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The Guiding Principles and New Rules document is now in effect.
"Clothed in the green of fields, they aspired to find heroic
blades and cast down evil"
Your Link is clothed in the green of olives, and looks like he aspires to "bomb some dodongos"
Is that a blurred screencap of Outset Island in the background?
yup
Ok then!
#1: That might be acceptable if the art in front of the background were at least passable
#2: Your art should be posted in here, not linked
#3: Where are his arms?
#4: The line work, if you can call it that, is messy and random. Do you have seizures? I hear deep brain stimulation is quite effective.
Take down the website, study anatomy (see the first post of the tutorials thread for links), and come back when you fully understand what you did wrong, and have something for us to base suggestions on.
Edit: practice, don't cut corners with taking backgrounds and blurring them, and challenge yourself is the best advice i can give you at the moment. And please for your own benefit fix up the text bubbles and crammer on your comic.
Mykonos on
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"I was born; six gun in my hand; behind the gun; I make my final stand"~Bad Company
I thank those of you who actually gave helpful comments (if there were any)
First off, I'm sorry and should have mentioned that the background was a screencap, I'm not trying to claim ownership or hide it with a blur or anything. But seriously, telling me to take it down my webcomic and calling it the worst you've ever seen is flat out flaming. The Artists Corner is for critiquing. And although my banner does link to my webcomic (which is a totally different subject and the link pic being on there was a coincidence) , there is no need for you to go there if you don't like it. Try to stay on subject, if possible. I didn't ask you to correct the grammar on my webcomic.
Also, I don't have much control over how messy the line art comes out as after I scan my line-art and trace the bitmap with Flash. I'm only doing my best here.
You cant really just blame a program for your line art. Figure out a way to smooth out the lines in flash or illustrator or PS or whatever. It's not really an "Oh well flash makes it random withs when I trace bitmaps." as much as a "This isn't doing something I want, I need to figure something out."
Coddling is what got me to this point? Wtf is that supposed to mean? So apparently, me being young, deciding to try and do something that I've wanted to do for a while and not being perfect at it implies that I have been pampered? Pampered by whom, might I ask? Parents? Why would I show them, let alone why would they care? Think before you post, dumbass.
Stupid me, I should have realized posting anything in here would lead to a fucking attack.
Coddling is what got me to this point? Wtf is that supposed to mean? So apparently, me being young, deciding to try and do something that I've wanted to do for a while and not being perfect at it implies that I have been pampered? Pampered by whom, might I ask? Parents? Why would I show them, let alone why would they care? Think before you post, dumbass.
Stupid me, I should have realized posting anything in here would lead to a fucking attack.
You're exaggerating and completely missing the point. Even worse, you're being a stereotype! No-one here has said anything that warrants your attitude.
Don't like.....freak out. A webcomic probably isn't the best practice at your skill level but don't take what those guys say to heart, they are just being dicks. Mykonos, Giving some honest and not completely condescending and fucking mean crits isn't exactly coddling.
@OP: This is from the rules thread, just to show you that we're following the rules:
2 ) Do Not Troll
Trolling will not be acceptable, nor will trolling just inside the posted rules. If someone's art sucks a pipe, then give 'em some advice on how to grow as an artist. Despite how good you may be now, you sucked at some point, too. This applies to everyone. If you don't have anything helpful or constructive to say, take it to the chat thread or PMs. Acceptable: 'Wow, that color job really sucks the pipe. Try defining your light source before you start, and don't choose such saturated colors.'
Not Acceptable: 'It looks like butt. '
We said it sucks, told you why, and told you how to fix it. Then you went and flipped out.
Edit: And you're taking what several people post, merging it in to the thoughts of one person, then attacking that imagined person's thoughts.
Parents? Why would I show them, let alone why would they care? Think before you post, dumbass.
You forgot a semi colon. Adding a comma followed by a conjunction such as 'and' would also suffice. 'Alone' should also be followed by a comma.
Edit: I'm joking. Dude, chill. Were panning your art, not you. Also, if it makes you feel ne better, I assumed you were like 18-30 or something when I posted my initial critism, not an inexperienced little fledgling as young as 14 (although now your acting half that age). Ne ways, I'm sorry if what I said got to you that badly. Don't take what I said and tear down your whole site and throw away your hopes and dreams in the garbage. Just fix it is all were asking - not for me, for you.
Mykonos on
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"I was born; six gun in my hand; behind the gun; I make my final stand"~Bad Company
Edit: I'm joking. Dude, chill. Were panning your art, not you
You forgot the apostrophe.
:P
Also, to the OP: People here are candidly harsh by reputation, so one must beware.
Your attempt at reproducing Link feels half finished at this point. The lack of arms stands out the most. Once you've got the full figure in, then you can tweak colors/line width and smoothness.
Yeah, I was being a dick in my last post. Sorry about that. And also, I should have read the rules about posting here before I blindly went ahead and did anything. So, sorry for flipping out and acting like a three year old. My profanity was seriously inappropriate.
although you did overreact, some of the people here were being douchebags. People come here and see people who post REALLY bad art who take offense when people give crits, and they try to desperately defend their bad artwork. then that's sort of a cue that the person isn't going to take this stuff seriously and doesn't understand how these forums work, and the bashing and flaming ensues.
