaMoo... whatever... out in the boonies and got attacked by about 75 (I counted) pirates. It was asinine. Might have been related to the weirdly hostile Pirate Anarchy Port in the corner though.

    Where do you guys like to put the HQ? Other than the M7 and the free M6... what do you guys like to do after moving past a Nova Raider / LX?

    Edit: Holy cow, that blog post... I wonder if starting as a Khaak (or Xenon, if it's available) will still get you a campaign or something. That would be the ultimate game, something I want to try after beating X3:R or X3:TC's official storylines. You know, start as a Khaak, KOS to *everyone*, and play the whole "enemy of my enemy" thing to get yourself out of KOS, then build up a merchant empire.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited October 2008
    I wouldn't open a station until you have a fleet of UTs. Around then. Then set up an XL power complex in Elena's Fortune. Then put drug and booze factories around it. Lots and lots of drugs and booze.

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  • xzzyxzzy Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Find a good silicon asteroid and put a mine on it. There's one one zone "north" of Argon's main sector.

    The long term goal is to get a self-sufficient energy factory, which you can sell off, or eventually use to power your weapons factories.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    My current plan in game (read: Tonight as I watch Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow) is to...

    1. Get Satellites in Argon and Boron space for my UTs to find deals better.
    2. Repair my LX (It's still at 50% and will cost about 4 Million Credits to fix)
    3. Get another 4 UTs (I already have 1, but it's in a dinky little Argon runner)

    #2 is probably not as important, except I hate flying around at under 100 speed. Not a real issue as I can gank anything outside of a Xenon J or K that I run into.


    What's a good ship to move into once I outgrow the Nova Raider / LX? I hate to go with the M7, it feels beardy, but honestly, I donno anything about M6s or above.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Oh jesus christ you can play the game like Freelancer now. Left click navigation, right click firing. Oh that's a nice change for new people.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Oh jesus christ you can play the game like Freelancer now.

    huh?

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    KiTA wrote: »
    Oh jesus christ you can play the game like Freelancer now.

    huh?
    Another important change is the new mouse control. You can steer your ship by pressing the left mouse button in space and keeping it pressed while the ship turns towards the mouse cursor. This steering method is known from the game Freelancer and works very well - that way it's possible to play the game almost completely with the mouse: The scroll wheels adjust the ship's speed, and you fire your lasers with the right mouse button. The lasers will even fire towards the mouse cursor! But on the other hand, in this case you'll have to live without the Auto Aim feature. If you don't want to keep the left button pressed all the time, you can turn the cursor flight mode on and off permanently with the space bar. (Some playtesters prefer the scroll wheel button - of course you can customize the controls.)

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  • MutePrezMutePrez Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So I tried to transfer over my save games from one computer to another. Loading them crashes the game )= Did i forget a step somewhere or is it just not advised to try and transfer save games between computers?

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  • shanisshanis LCDR, US Navy Maryland, USARegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Are we also talking about the upcoming X3: Terran Conflict? Is that just an expansion pack? I ask because, if I get into this at all, should I just buy the steam package of both games?

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Steam Package is a good deal, I'd get it.

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  • JamesDMJamesDM Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Question(which may have already been answered.): Do I need a Steam copy to play this game with the PA folks?
    I have a copy of the game, I just bought it before I saw it on Steam.

    *EDIT* Wait, you can play this with other people right?

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I don't think so.

    It's a massive singleplayer game.

    Or maybe I just block out a multiplayer menu option every time I load it because I'm thinking of my next trade run.

    Steam just lets you yap at your friends while playing issal.

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  • AyulinAyulin Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    KiTA wrote: »
    Syngyne wrote: »
    So it's faster than the regular autodocking?
    It's instant. Once you get in range, you hit the button, and *poof*, you're docked.

    Doesn't seem to happen for ME... I get close to a station, hit shift-D, and then autopilot kicks in.

    Yeah, that's the autopilot docking, though. You have to buy the Docking Computer extension, then bind a key to it in Controls (I used / ), since it doesn't have one bound by default (the manual says Shift-D is it, but that's wrong.)

    Then just fly in range and hit that key.

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  • JamesDMJamesDM Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I don't think so.

    It's a massive singleplayer game.

    Or maybe I just block out a multiplayer menu option every time I load it because I'm thinking of my next trade run.

    Steam just lets you yap at your friends while playing issal.

    In that case can I just run it through steam and use the overlay?

    *EDIT* Yeah, I can.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    JamesDM wrote: »
    I don't think so.

    It's a massive singleplayer game.

    Or maybe I just block out a multiplayer menu option every time I load it because I'm thinking of my next trade run.