The bad thing is though people come and see mostly the bashing and flaming, and think it's cool to be a prick all the time. so they'll come and give really general and broad crits and throw in insults trying to be the cool guy. that's probably why AC has a dumb reputation of being evil asshole eating monsters that flame people to all burning hell. being honest and giving critiques doesn't mean you have to be a huge asshole all the time
it's also dumb how that reputation makes people who want to learn how to draw also have to pretend that they love being abused with their "here's my artwork TEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAR ME TO SHREEEEEEEDS!!!! RIP ME APART!! DON'T GO EASY, GIVE ME EVERYTHING YOU GOTT!!!"
just wanted to get that little rant out of the way
If you want to really improve your art, there's a bunch of links in the questions/tutorial thread that lead to several tutorials anatomy book downloads. even though if you might not think that you'll need to know that for your type of style, it really does help. there's also a couple of links to color theory, and here's a lovely inking tutorial that should help a lot http://www.teamspecialolympics.com/tutorials.php?id=12921 . Just rememeber, the more time you spend practicing the more you'll get out of it. if you really want to improve, make the time to draw from study books, photoreferences, and life (everything around you)
Yeah, I was being a dick in my last post. Sorry about that. And also, I should have read the rules about posting here before I blindly went ahead and did anything. So, sorry for flipping out and acting like a three year old. My profanity was seriously inappropriate.
Whoop-dee-do, I'm pleasantly surprised!
This thread was a riot so I decided against posting any more but allow me to offer you a bit of advice:
decide what you're striving for.
If you want to create a comic to have fun, play with the characters- that's quite allright and nobody will hold it against you- however, that case doesn't warrant its own thread.
If you want to improve your art, try to move towards the professional level- then let us welcome you and -at the same time- sadden you with the news that there's no way of avoiding the basics (anatomy, colour theory, understanding of 3d form) and there's a long time of practice between this point and a good, artistically interesting comic. If you embrace the fact and begin to enjoy learning what you may now be even unaware of as enjoyable- it's a win-win situation for all of us.
haha it is pretty much guaranteed that your first post on this forum gets torn to shreds. Shit, I remember posting some bullshit manga crap in 9th grade thinking it was amazing. Then I ran away for like 5 years and didnt post. These guys are ruthless, just draw from life, and then do it some more. You can only get better.
Don't worry about it. You're 'flip out' was more than warranted. MKR was being a douche in particular. I don't know why he was being a douche, or what he felt warranted douchebaggery, but who knows what lurks in the hearts of men.
think of it as your right of passage...like pledging a frat. If you can survive getting hazed on your first post, then welcome to club Ne ways, I reread my earlier post and I'm a bit apalled at myself and I'm sorry for being a overly harsh prick.
Mykonos on
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"I was born; six gun in my hand; behind the gun; I make my final stand"~Bad Company
Don't worry about it. You're 'flip out' was more than warranted. MKR was being a douche in particular. I don't know why he was being a douche, or what he felt warranted douchebaggery, but who knows what lurks in the hearts of men.
One silly comment among an overall helpful post != douchery.
Posts
blades and cast down evil"
Your Link is clothed in the green of olives, and looks like he aspires to "bomb some dodongos"
it messed up the color profile when I saved it as an Adobe Illustrator file.
yup
"I was born; six gun in my hand; behind the gun; I make my final stand"~Bad Company
Ok then!
#1: That might be acceptable if the art in front of the background were at least passable
#2: Your art should be posted in here, not linked
#3: Where are his arms?
#4: The line work, if you can call it that, is messy and random. Do you have seizures? I hear deep brain stimulation is quite effective.
Take down the website, study anatomy (see the first post of the tutorials thread for links), and come back when you fully understand what you did wrong, and have something for us to base suggestions on.
"I was born; six gun in my hand; behind the gun; I make my final stand"~Bad Company
First off, I'm sorry and should have mentioned that the background was a screencap, I'm not trying to claim ownership or hide it with a blur or anything. But seriously, telling me to take it down my webcomic and calling it the worst you've ever seen is flat out flaming. The Artists Corner is for critiquing. And although my banner does link to my webcomic (which is a totally different subject and the link pic being on there was a coincidence) , there is no need for you to go there if you don't like it. Try to stay on subject, if possible. I didn't ask you to correct the grammar on my webcomic.
Also, I don't have much control over how messy the line art comes out as after I scan my line-art and trace the bitmap with Flash. I'm only doing my best here.
"Take the website down" (waste of money until the comic is decent. If you must have a site, use a free comic hosting thing)
"Study anatomy"
"See the tutorials thread"
And trust me, this is not the worst we have seen. No-one said that. You have not been flamed.