    Steam just lets you yap at your friends while playing issal.

    In that case can I just run it through steam and use the overlay?

    Prolly. I do that with a lot of games. I can't guarantee it'll work though.

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  • The_YeorinatorThe_Yeorinator Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Oh man, I didn't think about the probable use of the Steam overlay. That'll be cool I think.

    My best choice I ever made for a first station was a Spaceweed factory in one of the Teladi sectors. I forget which sector it was, though...it was one of the ones at the top of the map, closest to Argon space. You can sell lots. And lots. Of spaceweed there o_O

    And as previously mentioned, Universe Traders are probably the best thing you can get for a first investment. Then use the money they make you to build factories.


    I think managing an empire will be -much- easier and more fun this time around due to the ability to command wings instead of individual pew-pew ships. I always felt tense and bogged-down going through my cluster-fuck list of ships trying to do something.

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  • ArasenArasen Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Well, I just broke down and got it over steam... is the campaign mode worth doing or should i just stick to the sandbox universe?

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    all right, I've repeated this like a broken record for a million times now, but seeing as how interest in the game is resurging, I'll say it again: Download. The. Taxi. Mod. It basically gives the TP an actual, unique function, it's a nice way to make cash, and it's very, very well implemented. get it.

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  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Hot damn, this looks like EV: Nova on crack and in beautiful 3D. I have dreamed that such a game would be made.

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  • xzzyxzzy Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    kedinik wrote: »
    Hot damn, this looks like EV: Nova on crack and in beautiful 3D. I have dreamed that such a game would be made.

    Little slow on the draw there bud, the game's been out for at least 3 years now. ;)

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  • PoxPox Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    KiTA wrote: »
    Oh jesus christ you can play the game like Freelancer now.

    huh?
    Another important change is the new mouse control. You can steer your ship by pressing the left mouse button in space and keeping it pressed while the ship turns towards the mouse cursor. This steering method is known from the game Freelancer and works very well - that way it's possible to play the game almost completely with the mouse: The scroll wheels adjust the ship's speed, and you fire your lasers with the right mouse button. The lasers will even fire towards the mouse cursor! But on the other hand, in this case you'll have to live without the Auto Aim feature. If you don't want to keep the left button pressed all the time, you can turn the cursor flight mode on and off permanently with the space bar. (Some playtesters prefer the scroll wheel button - of course you can customize the controls.)

    Now THAT makes me quite happy.

    Although, I do have a mint condition Saitek Aviator joystick just sitting around collecting dust. Hm, would you X3 vets say it'd be better to go with a joystick or a mouse for your first playthrough?

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So I take it no one has ever used a M6 or better ship before?

    I know even when I had the M7 most of my time was spent jumping out into my LX and taking out annoyances...

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited October 2008
    An M6 is more of a prestige thing. I built one of each, not because they're useful but because it's a nice thing to have.

    I don't use the M7 because it's obscenely broken. There's something about "oh here's a ship that can take down an M2 and it's pretty fast and has good shields and can mount gamma PSGs"

    If you're in an M7 and you turn on your turrets, you win.

    Oh and it's free.

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  • SorensonSorenson Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I'll admit I haven't really been keeping tabs on this, but are there any other really juicy bits out there asides from the wings and the ship boarding? Like if the boarding is only ship-based or can be taken against stations as well? How about the engine and the game's data structuring? Will it be easier to mod stuff this time around, and will it let us actually mod things like station resources/products and the like?
    KiTA wrote: »
    So I take it no one has ever used a M6 or better ship before?

    I know even when I had the M7 most of my time was spent jumping out into my LX and taking out annoyances...
    Sadly, the only good M6 I've seen is the that one O-something model from Xtended (which's only useful it it's a sodding M3 on steroids) and possibly (Xtended spoiler)
    the ones used by that new alien race
    though I honestly haven't played and checked it for so long so who knows about that. One of the biggest gripes I've got about X is that the power curves when going from one tier of ship class or equipment class or what-have-you are plotzed up something fierce, with each lesser level getting beaten by about an order of magnitude or thereabouts, which when all's said and done heavily favors M3s over anything else: 5s and 4s get annihilated through sheer brute force thanks to the 3's usual HEPT compatability and having between 5 and 15 times the shield capacity, 6s just don't have the kind of fire concentration 3s can muster (what is it, somewhere from 4 to 8 forward guns your typical 3 can mount?) and given enough time several 3s can even take down 2s and 1s owing to PPC rounds having the unusual characteristic of lazily fluttering through space instead of being the gigantic Fuck You balls o' fire you'd think they'd be and giving fighters plenty of time to am-scray.

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