Edit: You are not doing your best! Your best is what you are doing the day you die. Until then, ask for and listen to advice.
kitty is sorry and will be nicer from now
"I was born; six gun in my hand; behind the gun; I make my final stand"~Bad Company
To the op: or you can always ignore him if you feel his advice was not helpful.
Your response sounds like whining.
Iruka gave you the most useful advice of all the responses here. A wise man/woman (whatever) would listen to her.
look at his deviantart - he's pretty young (14).
don't scare him away from doing something :P
most of all, most of all
someone said true love was dead
but i'm bound to fall
bound to fall for you
oh what can i do
Coddling is probably what brought him to this point. I don't know if it's possible to be both nice and responsible in this case.
Hell, when I was 14 I was stuck workin in a Vietnemise Nike sweatshop to help feed my two kids
"I was born; six gun in my hand; behind the gun; I make my final stand"~Bad Company
Coddling is what got me to this point? Wtf is that supposed to mean? So apparently, me being young, deciding to try and do something that I've wanted to do for a while and not being perfect at it implies that I have been pampered? Pampered by whom, might I ask? Parents? Why would I show them, let alone why would they care? Think before you post, dumbass.
Stupid me, I should have realized posting anything in here would lead to a fucking attack.
Age is no excuse
You're exaggerating and completely missing the point. Even worse, you're being a stereotype! No-one here has said anything that warrants your attitude.
We said it sucks, told you why, and told you how to fix it. Then you went and flipped out.
Edit: And you're taking what several people post, merging it in to the thoughts of one person, then attacking that imagined person's thoughts.
You forgot a semi colon. Adding a comma followed by a conjunction such as 'and' would also suffice. 'Alone' should also be followed by a comma.
Edit: I'm joking. Dude, chill. Were panning your art, not you. Also, if it makes you feel ne better, I assumed you were like 18-30 or something when I posted my initial critism, not an inexperienced little fledgling as young as 14 (although now your acting half that age). Ne ways, I'm sorry if what I said got to you that badly. Don't take what I said and tear down your whole site and throw away your hopes and dreams in the garbage. Just fix it is all were asking - not for me, for you.
"I was born; six gun in my hand; behind the gun; I make my final stand"~Bad Company
You forgot the apostrophe.
:P
Also, to the OP: People here are candidly harsh by reputation, so one must beware.
Your attempt at reproducing Link feels half finished at this point. The lack of arms stands out the most. Once you've got the full figure in, then you can tweak colors/line width and smoothness.
Our first game is now available for free on Google Play: Frontier: Isle of the Seven Gods
And you forgot the R.
BAM-SHAZAM!
"I was born; six gun in my hand; behind the gun; I make my final stand"~Bad Company
Funny, I see an "r" in my post...
/ninja edit
Our first game is now available for free on Google Play: Frontier: Isle of the Seven Gods
"I was born; six gun in my hand; behind the gun; I make my final stand"~Bad Company
"I was born; six gun in my hand; behind the gun; I make my final stand"~Bad Company
The bad thing is though people come and see mostly the bashing and flaming, and think it's cool to be a prick all the time. so they'll come and give really general and broad crits and throw in insults trying to be the cool guy. that's probably why AC has a dumb reputation of being evil asshole eating monsters that flame people to all burning hell. being honest and giving critiques doesn't mean you have to be a huge asshole all the time
it's also dumb how that reputation makes people who want to learn how to draw also have to pretend that they love being abused with their "here's my artwork TEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAR ME TO SHREEEEEEEDS!!!! RIP ME APART!! DON'T GO EASY, GIVE ME EVERYTHING YOU GOTT!!!"
just wanted to get that little rant out of the way
If you want to really improve your art, there's a bunch of links in the questions/tutorial thread that lead to several tutorials anatomy book downloads. even though if you might not think that you'll need to know that for your type of style, it really does help. there's also a couple of links to color theory, and here's a lovely inking tutorial that should help a lot http://www.teamspecialolympics.com/tutorials.php?id=12921 . Just rememeber, the more time you spend practicing the more you'll get out of it. if you really want to improve, make the time to draw from study books, photoreferences, and life (everything around you)
There is hope.
This thread was a riot so I decided against posting any more but allow me to offer you a bit of advice:
decide what you're striving for.
If you want to create a comic to have fun, play with the characters- that's quite allright and nobody will hold it against you- however, that case doesn't warrant its own thread.
If you want to improve your art, try to move towards the professional level- then let us welcome you and -at the same time- sadden you with the news that there's no way of avoiding the basics (anatomy, colour theory, understanding of 3d form) and there's a long time of practice between this point and a good, artistically interesting comic. If you embrace the fact and begin to enjoy learning what you may now be even unaware of as enjoyable- it's a win-win situation for all of us.
Hiking Essentials
"I was born; six gun in my hand; behind the gun; I make my final stand"~Bad Company
One silly comment among an overall helpful post != douchery.
If you just remember that everyone is a dick, you'll be fine!
It's really just a great thing to keep in mind when you come here.
"Ok, I'm about to post this nice art here, oh wait... Everyone is a dick! Never mind, I totally should not post this."
there isn't even art in this thread.